Was Crowley Evil?

What's the truth about Aleister Crowley Sup Forums?

Was he Truly evil?

I ask this because ever since i learned of the lies about Hitler i'm questioning everyone that has gotten demonized.

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He was a hedonist, a cult-leader, and a fraud.

He cashed-in on the mysticism of the Victorian era.

He wasn't "evil" in a religious sense, because magic isn't real.

The more I read about him, the more he strikes me as a creep. If he were alive today, he'd be one of those middle-aged weirdos who hangs out with teenaged hippie chicks, impressing them with psuedo-philosophy and getting them high so he could fuck them.

>The more I read about him, the more he strikes me as a creep. If he were alive today, he'd be one of those middle-aged weirdos who hangs out with teenaged hippie chicks, impressing them with psuedo-philosophy and getting them high so he could fuck them.
This applies to 99% of "satanist" leaders and probably a lot of male followers.

Literal faggot that did shit like eat dudes semen.

>He was a hedonist, a cult-leader, and a fraud.

He had hedonist qualities and certainly portrayed himself as the High Priest of Thelema. Fraud in a sense of what? In terms of Occultism, he has been highly influential and one of the last pioneers of Western Hermetic Tradition.

>He cashed-in on the mysticism of the Victorian era.
He died penniless and his last funds went mostly to the publication of his works and trying to spread Thelema.

>He wasn't "evil" in a religious sense, because magic isn't real.
Magic is as real as religion. I do not believe in the supernatural personally.

> If he were alive today, he'd be one of those middle-aged weirdos who hangs out with teenaged hippie chicks, impressing them with psuedo-philosophy and getting them high so he could fuck them.

And probably professional mountaineer, a world class chess player and a mediocre, above average artist.

It´s funny nobody brings but negatives out of him. The fact is that Crowley along with Oscar Eckenstein were the first men to climb up mountains such as K2 with primitive mountaineering equipment. (No oxygen, modern equipment etc.)
These feats are even today quite impressive.

I told you last thread user, don't dig into this sort of stuff. Kek and meme magic is all that you need.

Go fucking marry him if you like him so much you faggot. He's chillin with daddy Bush rn. Barbara bush IS Alister Crowley, look it up nigger

>He was a hedonist, a cult-leader, and a fraud.
This. He was a typical pied-piper who used drugs to reach for Satan's cock. He was a nutcase and died alone and desolate.

>Fraud in a sense of what?

Fraud in the sense that he was a fucking charlatan who claimed to have supernatural knowledge. Magic isn't real; his life was devoted to manipulating gullible people.

magic is very real

>Magic isn't real
Whooooa. Hold your horses cowboy! What makes you an expert on magic all of a sudden? Who are you to decide what "real" even means?

Lord Kek says magic isn't real. I believe him.

>Was he Truly evil?
Maybe, if you believe in that kind of stuff.
What's certain is he was truly a faggot.

He shat down the throats of his underlings, and when he decided to attempt a long and arduous ritual that required months of dedicated he turned tail and ran off to Egypt.

He died penniless and in an asylum, a shell of his former self.
He's not an occult idol - he's a warning to all the occucktists that aren't willing to pay their dues.

No idea about him BUT he sure as fuck dug up some weird depictions out of old books from the 18th century

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictionnaire_Infernal

Doesn't kek function on meme magic? people just expect magic do be like Harry Potter or LOTR but it's not. Magic can be very subtle

He was a NEET who tricked people into basically being his cult of servants.

Crowley's thing was banging young boys in Tunisia while high on Opium.

>Magic is as real as religion. I do not believe in the supernatural personally.

Could you define magic for us then, maybe?

Magic is real. Look at book like pic related The Golden Dawn, 3 books of occult philosophy by Corneilus Agrippa. Regardless if you believe alchemy has been studied extensively by the top brains that have existed.

I would say he was evil ( but I dont know if thats because I have hard only a demonized version of his story) , but I do know:

He had more Masonic degrees than he could remember.
He had a property in Sicily, his church of Thelema where he performed all manner of rituals.
He said that he wants to perform all manner of depraved acts suck as pedo shit and bestiality etc.
He considered himself an Ipsissimus.
He wrote many books many of which contain incomprihensible / allegorical / metaphorical verses and tables and charts etc.

I dont know what he was doing, but it was based on real historical texts and actual magic.

Many of these texts are hidden in the Vatican library and are unavailable to the public

>He cashed-in on the mysticism of the Victorian era.

hardly, he was burning through his paren't estate his whole life, he was born wealthy and died a bum

thats pretty much all you need to know but yeah I have heard that he often advocated for practices he didn't mind being associated with but didn't actually perform

weather that is true or not I do not know but he is one of very few people raised in the great pyramid in the modern age including Napoleon Bonaparte,

best troll story about him I have heard is that went he moved to Loch Ness he went to the city council to complain about the prostitute problem, city forms a committee and investigates, next council meeting they state they cannot find any prostitutes, Crowley admits that is the nature of the problem,

and of course prostitutes arrives by the truckload, that incident reveals a world class troll,

also Barbara Bush is reputed to be his daughter produced during an orgy at her grandparent's home

Meme magic is crowdsourced sympathetic magic.

Personally the most effective form of magic I've practiced is chaos, especially when combined with blood. Whether you believe in magic or not the psychological effect of it is apparent when you use it. You start noticing a lot of coincidences and events that could be best described as unusually out of place - that alone with have an affect on your mind and help you accomplish your desires.

>Magic isn't real;

magic is real but you aren't understanding the definition of it,

magic is just another term for artistic con, when you see it that way then all of a sudden Crowley's wizardry is revealed plain as day, he was a drunken whoring drug addict who made extra booze money promoting such things and being hated for it, mostly because he hated his christian parents, he's probably the original parent hater in the modern day

>I've practiced is chaos, especially when combined with blood.

just study the planetary influences. adding blood gets weaker over time, if you must keep it consistent like clockwork

I believe it to mean you can affect the material world through various rituals not instantly, but eventually, that take ages (like years).

Alchemy could also be considered magic. (not "turning lead into gold necessarily, but turning yourself into a better person)

Also, Kabbalah / Qabbalah

youtube.com/watch?v=Kx7Qxjg5fSk

He called Hitler the most evil man had ever met and was the one that came up with the "V" for victory "sigil' to counter the swastika "sigil"

He was also a 33 degree freemason.

Really makes you think

>He had more Masonic degrees than he could remember.

Crowley was 33rd degree Freemason, the highest degree attainable in the Scottish Rite.

>He had a property in Sicily, his church of Thelema where he performed all manner of rituals.

Abbey of Thelema. Mussolini put end to the abbey. Jane Wolfe, the American actor, was also a student at the abbey and was a Thelemite to the very end of her life.

>He said that he wants to perform all manner of depraved acts suck as pedo shit and bestiality etc.

There are no "pedophile" shit found in Crowley´s writings, neither bestiality. He was homosexual/bisexual and a sexual sadomasochist, but he had children of his own and they have themselves told that Crowley never abused them.

>He wrote many books many of which contain incomprihensible / allegorical / metaphorical verses and tables and charts etc.

The Golden Dawn chief sued Crowley after he published "The Book of Lies", also many of the "secrets" of Freemasons were published in the Book of Lies.

>Many of these texts are hidden in the Vatican library and are unavailable to the public

Bull fucking shit.

Is it true he is the father of Barbara Bush?

yes

this

GOLD BRICKS

Teach us Your secret, Master! yap my Yahoos.

Then for the hardness of their hearts, and for the softness of their heads, I taught them Magick.

But... alas!

Teach us Your real secret, Master! how to become invisible, how to acquire love, and oh! beyond all, how to make gold.

But how much gold will you give me for the Secret of Infinite Riches?

Then said the foremost and most foolish: Master, it is nothing; but here is an hundred thousand pounds.

This did I deign to accept, and whispered in his ear this secret:

A SUCKER IS BORN EVERY MINUTE.

- Aleister Crowley, Book of Lies Chapter 88

>I believe it to mean you can affect the material world through various rituals not instantly, but eventually, that take ages (like years).

no, magic is any use of your creative ability to change the mind of others which can range from the very simple like hey I have sandwiches for a very low price only 1.00 and then people buy sandwiches like magic

or you pray to specific god wearing specific costume while high on specific drug at a specific time with specific implements and say specific words to effect a certain change which could be wealth, freeing captured slaves, preventing slaves from trying to escape, good harvest bad harvest

being able to encourage nature to act at the time and place of your desire, and you do this by speaking, writing, drawing, wearing costume, consuming certain foods and drugs, some people believe you need to kill specific animals and consume parts of their body to produce certain desired effects, but we all know thats for plebs

>There are no "pedophile" shit found in Crowley´s writings

crimson mud of young boys could be seen that way

>Is it true he is the father of Barbara Bush?

my source at the OTO says yes, lots of high ranking OTO named in the recent PG scandal

Alistair Crowley quote :

"After five years of folly and weakness, miscalled politeness, tact, discretion, care for the feeling of others, I am weary of it. I say today: the hell with Christianity, Rationalism, Buddhism, all the lumber of the centuries. I bring you a positive and primaeval fact, Magick by name; and with this I will build me a new Heaven and a new Earth. I want none of your faint approval or faint dispraise; I want blasphemy, murder, rape, revolution, anything, bad or good, but strong."

en.metapedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

He refered to himself as "The Beast 666" and signed his name like this

Sure there are extremely questionable writings such as: leister Crowley: "Of the Eleventh Degree [of the Ordo Templi Orientis], its powers, privileges, and qualifications, nothing whatever is said in any grade. It has no relation to the general plan of the Order, is inscrutable, and dwells in its own palaces." (Liber CXCIV, 1919)
Crowley: "I am inclined to believe that the XIth degree is better than the IXth degree", diary entry 26 August 1916.
"Oh, how superior is the Eye of Horus to the Mouth of Isis!". Diary 1913 about a boy showered with "foaming seed": "While the other in his orgasm receives the waters." "Let it be no sin to us to have buggered the virle bum." "While the priest thrusts his thyrsus between boyish buttocks, All is accomplished; come Holy Dove!"

You may find this article interesting: parareligion.ch/sunrise/xi.htm

XI° – Rocket to Uranus
Anal Intercourse and the O.T.O.

>magic isn't real

The point of chaos magic is to affect the mind of the user to reshape the world around them and obtain their desires. This is why sigils must be repeatedly traced over and redrawn over and over again. It's an exercise in dedication.
You get back as much as you put in, which is why drawing your own blood seems to increase the potency of the sigil as it demonstrates your own willingness to bleed for your desires.

Astrology, especially the inept and imprecise Western astrology, is just a weak and inversed form of meme magic. It functions on making you believe you possess the qualities it describes and to look for the events it describes.
Also it's totally for chicks, bro.

I read a quote of Crowleys before that stated "young males under age of 10" make the best sacrifices, or something to that effect

If being a drug addicted demon worshiping
pedo is evil then yes, he was evil.

This faggot was the ultimate degenerate.

" For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. "

Quote by Crowley in the book “Magick in Theory and Practice”

There were others who were like Crowley. When people are desperate for information they will rely on unconventional means including seers and mediums. Their clients spill their guts out them because they believe intelligencers have some special talent. All they have to do is get many people to spill their guts and then they can seemingly "predict the future." Intelligence agencies like MI6 and the CIA have relied on those types of people, and they seem competent not because they have some other wordly ability, but because they put off a sort of trustworthy/all knowing persona. If you get enough people to spill their secrets to you then the work goes into trying to piece everything together. Baba Vanga was another "seer." Communist intelligence apparatus would go to her, as would their enemies. She seemingly "knew" everything they wanted to know and was able to make predictions because she specialized in information gathering and processing. Shaman and witch types are good at these sort of things because they are able to rationalize almost anything in terms of cult/tribe structures.

see:

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All Crowley scholars actually agree that this is a veiled Sex magick instruction.
>A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence

Refers to sperm. There are Crowley notes in his diaries how he sacrificed male child over 70 times in 24 hours spawn.

If you actually want to find shocking material, check out the "Paris Working", there are actual demonic communication where Crowley and Neuberg are instructed to dismember bodies and roast them over fire. These "instructions" were rejected.

Magic is real faggots. Summon a djinn and see for yourself.

Nigger. These post # aren't even random.

>He refered to himself as "The Beast 666" and signed his name like this

classic try hard forced edge

>This is why sigils must be repeatedly traced over and redrawn over and over again.

if you draw them at the right time and under the correct conditions they need only be drawn once, I suggest you start memorizing the 1040 different planetary aspects

I'm talking about Egyptian astrology, which all these other forms are based on, how to capture the energy of the cosmos, the planetary angels, the decanic demons referred to in the Orphic hymns, the study that inspired the European renaissance movement,

these are the books Agrippa was reading when he wrote his treatises, it's an ancient science and as such can be measured scientifically although it deals with human desires, the basic idea being that reality can be bent in any number of ways if the appropriate cosmic energies are properly harnessed into sigils, tried this shit, you can easily kill people with it from a distance without ever meeting them,

strong stuff, way more precise than the somomanic stuff although they are similar, a comparison of the planetary images to Solomon's demons would produce a very accurate method to control all of reality, you should understand many of the notes in those books are scientific in nature referring to times, dates or materials

When Celia cums, 'tis earthquake hour
The bed vibrates like kettledrums
It is a grand display of power
when Celia cums.
When Celia farts, my hasty nose
Sniffs up the fragrance from her parts
Shamed are the violets and rose
when Celia farts.
>/ourpoet/

He did! Look it up. Its well known.

I think Crowley was going for edgy, so it makes sense

Yes. Evil is real. It is the most negative form of the negative energy of the universe. Want to avoid evil? Don't invite them into your life by fucking around with summoning energies or ANY of that sort of thing.

As long as you don't do that, you will only encounter human forms of evil, which would be the negative energy of our thoughts and actions.

The spiritual real is real. It consists of energy, because the universe consists of energy. Which makes 'God' real -- being that 'it' is the pure source of light energy that created the universe.

To get closer to God, you only need to have a relationship with the universe. How? It is extremely simply. Accept, truly, as a being of energy, that there is a spiritual nature to the universe, and that you are part of it, and it is part of you.

It is every thing, and you are a part of every thing. Every thing is a part of the one, and the one is all and the same.

You will from then be able to raise your vibration, thus, bringing you closer to knowing the nature of the source, by positive thought & action -- especially positivity for things outside of yourself, but it is also necessary for self kindness.

It may sound very abstract and elusory, which may mean you aren't yet ready to accept there is a spiritual nature to the universe and it is the form, in our 3d level, as vibrating energy. You raise your vibration by being a being of positivity.

Meditating on thoughts of positivity brings you RAPIDLY closer to a FEELING of ONENESS with the source AKA God. You will feel a hugely strong, hugely present, hugely pervasive sense of inner positive energy and experiencing the positivity of the source energy.

There is a reason the elites get humans doing low energy, negative tasks -- it's so that you don't realize that simple positivity creates a direct, positive relationship with the universe and its original source of energy.

You can try it right now -- if you truly believe, you will experience what I speak of.

I seem to be getting alot of digits in this thread.

Crowley was a sinner, but great sinners can find great redemption.

Eight Lectures on Yoga is red pilled as fuck. Stay away from his meme structures but keep the structures.

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>>>SEEK THE GOSPEL OF PHILIP
>>>KNOW THE FIRE OF GNOSIS AND THE SONG OF SYNCHRONICITY THAT THE (((PHARISEE))) HAVE TAKEN FROM YOU.
>>>OBEY = OY VEY
>>>SHEKKELS=SHACKLES
>>>SATURN=/=JUPITER
>>>THE MORNING STAR IS NOT THE EVENING STAR
>>>HOLOCAUST = HOLOGRAM CAST= HOLOGRAPHIC GRAMMATON SPELL= FAKE GOD.
>>>SHATTER THE DEMIURG!
>>>KNOW THE SAYINGS OF CHRIST THAT PUT HIM TO LANCE
>>>TAKE THE NAZIRITE OATH AS CHRIST SAMSON AND HITLER BEFORE YOU AND WE CAN SAVE THE WEST
>>>WE MUST CONQUER THE TALMUD WITH FIRE OF CHRIST AND SET THIS WORLD FREE

we must defend ourselves with a spiral, as kamina did. KAMINA LIVES!

Pure evil.
Possesed by some weird sex demon.
extremly prone to drug abuse and any form of sexual perversion.
Sex/blood magick is the only true magick. he realised that but it swallowed him whole.

Interesting. Kek seems to corroborate your story also.

>To get closer to God, you only need to have a relationship with the universe

If then you do not make yourself equal to God, you cannot apprehend God; for like is known by like.
Leap clear of all that is corporeal, and make yourself grown to a like expanse with that greatness which is beyond all measure; rise above all time and become eternal; then you will apprehend God. Think that for you too nothing is impossible; deem that you too are immortal, and that you are able to grasp all things in your thought, to know every craft and science; find your home in the haunts of every living creature; make yourself higher than all heights and lower than all depths; bring together in yourself all opposites of quality, heat and cold, dryness and fluidity; think that you are everywhere at once, on land, at sea, in heaven; think that you are not yet begotten, that you are in the womb, that you are young, that you are old, that you have died, that you are in the world beyond the grave; grasp in your thought all of this at once, all times and places, all substances and qualities and magnitudes together; then you can apprehend God.

But if you shut up your soul in your body, and abase yourself, and say “I know nothing, I can do nothing; I am afraid of earth and sea, I cannot mount to heaven; I know not what I was, nor what I shall be,” then what have you to do with God?”

We will ride the 8 sided cross of chaos to the stars

4 points for christ, and 4 points for the human body

Sup Forumsogdad

god is math, the division of all infinites

How do you feel positivity if nothing in your life gives you a positive feeling anymore?

Theres shit loads of digits in this thread.

Kek is here

People don't believe him evil, he's the opposite of Hitler. In reality he was just some idiot that was slightly more enthusiastic about it than the other idiots and got famous because of it.

He didn't practice what he preached, you need to separate the man from his work

heard he was a jew so, ya.
evil

I don't know what Kek is, but there is a definite vibrational energy that resonates on a certain frequency that has been working through the collective energy of Kek-memery.

I do not purport to know the nature of the universe or its creator, other than energy being all pervasive. What I described is simply the harnessing of positive energy.

I was in a near constant state of suicidal depression for 15 years until a week or two ago. For the past year I have been force feeding myself red pills and because I was acclimatized to suffering, I swallowed 5 or 10 years worth of red pills and mental processing in that year, or less. It was awful, but I learned a lot, and consequently changed a lot.

Recently, my research has lead me to believe extra terrestrials do exist, are here, are involved in bringing down the globalist kabbal (who worship the darkest energy of the universe), and there is already disclosure of what I mention happening. If you want to look -- research the happenings in Antarctica, Corey Goode and David Wilcock. You will believe what I say.

So, this lead to me truly believe the universe is more than just our physical dimension, due to the E.T's and the elite's "Lucifer" worship and its effect on the world and on its surviving victims, whose stories you will believe, if you read enough -- all the same stories, never knew one another.

So, in my being, I truly believed in the negative energy, which necessitated belief in a light energy, which I immediately experienced occupying my very being, making me soul apparent to me, and making it feel 'whole'.

I believe God is expressed to us in our third dimension via positive energy, and to experience it, you need only true faith that there is a positive essence to the universe which is one & all.

tl;dr - the universe is good, and if you know that, you will know God.

He's a bad magician

Depression is completely gone. Instead, I am now very sensitive to the energy nature of thought, intention, and action. I can now sense the nature AKA vibration of the energy behind things, be it speech, thoughts, behaviour, etc. I can literally FEEL the nature of energy in my physical body and my soul.

Energy is ALL. And now I am tuned in to every thing, so I must be careful not to focus on too much negativity, or else it is extremely amplified. It is a two way street with energy - you get out what you put in.

>weirdos who hangs out with teenaged hippie chicks, impressing them with psuedo-philosophy and getting them high so he could fuck them.
Not just chicks....

he wanted to be evil, became a huxster, and continued to use it as cover for his degenerate sexual deviancy.

KEK HAS SPOKEN

>He was a NEET who tricked people into basically being his cult of servants.

similar to one of his more famous students

L Ron Hubbard

L.Ron Hubbard and Crowley never had any contact with each other.

L.Ron Hubbard was friend of a rocket scientist called Jack Parsons.

Crowley actually warned Jack Parsons of L.Ron Hubbard, because Jack Parsons told about giving money to Ron. Crowley warned that Hubbard may play confidence trick on Parsons, which Hubbard actually did, considering he was a known money scam artist.

>MI6
The only comment that makes sense in this whole fucking thread, Crowley was with Intelligence, they use Satanism as a cover (sometimes they are Satanists themselves, though this is far less common than believed). Why do you think he could kill kids and do his rituals without being stopped?

youtube.com/watch?v=QhFFSOpyEP8&index=57&list=PLDF03FD71FE7D634E are you retarded OP?

its not gay if its a magic ritual

sounds like something a faggot would say.

>Sex/blood magick is the only true magick
kys yourself

This is the only enlightened response in this thread.

Also, "Do What Thou Wilt" isn't a hallmark of hedonism. That's the completely contemporary misinterpretation. Hedonism is based on the ego—this concept sought to dissolve the ego and work beyond it.

The real reason why he is evil is simple. he attempted to and largely successfully created a cult of mysticism that glorified debauchery of all forms.

Rather than the common sense leaving man to see things like cannibalism or sex with children as completely abhorrent and grotesque. he made a purposeful counterculture entwined with a complex metaphysics that would essentially 'lock in' people.

In a similar manner to how politics can be a strong reason for dishonesty and otherwise supreme courage in particular situations, metaphysical reasons or exploration of the mystical can give rise to the same sort of 'seeking'.

There is nothing wrong with seeking anything, all of us are on a spiritual journey. But for Crowley debauchery was a means to an end thus making it 'morally okay' to explore.

this is by far one of the most evil things you can do. precisely because it invovles evil so deeply but does not 'feel' as evil

ya I know all about it I'm related to this guy

I have a painting by Marjorie Cameron in my living room.

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Long story short? He got depressed, decided to make fame from it.