Defend this shit

Defend this shit

easy

>When are people are no longer legal required to have insurance, people stop paying for insurance.

Really sprouts my beans.

Simple.
Repealing obamacare is going to fuck things up as a dead man switch since it forced people to sign up for it

But it'll trickle down their legs any day now

(((Projected)))

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>no longer forced to ave insurance plan
>people who don't want one don't have to get one
>there will be people shopping around
>even then it's literally 5% increase

Health care is not a human right. It's a service. Pay for it or die.

Health insurance isn't like car insurance. You will inevitably need it and need extraordinarily more after 60 or so, so the long term responsible thing and healthiest thing for insurance as a whole is to put into it as soon as possible.

fat asses should be allowed to die.

Probably none of those 20million can afford the deductible under obamacare anyway.

It's a meaningless statistic.

>You will inevitably need it
hello fat fuck.

Letting some of them die is the only way they'll learn.

>projected

This so God damned much.
Fuck nigger care, fuck socialized medicine.
I lost health insurance from my emoyer because they couldn't afford all the added extras in it, and was forcedoing into the system.
My wife had cancer and her treatments were expensive but the insurance and my employer and I worked together and she was covered. When we were thrown to the exchange we lost all treatment options. The best fucking plan to be had came with a 10,000 deductable. We couldn't pay so she didn't get treatment. Her cancer got worse and we had to opt for experimental treatment that sure cured it but left her with severe epilepsy.
Our lives were fucking ruined because of that fucking nigger and his marxist Democrat lapdogs.

fats
smokers
kys

Notice how they're really focusing on this 60-65 year old bracket. It makes me wonder if Trump may end up lowering the Medicare age

(((Insurance))) is not healthcare.

But they were too stupid to realise it.

I won't have to pay for fat fucks anymore and people won't be forced to buy insurance they can't afford.

Looks good to me.

I don't get it why americans oppose universal health care so much. Basically every other western world has and it doesn't even cost that much.

Hello cataracts, frail joints, arthritis, etc.

With that said, obesity is probably the biggest epidemic and is entirely preventable. Numerous healthcare resources are wasted on it.

The responsible thing to do is save money for old age.

>Force people to buy healthcare they can't afford or get killed on by a fine they REALLY can't afford.
>Remove Fine and suddenly people decide risk of going under from medical bills than the guarantee of being homeless from paying costs you can't fucking afford.

Amazing. Simply Amazing. My mind is blown away by this mind boggling concept.

What's even more mind boggling in my opinion is how the Moronic GOP is actually letting the Dems run away with this narrative. This isn't even the final version. It's step one of the repeal because Democrats have decided that being faggots is better than trying improve the country, so we're forced to use a shitty half measure of Reconciliation to get rid of as much of the bill as possible and then hope it forces the hand of the Democrats to start actually working on real replacements.

And those that can't afford it?


The main reason US healthcare is so expensive is redundant administrative costs, that would be removed by a single payer system.

>haha I'm never going to get sick or injured
You have to be 18 to post on Sup Forums kiddo

>And those that can't afford it?

Get a job

>young and health will no longer be forced pay for sick and poor
wew what a holohuax

>CBO estimates of the number of people who get coverage under Obamacare is already ~9 million off
>they are still treated as an accurate source for comparison

It's not socialized medicine, it's just government intervention done in a way that makes it worse than either a free market or universal healthcare

Norway doesn't have to support a million fucking niggers who are obese and eat fried chicken every day.

Bring SOURCES NIGGER, STOP DEFENDING YOUR AUTISM

Reminder that Republicans blocked increased subsidies and drained a fund that has caused premiums to rise substantially.

Wow so a bill that will not pass in its current form is shit?

>Hello cataracts, frail joints, arthritis, etc.
t. fat fuck

my private insurance covers that easily and its dirt cheap since im not a fat ass like yourself.

Because it's shittier than most reasonable quality Private Health insurance, and involves high as fuck taxes to implement properly, and there is nothing American's hate more than anything is taxes. Literally nothing. We hate taxes so much, that we literally print our sales taxes on receipts to remind everyone exactly how much we're getting jewed out by state governments on taxes.

>higher than without Obamacare
I doubt these numbers.

>has health insurance
>finds the idea of eventually needing health insurance laughable
It's a shame health insurance can't do anything about your double digit IQ

>Projected
Also
>Implying that the quality of coverage would be good or the price would be affordable under the ACA

Most of the healthcare waste goes to:

1. Redundant administrative costs

2. No price control mechanisms. You can thank Repubs for ensuring that Medicare can't negotiate prices.

3. For profit insurance companies.

To be fair, other countries let the US foot the bill for the much of the R&D with price controls and the costs are passed onto the American consumer. This results in artificially low prices to some extent for.

I just realized that the only thing ACA did was reduce uninsured by 5%.

We saw premiums double in price FOR A 5% REDUCTION.

HOW THE FUCK ARE A COUPLE MILLION PEOPLE TAKING UP AS MUCH HEALTHCARE AS THE REST OF THE US POPULATION.

So now it's the Republicans fault despite the bill being drafted and put into law when Democrats had full control over the Congress?

It kills Medicaid.

It's literally niggers. They exploit the shit out of our healthcare system. We're getting shafted primarily because of how often they flood emergency rooms under fake names and never pay. Go sit in an emergency room in the summer in a city in the US sometime. It's literally all niggers faking a minor injury to sit in free AC.

>fat ass expects us to pay for his health insurance
>fat ass would rather continue buying food instead of buying health insurance with his own money
die you fat fuck

There's private health insurance as well here. I haven't used public health care since I was child since my employer covers a private insurance plan

Also that pic shows that you spend double the taxes on health care already, but it still isn't universal

>Health insurance isn't like car insurance. You will inevitably need it
Minimum coverage car insurance is currently required in most states. The alternative is to not have a car.

If you don't have Health Insurance, then you pay out of pocket for what you need and are the one who has to negotiate price with the provider. That's it.

Yeah, it's not like Republicans controlled the budget making procedure for a long time and could just eliminate funds and subsidies for these things, I guess it's just the DEMS FAULT!

It really makes me think. It's not Obama's fault, but it's Trump's fault all along!

What will happen to the cost of healthcare though?

We should just let the states decide how they want to do things. There should be a national market that states can sign up for with uniform regulations. States should also have the right to provide their own Healthcare solutions such as statewide universal care.

We need to stop thinking the federal government is the solution to everything

Americana's don't oppose it, industry does.

Easy.

None of you fucking naive democrats gave a shit about me or my family when premiums spiked to unsustainable levels.

Also, you fucked up when you gave benefits to the poor in a system where mandatory voting is not a thing. Did you really think poor people were going to be motivated to vote by it? The only way you're going to motivate the poor is to give them a real opportunity in our society, or by giving them free drugs and money.

this

what this really means is we stop forcing young people to pay a tax or penalty

The ACA didn't do anything to reduce prices, all it focused on was increased coverage. If you want reduced prices you need a public option with price controlling techniques.

Something that couldn't pass in 2010 because conservative dems wouldn't vote for it and they needed 60 votes.

>t. fat fuck
Nigga you dumb. Bones lost strength over time. Joints have a finite life. While obesity exacerbates these issues, you don't have to be obese to suffer from them as you age.

>projecting this hard

health insurance =/= health care
Dumbass

Too many fat asses in america.

I wouldnt oppose it if it came with a health marshal that could force fat asses and smokers to lose weight and stop smoking.

But since bernie the cuck refused to do that, I refuse to support universal healthcare.

I always wondered what it would be like to be born into a family where your dad either doesn't try, isn't around growing up, or is a massive failure.

Thanks for enlightening me.

>Bones lost strength over time. Joints have a finite life.
t. fat fuck.

You forgot

4. The ballooning costs of malpractice insurance

5. The ever-increasing cost of prescription drugs thanks to patent and copyright law expansion.

What the fuck am I just reading?

100% this

It's all lefty fear mongering and skewing facts to make it seem like Republicans don't care about poor people again.

t. Retard

Republicans controlled the house since 2010. They were easily able to slash funding for things that would have controlled the rise in premiums.

fat asses thinks that because people get old that means we should pay for his quadruple bypass surgery.

So you don't tax alcohol and cigarettes, these taxes pretty much covers but Those who die off before they get retirement age are the best citizens

kill yourself fat fuck.

>Universal Healthcare is so great.
>Trust me on this even though I also have private insurance.
No

>If you don't have Health Insurance, then you pay out of pocket for what you need and are the one who has to negotiate price with the provider. That's it.

Or, you wait until it's a serious enough problem that it has to be taken care of at the ER, where they are legally obligated to be cared for, and end up with tens of thousands of dollars in bills that can't be paid, whose costs are passed on to the rest of us.

Just take a high school biology class buddy. Or spend 10 minutes on Wikipedia, that should do it

Best way for them to die faster is to make sure they dont have health insurance.

They can still live by not being fat pieces of shit but we all know thats not happening.

t. retard

kill yourself fat fuck.

enjoy losing health insurance.

t. fat fuck retard

Buy insurance or literally fuck yourself.

You don't have to have insurance you can always die you know.

I mean for fucks sake what's next? Government paid fire insurance?

What is Medicare you stupid faggot

Premiums have risen slower under the ACA than they would have before.

>The main reason US healthcare is so expensive is redundant administrative costs, that would be removed by a single payer system.
Liar. Treatment would be rationed. People who can afford it will pay for treatment.
B-but we'll just outlaw private clinics.
Eat shit, commie.

The private insurance isn't that much better. All it allows me to get to a general doctor a bit faster and maybe some specialists but if I need a surgery or something they're only performed in the public sector

enjoy being functionally illiterate

>4. The ballooning costs of malpractice insurance

This reason is so underrated. They literally would have to revamp the entire court system to fix this, due to the fact that it's so easy to sue people over anything and come out on top.

And the private insurance costs like 60€/month if you want it

t. fat fuck retard

>government paid fire departments

fixed that for you

Ill give her a pray tonight. Thats just sad and shows the true dept they (democrats) care about you people.

>Liar. Treatment would be rationed.
Yep, just like how everyone else in the world has to wait in healthcare lines!

America has higher costs with worse outcomes, you can't defend that.

>They literally would have to revamp the entire court system to fix this
Actually the contract law only needs small changes. People with lower pay scale health plans could have waiver of rights to malpractice suits so more affordable care, and that would allow providers to offer services to these lower tiers while still being able to afford to.

There are many ways to TRY fixing it, but it doesn't get discussed much. General Practitioners are hit the hardest by the expense of having this kind of insurance. And it's a large part of why so many don't accept medicaid/medicare and other lower cost plans.

Because they are unhealthy and require huge amounts of medical care/spending.

These people could not get insurance coverage through private firms because they hemorrhage money. They can get insurance through the exchanges, and everyone else pays more to eat the cost.

A small amount of people (relative to the population size), make up a disproportionate amount of total health care spending.


FWIW: many of the cheaper "insurance" plans, are just that, plans. Huge deductibles, only for catastrophic injury. It's insurance in name only, and doesn't cover anything.

I've never understood why people are so worried about the uninsured. You go into heart failure, you get dragged into a hospital, they save your life, period. Uninsured fag isn't paying for it anyways, and the hospital will never get a penny from him. So why have poorfag buy insurance that doesn't do anything, which won't cover all the expenses anyways, so that some portion of some of the expenses might get paid?

Poorfags are a drain on hospitals. Write off the cost, live with it. No time to check with La-dash-a from the UPMC hotline when your patient is dying on the table.

>It's not the private insurance companies fucking me, it's it's t-the FAT PEOPLE, fat people are making insurance expensive for me!!! a-and ... uhhhh the BLACKS, yeah!

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why not both?

include the illegals using hospitals for free and bankrupting them.

For fat people and smokers, yes.

And I doubt you paid your own insurance 8 years ago.

Then why did republicans prevent Medicare from negotiating prices?

It costs more to give care to a patient when they're dying than it does to provide them with insurance, where they can get preventative care. When someone without insurance goes to the ER their costs are just passed on to everyone else anyway.

Why not fix it and make fat people and smokers pay an additional tax?

>where they can get preventative care.
except that literally does nothing whatsoever for fat asses as all they do is continue eating themselves to death and taking up millions in healthcare.

if bernie had included a health marshal in his plan that could force fat asses to lose weight in some fat camp then I would have supported it.

thats the ONLY reason our fire department isnt collapsing thanks to fire codes that prevent buildings from being on fire every hour.

without that, its no fucking deal and ill be laughing at you fat asses wheeze and struggle to climb 3 stair steps every day.

All those people were on put on Medicaid under the ACA, and now are being removed under the AHCA. Simple.

i am a very healthy 26 year old dude.

My insurance costs $100 a week. It has a 5k deduct, zero drug benefits, 30% copay. It has zero value to me. If i ever see any money from it, i'm going to be declaring bankruptcy anyway.

The insurance I am "losing"aka not being forced to buy, isn't insurance. Its a fucking tax so Shaniqua and Pedro can get dialysis after they've wrekted their bodies eating shitty food and engaging in niggershines.