I decided I'll be pursuing a more Pan-Slavic identity instead, I always respected Western Europe, but in recent years, that respect has gone down the shitter, even a country like UK with Brexit is probably doomed to be White minority eventually.
All of these countries will be white minority countries in a few years, I can't stand to think about it, I need to dissociate from you guys, it hurts my heart way too much. If that means considering myself Slovene first, Slav second, Eastern European third and White tenth, so be it. I need to dissociate.
I do however vow to fight to not repeat your mistakes, if that means running for government myself, close down the border, leave the EU and pursue prosperity, but I truly can't stand to think that western Europe's future is that of South Africa.
I'll see what happens with Le Pen, but at this point I've lost hope that you guys can change, the minority voting blocks are becoming too big in your countries for any real change, the best I can hope for is revolution or at the very least a stern warning to Eastern Europe.
To be clear it's not because I disrespect you, or consider myself or yourself inferior, it is just too stressful pondering over your own success, when your own populations can't seem to get themselves in order. Why should I associate with you, if your countries seemed to have abandoned the identity first, at this point we don't have much in common.
I doubt that the east will resist the alien invasion forever, i hope so, but doubt it. Portugal will fall soon too, probably earlier then Germany.
Matthew Bell
>ITT I identify as slavic naow
Jason Barnes
Better than a leaf
Aiden Perez
>Pan-Slavic yeah, cuz the slavic world is all buddy buddy, right?
Brandon Cruz
>merifats being original
Ryan Nelson
We will, all it takes is for Western Europe to properly fuck up and we will say NO.
It's already starting Poland and Hungary are already on the right track and ahead of schedule, Hungary isn't Slavic, but it is our Neighbour and I respect them for what they are doing.
I'm not saying White Western Europeans aren't going to say no to Multiculturalism, they will, it will just be at a point where only ethnic cleansing could truly solve their problem.
Anthony Torres
I still don't get it. More than 90% of the dutch are white, so why is everyone thinking that the blacks are ruining the countries in west europe. Just because they are more in the news than the white doesn't make them superior.
Joshua Clark
But you are 99.2 European. The fuck are you talking about? Do you mean economically wise?
Wyatt Brown
We can work through that, I'm not calling for a union, EU was a mistake, any Slavic-esque EU organization would be a mistake too, what I am calling for is stronger slavic and eastern European identity that supersedes White and closer cooperation, we need it.
Camden Mitchell
Wheres America?
Joshua Bailey
Those stats are not accurate, have you ever seet a foot on Lisbon? thousands of people from our ex-colonies came here and now have portuguese citizenship, but arent natives, look at our national footbal team
Nicholas Allen
Every capital is shit, m8. At least you're openly racist.
Dominic Nguyen
I just read populism took a hit?
He is expected to raise in seats instead of lose seats!
Previous election: 14 Projected now: 19
Benjamin Bennett
Me too Slovenebro. Honestly the amount of people saying they want to move east, already, is a sign. If the east fixes itself, allows more guns, and starts getting along with their neighbors, then more Western European redpilled will move there. Hell, I would. I don't see a future for my descendents here without them becoming shitskins due to race mixing with the majority non white population.
Aiden Lee
Ehmm because the only one that matters is the breeding population.
If minorities make up 20-50% of your populations in age groups that are likely to still have children, unlike your populations which are predominantly the elderly, that is the only population that matters.
You are literally in the same position as the US, except that US whites aren't as cucked. US whites make up 50% in newborns, you make up what 70%? You are 20 years away from being in a worse spot than the US, and the US is at least doing something about it.
You have less kids than the US, your countries actually have bigger demographic problems than the US for fucks sake which has a 250 year history of having non-white minorities and you've managed to overtake them in what 40 years?
Parker Murphy
you're wrong bro, Portugal became cuck, not less then Netherlands or England.
Jaxson Wood
You can add Spain to that list, or demographics are doomed and at the same time we're one of the most leftist countries in Europe.
No matter where i go everything is full of paintings with swasticas vandalized, anarchits symbols etc.
The flames are coming my friend and it's the only way to fix it, as you said even with brexit brits will become a minority and degenerate values will still go on and on.
And when the flames arrives, i'm not sure if we are going to win, we, men in the west are weak as fuck.
I hope you slavs are watching this with atention so you will not follow our same destiny.
What a shitty timeline we've born in.
Cameron White
So does this Pan-Slavic "identity" or whatever also include Russia and Putin? How does this work with Russia being in war with Ukraine.
I think you need to rethink this. BTW I was a leftist Pan-Slavic once, but I grew out of it, and right-wing Pan-Slavism is even less probable than left. I mean "left" already existed fro about a year in form of Comintern (Politbiro), but then Stalin and Tito fell out.
John Price
Do people still like Franco?
Hudson Nguyen
Yes but only the retards go open about it. The smart ones are those you not know of.
Alexander Martin
Of course not.
We're even taking away the names of our streets which have some references to that era.
Michael Brooks
no Russia , no way. Jews still have a bone to pic with Russia, they all originated from there, and are dead set and keeping it a shithole
Aiden Lewis
Have you ever set foot outside? Do they even let you?
Lisbon is nigger-bait. They aren't allowed to leave unless they behave.
Hudson Anderson
user, only some old people who are irrelevant to our future likes him, they don't count.
Michael Butler
How long until Spain gets rid of the last remain of Franco ang goes back to being a republic?
Cooper Jenkins
Not really, I've seen a ton of portuguese speak open about it. Southern Europe isn't as affected as Western/Central/North Europe. We are like a more chill and rich version of Eastern Europe.
Adrian Turner
The only countries that will (maybe) save themselves are those who will get poorer and poorer, the plebs are way too degenerate at this point to just turn things around with their materialistic and nihilistic outlook, the only chance is poverty making people hungry and recreating a sense of community.
Liam Scott
It didn't take a hit, it just isn't happening fast enough.
The red pills are being dispensed. I'm not even saying it's over for the dutch, but I can with 90% certainty predict the future of Netherlands.
>The dutch native population will eventually stabilize and maybe even see a rise in fertility, eventually, say it settles on 30-40% Dutch, 60% Non-dutch in 200 years.
>Dutch are the rulling class, you more or less control the government and you occupy the high paying jobs with token minorities, your government however has to appeal to the former "minorities" with generous handouts and welfare
>Your Capitals and larger cities become overrun and the Dutch keep themselves in their own gated communities and country-side villages.
>There will be no strict "white genocide" because at a certain point, the white dutch will just segregate themselves away, but your country will however suffer by being hit with a wave of crime, rape and murder especially in larger cities.
>The remaining Dutch will become very nationalist worried about their existence and their birth rates will probably rival that of the non-Dutch, however at this point the pandora's box will already be open, although nationalist I very much doubt there will be any cleansing of the kebab.
A similar model can be applied to all western European countries. I do have hope that Eastern Europe will avoid this fate, I'm just slightly worried that Slovenia, with split loyalty might pursue the west instead of the east, we don't have any large influx of non-whites, yet so there is a battle to be fought and won, and I plan to fight it and follow Poland and Hungary's example.
Caleb Reyes
>slav >"I don't want to be white anymore"
Daniel Johnson
Yes, old and grown up adults like him while the youth are leftshits. Honestly, let's just wait until Podemos crashes this country, we might go hyper fascist later like in Greece.
Nicholas Hill
It's like he doesn't know he never was white to begin with.
Jaxson Perry
the west is right about immigration making money, but they're bringing the wrong immigrants in. On purpose, dumb ones are easier to control, but turn the country to shit.
William Campbell
There will also be an exodus back to Eastern Europe, especially the people who moved from here into your countries.
All those Polish immigrants? I predict a large portion of them might go back, or at least their kids.
Josiah Jackson
wheres the American?
Zachary Johnson
If Podemos (leftist, commies, feminist, SJW, open borders,etc) get more power very shortly.
Our """right wing""" is cuck tier so everyones hates them and left are canalizing that anger towards everything that is right wing.
Sebastian Thompson
Any answer here is too easy.
Ian Brown
Stop shitposting faggot
Adam Evans
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Aiden Scott
Why would they? Back to eating half-cooked potato, nad get 1/10 of the pay working as a doctor as they got in England being a plumber.
Well then, let's hope they win. >implying that your monarchy ever did anything good really.
You can't really stop me m8. I especially love to shitpost in threads where are other Slovenians, especially if they're on the other side of the political spectrum.
Austin Perez
Are you western European?
Honestly I have more hope for United States than Western Europe, at the very least I know that non-whites are unlikely to go to fly over states and such, they'll just pile up in California and the east coast, maybe some of the Mexico border states.
And to be honest Mexicans>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Muslims
Mexicans are pretty bad, but I'll trade 2 Mexicans for 1 Muslim honestly
Alexander Brown
It's the french flag by now.
Daniel Russell
>other side of the political spectrum. Nationalism and self perservation has nothing to do with left or right.
I'm pretty left-wing in many regard.
The "left" has been co-opted by Multiculturalism and Marxism, if you can't identify that you are lost
Isaac Bailey
>implying that your monarchy ever did anything good really.
Oh they did, they betrayed all of us.
Chase Hernandez
>Are you western European?
Im from french Canadian and german immigrant stock
Jonathan Edwards
Keep in denial, our birth rates are the lowest in all Europe. at least 1 million non-euros now have pt citiznship, just do the math
Dylan Ramirez
No it isn't Ireland, you seem to think that things have always been as they are, and things always will be as they are.
They won't. Western Europe will wake up at some point, and so will Eastern Europe, and it will industrialize itself, remember Western Europe isn't being coopted by forces not too unsimilar from what fucked over Eastern Europe in the first place. We had Marxism and Communism, now you have Neo-Marxism and Socialism.
Carson Bennett
Might be related to the fact that young people are emmigrating and only old people stay here.
We're just spreading our seed, is all.
Lincoln Thompson
its ok
sweden will save europe
Sebastian Gomez
>Mexicans > Muslims This is true, they are Christian and they intergrate after 2 generations. They're lower IQ though, noticeabley.
Christopher Gomez
>Western Europe is* being coopted by forces not to* unsimilar fromwhat fucked over Eastern Europe in the first place
Easton Johnson
Nationalism is initially a left wing thing. The whole left right thing is a meme for the most part though
Kayden Parker
So maybe when Trump decides to expel all of the Mexicans, we can offer to accept them in return of our president having a photo-op with Trump himself. It will be glorious.
You do know that being on the left means more than just not voting for Janša at elections. Sure currently it's mostly marxism (which is waning) and multiculturalism (which isn't as strong as the nationalist try to paint it). But most of the left is just for humane treatment of others, you know all that Jesus stuff, do to others, what you wish for other to do to you.
Brody Miller
>>implying that your monarchy ever did anything good really. 300 years ago, they did
Caleb Davis
yes we are dying, finally you got there. first you deny now you agree
Jayden Martin
>They're lower IQ though Yes, but I can at the very least kinda see living along "Hispanics", they at least share some of our values.
They'll probably be pissy because they won't do quite as well as everyone else in the US, aside from Blacks, but I don't think they'll want to overthrow the US to install Mexico 2.0 at the very least.
It's bad, but one is preferential to the other
Jayden Martinez
I feel like Mexicans are only a problem in california or texas. Here in Louisiana, they are pretty good people and literally start their own businesses cutting peoples grass and doing yard work and shit. They are only bad in their little enclaves in New Orleans, but NO is shit on all levels anyway
Christopher Bennett
No mate, we're saving Europe. They just don't know it yet.
Nah nationalism was historically linked to Liberalism, which was always more of a centrist position. Then Liberalism split into Liberalism and Radicalism. 1848 was mostly Liberal revolution, not leftist really. And while at first the left might be pro nationalist, as back then that meant getting rid of monarchies in turn of representations of the people, they soon realised that internationalism is the way to go. Marx wrote about this extensively after the fall of Paris Commune.
Sure, but the post-franco era, it's just nothing much (democratisation, I'll give them that) and few affairs.
Dominic Rodriguez
>humane treatment of others What about being humane to yourself and your own population.
We can help wartorn refugees without accepting them to our countries. People seem to forget that there will be around 4 billion people living in Africa before their population finally settles down, we simply can't and shouldn't take them in.
Every time we take someone from a shitty high birth rate country in, it just leaves a void to be filled by a new birth. It isn't as if we reduce their population by taking them in, no they just replace whom we take in.
Taking them in actually means more of them.
Luis Brooks
>Slovenecucks >be a part of Austria-Hungary since forever >waaaah, we're being oppressed >beg Serbs to become part of first Yugoslavia >waaaah, we're being oppressed >become part of communist Yugoslavia >waaaah, we're being oppressed >leave Yugoslavia along with Croats, starting the legendary shitfest that followed >waaaah, we're finally free now after thousands of years >join EU asap >waaaah, we're being oppressed >Croats join EU >waaaah, Croats are in EU now >Geert loses elections in Netherlands >waaaah, we Pan-Slavic now okay?
Fucking Mountain Jews, I swear.
Jaxon Cruz
In short if you were to quantify misery, you are literally producing more people by taking immigrants from shitty countries in.
You'll end up with more people on the planet, an equivalent number of miserable people in origin countries and even more miserable people in countries these immigrants move to.
Chase Cox
Will it be like that for long tho? When I was in high school I had a class of 19 childeren and only 5 of them were white (me included).
Owen Stewart
Well nobody said anything about permanently settling them here or any where. Sure few will stay, but we should also strive for them to rebuild their home countries. That goes especially for the Syrians. I mean their country was pretty decent, before all went to shit.
This is completely true desu.
And if A nationalist whites only Pan-Slavic union would somehow came to be, you bet that Slovenians would be the first to complain about it, and then leave it.
Nathaniel Sanders
>waaaah, we Pan-Slavic now okay? The difference is I don't want a Pan-Slavic identity, I don't want us all to be Yugoslavs, I want me to be a Slovene and you to be a Serb, and for us to work together and respect each other.
I don't want us to share a border, I just wish we can cooperate... This isn't a contradiction.
And we were being fucked by all of those things listed, why would I want to add muslims to that list?
Jayden Allen
>Pan-Slavic identity, Jesus I fucked up.
I don't want a Pan-Slavic country, and I don't want a uniformal Pan-Slavic identity that erases our ethnicity, but rather a wider reaching identity.
Excuse me for that brain fart.
Angel Cook
they actually do want Mexico 2.0 in CA. I've heard it, no lie, thousand times from people in person. They think Mexicans should have birth right to come to CA, because it used to be their land. It's part of the reason why CA went so far for Hillary, while every other blue state went more red even if it ended up staying blue. Here the Muslims are actually some of the better immigrants (gasp) because they're in smaller numbers than in Europe and are Persians / Afghans. No Turks or Arabs, who are terrible.
Daniel Fisher
Live in Ventura county, beaners telling me that they are "taking over" was one of my first red pills.
Kayden Martin
No you want to add Putin to that list, because guess what realpolitiks m8. Russia is the biggest and most powerful Slavic country and any kind of Pan-Slavic union, even one based on nationalism, it would still mean that Russia would have way bigger sway in it than Slovenia, or Croatia, or Czechia.
And even if it's only an identity, to whom will you look up? Who's the most powerful Slavic nation, it's Russia again. And soon, people will either be all infatuated with Russia, half of Slovenia seems to be already, and the other half will be REEEEEEEE Putin is oppressing us, destroy the new Pan-slavic identity. Putin is killing innocent Ukrainians, that's not in spirit of pan-slavism, we demand that he either steps down, or we leave this club, or whatever. Basically, it won't stay. Us Slovenians, we always find something to complain about. It's our best feature.
Leo Hill
>Sure few will stay, but we should also strive for them to rebuild their home countries. By robbing them of their working and reproductive age men, who will fuck up our countries, but could have built up their own?
It's literally a negative for both countries.
Zelo kratkoročen in simplističen pogled imaš, sort yourself out
Ryan Johnson
Yup They are basically a figurehead who takes money by taxes. Better than having Rajoy as the head of state tho
Adrian Collins
No, I never said I want Russia.
I never said Russia, I said Pan-Slavic identity, I said cooperation. I never said I want a Neo-EU, but with Slavs
Are you a fucking retard? I was more talking about essentially everything between Russia and Western Europe.
I mean you could have asked me what my stance on Russia was instead of assuming anything.
Centralization is bad and I don't advocate it, I don't want to be under anybody be it Russia, be it the EU. I do however think we should increase trade and cooperation between former Yugo countries, and ESPECIALLY countries like Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary.
Očitno si ti nepismen, nikoli nisem rekel, da želim biti pod predvlado Rusije.
Joseph Wright
surprisingly my first red pill caused be a niglet. I was called "whitey" in 5th grade by some black girl, I was like the only white in my class, so I jokingly said "shut up blacky". She tells the teacher and I get suspended. Wtf? I told her she called me whitey but it doesn't matter, only I was the racist one. That's when I first realized whites are cucked here.
I cannot imagine how bad my kids will have it. I'm probably moving to EE or to a flyover state.
Landon Rivera
>Marx wrote about this extensively after the fall of Paris Commune. Fucking marxist.
Verjetno si ti eden od tistih kretenov, ki vandalizira Ljubljano z Antifa grafiti pa preživlja svoj čas zadet na meti.
Parker Phillips
that is Italy m8
Camden Gutierrez
>Slavic identity
How does it feel to always be inferior to your neighbors?
Dominic Sullivan
no problem you were not even white in the first place slav
Matthew Jones
>That was the joke.
I live 5 km from the Italian border, I know the difference faggot...
Angel Lee
slavs are not white, we have always different
today when west falls, usa is 50% white, germany 70%, france 60% etc We must secure the existence of our people and a future for slavic children
Luis Harris
That's okay Netherlands won't be white for much longer either
Jaxson Wright
we were*
Benjamin Mitchell
First of all, you guys are the lest Slavs of Slavs
Second: We are doomed. Western Europe is dead morally. There is almost nothing to save. The situation will not change through democracy and voting. There will be conflict sooner or later.
I don't see any reason why to disassociate with anyone really
Adrian Williams
You tell me my nomadic steppe bulgarian friend
Julian Thompson
>usa is 50% white By your logic USA is less than 50% white already, because a lot of "white" Americans are Slavic.
Andrew Bell
Da napišem v slovenščini: Tud če maš samo kao neko identitetno povezavo, kjer se samo poveča trgovanje med Slovanskimi državami (in po nekem razlogu Madžarsko), ko pride do pogajanj glede blagovne menjave, kdo ma glavno besedo, jap Rusjia. Ti ne moreš pričakovat, da bojo vse države enakopravne. In kle sploh ne gre za neko novo zvezo, al pa neki ala Varšavski Pakt, al pa Politbiro, al pa CIS. Predvsem CIS. Oziroma, kot se je včasih temu rekel Zveza Neodvisnih Republik, v bistvu Ruska ideja kako ohranit Sovjetsko Zvezo po Sovjteski Zvezi. Najprej se večina ex-sovjetski držav odločila, da se ne pridruži. Tiste k pa so se, so bile pa totalno podrejene Rusiji, pa je blo to samo ekonomska zveza, ki temelji na skupni identiteti.
Why are you so triggered? Also >implying that anti-anti-fa graffiti aren't also vandalism. Or that sad sad attempt at a nationalist-socialist propaganda known as an-si.blogspot.
Also thinking that Metelkova is some kind of ultra commie, drughead den just shows how far from reality you are. It's the go to place for all the cool hipsters. It's been thoroughly gentrified.
Aaron Thomas
>We can work through that
literally eons of infighting but suddenly we'll work through that
checking in. Fun fact: here a Persian is considered white
Carter Jackson
Why wouldn't they? They're literally Aryans.
Chase Mitchell
I'm a quarter slav and have green eyes, real talk you can call us mutts or Americans, cause it's the same shit. I'm really A-OK with it though, I'm big and scary enough.
Henry Martin
I try not to think about it.
William Rodriguez
>I don't see any reason why to disassociate with anyone really Mostly for my own well being, I'm too empathetic, I care too much for somebody I consider a brother.
I'm being a bit hyperbolic, OP is rather what I would like to do, not what I will actually do.
>First of all, you guys are the lest Slavs of Slavs
Culturally maybe, it's why we need to go back to our roots, we should take the positives of the western Europe and Eastern Europe and merge them, to be frank though, I'd rather be poor than overrun by muslims
Samuel Foster
SŁAWA SŁOWIANOM
SMIERĆ GERMANOM
Blake Williams
>It is just too stressful pondering over your own success when you own populations can't seem to get themselves in order.
Don't stress Slovenia. Worry about you and we'll worry about us.
Sometimes you just have to survive, and survival is good enough. This is one of those times.
Europe, USA- terminally underrated. We've been through worse in the past.
Zachary Scott
>fun fuct
why they are white cuz slavic+persian+indo aryans
Asher Long
>pan-slavism meme I guess our languages have many similar words, but what else connects us? Slavs aren't even related by blood for the most part, the mentality is different, we don't share anything besides language Pan-slavism is a meme from times when Russia was the only powerful slavic country, all the small slavic countries were part of non-slavic empires, so it was a plot to destabilize Austro-Hungary and the roaches. If you think about it, it didn't bring that much good for us slavs, we russkies got dragged into WWI because of it
Nathaniel Howard
>Da napišem v slovenščini: >Tud če maš samo kao neko identitetno povezavo, kjer se samo poveča trgovanje med Slovanskimi državami (in po nekem razlogu Madžarsko), ko pride do pogajanj glede blagovne menjave, kdo ma glavno besedo, jap Rusjia. Ti ne moreš pričakovat, da bojo vse države enakopravne. In kle sploh ne gre za neko novo zvezo, al pa neki ala Varšavski Pakt, al pa Politbiro, al pa CIS. Predvsem CIS. Oziroma, kot se je včasih temu rekel Zveza Neodvisnih Republik, v bistvu Ruska ideja kako ohranit Sovjetsko Zvezo po Sovjteski Zvezi. Najprej se večina ex-sovjetski držav odločila, da se ne pridruži. Tiste k pa so se, so bile pa totalno podrejene Rusiji, pa je blo to samo ekonomska zveza, ki temelji na skupni identiteti. Na sploh mislim, da je najbolje da je Rusija na sploh izključena iz te zveze.
Res da je Slovanska ampak nima vseh skupnih interesih, enako gre za Belo Rusijo, ki je ubistvu samo vazal Rusije.
Mogoče me nisi razumel ali se mogoče nisem najbolje izrazil ampak nikoli nisem imel v mislih, da bi se dejansko pridružili kakšni ruski zvezi, sem mnenja, da bi bilo normalno, da bi imeli manj antagnostično zvezo z njimi, ampak ne podpiram njihovo nadvlado.
Ne vem zakaj govoriš o Rusiji ko nikoli nisem mislil, da je USSR 2.0 dobra ideja.
>Also thinking that Metelkova is some kind of ultra commie, drughead den just shows how far from reality you are. It's the go to place for all the cool hipsters. It's been thoroughly gentrified.
Hyperbole
Sebastian Diaz
Well certainly not with you, Blacklist:
>Bosnia >Kosovo >Albania >Russia
Noah Price
I'm also empathetic when I shouldn't be when they are all day saying that we are niggers and so on. Fuck them I would not let others define ours, it was shown in the past that was a totally mistake.
For me Slovenia is Western
Owen Myers
Not with you Russia, I meant actual European Pan-Slavism.
I don't consider Russia to be European. In the case of Russia it's not about race, it's about the fact that your country has different values, besides you already have a huge muslim population, why bother?
