Health care bill solution

The health care bill should be a mandated Health Savings Account, deducted from paychecks like a FICA tax. Cap it at $10000 for the young, and graduate it upwards as you age. Separate, catastrophic plan mandated, which will by it's nature will be very cheap.
Done.

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the healthcare solution is stop taking care of niggers and boomers and "accidentally" abort all mestizo children

Blacks are victims of democrats, not genetics. Fix the liberal problem, and that one auto-fixes.
Boomers built the country, so strike two.
Mestizos in the US are also a liberal auto-fix.
Strike three and the crowd goes wild.

if Democrats are the problem then why doesn't Portland look like Atlanta?

Fuck you. Lower the overinflated costs, and the price of healthcare isn't a problem.

I've also had this idea but it would turn into the same shit show as social security and the governemtn would raid the funds.

insurance needs to be abolished for this to happen.

Single. Payer.

If you get sick and go to the hospital, they do the deed regardless of what you have. They bill the government. Who pays outright.

This system does not prevent or stop insurance companies from existing.

>boomers built the country
nigger are you insane? you have your generations all wrong.
boomers pissed away their parents wealth, then they pissed away their wealth, then they took on debt pissing away OUR wealth, put into place parasitical systems that extract the wealth we create through MORE debt to sustain their untenable unnatural lifestyles, all while throwing away the safe homogenous societies they enjoyed that their parents handed to them just so some fucking heebs and their pet niggers wouldn't call them bad names.

Good luck saving up $50,000 for that broken leg, $10,000 for that baby delivery if you loser neet fuck reproduce, or $10000000 for that chemotherapy, dumbshit. You should kys and save money, desu.

single payer is basically one big ass monopoly of governement acting as insurance. it would be horrible

not everyone can afford to live that's cold hard reality.

For profit healthcare is inhumane and the real corrupt mega biz. Are you fuckng retarded? Get yourself checked.

Aaand youre an edgy troll. Fuck off.

Let everyone pay for their own shit, stay out of my wallet. How about that? Why don't you start a fucking CHARITY if you care so much.

how is that edgy? doctors make decisions on who lives and dies based on money already.

Profit is incentive and necessary if you want a good level of quality

It's not your money, it's not your fucking business how I spend mine. It's MY money. Earn your own money you thieving piece of human garbage.

no mandates. that's ACA tier. Just make HSAs and health insurance tax deductible.

Also figuring out how to make Health Associations a viable way to let individuals, families, and business negotiate plans as group should also be a part. It's a very American and very free market route. Health Associations could be like a modern twist on the is lodge practice system

>healthcare for everybody?
>no! mine mine mine
How about trillions for israel's wars?
>yes. no problem

Fuck you.

imagine rationing out free healthcare in a shit tier bureaucracy full of chattering low IQ third worlders

Fuck Israel too, you're all a bunch of thieving cunts.

Threadly reminder that healthcare in the U.S. IS NOT A RIGHT.

YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THE LABOR OF ANOTHER PERSON FOR MERELY EXISTING.

GO FUCK YOURSELVES YOU LEECHES.

You must be young. When you need healthcare and face a multi thousand dollar bill youll change your tune, you shortsighted, worthless fuck.

I will never understand why Sup Forums is against unions then. A union is just a bunch of people deciding how much their own labor is worth.

>definition of Slavery:
>a condition of having to work very hard without proper remuneration or appreciation.

These people are the new slave masters and they don't want to admit it. They don't see anything wrong with seeing people as property. Hand over your means of production or I'll throw you in a cage and take away your family. Perfectly normal behavior. These people are psychopaths.

You must be either very rich or a very miserable person. I wish the worst for you.

it's MY money and I want it NOW

I thought you people were of the opinion that taxation is theft?

Mandatory saving sounds about the same.

Because pol is full of edgy, pathetic cunts that hate themselves so much, they rather see everyone be as miserable as they are. Thats all.

They don't want something that works you fuckin idiot

Why? Am I your property? Why can't you just ASK for my money? Why the gun? Weren't you the good guy? Why threaten my family if you're the good guy? For every euro I earn, 66.5 cents goes to the state. That's before income taxes. It's slavery, plain and simple.

Youre not even american. Shut up and fuck off back to your mudhut.

Unions don't look at the market, they shut down businesses if they don't get their way. Detroit is a good example of what unions do.

>why doesn't Portland look like Atlanta?
Portland wasn't leftist as long. Atlanta leftists are trying to fix their white guilt feelings.
Give it time. Portland will collapse just like California.

Also allow insurance to charge different rates based on risk factors. Race, sex, drug history, criminal record, obesity etc.

no I'll be all like "man it would be great if these squatemalan nurses would quit chit chattering with eachother and tell that negro heifer to stop texting with her giant fake bear claw nails and go get that fucking bindi doctor to hopefully get me the good drugs as i lay here dying of antibiotic-resistant airborne super-zika that was breeding in the assholes of some Cuban faggot from Miami"

worker unions and insurance unions are very different things tho

Socialized healthcare is a bad system, it doesn't matter morally speaking in which country I am. It's slavery. You are advocating slavery. You are evil. You are a totalitarian.

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>Fuck you. Lower the overinflated costs,
No thanks. Agreed, but most of those are legal fees, and lawyers run Congress. I'm still waiting for Trump to talk about that.

>You must be either very rich or a very miserable person.
And you're clearly a shitskin/poorfag/berncuck who doesn't understand how our Constitution works. muh feels is not a rational argument, fuck off back to facebook.

California has great parts that are coincidentally full of white people.
it also has dangerous criminal hellholes that are coincidentally full of mudpeople.

>boomers built the country
shit bait

>same shit show as social security and the governemtn would raid the funds.
SS was put into the general fund.
An HSA is not a tax, it's put into a bank you choose. No .gov hands ever touch it.
I have an HSA now. Money you put into it isn't taxed.

So a company can charge what they feel is right for their goods/services.

But i cannot charge what I think is right for a service I provide?

Also companies collectively decide rates for goods and services all the time. Just look at internet service in the United States. It is very high because of how much the companies collectively decided to charge.

Make people pay for their own shit choices and genetics. Health insurance isnt a right and not everone deserves to live.

>boomers pissed away their parents wealth
Boomers are post-WW2. They built the country we're living in now.
Kids today are mad at them because they want Pops to die without spending 'my inheritance'.

Are you retarded? How is it slavery? Doctors still get paid.

An HSA is for typical expenses.
I specified catastrophic insurance for cancer, auto accident, etc, that won't be used much and will be much cheaper.
> $50,000 for that broken leg
I'll bet you get taken advantage of a lot. My broken leg cost $700.

What are you talking about? Of course you can negotiate your salary. That is VERY different from accepting a job and then crashing the business if they don't pay you MORE than you agreed to work for. Price cartels are ILLEGAL already, like murder and raping children is. Solving crime with crime isn't a good idea if you want a stable society based on voluntary interactions.

And who pays the doctors?

>For profit healthcare is inhumane
>Chain doctors to a bed and whip it. Whip it good.
You live in a fantasy world if you think anyone will study medicine with no payoff.

>Let everyone pay for their own shit,
That's the problem, as Trump and Obama pointed out.
More people care about getting a phone and data plan, and expect me to pay for their doctor.

yes they built everything from the late 60s on and it's fucking terrible and traitorous.

and yes we are furious that the boomers pissed away our birthrights, leech off our potential in gross debt schemes robbing us of the opportunity to have stable fruitful families, and replace their own children and grandchildren with foreigners just so they won't be called mean names and can support their evil fucking Ponzi schemes.

>california
>collapsed
you realize california not only has the most white people of any state, but the most white republicans of any state as well, right? we are 4x the size of sweden and have the 7th or 8th largest economy in the world. we created the fucking internet and Sup Forums you faggot, we are the reason Trump is in office. do not take california for granted ever again you stupid fucking cuck.

>doctors make decisions on who lives and dies based on money already.
The bad ones do.
The good ones shunt you to a charity hospital, which are some of the best. Christians are a soft target.

Why would they care as long as the government robs the people to pay for their voter base's stuff. Just set the taxes to 15% on income, create a budget and then work within that budget. People are not cattle, governments can't just say "oh we ran out of cash let's just grab some more" without dire consequences.

People should look at socialist Venezuela. 90% of the people are starving now after a few years of free shit. Dead people by the roadside everywhere.

>Just make HSAs and health insurance tax deductible.
That's the problem now. Millions say no to both, and I get stuck with the bill.
And the tax deduction is why Trumpcare isn't going to pass.

>I will never understand why Sup Forums is against unions then
Unions are Constitutional, and just fine.

Public Employee Unions are evil, responsible for most of our debt, and what we mean when we say we're anti-union.

>I thought you people were of the opinion that taxation is theft?
No. We need to pay for defense and etc.
It is theft when it's for obamaphones.

Meh, if someone becomes part of a union here, they are protected by government so you can't negotiate their salary if they don't do as good a job as others. It means you have to fire them, which costs a lot of money short term. Who benefits? I don't see why governments need to get involved in an agreement between 2 parties.

The insurance should just be for catastrophic care.
If you start charging different rates, you'll create a monster bureaucracy. The .gov needs to be kept out of it.
Poor lifestyle choices will lead to a shorter life, so their premiums will be applied to the people who made better choices and die at 90+.

You know calling people retarded and resulting to ad hom attacks isn't the best way to sway people to your viewpoint. In fact you really haven't presented any compelling arguments thus far besides just posting inflamatory bait posts. You're a shill and you're shitty at hiding it.

They'll all fall at the same time. Anyone dumb enough to stay there deserves it.

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>Literally saving a thumb-nail

What the fuck is wrong with you are you five?

You fucks elected Obama and you vote leftist in every election.
You drive up the debt. You don't want children. You are in favor of open borders.
Nice deflection, but I deflected your deflection.

the "fall" would be the untenable decline of the white population such that non-whites eat them.

you're so obviously avoiding the very, very obvious race issue here.

White lefties build comfy douchebag weed and granola places like Colorado and Oregon.

meanwhile in non-white areas you get "urban blight" and there are ZERO conservative/libertarian black or brown nations

yeah millennials are the most damaged by the boomers' society. i agree. luckily "generation Z" is the most conservative in 70 years seeing what happened to us millennials

Stefan made some interesting videos about this

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youtu.be/nTdMY9RI-7E?list=WL

It perfectly explains SJWs from a genetic point of view

>you realize california not only has the most white people of any state
Only by total, not percentage.
>we created the fucking internet
It started there when it wasn't liberal. It stays only for liberal ideals, but even Apple can't save you now.
Stats don't lie.

That's what I'm talking about. No .gov involvement.

>I don't see why governments need to get involved in an agreement between 2 parties
They don't with valid unions. The law specifies using arbitrators that the involved parties pay for.
Public employee unions are all government.

yeah i listened to all those already. we're going to usher in the K shift in generating Z and our children.

we WILL undo the Jewish century

Race has nothing to do with anything.
The democrats and their policies are doing the harm.

Excellent taste, my dude. I can't spread enough of these videos around to get people to think for themselves. Even got a redpilled girlfriend out of it who wants to grow old and have loads of kids.

then why doesn't Portland, Boston, or Denver have the problems that Detroit, Atlanta, and Chicago do?

Why doesn't Appalachia, highly dependent on welfare, have the crime rates of black areas?

Watch all the videos in to understand where we are coming from. Genetics is a complex subject, but it's far from magical and incomprehensible.

The length of time democrats have been in total control. Detroit is the worst because it was all democrat top-to-bottom.
Every democrat controlled city and state has massive debt. The rate of collapse differs, but the outcome will be the same.
All of the problems blamed on blacks were started, financed and controlled by whites.

>Conservacucks
> BTFO

You guys could have done exactly this. But, you are too consumed with stupid and hate to be winners.

You fucking losers.

The Democrats is definitely an evil organisation. The videos in only further demonstrate that, because the people who devised these plans knew exactly what they were doing. It's social engineering for personal profit and power.

That doesn't excuse the inferior races and cultures that enable them. They all vote Left because they can't compete and they're not intelligent enough to understand that. They don't understand the concept of property and freedom, so how can they defend these values necessary for a free society?

nope, Boston has been liberal for a long fucking time, and you didn't even mention Appalachia which is highly welfare dependent but very peaceful, especially compared to black areas.

i used to be where you were until i confronted this fact: even lefty areas, run and populated by white people, are peaceful if a bit silly and debt-heavy (like many European countries, funnily enough).

meanwhile black run areas look like African hellholes.

you've got to face up to this guy. South Africa was a beautiful first world country handed over to blacks on a silver platter. life expectancy plunged and homicides went up tenfold

Google yourself up some
"mountain pride"
Appalachia was poor, but they weren't welfare-dependent like blacks.
Blacks started getting paid in the '60s, and if you don't work for a living, you lose your pride and become scummy.
The Obama admin mounted a campaign to make whitey take welfare, so they could be kept and vote democrat, too.

It's not a coincidence that Millenials have the same attitudes and feelz as blacks do.
It's the same cause, leading to the same effect.

>muh single negro libertarian

blacks were upwardly mobile when under intense repression and segregation. Yes the welfare state introduced r-selection to them, but they evolved in r-selection and have an average IQ of 85. They returned to their natural states, a reaction far different than when welfare is offered to white people who by and large are K-selected and have an average IQ of 100.

You need to get this through your head. Whites have a variety of political options and different economic and social welfare structures can work with them, but blacks and equatorial browns ALWAYS vote for the gibs and the societies they run ALWAYS end up resembling their homelands.

Before the democrat party got ahold of blacks, they were like Waldo. They blended in to the background.

>implying your current system isnt an insurance conglomerate/monopoly

the same insurance ceos are your gov't

there is no separation of gov't and business

insurance is just a private tax

Look at what the white European countries are doing right now. They will be no different that Nigeria in time.
They took a while to become this way only because they've always waged genocidal wars against each other. Now that they are solidly socialist, i.e. American democrats, they're going down the same path.

they would look like Japan: a reduced birth rate and an economic recession leading to a political realignment, but ultimately a very peaceful and civil society throughout.

introduce a violent and growing minority of Africans and Arabs and you get what's happening in Sweden, Paris, and Germany. Mass rapes, violent crime explosions, and "urban blight"

it's right in front of your fucking nose, guy. just start believing in evolution.

Blacks have much, much lower IQs. Yes, there's a few near a 100. That doesn't make the rest of Africans desirable people to have near you. They lack impulse control, language skills and have huge amounts of natural estrogen and testosterone fucking up their decision making skills.

You can't ignore genetics and biology in these discussions. I strongly urge you to watch the videos I've linked several times now, THEN come back and make the argument that genetics and biology are irrelevant.

You could do what we do:
>free healthcare for children and elders
>adults have free checkups and procedures and such but must pay for medicine which is half price if you have health insurance (you renew it on a biannual basis which is covered by your employer for little money)

This, look at how much doctors make in NZ or the UK compared to the US. The best doctors in the world are all clambering to get here because we actually pay them well considering their education level.

Most people in tbe US would not spend 8 years in post secondary school so theh can make 70k a year just because "I love helping people and watched too many episodes of house". Especially when your preferred method of practice will then be hamstrung and dictated to you by the government.

>ultimately a very peaceful and civil society throughout.
Dying, in other words.
>introduce a violent and growing minority of Africans and Arabs
Arabs, I agree. But you're ignoring the democrat angle with blacks.

blacks act the same in Europe dude. where the fuck do you think Morocco and Somalia are?

you're trapped in this fake Buckley cuckservative paradigm that can't look the realities of race in the eye because you've been browbeaten and propagandized your entire life to avoid it.

Democrats exploit low IQ r-selected races, we know this already, it only works because they are already low IQ and r-selected

also you can't just brush off Japan as "dying". there are economic cycles at play that reflect in the governing structure and birthrate, but if you have a peaceful ethnic stock and maintain it as the Japanese do then what you mindlessly refer to as "dying" is revealed as merely a deflationary period. It's FINE. not great, sure, but not violent, savage, barbaric, and civilization-ending like you see in Europe where they have tried to fight these effects by importing the third world to prop up their socialist Ponzi scheme

The fuck are you talking about, have you seen a Japanese city? Yeah, they aren't having enough kids to stay at replacement level because after ww2 some ~90 cities and millions of people were burned alive so obviously there's suddenly ROOM TO GROW. Now that everywhere is filling up, the birth rate declines.

Kikes did the same thing in the Netherlands.
>Introduce minimum wage
>say nobody wants to work for less while in reality they can't because almost nobody can afford it
>import massive amounts of dumb foreign labor
>give them citizenship illegally
>these illegal retards breed
>justify it by saying "we're dying off, we need these people" when housing is extremely scarce because of the large number of people living in the Netherlands

Old people dying off, new generations having more kids, then having less kids and dying off is PERFECTLY NATURAL. It's how wealth and property can shift for fucks sake.

Better idea: everyone is responsible for buying their own healthcare if they decide that they actually WANT healthcare.
Done.