Lately there is all these people saying countries need millions of immigrants to make up for the population declining...
Isnt the decline natural?
Jobs replaced by technology lowers numbers of people needed.
No need super large military due to the same thing technology.
What the hell are all these tens of millions of refugees from all over the world supposed to do besides get free handouts?
Have 11 kids.
...
is that an answer? It seems that post encourages creating more debt?
Why the fuck would anyone want to create more debt?
Goddamn that's my dream... a white ethnostate with a low population so that nature can run wild.
They don't care about the long term effects. They believe they will be either out of the country, dead, or out of office by the time the economy crumbles.
that would be called Harmony living in Harmony with the environment. This forced cultural change is dangerous to the human race on many levels, its unnratural. It is the virus that must be destroyed infecting society like the plague it is.
The native society being the host, being destroyed by the invaders or virus.
Thats how I see it as a science nerd at least.
>Booo there's too many humans!
>we need less people on earth!
>muh environment!!!
>first world nations birth rates lower than death rates
>populations declining
>WE NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS TO INCREASE OUR POPULATION AND ECONOMY
FUCK OFF
U
C
K
O
F
F
It's a sordid argument because it presumes that infinite growth is A. sustainable and B. worth continuing.
I recall an user speculating that the actual reason is due to new immigrants having little-to-no debt, so they have more debt potential.
I wonder who could be behind such an idea...
I want the majority of my country to look the way Norway's fjords and such do, pretty much pure nature, and then have small pockets of civilization and humanity, rather than the reverse (which is what we are, as a species, moving towards)
meant to reply to
the debt collectors..
>open or die
if that banner is real those soldiers should just open up on the crowd right away, teach them a fucking lesson
>It's a sordid argument because it presumes that infinite growth is A. sustainable and B. worth continuing.
It seems that currently that system using basic math shows its unsustainable for current populations in any first world country where unemployment goes up yet also the number of immigrants coming in for these jobs that dont exist increases.
This burden will scientifically not just create a burden on the system economically from welfare type benefits. But also on society and the people in the society including the immigrants since crime and disorder will thrive given the above conditions.
Its as if Nurgle himself plotted this all out or someone did.
>if that banner is real those soldiers should just open up on the crowd right away, teach them a fucking lesson
I often wonder why they dont, its an invasion only without uniforms or any type of war. Its the weirdest thing I have seen in my time on this rock.
Its like if the zulus just invited the british in, or anything else... its weird.... very weird and that means bad.
It almost seems someone or some group is trying to change the demographic make up of a area to make it more favorable to certain political parties.
I read pewdipie on that pic.
Fuck you, Sup Forums.
question: are there any quotes based on like how any founding father would handle this today? How obama and todays politicians are trying to take in hundreds of millions of immigrants?
If the founding fathers were around today, the government would not be the colossal beast that it is. We wouldn't have an agency for every possible thing under the sun. I don't think they would care about immigration.
>We wouldn't have an agency for every possible thing under the sun.
So like why dont we just destroy it? I mean thats the solution? Sometimes it feels like our government has become what the founding fathers fought against. Here is hoping Trump can lead America into the future we want that we need.
Example: In Philadelphia a resident is fined up to 250$ for not shoveling snow on their sidewalk. Yet the same resident has no right to build on area of the sidewalk since at the same time the government calls it a public area.
Well which is it??? Public or private? If its private property why cant they be walled off? Realized this today with the snow storm and officials going around fining people who werent up at the buttcrack of dawn to shovel their walkway. As the city official told me residents have duty to remove snow immediately as defined under the law giving the city the right to go out at 3:30am and issue fines and citations.
That is just nuts...
>So like why dont we just destroy it?
That requires people willing to fight and die. That's not going to happen unless people are starving, and the massive defense agencies are complicit and allow it to happen.
>That's not going to happen unless people are starving
Really it has to be that effen extreme? I dunno.... Im just saying that like the American Revolution didnt have colonists running around becoming cannibals. Do you think maybe like the pic you posted with the quote we just need a good leader?
...
>What the hell are all these tens of millions of refugees from all over the world supposed to do besides get free handouts?
Target practice, fuck them
This...
This,
just this
>we just need a good leader?
At this point it is impossible. The beast is too large. It is completely corrupt and cant be saved. The best leader can't do anything if these agencies will not allow it. There are to many. At this point the only way to save it would be take it apart completely, and start again.
the population thing doesnt matter. it's the cheap labor that corporations want.
>At this point the only way to save it would be take it apart completely, and start again.
What would it take to get someone like Matthis to create a roundtable to generate such a plan since I assume it would be tasked under his custodial leadership?
The processes do exist to formulate such a plan for these scenarios.
>the population thing doesnt matter. it's the cheap labor that corporations want.
Really? So wall street firms and big pharmaceutical companies are just gonna hire mexicans and africans? I dont think that will happen even if they worked free.
Truth is that most refugees here in Sweden is unemployed. Like really, the majority of them.
Elect lefties, then kill all whites and then start killing whoever they do not like.
>Truth is that most refugees here in Sweden is unemployed.
Yea, I dont see them being hired into high finance or big litigation firms.
Because this economic ponzi scheme is fucked when no more debt is created.
We had it but then came the globalists with EU and are trying to wreck it.
>Because this economic ponzi scheme is fucked when no more debt is created.
isnt it like then doomed to collapse on itself? I would assume its on life support as is with just numbers on paper being shuffled around which I know is the case.
You have less than 1 percent of them employed.
We have 125 of them Merkel guests sent here and percentage of them employed is exactly 0.
It is on life support, you are correct.
>Truth is that most refugees here in Sweden is unemployed. Like really, the majority of them
Same here in cuckistan, our 'public housing' is 90% drug dealers and single moms with 3 nigger kids, the other 10% are just crazy pakis the gov doesn't know what to do with
>What would it take to get someone like Matthis
It would probably take the support of the military, and at least some support or at least complicity from the intelligence agencies. That's not going to happen, since in order for things to get better these excessive agencies must be dismantled.
>It is on life support, you are correct.
so like uhhh wasnt the whole idea of the EU supposed to be the savior to fix that? It doesnt seem to any persons common sense that they did jack shit but make it worse.
It is unfixable.
The purpose of EU was to prolong the agony.
>That's not going to happen, since in order for things to get better these excessive agencies must be dismantled.
There is one place that is small and has the people inside to make it happen? On top of that in another place is one walled off group that could keep that intelligence part going while the other place managed it???
This could be a thing, but how would we get any eyes on this? What would it take to get Trump thinking about it in a way that he knows there are options on the table, without someone corrupted bringing those corrupted options to him thus making everything bad even worse?
>There is one place that is small and has the people inside to make it happen? On top of that in another place is one walled off group that could keep that intelligence part going while the other place managed it???
Decentralization is pretty much they way things are being run now.
>The purpose of EU was to prolong the agony.
At least your country has a shitload of cheap and fast proxy servers, Canada has 6 billion but they are all slow as fuck, not sure if the EU has much to do with that though
>Decentralization is pretty much they way things are being run now.
Run yes... but they dont operate that way... Protocols strengthened under Obama for certain centralization, it is one of the things he worked so hard for and got done.
How do you know about our proxy servers?
Funny that the people worried about the decline are the same people who caused it because "muh overpopulation".
>How do you know about our proxy servers?
Ahhhh no reasons... actually when people were getting sued + fucked by jewood about 10 years ago I started using Russian and Eastern proxies, as I mentioned, way better ping than the ones in Canada (mostly universities) and the US ones are comparatively quite pricey
All our proxies are under Swedish surveillance.
>All our proxies are under Swedish surveillance.
Sheeeeit
I can tell you that the enforced multiculturalism had a significant negative impact on the semiotic ability(expression in a meaningful way) between the people of a population. It definetly dumbed the population down as a whole wherever it's enforced.
It expresses itself even more in the inability of "multicultural" societies to organize themselve and find agreement, therefore giving rise to the need of a "third party" to lead the way.
This dynamic is present and CAN be hijacked to rob people of their sovereignity. Why is it not adressed?
To pay into the socialist governments so there isn't an economic breakdown
>To pay into the socialist governments so there isn't an economic breakdown
How the hell do they do that when there arent even enough jobs for the people already in these countries?
Being employed in Sweden is a really wide description. Most of the time they get "jobs" that some government bureaucrat dreamt up, and the majority of their wages is paid for with taxpayer money. They're literally just moving money around to create the illusion of economic growth. Hell, going to SFI (Swedish for Immigrants) class is counted as an occupation, even though they don't learn shit and most of the time are illiterate to begin with.
...
The thought is that these people will eventually get jobs and contribute to society. At least that's what I take away from it.