Atheism is a Mental Disorder

Well, I'm not a statistician, but I do believe there is a strong correlation between atheism and liberalism, the latter being an actual mental disorder.

Is the fact that atheists OVERWHELMINGLY support self-destructive, culture destroying parties a clear indication that atheism offers little to nothing in terms of moral compasses by which to live a worthwhile existence?

If not, then why does the antithesis, evangelicalism, OVERWHELMINGLY support nationalism, patriotism and the preservation of white Western culture?

>tl;dr
Atheism is vacuous. Proponents often carry autistic political opinions such as feminism, liberalism, communism, etc. Liberal women are ugly as sin.

Trump voting Evangelicals are top tier qt 3.14s.

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>Is the fact that atheists OVERWHELMINGLY support
freedom.
>If not, then why does the antithesis, evangelicalism, OVERWHELMINGLY support
oppression.

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Communism is freedom, eh, leaf?

>Evangelicals

kike / Israel shills
they should not be considered "Christian"

Being atheist but realizing that world need christian values to work is the ultimate redpill

Go read a science book.

You can't support whatever system or political party you want to support. I'm not going to judge your beliefs based on some old scripture about a Jew who tells rich people to give all their worldly possessions away.

I'll just assume you are an idiot for supporting communism, and insecure to believe in magic friends.

Actual Jews overwhelmingly support the Democrats.

Typical Australian autism

Atheism as a philosophy does not support or reject science.

See: Feminists, Liberals, Communists and Democrats

>leaf falling for the freedom meme
Of course.

t. atheist, btw

Why is there a strong correlation for atheists to support policies that by their nature restrict actual freedom? High taxes, socialization, etc.

Address the correlation.

t. atheist

The most damning evidence against atheism & liberalism evar!

No, but Atheists are more likely to be scientifically literate and educated than non-Atheists because of the gargled, archaic interpretations of human society and reality.

Awoo

Not smart enough to not let refugees flood their society, apparently.

68% of atheists who voted in the election supported Clinton and the Democrat party who echo notions such as there are more than two genders, gender is a spectrum, cultural relativism, transgenderism and other glaringly obvious bullshit.

Also, address the argument

>false equation check
>ad hominem check
>correlation fallacy check
>you must be religious to have any basic morale, check

then you wonder why religion is dying in the west.

My political beliefs and my religious beliefs have 0 correlation.

If any state of freedom gets out of hand (ie; rich billionaires monopolize our daily lives from amassing wealth and resources) then it will obviously be countered by people who want a system of central control.

If the system of central control gets out of hand (ie, the Government starts to manage what we can or cannot believe in, or what we can or cannot do, monitors us, managing monopolies), then people are going to counter with a desire for more freedom and less central control.

I don't think religious theocracies, or any form of monarchy or dictatorship really belong in this balance. I don't think any social decision should be made on an individuals interpretation of what a unknown and unseen being might want.

the true redpill is that everyone is religious, it's just that the religion of "atheists" is the state

Reasonable agnostic who realizes that Christianity is important for a cohesive white society, reporting in.

The purpose of this thread is to examine why does atheism share a bed with autism? I don't care what the alternative may or may not believe in terms of religion. Again, the purpose of this thread is to examine why Atheism supports Democrat bullshit, feminism, liberalism and other forms of autism.

Atheism is literally a term for the state of disbelief in skydad/dies.
>refugee boogeyman
opinion discarded
So what? Still more innovative and thought provoking than religious shills oppressing groups of people whom are hellbent on destroying social and scientific progression.

There's nothing really to address because none of it even makes fucking sense.

>correlation fallacy check
But there's a clear correlation, not only with the relationship between atheism and liberalism, but the antithesis, evangelicalism with that of conservatism.

Its not a fallacy to espouse that there is a glaring problem within, at least, American atheists.

Furthermore, I think you meant correlation/causation fallacy, which does not apply to this argument since religious beliefs can and do have an influence on how an individual perceives society and votes within a democratic system.

You're autistic.

Answer the question leaf. I don't care about your anecdotes. No one does.

Why do atheists support socialism more than evangelicals? There's a clear distinction by the numbers.

Not really, no. I'm an atheist. I don't really have any beliefs about any sort of God. It's pretty obvious that Jesus is none-sense to me, I find it weird people still believe it.

Why do people think this is true? I don't support feminism. I don't think any atheist on YouTube does either, most of them changed their videos to fight against it.

But I generally agree more with Sam Harris than Thunderf00t or Amazing Atheist. I don't even watch their videos. Actually, I have trouble listening to Sam Harris since he attacked Trump so much.

OP, you must be new here
Just go check a thread and go see replies made after the 10th or the 20th, its moslty not the maon topic
People here dont care what you say if makes them think too hard
They will just start angering eachother for (you)s because thats what brings them joy and because they have 0 attention span

>atheist is autistic
nothing is new it seems, reread my post

Aye, the true red pill. Religion, whether we like to admit it or not, is one of the central pillars of Western civilization.

This doesn't prove whether atheism is true or false, it only shows that it mat be detrimental to society

Reminder your beloved Drumpfy is the first Atheist president who lied about attending church and struggles to even name a passage from the bible.

Are you illiterate? Statistics show that atheists and evangelicals are clearly split between liberal Democrats, the party of central government socialization, and Republican conservatism, small government and emphasis on individual responsibility.

Why do atheists support the former in droves? Why do they support communism and socialism at far greater rates? There is statistically significant correlation that reflects upon the ideology of atheists as a collective.

Read the thread user, if atheism is true or false is not even the real question here

No argument necessary

Atheism is not a belief. It is a specific rejection of a certain type of belief, namely the existence of God. That's all there is to it, there is no other underlying themes. Atheism is a negative, it's a descriptor, a reaction.

It is a myth that atheism develops as a leftist response to a conservative Christian upbringing, because Christianity is by far the most leftist-oriented religion of the three Abrahamic faiths. When leftists believe that their current faith (Christianity) is not far-left enough, then they do away with their belief in God.

Simply put, you cannot be a white nationalist and a Christian at the same time, unless you have an identity crisis. How do you go about justifying your stance on abortion in order to reduce the black population? How do you let go of your prejudices when you are approached by 5 niggers from Africa, who happen to be Christian?

Do you see the news articles of the countless Christian churches in America decrying anti-Semitism and preaching empathy for refugees and illegal immigrants? Ever feel that you're an outsider for believing in the same religion, but yet at the same time hating Muslims and illegal immigrants? Conservative Atheists who are associated with leftism feel like that too, except the difference is, that level of cuckoldry is not written into the very fabric and moral of their belief system. Simply because they have NO belief system, they're not a religion.

Christians like to pretend they're on the right of the political scale but never realize their entire religion is left-oriented. Yes, go ahead, link me that image of how many Christians voted for Trump as opposed to atheists. I'll just link you Reagan's immigration act that legalized millions of spics and contributed to the downfall of white America.

Republicanism is tied to Christianity but right wing thought is not. Learn the difference.

I don't care about your worthless anecdotes. You seem incapable of fathoming that #notallatheists share your political beliefs.

I provided above data from PewResearch that reveals the demographic split between atheists/evangelicals with respect to liberalism/conservatism.

That is what we're addressing. How atheists actually vote. Not what a couple of people you may or may not watch on Youtube believe as if that represents atheism.

My mistake. It isn't a correlation and frankly isn't pertinent to the conversation.

I don't see anything wrong with atheists being predisposed to left-wing politics, it just makes sense considering what liberalism is all about. Freedom of thought and challenging the status quo, which evangelicals and conservatives desperately want to maintain under ridiculous notion of tradition and high-horse morale.

Basically, the answer is that atheists are naturally against the asserted without evidence game and thus fall in non-traditional political movements.

The main problem is that atheism, in its modern form, is a reactionary political movement made up of edgy kids that rebelled against their fundie parents during the end of the Bush era, and that's largely the problem.

You would think they would shut up after Trump(who is probably an atheist himself) was elected, but browse r/atheism, and it's made up of complete nonsense about how Trump is creating a "theocracy" and other sensational bullshit. Many actual atheists/agnostics don't want to identify as such specifically because of this, and many of those are redpilled.

>it just makes sense considering what liberalism is all about. Freedom of thought and challenging the status quo
your jewish argumentative tricks won't work here, we all know your "liberalism" is just a rebranded version of extremist leftism

>This doesn't prove whether atheism is true or false.
You're right. Not the point of the thread.

>it only shows that it mat be detrimental to society
^ the point of the thread

Now we need to examine why atheists align themselves politically with autism.

This is a complicated question.

I'd start by saying that most Evangelicals vote for different reasons than Atheists. They most likely vote against Abortion primarily.

Atheists just vote on different issues than Evangelicals.

ok

I thought this existed and it was called delusion?
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Atheist ethnonationalist here.
The jews were right in that a mans works are the only sense of immortality one can have.
This includes raising your children and all that you do with your time you have.
Legacy should be the most important thing to any atheist.
If it isn't they're fucking ignorant.

"No man will say, "There is no God" 'till he is so hardened in sin that it has
become his interest that there should be none to call him to account." -Mathew Henry

“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton

"The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of." -Peter Huff

Still, even the most admirable of atheists is nothing more than a moral parasite, living his life based on borrowed ethics. This is why, when pressed, the atheist will often attempt to hide his lack of conviction in his own beliefs behind some poorly formulated utilitarianism, or argue that he acts out of altruistic self-interest. But this is only post-facto rationalization, not reason or rational behavior.

>Atheism is not a belief.
R u sure m8?
Why does it then correlate significantly with political ideologies, which are beliefs mind you?
If it were not a belief and had no influence on a person's ideological lens, then would the statistical evidence reveal a more even distribution of atheists supporting Conservative policies as opposed to the actual data that suggests a strong correlation between atheism and liberalism?

Mind that even the antithesis, evangelicalism, correlates significantly with that of the antithesis of liberalism, that being conservatism.

This is leftist as fuck

> It isn't a correlation.
It clearly is. Even supported by its own antithesis supporting the opposite.

>frankly isn't pertinent to the conversation.
Its the entire point of the thread you retard

How can you prove that Atheists vote on ideological problems, rather than observable social problems? Even if their conclusions or observations are wrong or short sighted.

Oh, come on! We can't be worse than Mudslimes.

>not believing some mystical story is a mental disorder

Hows that mental disorder treating you?

You rationalize anything else recently?

Atheists correlating with political beliefs does make atheism a belief. Atheism is a description of a person's lack of belief in god/s. That's it.

A atheist is more likely to align with left-wing politics because they are naturally against the asserted.

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No, NO, NOOOO! Not True!

Atheists have long supported the Democrats in mass.

Check it

Atheists vote liberal in a reactionary way. I guarantee you if Evangelicals voted left then Atheists would vote right. It's not a complex phenomina.

I meant the correlation/causation fallacy is not pertinent.

Atheists such as myself were initially drawn to liberalism because its how I could take the opposite side of most of the religious people in the U.S.

Now I realize that preventing the extinction of my culture and race is more important than disputes over religion, but that didn't make me decide to follow any made up beliefs.

So most of them are degenerate, but that has nothing to do with the case for the existence of a higher power.

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ROLLIN

This sums it up
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/06/01/10-facts-about-atheists/


Most of atheists are young and educated. They most likely follow the doctrine that they learned about in University.

You can see the Democrat support drop by 7% over the last three elections from the not religious group, and this group is growing. As the millennials age, start working steady jobs and stop complaining so much, so they'll turn more conservative quickly to make up for lost time.

This probably has more to do with age than anything.

your argument is flawed, the lack of a belief could show a regression to the mean in voting patterns with membership in a religious community being the driving force behind right wing voting.

Why is atheism correlated with liberalism instead of being neutral while religion correlates with right wing policy?

I'm not really arguing either side but you're not seeing all the possibilities.

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It makes about as much sense as saying because climatologists vote overwhelmingly Democrat, that climatology is a belief. Or because businessmen vote overwhelmingly Republican, that business is a belief.

You're comparing atheism to a religion, when it is merely the same level as an occupation.

That might perhaps explain the younger generation, at least with respect to young atheists. There was a lot of "right wing Christian stupids" propaganda on the web for the first few years.

However, it doesn't quite explain the preference to communism/socialism.

Bingo, baby.

here's one reason
>atheists average 1.3 children per couple
>less stake in the future means what's better for you in the short run is more appealing than what's better for people generations down the line

I don't believe in god and I seriously cannot understand people who don't want kids or don't want the best for the next generation.

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Communism/Marxism gives young people the impression that they are being fair and equal to everybody.

The first thing young educated people when they get to school is "Gee, there are so many problems in the world. People have so much, other people have so little. We can easily just spread everything everywhere and they would all be happy!"

On paper, making things equal seems like a good idea. Eventually, they'll have to get a job though and work like everyone else. They can only bitch and protest for so long. Once they'll start working, they'll either realize
A. They are really dumb compared to some people, and should just shut up and be happy they are getting paid and not fired.
or
B. Realize that some people are really dumb and don't deserve to make the same as them. They'll work harder and get promoted and start worrying more about their own wealth.

Their communist/socialist logic will fail over time. They'll eventually realize that all the "communists/socialist" baby boomer teachers and leaders are just using their lack of life experience and virtue signalling as a way to make themselves rich selling books and creating organizations..

Atheist conservative (other than being pro-abortion) here, dont talk for me.

Prior the Social justice taking over college campuses, most atheists were simply people who got a good education, didn't believe fairy tales, and found science a better explanation.

With SJWs taking over campuses, the numbers are pretty cancerous biased at the moment, but its not too difficult to imagine why some are socialists:
When you believe there is one life to live and that is all you get, you have more empathy for the conditions people are living in, some think at least some level of socialism is a way to fix this.
I disagree with those people and find capitalism to be superior for myself and those around me.

Well, of course, atheism in ITSELF does not offer any opinion on any subject matter other than the existence of god(s).

Point being, if it did not offer anything in terms of how individuals look at the world, then we should see a more even distribution of atheists among contradicting political philosophies.
We don't see that case.

While the rejection of a belief system, in this case Christianity, may influence the opinions of atheists in adopting the antithesis of conservatism, I can't help but doubt that to be an acceptable model to explain the correlation.

That would suggest that atheists base their decisions on something as arbitrary as merely opposing the beliefs of OTHER people and their political views.

That also fails to explain atheism's relationship to that of socialism and communism, even in countries that did not have either a history of capitalism or Christianity.

Yeah, but I look nothing like that, and I'm at an age that I really have no interest in hanging out in a park with friends.
Again, as you get older, thinking about life threw the lens of a high school student starts to fad away.

No, i just couldn't care less about religion and I'm moderate.

>Matter cannot be created nor destroyed
>What happened before le big bang? More le big bangs
>Where did the matter come for the first big bang?
>Haha, don't worry about it XD

>believes in ghosts
>accuses others of mental disorders

ok user

Low Birth rates are good for the world. People live longer and have fewer children, with a higher rate of survival.

This is perfectly acceptable. It's the expected result of a healthy society.

The problem is that third world countries have crazy high birthrates, because they die young and have a high risk death in infancy.

And to compensate for the "low birth rate problem" (that doesn't exist, we want a lower population), they import immigrants here to depopulate crowded third world countries.

atheism is closely coupled with nihilism
even though the philosophy removes meaning from all action it does offer one thing that is immensely valuable to some people
you have no responsibility
there's a reason that the overweight feminist or fedora tipper is the posterchild for atheism
these people despise the burden of responsibility, be it in their health or in their society
since the motivation of their belief is a rejection of personal responsibility, it makes sense that they'd support policies that subsidize irresponsibility

Climatologists maintain a certain belief which Democrats reflect, giving them reason to vote overwhelmingly in favor of democrats.

Lets not conflate the general definition of "belief" with that of the religious inclination. I believe that Muslims are a bunch of faggots. My belief is reinforced by external evidence, but it is still a belief.

So the inference to be drawn is that perhaps atheists maintain a beliefs that are to some degree reflected by liberal politics which then explains the statistical phenomenon of atheists supporting liberal policies at greater rates as opposed to evangelicals.

I don't know what you mean by "good"
if there are fewer people to enjoy the world, how does that make it better?

This. Religious doubts are natural, but way too many people use atheism as an excuse or rationalization for ethical egoism.

Liberalism often causes atheism.

Atheism doesn't cause liberalism.

Atheists having relatively low birthrates might be a result of feminist smearing of data.

I think a more detailed study might be in order to see whether or not this can be attributed primarily to atheism or at least secondarily through the vehicle of liberalism.

>opinion discarded
Atheist Europe discarded.

atheism and communism were sold as a package deal for far too long.

I see the relationship between christainity and right wing policy as difficult to justify as jesus was basically a full blown commie.

I'd say that religion or the lack of religion is usually a symptom of the culture/community a voter is in and that culture or community is what dictates their policy and religion.

For example some liberals in academia swallowed the godless commie pill while most gun loving rednecks just happen to go to church.

My family has been godless for the last 90 years and averages out to basically neutral on the political spectrum, but a lot of the family votes against religious policy which ends up looking left due to the correlation between religion and right wing policy.

Basically right wing politics generally heavily involve religion, so if you vote as an atheist and avoid religion in law you are more likely to vote liberally, not because you are liberal but because you are against some of the right wing ideals.

This doesn't hold up completely and people vote on much more retarded whims than i described, but it explains some of the correlation.

Fewer resources being used, lower costs
Less land being used, bigger houses, more real estate available. Less crowding in cities, Less transportation,
Less poverty, fewer mouths to feed.
Fewer, better quality products on the markets


How does high population help places like China or India? It's a burden. Once your population outgrows your food capacity, it's unsustainable and turns into political unrest.

The problem is the religion you people follow which rejects people for being atheist

Wow, user doesn't understand that percentages, in this case 68%, doesn't mean literally all. Fucking autism. #NotAll illiterate newfag

Also Atheists have supported liberal policies prior to rise of radical social justice college bullshit

Atheism has nothing to do with liberalism. Republicans have a reputation for being anti-science, that's why most Atheists in your country tend to be left-wing

>A atheist is more likely to align with left-wing politics because they are naturally against the asserted.
*an
Asserted? You mean authoritarianism? Left-wing being against authoritarianism?
I banish thee from this thread, autist.

>Atheists often carry autistic political opinions such as feminism, liberalism, communism, etc. Liberal women are ugly as sin.

Are you even trying? The generalization levels are off the charts. Atheists are not required to agree to any philosophy other than atheism to be considered atheists. A lot of the opposition to the left has come from online skepticism personalities. Don't burn bridges when the entire world is against you. A lot of atheists are OurGuys and you're shooing them away.

>white Evangelicals
>yes

Yeah, it's more of an anti-Republican thing than an anti-conservatism thing.

So the atheist's capacity for critical thinking and individual thought can be reduced to something as simple as, "Derr, that people I no like love the color Red. Me like blue now!"

Maybe you're right. Maybe atheists are that stupid. Ex. The Atheist Experience

>WAAH Atheists voted for someone I didn't like to they're a MENTAL DISORDER

>Atheism is vacuous. Proponents often carry autistic political opinions such as feminism, liberalism, communism, etc

Shill detected. Fuck off cuck

How exactly can you reach that conclusion?
If you can simply ask god for forgiveness, there can be no personal responsibility.
Without a god, we literally must hold each other responsible for actions to have any semblance of justice.

A lot of atheists are FUCKING stupid. It's just like any other group of people.

There needs to be a wake up call for atheists.

If the phenomenon of voting one way in spite of the way Christians vote is honestly wide spread, then the positions in which atheists take are no more rational than the religious beliefs of the Christians, but they are more damaging.

And it's also declined with the rise of social justice bullshit.

A lot youtube atheists are also very against social justice bullshit. I'd argue that social justice bullshit has probably turned more atheists right than gained their support.
Sam Harris and Dawkins are both anti SJW

SJW's themselves might identify as atheists, and you could argue that they use atheism as an excuse to ignore any moral or social argument against their believes. But I don't think Social Justice is a hallmark of Atheism.

I think this comes down to a fundamental miss understanding of what Atheism is. It is not a belief system, it's simply the disbelief of any known organized religion or any idea of a God.

Atheists could also be new age faggots. I have very little in common with other atheists are far as beliefs are concerned.

You're the shill famalam. It's so obvious it hurts.