/syo/ - Sort Yourself Out: Sam Harris Round 2 Edition

How's your sorting going Sup Forums?

Have you completed any of the self-authoring programs?

Have you stopped watching pornography yet (nothing good can come from it)?

Round 2 with Sam Harris has gone up:
>Waking Up With Sam Harris #67 - Meaning and Chaos (with Jordan Peterson)
youtube.com/watch?v=p8TDbXO6dkk

>2017 Maps of Meaning Lecture 8: Neuropsychology of Symbolic Representation
youtube.com/watch?v=Nb5cBkbQpGY

>Joe Rogan interview
youtube.com/watch?v=04wyGK6k6HE

>The Metaphysics of Pepe
youtube.com/watch?v=Ixc9i1G7eew

>Psychology of Redemption in Christianity
youtube.com/watch?v=DtiRzQMgBDM

>Tackling the "Meaning Crisis": Mental Chaos in University Students
youtube.com/watch?v=dvmUTeZvl6I

>Maps of Meaning book
jordanbpeterson.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Peterson-JB-Maps-of-Meaning-Routledge-1999.pdf

Other urls found in this thread:

glasgowstudent.net/about/rector-elections/manifestos-2017
mega.nz/#F!MQBRHBJA!L_on3h-XUrtbc719UaMygw!oMZ3UBZa
signupgenius.com/go/70a0e45acab2ca64-thebible
youtube.com/watch?v=WqFo32lwY_g
depauw.edu/site/sfs/backissues/88/napier.html
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Why does Reddit exist? Why are atheists triggered so easily by Christians?

Forgot pic related

>Why does Reddit exist?
SJWs need safespaces online too, not just on campus

>Why are atheists triggered so easily by Christians?
The internet is seemingly the perfect breeding ground of militant atheists

Especially in this day and age where so many people have never stepped foot in a church and think religion is purely about muh imaginary skyfriends

Get in here!

They're beholden to an image that they can't let go of. A metaphysical conviction that there is no metaphysics.

>How's your sorting going Sup Forums?
I'm still unemployed. Exercising, reading, listening to lectures, and job searching.

>Have you completed any of the self-authoring programs?
No, will do once I get a job.

>Have you stopped watching pornography yet (nothing good can come from it)?
It's too early to tell. Currently day 5 nofap, looking at porn even while trying nofap seems almost habitual although I'm consciously acting to avoid it now.

There is no god, get over it.

checked stupid flag

They treat everything like a zero sum argument, and anything that takes 'points' away from their side is cheating. When will there ever be empirical evidence for why we have such a strong, foundational connection with mythological archetypes? How can such a thing be tested in a lab?
They just despise any concept that can't be understood in a black and white sound byte

God dammit, Joe Rogan really is a dummy.

I'm listening to this now. I think Peterson is always at his best with an audience, although the interviews with Molyneux and Rogan were good too. Harris, on the other hand, sucks the enthusiasm out of everything.

Oh God I hope it went better than last time...

Much better.

Atheism is a mental illness, and it is the fastest shrinking religion in the world because the Soviet Union is gone and can't subvert any more cultures.

it's not about god

it's about evolutionary valuable meta-fiction you dumb barbosa

>fastest shrinking religion in the world

The world. Not the West. This is also due to the growth of Christianity and Islam in non-western countries.

Reddit's cool enlightened birdmen was fun fun shit. Most atheists had shitty religious parents. It's just the hatred of thier shit parents comeing out in anti-religious shit. Most atheists with cool parents don't give a shit if you're religous.

"Muh scientific positivism"

I think even Karl Popper posited that there are three "worlds", one of them is the one of material facts, which can be scientifically investigated. But there are also other "truths" and worlds, I think one of ideas and the other of personal experience/aesthetics (have to look it up). If you only rely on empiricism you are too reductive and miss most of the picture, besides the fact that it can never justify itself nor can it even function by itself, Peterson mentions some of these problems, for example the one of value judgements. Reality is infinite, so which facts are even relevant to you?
This philosophy should have died somewhere in the middle of the 20th century.

Both Milo and Jordan have been nominated to be the next Rector of the University of Glasgow, so far only Jordan's posted his manifesto:

glasgowstudent.net/about/rector-elections/manifestos-2017

For all of that fine grammar, fucking leaf spells skeptisism wrong. Send that blubbering "zhe" back to tumblr, "it's" clearly been triggered.
>OMG YUCKY- HE SAID CHANGE THE WAY I ACT AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY OWN BULLSHIT! HE'S A DANGEROUS WAR MONFERING EVIL EVIL WHITE MALE LITERALLY HITLER

[sort yourself out]

>so far only Jordan's posted his manifesto

It is true, no other candidate could be bothered.
He will win guys.

I had the chance to have a 1 on 1 with JBP yesterday because I supported him on Patreon.

What an awesome guy. Was nervous before our skype chat, but he really was easy to talk to.

Topics included: Sup Forums, jehova's witnesses, magic mushrooms, schooling for children, free speech.

I'm stoked his account just passed 20k a month.

autists literally aren't capable of understanding humanity abstractly so you can't blame them

Did he admonish you for being a dirty neo-nazi Sup Forums-tard?

What did he say about Sup Forums?

He did not! We chatted about how what we do here, and he indicated that he didn't think it was really free speech since it's anonymous and we don't attach our reputations to it. Great for honing a blade, but at some point you need to enter a domain of consequence and test your metal.

Kek'd when Sam started 'interpreting' the Hawaiian cookbook. I love them both but Peterson got btfo again

The amount of content this guy has been putting out is incredible, and he isn't just resting on his laurels. A 25 week series on the bible is planned starting this summer.

I also want to say that I found him to be one of the best listeners I've ever met. He remembered everything I said and made commentary about my anecdotes.

How long was the waiting list?

Is there like a mega folder with JP's recommended books?

You can find the list on his website

What do you mean re commentary?

I think Sam was very funny when he talked about that, but ultimately doesn't solve the problem when he says "See what I can do? Anyone can do this" because there isn't any evidence that without an established framework to draw from that he could do that. Mockery is also a very powerful argument, JBP admits that.

Don't steal books.

Cristiano, i am aware of that, i just thought that maybe someone has downloaded them all and put them up somewhere

I started supporting him in January and just did it yesterday, not sure what it's up to now. I'll bet it'll go quicker when classes are over at the end of April.

dudes just a stoic his shit peddling shouldnt be anything new to westerners

being lazy is bad being productive i s good

duh

I can't get pass his faggy canadian voice

why do they talk like this? I thought this was like a meme from Fargo or some shit

sort yourself out

Praise Batman.

mettle*

A FUCKING LEAF and a Christcuck fedora posting

Dumb and abhorrent. As usual.

>atheism
>religion

also
>world IQ drops due to shitskins overpopulating
>atheism goes down
Really makes you think!

People could go to jail in many countries for what they say on here.

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germany calling anyone a cuck... how come Austria is so superior to you?

They have until the 21st I think. Milos will be a stinker if he even bothers

>Sam Harris Round 2
where? when?

Nevermind I missed the link in the OP

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i think thats exaclty his point.

you cant say "we have free speech, (if we do it secretly)"

if thats the case you dont exercise free speech.

and thats why people that doest have free speech has to post here

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We need more people to be sorted out

mega.nz/#F!MQBRHBJA!L_on3h-XUrtbc719UaMygw!oMZ3UBZa

You can start with reading Nietzsche

Version 2

Quick rundown on Round 2?

Because they're butthurt faggots who were forced to do things they didn't want to do when they were being raised as children. And one of those things was going to church.

Now that they have their minimum wage job they've been afforded the opportunity to move into their parents' basement and the most powerful declaration of their independence is to reject what they believe to be the embodiment of the oppression of their youth.

They're so remarkably weak-minded it never occurs to them that this is not actually brave or even new behavior. It is also someone else's idea- they're rebelling along the path that someone else designated for them.

They do this because they're stupid, fat, insecure and most importantly, proud. They will never think about what is really wrong with their lives. They'll never stop to consider the remote possibility that maybe they're the ones who smell like shit, and that's why life always smells shitty.

Because they're fucking faggots. They deserve to die. If we lived during the times of actual human evolution they would have been picked off by predators or thrown away by their parents who would know deep down they need to try again.

Fucking faggots. And yet somehow they will find trailer trash land whales who will breed with them, so the problem will perpetuate itself, and the rest of us aren't yet willing to solve it.

Christ, as an atheist myself, you sound way more butthurt than reddit fedoratheists do.

Repeating "fucking faggots" and armchair psychologizing people makes you look like an idiot.

SORT

i imagine ~25 years as a clinical psychologist makes you a very good listener.
im hoping I can find the time to drive 45 mins a week to see those lectures in person. I believe he said attendance would be free, I think I'm actually looking forward to meeting people at them.

Listening to the Harris part 2. Jordan has completely rekt him to the point that you can hear Harris becoming a broken robot repeating "lol religion must be false because old man in the sky".

> I believe he said attendance would be free
not quite, but if i wasn't in Vancouver I'd certainly fork out the money. He lowered the donation limit down to 1$ on his Patreon so that people can donate to get the recorded lectures a month before they're on Youtube

signupgenius.com/go/70a0e45acab2ca64-thebible

>The Bible: A Psychological Investigation

>Dr. Jordan B Peterson is tentatively planning a series of weekly public lectures in downtown Toronto. He envisions analyzing the ancient stories presented in the Old and New Testaments in terms of their psychological significance, using insights derived from the analytical psychology of Carl Jung, and ideas presented by Mircea Eliade, Friedrich Nietzsche, Soren Kierkegaard, among others. The series would run one night a week, most likely at 8:00 pm for 90 minutes. Tickets would be priced at 14.95 for adults, 9.95 for students and seniors. There will be a discount of 20% for enrolment in the entire series, which would run for 25 weeks from May to December of 2017.

Sam Harris is an insufferable cunt. His tone of voice and expressed ideas are pure trash.

You've broken through the barrier, Fedoras are no long just for Atheists. So here's yours, you earned it.

Well he is right in saying that most people don't see their own religion anywhere near the same way as Peterson does though. Most religious people do believe that it's "literally true" in the sense that it talks about actual reality and not some metaphysical representation.

YOURSELF

He's certainly got some good ideas but he comes across (in my view) as just trying to tear everything down, i.e. throwing the baby out with the bath water. Does anyone who's listened to more of his talks know what he hopes to replace the religious roots of morality with?

Wew lad, did someone throw your crucifix in the mud as a child?

Believe it or not I'm am atheist. That's not going to stop me from criticizing retards.

I think I used the term twice. You're exaggerating, which is a little annoying.

>tfw writing my autobiography for past authoring

where did it all go wrong user?

Did you record it? What does he think of Sup Forums?

My thoughts are explicitly darwinian.

OTTAWA PUBLIC LIBRARY TALK
youtube.com/watch?v=WqFo32lwY_g

OTTAWA PUBLIC LIBRARY TALK
youtube.com/watch?v=WqFo32lwY_g

OTTAWA PUBLIC LIBRARY TALK
youtube.com/watch?v=WqFo32lwY_g

I wonder what he would think of EOE

When my brother killed himself.

Holy shit I lost

i betchu he'd find trope's and archetypes never before considered...and perhaps even an underlying storyline about the REAL best girl? who knows, but i bet you he'd fucking love it

SORRRRRRRT

YOURSELF

OOT

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>PRAISE
>mods are warning me for posting this despite digits... and the first thread i find it deleted from is the christian one.
>JESUS OF NAZARENE
>YESHUA OF NAZIRITE
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>>WE HAVE HOLY RIGHT TO DEFEND CHRISTIAN LANDS
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>>>SEEK THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP
>>>KNOW THE FIRE OF GNOSIS AND THE SONG OF SYNCHRONICITY THAT THE (((PHARISEE))) HAVE TAKEN FROM YOU.
>>>OBEY = OYVEY
>>>SHEKKELS=SHACKLES
>>>SATURN=/=JUPITER
>>>THE MORNING STAR IS NOT THE EVENING STAR
>>>HOLOCAUST = HOLOGRAM CAST= HOLOGRAPHIC GRAMMATON SPELL= FAKE GOD.
>>>SHATTER THE DEMIURG!
>>>KNOW THE SAYINGS OF CHRIST THAT PUT HIM TO LANCE
>>>TAKE THE NAZIRITE OATH AS CHRIST SAMSON AND HITLER BEFORE YOU AND WE CAN SAVE THE WEST
>>>WE MUST CONQUER THE TALMUD WITH FIRE OF CHRIST AND SET THIS WORLD FREE

EOEfags may enjoy this essay, at least I did:

>When the Machines Stop: Fantasy, Reality, and Terminal Identity in Neon Genesis Evangelion and Serial Experiments Lain
depauw.edu/site/sfs/backissues/88/napier.html

The book mentioned in it called 'Haunted Media: Electronic Presence from Telegraphy to Television' was pretty interesting too

Ocarina Of Time is fairly well sorted. Outstanding piece of software

That picture is horrific, am I insanely naive or would you have to be grossly cynical and ideologically possessed to project all that onto him? Peterson seems so utterly genuine it's shocking other people could read malicious intent into him.

This describes that faggot Destiny to a T.

Most are proper cathos that are so butthurt at their parents that they are willing to support any that goes against Christianity, that includes liberalism, socialism, feminism, and Islam.

Shit, I have a brother and that kind of makes me not want to kill myself.

It also seems stupid to suffer miserably until a natural death

Is this what responsibility feels like?

tks m8!
i'ma give this a read when i get home

miserable nihilist sam 'faggot' harris got intellectually butchered yet again!

It's ok user, this is the first step toward redemption

Which one shills for Israel?

There have been no sophisticated religious thinkers in the public sphere that I've known of until Jordan Peterson. I don't know about you but the Religion class we were taught in school was complete bullshit.

The modern world has done us a massive disservice in this regard.

>Peterson seems so utterly genuine it's shocking other people could read malicious intent into him.
over the past 6 months i've really been able to see the power of projection in action.
i wouldn't underestimate it's ability to alter 100% of a person's perceptions

>He's certainly got some good ideas
which?

>Does anyone who's listened to more of his talks know what he hopes to replace the religious roots of morality with?
utilitarianism
he thinks the meaning of "good" and "ought" is just utilitarian well-being maximization (where well-being is positive conscious experience):
>If we define “good” as that which supports well-being, as I will argue we must, the regress initiated by Moore’s “open question argument” really does stop. While I agree with Moore that it is reasonable to wonder whether maximizing pleasure in any given instance is “good,” it makes no sense at all to ask whether maximizing well-being is “good.” It seems clear that what we are really asking when we wonder whether a certain state of pleasure is “good,” is whether it is conducive to, or obstructive of, some deeper form of well-being. [The Moral Landscape, Introduction]
>this notion of “ought” is an artificial and needlessly confusing way to think about moral choice. In fact, it seems to be another dismal product of Abrahamic religion—which, strangely enough, now constrains the thinking of even atheists. If this notion of “ought” means anything we can possibly care about, it must translate into a concern about the actual or potential experience of conscious beings (either in this life or in some other). For instance, to say that we ought to treat children with kindness seems identical to saying that everyone will tend to be better off if we do. [The Moral Landscape, Chapter 1]

he also seems to think religious people aren't really committed to religious morality since they know God's supposedly "moral" judgments aren't really about morality:
>the God of Abraham never told us to treat children with kindness, but He did tell us to kill them for talking back to us [...] And yet everyone finds this “moral” imperative perfectly insane. [...] even fundamentalist Christians and orthodox Jews [ibid]

everything about this image is true though

>muh intentions

>stoke fear
>feign moderation
>profit
slandering and besmirching a good man
>as soon as the trans people ask for respect
that's not what happened

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GO TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCEAN
SAVE YOUR FATHER
REVIVIFY SOCIETY

>as soon as the trans people ask for respect
that's not what happened

my bad