Stoners Vs Drunks: Who is more degenerate?

Stoners:
> smoke weed
>dude weed lmao at everything
>play vidya with other stoners
>order food

Drunks
>loud
>dumb
>can't talk properly
>can't walk properly
>stink like alcohol
>may cause crime like vandalism, public urination/defaction/vomiting, petty theft, rape, assault, domestic abuse
>makes women act like whores
>leading cause of white males being arrested
>leading cause of STDs being spread (drunk unprotected sex with bar skank)
> Drunk drivers kill people and try to act innocent


Well, according to /pol, stoners sound like "bro tier gamers who like a plant"

Drunks are way bigger degenerates.

If you hate weed smokers cuz
>muh degeneracy
You should REALLY HATE people who drink alcohol. Even 1 beer is too much.

If someone smokes a joint every weekend and is labeled a loser failure, anyone who drinks 1 or more beers should also be labeled a loser failure junkie addict piece of shit.
They are far worse.

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Stephan king is a piece of shit.

Democrats

>Drunk guy
>Talks about anything and everything with you

>Stoner
>Only wants to talk about how stoned he is

Stoners are more fucking annoying by a mile.

Good argument.
I can totally see why stoners are way more degenerate.
Stephen King.
Pissing yourself, puking all over yourself = fine.
Stephen King = weed is degenerate

>don't hang out with stoners??

Wow, hard fucking concept eh Bogan?
Everyone wants to hear about the slut you rooted back in 1982.
>wanna hear the story about me I told 1000000000 times before?

>A fucking leaf

No contest, alcohol users are far more degenerate losers than pot heads.

Time to change public perception of alcohol.
It's not cool.
You're not cool.
Drinking doesn't make you cool.
It makes you a degenerate.

You're worse than a stinky Dude Weed LMAO stoner.

Prove me wrong
Pro tip: you can't

>Muh pissing yourself
>Muh vomiting
>Muh domestic violence
>Muh drunk driving
If you can't control yourself, you shouldn't be drinking 18 beers m8.

Where do white women meet Jamal?
>At da cluuuuubbbb
>Let's go clubbing girlfriend!!!
>Let's get drunk girlfriend!!
>LMAO I woke up in a room of 10 black guys naked!! LMAO wow, what happened?? Better blog about it LMAO

White women stoners don't fuck black guys.
>inb4 the one cherry picked example of white girl with dreads in Jamaica with black bf

Did anybody hear all that stupid shit (((Mike Enoch))) was saying about weed on TDS recently?

If someone is labeled a loser degenerate stoner for smoking weed on weekends, anyone who has 1 or more beers on the weekend is the same level of degenerate if not worse.

Alcohol is odorles, dumb stoney.

Is there anything worse than trying to round up a group of wasted people while you are sober? I'd rather deal with stoners any day

LEL
This drunk stinks like alcohol so often he doesn't notice it.

Ask a smoker, who smokes inside, if they smell like smoke.
They do, but they don't think so.
Get it?

Alcohol is not odorless either. Alcohol has a distinct smell.
Many wine tasters and alcohol experts use smell as a way to judge alcohol quality.

Gee, do you try and be this fucking stupid, or it just come naturally alco-junkie??

You can get drunk in public

You get arrested for weed in public

I imagine if weed was legal in all fifty states our country would have a hard time functioning because of how many potheads would be smoking weed all god damn day long.

At least drunks wait til the night time.

Weed is more degenerate. Not necessarily because of the effects of pot itself but because of the culture surrounding it. Beer culture is about knocking back a few pints with your mates and having a laugh. Drunks are annoying of course and alcohol fuels a lot of fights but for the most part drinking to this level is shunned and look down upon.

Stoners, however, no matter how much of a loser they are always have a smug sense of superiority about them; as if by smoking weed they've somehow become privy to revelations now one else knows. It doesn't matter how shitty their life actually is they'll always think much better of themselves than they deserve.

That's the funny thing though, it's not that weed makes people this way per se, it's that these types of 2deep4u guys, for whatever reason, are always drawn to the stuff. I've met plenty of functioning alcoholics who, despite their heavy drinking were otherwise normal people with families and jobs, but I've never met a stoner who wasn't also a complete fuckup.

Beer drinkers see drunks as disgusting and something to avoid. Weed smokers see stoners as cool and try to live up to them.

Used to be weed had 6percent THC, nowadays it's plus twenty percent. Cherry picking morons. Don't use your illusions.

>Implying you don't have a drinking problem as a pole

Argument based on a hypothetical situation you just thought up isn't valid.

Assuming pot users are children who cannot control when they partake in their substance of choice is ad hominen.
It's not a real argument. You're using an insult as leverage.

>at least drunks wait till night time
You can buy beer at 7am in some places in Canada.

More fallacy.
You need to argue facts and real things. Not use your imagination, you jew.

Drunks, no stoner beat and rape his wife under effect

Hash has always been 20+ percent and smoked throughout the 70,80,90s.

Uninformed Nederpol BTFO

>get drunk with mates
>start fights
>grope women
>piss in public
>act like an asshole

NOT DEGENERATE CULTURE.

Okay junkie. Go check into a substance abuse center.

No no no, that's a guy who can't
>handle his liquor
>drinks wrong
>can't drink right
>drinks too much
>drinks too little
>drinks the wrong kind of alcohol

Alcohol is not the problem.

You clearly didn't read my post because I noted that all of those are looked down upon. Everyone is warned when they turn 18 not to drink too much and look like a dickhead. My point was that while these are the unfortunate downsides of alcohol, they're not encouraged by alcohol culture. Learn to read, kid.

So what?
20% weed isn't going to make you piss on a cop car with your pants around your ankles then throw up on Jamal in the holding cell.

Keep making excuses you junkie cuck.

All it takes is some self control to not over indulge in either. Why is it so hard to only have a beer or 2 and call it a day?

>He thinks weed won't make stoners do all the shit that drunks do as well
Fuck off stoner.

I did read it.
No one who drinks partakes responsibly.
You all go out, act like total fucking dickhead degenerates and it's just
>hur dur, lads knocking back some suds eh?
No matter what happens that night and something always does, you'll forget it or blame something else.
>it's shunned
But happens every single time people get drunk.

Shit argument junkie. Get help. Or don't.
I don't listen to pickled brained drunks.

>tfw old enough to remember when your weed came with seeds in it and they used to pop when smoked so people used to rave about sensimilla

Weed back then also had a much different smell to today and wasn't as obnoxious, it was much a similar smell to afghan-hash than todays pungent weeds

I don't smoke anymore but Alcohol certainly causes the country much more financial and societal stress than weed ever will

LOL
Fuck off 10 year old.
They seriously have different effects. If you honestly think that, you're a total fucking retard.

LEAF

>Assuming pot users are children who cannot control when they partake is ad hominem

No it's just common sense. You're a fucking leaf as it is. Pot heads get busted for pot all the god damn time. You'll hardly find a public intox or DUI during the day time.

A pot head will come over to your house and start smoking up because "lol dude weed" a drunk will stick to bars and MAYBE bother you later in the night for a ride due to how wasted he is.

You can buy beer from your local store.

Pot heads suck nigger dick for it.

Stop smoking pot and make me some syrup.

>smokes a joint every weekend
FUCKING DEGENERATE!!

>drinks 2 beer daily and calls it quits
Red pilled guy.

No.

1 beer = you're an addicted junkie who won't amount to shit.
Alcohol is worse than weed.
If you drink, you're worse than a stoner.

Prove me wrong?
You can't

holy fucking faulty comparison!

Also, why is Stephen Kang on the weed side? He's notorious for having been a raging alcoholic

No no no, facts are hurtful.

(you)

typical leaf

Donald Trump the President of America and Billionaire doesn't drink alcohol.
Put him in a hijab too.

Ya sorry, your arguments are based off your bullshit made up views.
You're a total retard. Not worth an actual reply.

>Alcohol
>Kill people in car crashes due to irresponsible degenerate behavior

>Marijuana
>Kill people in car crashes due to irresponsible degenerate behavior

Who is more degenerate? Its simple, really

Nope.
Exactly the same.
Alcohol is worse too. Over drink which always happen and shit goes wrong.

Over smoke and you go to sleep.

Sorry junkie, you're a degenerate scum bag.

Wow, great arguments guys.
Alco-cucks.
Suck that bottle like a cock, you junkie bitch

>No one who drinks partakes responsibly.
Citation needed
>No matter what happens that night and something always does, you'll forget it or blame something else.
You're assuming people always drink to the point of drunkeness
>But happens every single time people get drunk.
Again assuming people will always drink until they pass out

Just because you have no self control doesn't mean that everyone else is the same.

>Describes getting high with a twelve years old

It's posts like this that make me believe a lot of pol users are sheltered virgins.

Marijuana has an estrogenic effect on men. Enjoy your titties, sweetheart.

Can you post some news articles where marijuana was the SOLE cause of the accident and death??

SOLE CAUSE

Cause alcohol is linked to 10000s of deaths.

Weed = 0

Junkie cuck loser.

LEL
Okay junkie. Have fun with your life in the gutter.
You're more degenerate than a stoner.
Truth.

Got a source for that?
Alcohol is full of calories and does cause weight gain in most users.
Again, just ignore real facts and science cause you're a junkie.

>White women stoners don't fuck black guys

You're so fucking stupid

>18 beers
Are you sure you dont want them in baby bottle?

You sound a bit defensive, leaf

>you're so fucking stupid
Wow, you sure proved me wrong.

You said something online, discussion over.

Get fucked you little idiot.

I'm just treating alcohol users like they should be treated.
Like stoners, but worse.
Cause they are.

If one of these two is illegal in your country, the person who uses it is the most degenerate. In case both are legal, they are equally degenerate.
To be moral and rightfully you must do your best to avoid such evils in your life. Of course, since we are only human, it is impossible to achieve ultimate level of morality and avoid all degeneracy, however it is your duty to pursue such level.

>Has no counterargument
Pathetic. I can't blame you though, it's hard competing with a hotshot like me. Head off to bed now leaf and try not to wake your Chinese neighbors with your autistic fits.

Most "craft beer beardo hipsters" look like that cow.
Cause alcohol makes you fat.

I HAD man titties when I drank.
Not anymore.
Cause I stopped drinking.

Cause you're a literal retard who ignores reality.
People over drink all the time and act like assholes.
>citation needed
Go downtown to any bar district on any weekend.
Your imagined how people act when drunk VS reality
I go with reality.
You're a junkie faggot trying to justify acting like a degenerate faggot.

Might as well talk to a crack head. You're the same level of delusional

>hot shot
LEL
Got an ego much?
You're on Sup Forums, defending alcohol with insults.
You're probably a fat fuck shut in or pasty beta manlet skelly.

Alcoholics are way more degenerate.
Just cause it's legal doesn't mean anything.

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Cringe

1 joint = degenerate

1 beer = degenerate

Fair is Fair

Don't make excuses junkie.
If you drink 1 beer, you're a degenerate piece of shit junkie addict, worse than a pot head.
Don't kid yourself.

You don't see old bum pot heads on the street begging for change.
Just old bum DRUNKS.

Junkie alco-trash

It's civic to follow the laws of your country if they aren't imoral. Thus, it is moral to follow the law, and it is expected from an upstanding member of society - even if you don't agree with it.
And no, alcoholics aren't more degenerate, they are the same. Stop trying to justify a mistake on another mistake.

Some of us drink some of us smoke. Some of us are moderate and some have no self control.

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Alcohol is for degenerates.
>6: promote excessive use of alcohol

Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxism.

You're a Sup Forums loser. Who cares if you cringe at something.
You're probably cringy as fuck to look at.
Probably cant even communicate with real people.
STFU autist.

Alcoholics are more degenerate
By your logic, in canada, fucking a dog is moral because it's legal.

Okay dog fucker.

King is also an alcoholic

After 15 years of smoking hashish every single day I finally quit smoking it.

Now I eat it.

I also quit alcohol and tobacco and other drugs.

Only do LSD once a year or so....

This stoners vs drunks nonsense is bullshit. People react differently to different stimuli. I know drunks who are impossible to be around and stoners who are absolute pieces of shit. And vice versa.

>Go downtown to any bar district on any weekend.
>Your imagined how people act when drunk VS reality
>I go with reality.

I say again, citation needed. I'm talking actual statistics instead of cherrypicking.

>You're on Sup Forums, defending alcohol with insults.

You've been doing the same thing this entire thread only attacking alcohol with insults.
Basically from your previous post it's pretty obvious what your deal is. You used to be a spineless beta faggot who had no self control and deluded yourself into thinking that avoiding alcohol altogether was the solution to your problem. That's why you attack alcohol so viciously as you're afraid that any concession, any admission that alcohol has its good perks will lead you to cave and go back to it. You're projecting your insecurities massively and it shows.

Essentially you're a pussy who's only able to maintain his facade of control by cutting himself off from something entirely instead of resisting it through his own willpower. You're a pussy. You live like a pussy, you argue like a pussy and you even type like a pussy. You're just another victim of slave morality. I feel bad for you.

Doesn't matter.
These faggots want to be all
>weed is degenerate cause reasons
Well you might as well not be a fucking hypocrite and call out real degeneracy which is alcohol.

1 beer = 1 joint = degenerate loser addict.
Plain and simple.

You can't act like leftards cause you like to drink.

You typed all that? I didn't read it.
You refuse to acknowledge reality. You want some stats or graph on the computer as "proof"
Okay retard.
The drunk pissing on the wall downtown isn't proof.
The girl passed out in puke isn't proof.
Nothing is proof until you get a weblink.

E-tard.
Electronic retard. You're one of them.

You're also a junkie faggot loser with less chance at life than a stoner.
Deal with it junkie.

I can see how angry you are. Junkies always get mad.

>Reads post
>I-I didn't read it

Alright buddy stay mad. It's funny really.

Degeneracy is being a piece of shit who can't let other people have their fun.

My parents usually like gather a few friends in the weekend, drink a couple of bottles of wine and tell a few jokes and have a laugh. They're not degenerate at all. They work, they pay taxes, they contribute to the community.

I hate pieces of shit who defend pot by shitting all over alcohol. You suck.

Here's 100s of "cherry picked" examples of people over indulging.

google.ca/search?q=people passed out drunk&rlz=1C1AOHY_en-GBCA735CA735&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_oeHHo9vSAhXl4IMKHVLaDBEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1862&bih=969

What do you expect?

I'm sorry, my mistake. What am I doing, really? Expecting basic logic and decency from a leaf shitposter? Well, since I'm this deep in it, better end the job.

>By your logic, in canada, fucking a dog is moral because it's legal.
There are several misconceptions in this one sentence. Let's start from the most basic ones:

>If it's legal it has to be done
This idea that doing something that is allowed is following the law is wrong. Despite how we usually speak, and some politicians may subvert it, the law doesn't allow things, it prohibits. Following the law is doing things according to the law (for example, doing something that can only be done in that way according to the legislation), or avoiding something that has been prohibited.
Doing something that isn't banned is simply making use of your personal freedom. In short, your action doesn't exist for the law.

>If it's the law, it is moral
Wrong. If you read my post with enough care you would find this sentence:
>It's civic to follow the laws of your country if they aren't imoral
The "if they aren't imoral" part implies that there are, or can be created, imoral laws. Thus, a country's law isn't necessarily tied to morality.

>If the law doesn't prohibit it, it must be moral
Wrong. In many places adultery isn't a crime, yet it is far from moral. Since morality isn't tied to the legislation, there can be imoral actions that can be done freely. It is your choice to do or not do them.

Now, to finish it:
No, by my logic it isn't moral to fuck a dog in Canada. If it's legal you're free to do it, but the moral value of the act still persists. If you still can't follow, let me dumb it down for you:
>Fucking a dog, using weed, drinking alcohol is imoral. It doesn't matter the law of the country.
>Doing something against the law, if the law itself isn't imoral, is also imoral.
>Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should.
>Doing something imoral, while it being against a law, is even worse.

>Trying to take away my culture
Thats not very nice prick

google.ca/search?q=people passed out drunk&rlz=1C1AOHY_en-GBCA735CA735&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj_oeHHo9vSAhXl4IMKHVLaDBEQ_AUICCgB&biw=1862&bih=969

Here's 100s of pics of "not degenerate" behavior.
Did you tear up writing that??
>wah my parents! they work hard!
Who cares?
They're degenerates for drinking.

Having one beer doesn't make you drunk, and even if weed someday became just as fancy as cigars it still wouldn't hold a candle to alcohol as a tasting hobby.

Peoples grandmas who haven't been drunk in 40 years regularly have a glass of wine, humans are evolved to drink alcohol and have 40x the tolerance of other animals, the fact that many young people and a minority of degenerates have problems with it is only the dark side to what is mostly a good thing.

There are plenty of theories that are being looked at in anthropology that alchohol lead to the development of advanced cultures in prehistory, one theory even places alchohol production at Göbekli Tepe, which predates all agriculture.

This is pretty true though, the most degenerate people i've seen didnt need anything to be degenerate

I can't help but smile when I think of how impotent your rage is.

There's nothing you can do about people having fun other than rage about it on the internet.

Sad. Pathetic. But laughable.

Here's 100s of pics of "not degenerates"

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Can you link me 100s of pics of stoners acting like this?
If you can, I will agree they are more degenerate than alcohol users.

You're a total moron so I didn't bother reading what you wrote.
(you) said "alcoholics are not degenerate"
Dismissed.

>reaction pic
>insults
>superior somehow

Translated
Ass blasted loser got BTFO-d so hard, all he can do is act like a 10 year old faggot.

stoners should kill themselves desu

Is this what leafs are using as b8 these days?
Megafail. All weed users are cut and paste the same person, and can't go a fucking hour without smoking, where as almost every adult on earth drinks in moderation.

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>this mad

If you drink alcohol, you're a degenerate who is worse than a stoner.
Done discussion.

You can't dance around all the negatives of alcohol cause of some theories and because you like it.

that is cute and savage, just like a dog

Sick comeback leaf. The rake is coming. Better go blaze up while you can, bruh.

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Alco-cuck junkies be mad.

What's the matter degenerate??

>pic related, the night mommy made (you). Don't worry, mommy can't remember his name either. LOL XXXDDD Not degenerate. Just having fun.

I agree, if only one gets to be illegal, it should be alcohol.

Smoking an entire joint is not the equivalent of drinking one or two beers. Stoners do the equivalent of getting shit-faced every single they indulge, there is no such thing as a stoner who smokes pot for the taste.

Stoners are way more degenerate.

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Fuck off shareblue

>You're a total moron so I didn't bother reading what you wrote.
I know it's bait but fuck it.

>(you) said "alcoholics are not degenerate"
No, I didn't. In fact, ctrl+f that sentence and the only result for it was your post.
What I said was that alcoholics and stoners are equally degenerate.

>Can you link me 100s of pics of stoners acting like this?
The way people act when abuse it isn't the only reason for why it is imoral. Tabbaco doesn't cause such behaviour and it's also imoral.

>And then the next morning mommy woke up with (you). What a miracle.

I agree with you dude, and English isn't you're first language I assume, but shit. Please use spellcheck.

You need to make real arguments. Not made up ones.
Science will tell you alcohol and marijuana effect the human body very differently.
Science is smarter than you.

> Your mom before she had you.