The claim that smoking cannabis is better for you than smoking tobacco is simply unsubstantiated. Lung cancer typically manifests after age 40, and due to cannabis becoming popular relatively recently, there are fewer regular marijuana smokers than tobacco smokers that have reached that age. (Hippies were a fringe movement, while tobacco was ridiculously widespread until recently.) Of those that have, most also smoked tobacco regularly, which is a confounding variable in any study. We have found, however, that the smoke in a typical joint/blunt/whatever you stoners call them these days contains more tar and far more carcinogens than a similar amount of cigarette smoke. (This is not to say that marijuana is necessarily more carcinogenic. Tobacco contains nicotine, which widens blood vessels and may make it easier for carcinogens to travel through the body.)
So to anyone who says that smoking cannabis is safe, I say only that you're retarded for thinking that, as even though a direct connection to lung disease has yet to be made, all of the prerequisites for it are there.
>hurr but what if I vape? *tips fedora* You're still an idiot:
The long term physical risks are far less pronounced if you aren't smmoking, that's true, but certainly not trivial. But even that neglects the further neurological dangers:
Cannabis has been linked to schizophrenia many times, and there may easily be further imbalances created in brain chemistry by protracted use of marijuana.
In case you're impatient or unwilling to listen to someone talk about these issues, here is some further reading material. I did not compile this list and have not had a chance to verify the reliability of these sources as I have done with the papers found in the descriptions of the videos above.
>cannabis-impaired approximately doubles car crash risk and that around one in 10 regular cannabis users develop dependence. Regular cannabis use in adolescence approximately doubles the risks of early school-leaving and of cognitive impairment and psychoses in adulthood. Regular cannabis use in adolescence is also associated strongly with the use of other illicit drugs. These associations persist after controlling for plausible confounding variables in longitudinal studies. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12703/abstract
>But we need it for, like, cancer patients, and paper...
Shut the fuck up. You want marijuana legalized so you can smoke it and get high.
>But it's not addictive!
He said, after his fifth joint that day.
>hurr but it's natural!
So is poison oak.
>B-but what about alcohol? It's dangerous too, and plenty of people use that.
Drinking's effects are well known, and its use has been historically far more widespread among respectable whites throughout history. It doesn't come with the same kind of degenerate loser self-righteous culture as marijuana. And most importantly of all, it doesn't fill one's entire vicinity with a terrible stench, creating a nuisance for everyone around you.
The fact is that even if cannabis were completely safe, it would still be a low-class activity. I will always look down on you disgusting unmotivated stoners and everyone else should too.
Henry Ross
you didn't have any firends in high school, did you?
Aaron Myers
>*Blocks your path* >Is that weed I smell, degenerate?
Jacob White
I had lots of friends, and none of them smoked marijuana. I don't befriend degenerates.
Robert Powell
Reminder, a weed degenerate killed his own 7 month old son after twisting his testicles all because he couldn't get any weed for a few days.
>Preston Crown Court heard he forcibly got hold of Oskar Jobey-Kennedy’s testicles, by either gripping, pinching or twisting them, and then pushed his fingers down the throat of the defenceless baby.
>He then placed his hand over the mouth of the child who was smothered to death.
Josiah Robinson
Nobody has ever said it was healthy. If you can't enjoy things in moderation you are in-fact the degenerate.
You are a stupid American, nobody is going to take to your pathetic research seriously anyway.
Owen Howard
i enjoy it
Josiah Ramirez
Weed only causes symptoms of schizophrenia if you're already predisposed to it, retard. Which excludes the vast majority of the population.
Zachary Myers
Marijuana, like smoking, inconveniences those around you. It isn't simply a question of harm to yourself. The rest of the world has to smell you.
Samuel Miller
I smoke on Saturday nights after working all week. I don't bother anybody, I have a good paying job, I went to college, I donate to charity and I help out around my neighborhood. I don't really care if some neckbeard fucking loser calls me a "degenerate" lmao
Ayden Sullivan
Mommy and daddy don't count, little boy.
Brayden Smith
>This one point doesn't apply to me >This makes the other dozen points invalid
If you think you degenerates will be spared on the day of the rope you are sadly mistaken.
Anthony Allen
>implying i do anything or go out anywhere when/after i smoke
i do it in the privacy of my own home
Zachary Reed
>Living so close to people you can smell them for more than 20 seconds Cityfags deserve their suffering
Henry Martinez
This. Stoners who claim weed is good for you smoked themselves retarded, but there's nothing wrong with toking up with friends every now and then, just like with drinking.
Although OP is likely an underage faggot that hasn't gotten to experience any of that yet
Charles Wood
You SHOULD do it in the privacy of a prison cell.
Nathan Jones
Which is why you smoke inside and not outside like a nigger, you inbred faggot.
Owen Reed
More than zero seconds is too long and is a violation of the NAP
Dylan Thompson
Your house must smell clean
Smoking inside is always degenerate no matter what you're smoking
Dominic Cruz
let me guess, you condemn alcohol too
Aaron Scott
Op is a litlle suburban brat who was sheltered and spoiled by mom and dad.
Landon Hernandez
why should smoking marijuana result in a prison sentence?
Jordan Martin
whatever faggot. more weed for me.
Dylan Bell
I post this in every pot trolling bait thread, 90% of all the people on this board who are against smoking were bullied in highschool by some Chad who smoked pot so they hold a grudge and project that insecurity onto anybody that smokes. The other 10% percent have their reasons for not liking it and that's fair I can deal with people having different opinions on things. It's when NEETS get their knowledge from being bullied and other neckbeards online
Dylan Perez
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Nicholas Brown
Alcohol does not inconvenience others when consumed in moderation. Marijuana always does.
It's called "cleaning your house and using air fresheners" dip shit. You know how your mom makes you clean your room before she makes you tendies? It's kind of like that, but it involves the entire house and not just one room.
Jordan Lopez
u are a filthy fucking degenerate and u should feel bad
Mason Young
>cleaning your room >ever gas yourself
Jack Edwards
Anyone who has friends know weed makes a person insufferable.
Oliver Cooper
>Alcohol does not inconvenience others when consumed in moderation More people are killed by drunk drivers then stoners you fucking moron
Liam Mitchell
itt: beta cucks who lost their dream girls to "cool stoner bros" back in school and haven't gotten over it
Hudson Taylor
i consume both with moderation, and i have seen more bar fights than people having at each other throats over a joint.
Gabriel Thompson
>he has to fill his house with air fresheners because everything is covered in weed residue and bong water
Jayden Carter
>Alcohol doesn't inconvenience people
Joshua Collins
Glad to see you've found a hobby of telling stoners how bad weed is for them, I'm sure they're very concerned with your opinion, OP!
Wyatt Adams
I was advised by my musculoskeletal specialist that smoking a small amount of herbal cannabis will help on top of my normal medication to help either pain management and sleep. I don't give a fuck what anybody thinks, it makes me feel a little bit better than usual.
Nathaniel Ward
Better that than taking sleeping tabs. Either I stay up all night or I smoke weed, in both cases I lose brain cells. Mind your own business faggot.
Jaxson Taylor
Wut. I only smoke once every 5 or 6 months.
Oliver Lee
Ive smoked a lot of weed and i can honestly tell you its a nigger tier activity
Brayden Carter
As the vast majority of these studies indicate, smoking marijuana mostly causes problems if you start when you're young aka when your brain is still developing. If you smoke after 18 (and especially after 20) the risks are minimal at best, unless you're predisposed to mental illness.
This seems like a decent balance. It's a nice relief every once in a while (as long as you're able to take breaks for several weeks/months whenever you want) and there's no evidence that a normal adult smoking a few times a month at most is adversely affected.
Owen Jenkins
>I'm completely okay with the government stripping me of my ability to make my own decisions in life >Smoking tobacco is completely fine though
Kill yourself OP
Aaron Moore
That's illegal. Consuming alcohol in moderation and not driving is fine, and a hell of a lot better than smoking.
Jayden Taylor
>supporting ineffectual public policy due to some perception of morality >thinking statutory prohibition is the only way for society to keep substance abuse under control >thinking a single factor is determinative of the societal worth of an individual >implying you think about concepts beyond the surface level
And most importantly:
>implying you're not a faggot troll who will respond with ad hom or canned talking points
I don't respond to shit like this for you, user. Just a little pushback for those who might possibly be influenced by your drivel.
Zachary Richardson
I love the typical stoner meme.
Camden King
Can't even spell friends, how many brain cells have you lost?
Ethan Torres
Aww shit... Some random fuck wit on the internet looks down on me. How ever will i continue on with my life without your approval? Go fist yourself. I smoke a little weed sometimes and there is nothing wrong with it. I stay productive and have a good grip on life. True degeneracy is drinking so much you turn into and obnoxious asshole and puke everywhere. Drunks are fucking annoying and it makes you a fat piece of shit.
Jeremiah Williams
Smoking tobacco isn't fine. It should also be illegal. Making someone smell your disgusting smoke is a violation of the NAP.
Isaiah Rivera
How'd those boots taste?
Bentley Hill
Hey faggot enjoy sobriety I pay more in taxes than you'll ever make and I'm dabbing right now
Evan Perry
I thought weed was making me a lazy neckbeard neet.
been sober for 3 years. turns out that's just how I am.
Landon Watson
Everybody looks down on you. You won't be redpilled until you understand this.
Nathan Richardson
If you don't like to smoke cannabis then you need to take your pleb ass back to plebbit.
Patricians smoke marijuana. This country was built by people who rolled joints in their evenings.
Kevin James
reminder that questioning of trumps and his cabinet's decision on weed happened like 3 weeks ago, where it was shilled that he was going to pursue it to the largest extent of the law or some clickbait bullshit, and he said it is up to the states themselves. hating stoners is a-ok stoners are usually leftist and are buying into identity politics. degenerate is a buzzword akin to yelling CIS WHITE MALE, so that covers the trolls, weed is mentioned in the bible so there goes 'this is a christian board', AND finally its shills promoting the continuation of the war on drugs. stop solely looking at legalization as a fucking social issue, no different than the left at that point.
Jacob Ross
Fuck off loser lmao
Isaiah Rodriguez
i might have grammar mistakes also have better healthcare
Anthony Long
Haha I need more quintin comics. wish he'd make more
Camden Cook
honestly as far as I see it weed should be legalized, but like other legal drugs, anyone who hypes it up or takes it in excess deserves to be looked down on. I've never smoked but I see no problem with occasionally smoking as long as it is done with some intelligence.
not as bad as cigarettes/alcohol IMO
Nathaniel Sullivan
dude stfu. let people smoke weed if they want. its not your choice. honestly if i could afford it i would smoke weed too
Hudson Allen
The risk of getting lung cancer is proportional to the amount of tobacco you smoke because of carcinogens created by the combustion of the tobacco. Regular smokers often smoke at least one pack of cigarettes (20 grams) each day. Assuming that cannabis is as dangerous as tobacco, it's still very rare that cannabis users smoke anywhere near 20 grams each day. This fact alone suggests that even regular cannabis use is far less likely to cause lung cancer than regular tobacco use.
>>hurr but what if I vape? *tips fedora* >You're still an idiot: Please elaborate. The carcinogens in smoke are created by combustion (except some quite unimportant additives). Lower temperature will not cause anywhere near as many volatile/carcinogenic compounds. Vaporization is objectively safer than smoking, all other things being equal.
>Cannabis has been linked to schizophrenia many times, and there may easily be further imbalances created in brain chemistry by protracted use of marijuana. The studies that claim this are shaky at best, but it certainly deserves further studies.
Adrian Sullivan
Liberalism is cancer, smoking weed is cancer. What do we do to liberalism 'round here bois?
Christian Howard
I hate the pot debate because virtually everyone involved is a dumbass. Fucking Puritans vs. autistic dumbasses: The Debate
Tyler Reed
he probably was only friends with the other anti weed nerds
Isaiah Murphy
I rather hang out with a stoned dude then a fucking drunkard
Tyler Moore
anyone who befriends someone like you is definitely a degenerate
Michael Ortiz
The cool people that smoke won't tell you like the degenerates you are against. I have a comfy job, big house, wife and kids, and smoke every few weeks but don't tell anyone (except you douches now). I know a few people who do the same thing.
I can understand why people are against it though, if they are forced to be around idiots who talk about it all the time like it's some hobby that takes skill or something.
It's different for different people too. I'm not a clean or organized person at all but when I'm high I for some reason like to clean. So basically I just use it to relax, get some cleaning of my workshop done, or watch a movie.
Sebastian Russell
to add to the shill claim, the majority of posters that are like hurr its bad its liberal its degenerate are (1 post by this ids)
Nathaniel Garcia
95% sure he was picked on too, witch is pretty fucking sad if you ask me
Angel Martinez
OP is quite obviously some 12 year old troll
Dylan Campbell
you don't smell like weed for hours after you smoke. the only thing that can potentially smell is your breath unless you're hotboxing
Anthony Diaz
lmao I'd pick on him
Levi Parker
>you don't smell like weed for hours after you smoke You think this because you've smelled it for so long you've forgotten what clean air smells like.
Jeremiah Kelly
drinking alcohol is objectively worse for your body
Cameron Green
>19 yo dependent on weed here, smoked for the first time 2 years ago and really havent stopped since then >Smoke a quarter of fire a week or more >137 iq >Too depressed about the world to quit >nobody but my gf knows im high 24/7 What do
Logan Long
bad argument
Jack Wood
Wow you are so cool xDDD
Pls can i be like you whoaaaaa *.*
Fuck my anus pls you so cool l, i want your child in me xd
Dylan Ward
stop blaming weed for being crap its like blaming video games for neckbeards if you cant handle life, and then sink all time into an escape it has nothing to do with the escape you pick but everything with you and your decisions on how things affected you up to this point in your life.
Nolan Jackson
Me trying to quit is hurting my life
Ryan Jackson
Stfu and kys faggot.
You are even worse than the mexicans and niggers in your country.
Andrew Jenkins
I work 25 hours a week and go to a good IT school
Jace Torres
I've never met a stoner like that. Nobody I know that smokes ever talks about it.
Elijah Morris
Did some buff black guy fuck your mother while smoking a joint or something? You bring "studies" to the table (many of which were denied by the scientific community for flaws in the research design), and whenever someone tries to counter it with anecdotal or scientific studies, you dismiss it as them being degenerates.
Keep guzzling away the 200g of sugar a day, ingesting two days worth of American diet in one, loading up on the MSG, and telling others what "health" is.
Ayden Ross
bro just chill out ill smoke a j for you bro :')
Isaiah Walker
>cannabis >becoming popular recently
Hahahaha yeah sure. If you are going to try lecturing people at least get your facts straight
Levi Rivera
>many of which were denied by the scientific community for flaws in the research design [citation needed]
Oliver Ross
>becoming popular relatively recently let me stop u rite there
Jacob Lewis
>>hurr but it's healthy! >>muh 0 deaths >This meme won't die and you're probably a 15 year old if you still believe it.
>>hurr but what if I vape? *tips fedora* >You're still an idiot:
>>But we need it for, like, cancer patients, and paper...
>Shut the fuck up. You want marijuana legalized so you can smoke it and get high.
>>But it's not addictive!
>He said, after his fifth joint that day.
>>hurr but it's natural!
>So is poison oak.
>>B-but what about alcohol? It's dangerous too, and plenty of people use that.
>Drinking's effects are well known, and its use has been historically far more widespread among respectable whites throughout history. It doesn't come with the same kind of degenerate loser self-righteous culture as marijuana. And most importantly of all, it doesn't fill one's entire vicinity with a terrible stench, creating a nuisance for everyone around you.
Kek. Nice imaginary dialogue you got there, faggot. Stay mad while the next wave of legalizations pass state ballots, whether the feds and Cuck Sessions like it or not.
Dylan Morgan
Turn the self-entitlement down a notch lad
Hunter Cruz
"Imaginary dialogues" are a time-honored tradition of all philosophers. I may not be Plato, but I sure as hell am compared to you degenerates.
Brody James
I don't really get it - they're both fucking losers, one just happens to have the excuse of being intoxicated.
Parker Lee
Why not? Treat it like you treat alcohol and tax it.
Also;
>giving a fuck what people do in the privacy of their own homes
Brayden Nelson
>People use quentin's shitposting as gospel now
What.
Isaac Watson
Ok now Im sure you are either on drugs or baiting hard
Brody Rodriguez
"Here are some unreliable sources I found. Read them and agree with me"
Dylan Davis
Cannabis helps with my muscles as it relaxes me.
I use it with respect and benefits to my situation.