Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Ryder Bennett
>tfw before being red pilled about how capitalism is the chains jews use to lock us up I used to hate communism
Come home white man. Capitalism is a jewish trick
Lucas Ward
Sage
Anthony Sanders
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Nathan Scott
Not an argument.
Eli Hill
Im not a commie but stop posting this shitty reddit screencap as 'proof' that everyone with a different opinion is a reddit nerd who is trying to take over pol.
Blake Edwards
Why do communists constantly try to destroy the nuclear family.
Also name a single time Marxist-Leninism didn't involve massive killings
Evan Martinez
There were no killings under Communism. It is all lies, capitalism is the ultimate killing machine
Evan Price
>Why do communists constantly try to destroy the nuclear family.
they dont
John Cook
Leninism and marxism always leads to stalinism and maoism. Complete shyte tier ideological garbage
Justin Martinez
>how many died under Communism? 100,000,000
>how many died under Capitalism? 200,000,000+
>how many died under Nazism? (((~12,000,000))) including muh 6 million. And the winner is....
Jace Martinez
I wad born and raised in a Communist country. Anyone who can't understand why this is a bad idea by watching from the side, deserves to be shipped to one of those countries and sentenced to live there forever.
Anthony Wright
Just let them live in their utopian fantasy world. Hell, they may see their vision come into fruition right before the greed of their leaders drags them into oblivion.
Communism will only work if you control the minds and bodies of every individual of the state.
I'm cool with commies making there own little communes provided:
1. No one is forced to join 2. They Don't harm other people or their property 3. when it inevitably leads to their own misery they should apologise and advocate against others doing the same
Nathaniel Scott
I watched this last week.
Proof Third Worldism is anti-Marxist cancer.
Jordan Baker
All the commies are gone it seems, that or they've shut the fuck up because they were BTFO.
Landon Foster
sorry, my english is not good enough to understand the article, can you please explain shortly what it says?
Jackson Foster
Go find another hole to die in, rat bastards; this one is ours
Ayden Howard
Hi comrades
Charles Parker
Are we going to accept than commie generals are just slide threads? There's no way discussing communism is relevant political discussion
Henry Hill
why isnt it? because you said so?
Dylan Evans
Look at this lumpenprole
Jaxon Evans
go back.
Charles Hernandez
Communism is a revolutionary meme creates by the capitalist elites to impose regime change on nations that won't bend to their will.
>google "communist revolution of 1917"
Remember that the czar and his whole family was murdered by these revolutionaries during that time period.
Trotsky received 20,000,000 in gold from Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb & co.
Connor Gonzalez
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Nathaniel White
>Yeah, but it wasn't real communism/socialism though.
Logan Evans
TL;DR Mark and Engals believed that the nuclear family existed because of capitalism and was part of the culture which supported capitalism
essentially: Man works for capitalists and wife does domestic stuff to support the man as well as raising children to be future workers.
this belief is why commies want to dismantle the nuclear family and replace it with commune living.
Hope that explains it for you.
Ayden Morgan
I'm not a commie-cuck, but do you have a source?
John Sanders
>the czar and his whole family was murdered by these revolutionaries during that time period
and no value was lost
and if you dont remember, the tzar was removed from power by his officers and not the communists
Juan Price
Communism creates a totalitarianism environment along with a dictator. Anyone who thinks communism will dissolve power and give it back to people are retarded, they must not be aware of things like: Real life, natural corruption in man, Cultures, the longevity of capitalism(potentially infinite lifespan while drastically increasing the gap between rulers and slaves.)
Lincoln Adams
but thats actually not true
I read Engels and he did not oppose nuclear family, he opposed the borgouise family - the helplessness of the workers whose wives worked as prostitutes to feed the family, the capitalist moral which turned nuclear family into a new savagery when everybody cheats their spouses, uses prostitutes and presses on the powerless proletarians to get access to their wives and daughters
I cant think of more moral and pro-family thing to exist.
Jace Scott
Did you learn nothing from yesterday's thread? No one likes you, go away
That doesn't change the fact that after the Congress of Vienna in 1814-15, when the czar refused to join in The League of Nations, Nathan Rothschild vowed to remove the czar from power and kill every heir to the throne.
He accomplished that on around 1917 with the communist revolution.
Chase James
now I will ask for sources, because it looks like another conspiracy theory
Colton Williams
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Josiah Perez
I'm sad to see that westerners haven't learned from our mistakes and weaknesses and still believe in this fake ideology.
Jayden Clark
Yes, and here is china after the first SEZs were established in 1978 + other free market reforms
Thomas Williams
Hi comrade
Evan Taylor
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Gavin Cox
The Nameless War Written by: Archibald Maule Ramsay Pg 23. Titled " Russian Revolution "
He was thrown in prison for that book btw. I may be able to find you a copy if you're unable to find one.
I'll have to listen to it again to give you a time to start at. Its a good read and he provides plenty of documentary evidence to support his statements.
Thanks bro.
Evan Fisher
China is communist, try again.
Communism created most of your country infrastructure; you would be living in caves if it was not for the Soyuz legacy.
Ryan Rogers
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Matthew Long
From what I've read of his work he very much wanted to transition to commune based living rather than families. To Engals families acted individualistically from other families in a community putting their interests before the good of the collective.
Communist or not its economy clearly improved after it became more free market. That is a fact.
Matthew Jackson
For the source "Illuminati and the CFR" It's talked about twice within the first 40 minutes and talked about within thr first 5 minutes.
Joseph Hernandez
commune doesnt make the family disappear
russian peasants lived in a commune-type way - obschina but nobody says they did not have families
Brandon Kelly
Capitalists created Communism to remotely impose regime change via revolution.
Joshua Jackson
of course you have a biological family but the structure of commune living is different to a nuclear family.
Aiden Sullivan
You deserve to be shot, subhuman. No wait, you deserve a slow and painful death - like every commie subhuman. S. age
Justin Anderson
well, yes
but first of all it has nothing to do with communism
this way of living was one of the pillars of Russian Empire - the communal form of village created what is called Sobornost'
its just the regional special things, something that makes Russia different from Europe
Kevin Hernandez
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Samuel Morgan
>100 million indigenous americans exterminated? Except 100 million was the highest estimates for indigenous americans ALIVE in americas >15 million slaves? Except 15 million slaves was the highest estimate of slaves ALIVE in the salve trade. >Holocaust? It was because of private property. >The entirety of WW1? Capitalism. >Japan murdering some chinese chinks? Obviously it was because of individualism Blaming all historical events in a spam of a MILLENNIUM almost gets you to a smaller death count than communism, so you have to add 100 million indigenous people out of your ass, the holocaust, and the entirety of WWI to the list.
Xavier Watson
>China is communist, try again.
But it's largely a free market economy. It brought itself out of massive poverty due to privatizing most sectors.
Alexander Kelly
IGNORE ALL COMMIE THREADS >saged and hidden
Nathaniel Perry
LET'S NOT FORGET THE HOLODOMOR
Nolan Anderson
You are mentally ill. I already said this in the previous thread. Your brain resets at every thread. That's because your brain is shut to new information whenever your beliefs are questioned. You are just a pathetic little pile of cognitive dissonance.
I already explained to you why using China as a good example of communism is supremely dumb. Except you keep on mentioning it at every new thread. Can you explain to me what is your thoughts on China? Why do you think that China, a country poorer than almost any flag in this thread, a country that is slowly backpedaling its commie policies, is somehow a good example of how communism can be successful?
Colton Kelly
This, so much.
It's not just him though. Several people in this thread do that. They're utopian dreamers.
We aren't immune sadly. I have brought up the fact that the Nazi party was funded by the same internationalist bankers the Communists revolutionaries were and it triggers everyone.
Also the hatred of jews came from Marx's book "AWorld Without Jews"
Gabriel Cox
>numbahs go up so is gud
Any retard could achieve economic growth in that period - converting serfs into industrial workers and ramping up natural resources exploitation.
But only the Soviet retard could end up with an unworkable economy at the end. The following, massive depression is the result of socialism too.
The real turning point was the stagnation in the late 70s. A capitalist economy wouldn't even flinch at that, but when basic goods are in constant deficit, even a slight slowdown is death. That's why Perestroika happened - it wasn't a choice on a whim.
Funny how commies look at this brutal economic rollercoaster and see only prosperity, while whining about the "instability" of capitalism.
David Campbell
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Henry Sanders
>gibsmedat: the ideology
Joshua Baker
What a cute commie. Is there porn of her?
Connor Martinez
>One day, everyone will wake up, unite under one flag, and destroy the New World Order before it swallows the rest of humanity into it's one world government.
>I just hope we can prevent WWIII from happening. WWIII will be the final large step towards that goal.
Owen Gutierrez
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Josiah Cooper
It's sad when the Communists in this thread are loli posting sperglord NEETS. Go back to /leftypol/
Cooper Watson
>unironically this depraved
Landon Diaz
I like communism but I think comrades should receive a proportional reward for labor- is there any way we could install a system where labor over time was represented and is tradable- let's use a system of tokens. Then let's set up a communist institution that regulates the value, supply, and distribution of these tokens, that was comrades who work hard can be rewarded and those who avoid labor are driven to work.
Blake Powell
Let's face it. Communism is only good to provide cheap whores willing do to anything for borsch.
Ayden Wright
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James Hernandez
Fucking KEK'd
Kayden Johnson
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Mason Campbell
Oh look another Communism slide thread. I love these. Especially all the discussion!
Zachary Murphy
Daily reminder that Communism has and always will fail.
Jonathan Williams
Kys plebbit commie.
Saged
Austin Hernandez
Serious question? How would you propose to enforce communism when productive people feel like their carrying liberal arts students? Do you kill the "Dead" weight or kill those protesting?
Gavin Murphy
This is why communism needs to come from global socialism. When people ask about my politics I tell them I believe in the marxist theory of economic progression. Capitalism develops a trade market, global capitalism levels the human playing field (which we're seeing now, third world Labour's lifestyle is improving and first world Labour is suffering), national socialism establishes a system of government control over the national market, global socialism establishes a central government controlled global market and global communism will abolish the national government and establish a society based on contribution to the market instead of one based on ownership.
