Why are the English such hypocritical assholes?

If the Scots want a referendum, it is NONE of the English's business to tell the Scots when or if that referendum is to be held.

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They literally want to join the EU right after.

Yeah it is, England owns the fucking island.

They had a referendum in 2014. Numpty.

And even if they should have another one, it should be post-brexit, not during negotiations.

Can't keep having referendums til you win

Really fucking tired of you retards that think SNP is some far right party btw

Colonized lol

>have independence referendum
>it fails
>demand another one

No do overs, Hans.

>They literally want to join the EU right after.
What in NONE OF THE ENGLISH'S BUSINESS, did you not understand? It is literally none of their business.

Fuck the English.

>Yeah it is, England owns the fucking island.
Burgers will not understand, but Scotland is a country, not some subjugated province. Scotland voluntarily joined the British and can voluntarily get out of tis British Union if the English are fucking them over.

>leaving the EU = good
>leaving the UK = bad

?

Brits are retarded

>If the Scots want a referendum, it is NONE of the English's business to tell the Scots when or if that referendum is to be held.

Hon hon, somebody doesn't know how the Commonwealth work...

>And even if they should have another one, it should be post-brexit, not during negotiations.

What in NONE OF ENGLAND's BUSINESS, do you not understand? If they want 17 referendums, it is Scotland's business. If they want to vote on April 1, 2017, it is their business. If they want to vote with people having to do a handstand first, it is THEIR FUCKING BUSINESS. Literally, if they demanded to eat haggis while voting, it is their business.

I know when some motherfuckers try to secede from your country you just let them build a wall down the middle, but the rest of the world tries to stop that shit.

>German being against countries leaving their union
Top kek

They could just hold one anyway like the Catalans. How'd that work for them?

Then why don't they?

>No do overs, Hans.
What was the Brexit referendum? The Brits had a referendum in the 70s. No do-overs?

Wrong. Every country has the right to do what the people decide whenever they want to.

>They literally want to join the EU right after.
So?
That's the decision of the scots

>What in NONE OF THE ENGLISH'S BUSINESS, did you not understand? It is literally none of their business.
In some respects, they're one country. Fuck off, faggot.
>burgers will not understand
>Germans think they understand any of the anglo countries
lel

May is PM of Scotland too remeber Ahmed

>Hon hon, somebody doesn't know how the Commonwealth work...

The Commonwealth works like this: Brits are BTFO out by the people and then that ex-British clay puts the queen on their money.

Elle est belle mais elle a perdu le premier ronde. Elle ne peut pas jouer le tennis.

>Americans think they understand any country, including their own
lel

The Scots have no industry... everyone is wondering how they plan on feeding themselves... all the money comes from the rest of the UK since the North-Sea oil dried up.

Isn't the whole reason Scotland wanted to leave the UK again because they still wanted to Remain in the EU?
But didn't Spain and a few other EU nations say they would VETO Scotland's entry? So what's the point?

sorry, how big was your colonial epmire Fritz?

>scotland wants to join the EU
I cant imagine scots want to be cucked. They dont have refugees there right now do they?

Nice meme, did you learn it at one of your second rate unis?

Now you're just showing your butthurt hans.

There are procedures and legislative processes to be followed. No one just up and decides "we're going to have a referendum and no one can stop us". For it to be legal it has to be enshrined in law, as their first referendum was, as brexit was, and now article 50 is ;)

The SNP have tunnel vision, independence at any cost so they can have their sweden 2.0 free of "those damn right wing english"

Germans don't even understand there own country anymore

As someone who spent a year in Britain I can confirm that brits are retarded

HOWEVER

Scotland voted to stay in the UK, and the UK voted to LEAVE. Scotties gotta deal with it.

>In some respects, they're one country.
That is legally wrong. The UK is a supernational union of 4 different countries. It says so on the UK's own website.

england guaranteed the jocks the uk would stay in the eu if they voted against independence

>flag
checks out

>Elle est belle mais elle a perdu le premier ronde. Elle ne peut pas jouer le tennis.

Bah, elle mange trop de Cheetos et ne s'entraine pas assez..

>That is legally wrong
>The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly known as the United Kingdom (UK) or Britain,[note 8] is a sovereign country

Let them try, Scotland, Norn Iron, and Wales all rely on English tax subsidies. They will have to increase taxes and cut services harshly if they cut ties with England.

Funny how this is exactly what the Scots will face if they stay in the EU.

3 countries mate

Scotlands desire for independence is completely suicidal. This is nothing like Brexit. They have a population of 6 million, no industry, it's only resources are fish and gas (and we'd probably claim those anyway), they're massively in debt, and the EU has said repeatedly they can't rejoin the EU without the rest of Britain.

We're doing them a grey kindness by not letting them hurt themselves. Brexit will take a couple years to work out and no doubt May will have conveniently forgot about this agreement by then- either that or she's hoping Sturgeon will finally drop dead in that time. The Scottish life expectancy is practically 3rd world.

Funny thing, how come you have such "good" universities while the majority of the americans is stupid as fuck?

>sorry, how big was your colonial epmire Fritz?
At least our ex-colonies do well and have fond memories of our rule.

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Je ne pense pas que c'est les Cheetos. Elle pratique plus de temps a prendre les photos que pratiquer le tennis.

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thats a good question

Brits. We may not be friends. But we certainly aren't enemies. If the Scot niggers get independence, we will make sure they can't join the EU. Enjoy starvatation.

If I take that at face value (source pls) then what the Cameron-Clegg coalition government "guaranteed" does not apply unless it was legislated, if it was only an assurance it no longer applies because their government no longer exists.

We're not a federal state, in legal terms Westminster could abolish Scotland or England as a geographic definition tomorrow.

Biggest reason they wanted to stay with UK was for EU membership. Now UK is fucking them in the face and telling them not to start their own shit as UK still wants them as a bargaining card.

Obvious political powerplay.

> euroshill thinks referendums are a good idea
What a strange sight.

>For it to be legal it has to be enshrined in law, as their first referendum was

Not under international law. Actually, the way the 2014 Scottish referendum was done legally, was rather unique in the history of secession.

Typically, secession involves closing the border and fighting the oppressors militarily... then after a few years, agreeing that you are a new country.

germany you will never win

you are the eternal villain, your plans will always be destroyed by the meddling eternal anglos and there is nothing you can do about it

>Scotland is a country, not some subjugated province.

Then why cant they leave the kingdom or join the union on their own free will?

Why do you care eurocuck? Looking for another country to make islamic?

>americans is
lol, typical german blockhead

Okay we'll be fair Hanz in 2044 they can have another refferndum than. How easy was that, i should be negotiater.

Isn't there terms for Scotland's leaving that says they can only have a referendum every so many years?

>Scotland voted to stay in the UK, and the UK voted to LEAVE. Scotties gotta deal with it.
2/3rds of Scots voted to stay in the EU. How can you simply ignore their vote?

Literally, the biggest scare story the Pro-UK side in 2014 pushed was "if you vote for independence, then you are out of the EU and you would hate that!"

Remind me, whats the official language in >your ex-colony of Ghana?

Polling shows most Scots do not want a second referendum.
twitter.com/britainelects/status/841354620286959617

No, what is devolution? Scotland is required to have its own vote on anything concerning Scotland. It says so in the freaking treaties.

Its as easy as

>opinion discarded

And carry on.

Nice argumentum ad hominem my intelligent american friend.

>Typically, secession involves closing the border and fighting the oppressors militarily.
With what military? All the Scots in the military are unionist, the SNP are leftist, SJW and pacifists who want to abolish basically all of the Scottish military and leave NATO.

nice fallacy fallacy, my little german blockbrain

This, Spain will veto everything because of Catalonia.

anyway we wont accept these scottish cuck inside of EU

we have enough cuck to deal with sorry scottish fags

The EU was a non-issue at the last scot referendum. FYI scotland is a net economic sinkhole to the UK, they have one of the largest deficits in Europe, if this is a power play to keep them tied to us it's rather akin to shooting ourselves in the foot.

>independence must be violent or i don't recognize it

Yeah....fuck off abdul from germany.

What can Scotland offer to the EU ?

Thanks

They have scotch, which is dank and richfags will pay out the ass for. Just turn the country into a scotch farm and kek shall be pleased

This is what happens when you allow Catholics and Irish to vote. Great Britain was the greatest country in the world until it recognised Catholicism as a legal faith.
Fuck all subhumans.

>How can you simply ignore their vote?
It was a nationwide referendum, not a regional one? How can Germany have a CDU/SPD government when some of the states vote for other parties?
How can Canada have Trudaeu in power when Alberta voted for Harper?
Not exactly hard is it.

Took us years to get ours and they've just had one.
Greedy bloody Scotts.

Also 62% is not quite 2/3

Yeah, best of luck with that.. Weaponised haggis ..
Will someone think of the children.

english because so they can fit better in your country haha

>2/3rds of Scots voted to stay in the EU. How can you simply ignore their vote?
And London overwhelmingly voted to Remain, but most other places didn't, so London Leaves. You don't get to pick and choose, the United Kingdom is a country, if you're part of that country then you do what the majority of that country tells you to.
Scotland likes to pretend they're a country, but they're not and they haven't been for a very long time. They're part of the United Kingdom and they'll do as they're told.

If you don't like it Hans, then you're ping to fucking hate the EU in the next decade or so. Assuming it's still around by then.

The decision of the Scots was made two years ago when they voted 'no'.

This is all a moot point because Scotland's finances are as bad as Greece and Spain will veto any (unlikely) accession into the EU.

Oil and fishing waters.
IMO: If a people want independence, give it to them.
But Scots had their vote and decided not to leave. Ask again in 15 years.
So fuck off Sturgeon.

>Then why cant they leave the kingdom or join the union on their own free will?
They can, it is the whole point of the discussion. The 2014 referendum would have been pro-independence if the English hadn't sent English invaders to Scotland who voted NO to independence. The invaders should not have a vote in my view. Only Scots should have a vote.

Based north saving the country.

Nah Britain was great before beady Anglos showed up from Germany

Why are Germans such hypocritical assholes?

If Poles do not want refugees it is NONE of Germany's business to...

What about the people who voted to stay back in 2014? Why should the losing side get to keep having votes until they win and then that's final? Stupid butthurt muslim.

prior to concluding negotiations, the post negotiations poll is 48-52
i'm not even sure what to think anymore, considering the previous scottish indyref no camp used the stay in eu argument (and it's something to scots really love - presumptively due to the same as poland, a net exporter of people)

>Only shitpoor benefit parasite Scotland and London metropoly wanted remain.
It's just perfect.

Devolution isn't federalism or enshrined in any constitution. As I said, it could literally be reversed if parliament felt like it. It's not like US or German states.
>treaties between interal areas
Lol. And no Scotland doesn't get a vote on everything, anything not explicitely given to Holyrood is reserved for Westminster.

FUCK OFF, KROUT
YOU HAVE NO PLACE HERE.

>Okay we'll be fair Hanz in 2044 they can have another refferndum than. How easy was that, i should be negotiater.
As far as I understand, it is not the time between the 1970s and the 2016 ref that was the issue, but Farage and other Brexiteers claimed "the situation has fundamentally changed" and that changed situation warranted a new ref.

Guess why Scotland wants a new ref.

>East Midlands 59% Leave
God bless my people

Scotsfag joining in.
Ok, firstly, Scottish independence is not about nor has it ever been about Salmond,Sturgeon nor the SNP.
It's about Scotlands right to govern itself completely.
Re-joining Europe IS an option after Brexit, but it's not our only option, a Scandanvian treaty is also possible.
There was NEVER an Act of Union, it was merely a treaty of union,and DOES NOT need Westminsters permission to be nullified,but that'd just cause bad feeling.

Ok, Indie reff ! was won/lost on promises, promises that were never going to be upheld, including staying within the EU and BAE Systems maintaining the ship building.

Last election Scotland voted AGAINST the Tories, We voted againsts Brexic.Oh and who the fuck voted May in as PM?

So i think it pretty fair in view of the circumstances that there is a second refferendum held.

>leave a multi-century union where you are treated as an equal and are attached to one of the world leading economies(and consumer)
>join another Union where you will be treated like an insignificant shit
Are Scots aware of what that dyke downie sturgeon bitch is doing to them. If anything a hard brexit means that Scotland will play an even bigger role in UK economic trade system since it won't have so much competition from the mainland . This might be the worst time to leave an Union

>it is NONE of the English's business to tell the Scots when or if that referendum is to be held
Scots sold their country to the English in 1707 because they wanted the Ebglish to pay their denbts after the Scots fucked up a colony in Panama.
So, in fact, the English have literally every right to tell the Scots to sit down and stfu

Wouldn't Scotland have like 0% chance of joining the EU?

>Guess why Scotland wants a new ref.
In 2014 Brexit was a legitimate possibility and everyone knew it might happen.
Situation has not fundamentally changed.

They already had a fucking referendum and they voted to stay. Cunts can't keep having votes until they get a result they like.

keep your scat-lovin' nose out Hans.

The Scottish people will rise up and storm the Trident missiles stored in Scotland and then nuke England.

It is written.

Good thing absolutely nothing changed in the past 310 years.

Becoming a combination of Greek denbts and Swedish cuckery