Destiny, guy who debated jon tron, is continuing his onslaught of sjw propaganda GET IN HERE

>debates one guy about politics
>thinks he's the shit all of a sudden

God I hate this pseudo inellectual faggot..

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HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

Bump

fuck off with your e-celeb garbage, retarded reddit shit

This mother fucker is talking about ghost busters and trying to defend the feminazi version of the movie.. Disgusting.

get shot up french fry.

>giving him views
why

Retarded piece of shit.

I can't stand this cunt

the guys that is trying to debate destiny is such a mongoloid it's making that cuck sound actually good

wow I wonder what it could possibly fucking mean when everyone who debates to him loses and comes of looking like an absolute sperg in the process

nakedape shit on him, go support his video

I'd shred this fucker desticuck in a debate, get me on this shit.

bump

that most are indeed spergs, like the majority of Sup Forums? absolutely.
doesn't mean that destiny's points are good.

>IMMIGRANTS INCREASE ECONOMY
>BIGGER ECONOMY IS ALWAYS GOOD

the mong could've asked:
>what are the drawbacks of this?
>loss of familiarity and values, forced cultural shift, social pressure?
>are western economies actually sustainable?
>do we need all this shallow shit?
>are the money even put in the right things to really improve humanity?

no, he just babbled some shit and wanted to cut the connection. SJWs WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG!

this is a rhetorical debate, based on people clapping on twitch and quick answers, not actual arguments.

>t. Jontron
>t. Naked Ape
what point is he specifically wrong about

Im sick of all the alt-light cuckservs he keeps bringing on. I want to hear him debate someone like Duke who is an unabashed white nationalist and articulate.

Please stop giving this faggot attention.
It's obvious he's a masochist lookin' for another licking.
He just uses cheap debate tactics to drown out the opposition, then flipflops on stances.
Rule 7 this shit.

WHY WON"T HE DEBATE STYX !

when he brings somebody who actually knows their shit on, it's literally just a history lesson. this guy knows next to nothing about anything outside of starcraft.

'Communism is just a social thing.'
'California is the worlds 5th largest economy because Mexicans'

it's just goons shilling him here non-stop

Jontron genuinely infuriated me, he was dropping redpills without the evidence to back them up, making them look false.

>BIGGER ECONOMY IS ALWAYS GOOD
Except thats only one of the benefits he listed, lower costs of labour, cheaper goods, increasing specialisation etc. are all other benefits of low skilled migration

on the actual economic points you brought up

>are western economies actually sustainable?
Not if we don't take in immigrants. If countries were to begin to start favouring the UKIPs, Trumps, One nations, Le Pens etc. we'd end up in the same economic hole as Japan

>do we need all this shallow shit?
You don't need to have higher standards of living no but its retarded to turn down the offer

He said it was an 'economic thing'. Also yeah thats literally exactly what it is.

>'California is the worlds 5th largest economy because Mexicans'
He didn't say that he was making the point that given the immigrant population of Mexico it'd be a near-miracle that they have anything resembling a successful economy if Mexicans were a drain on the system.

ry dawson was just ry teaching history to destiny, while destiny said "i'll have to look that up" every now and then

>giving this fuckhead viewers

You're part of the problem. You deserve a perma ban for this eceleb garbage

>lower costs of labour, cheaper goods, increasing specialisation
those are all advantages that only make the economy bigger. there is no other advantage here. familiarity? nope. social cohesion? nope. cultural enrichment? we all wished. instead we got ghettos and cultural isolation.

>Not if we don't take in immigrants
then let them go down. population goes down, next generation starts again with more opportunities and more space. plus we're trying to sustain an economy based on consumerism, useless luxury and spoiled comfort. we're in a golden cage that keeps falling apart and we need to keep repairing it. endless growth is tumoral. both economical and population wise.

>You don't need to have higher standards of living no but its retarded to turn down the offer
we're spoiled, not living high standards.

>yeah thats literally exactly what it is.
total upheaval of society is just a 'economic thing', I guess fascism was just an economic thing as well.

>Mexicans were a drain on the system.
Mexicans aren't a drain on the system, however the argument is that cheap labour has stopped the minimum wage to grow alongside the economic.

>>are western economies actually sustainable?
but they are through means of protectionism.

>higher standards of living
HDI in Aussieland is the second highest in the world, and is hard to immigrate if you are unskilled.

white people are joke
you deserve your future brown nations

>stop giving people with opposing opinions attention

t. someone under america's protection.

Stop giving this faggot free publicity

He's just quoting dumb shit from WSJ/Politico/other cancer, why the fuck you guys even give him attention?

let me know when he has molymeme on otherwise he's just pushing propaganda to his viewers

I asked to go onto his stream and sperg at him but I'm such a useless nobody he won't reply

>beaners make the country stable and raise our standard of living

>destiny doesn't come out of debates looking like an absolute sperg
you must have missed nakedape and mistermetokur

>God I hate this pseudo inellectual faggot..
No, you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be creating this slide thread. Get the fuck out of Sup Forums and stop shilling your dumb gaming channel, you cuck.
>implying I bumped this thread

>nakedape
>shut up shut up
>mistermetokur
>le smug laugh
are you kidding

it's pretty fucking obvious when chat (and destiny) stops responding to ideas and resorts to ridicule

typical shitlib argumentation

low energy my dude

>there is no other advantage here
Yeah higher standards of living ofc. People can afford to live in nicer houses, drive nicer cars and send their kids to nicer schools because all these things are made monumentally cheaper by increase in labour supply.

>population goes down, next generation starts again with more opportunities and more space
If the population goes down demand decreases and thus there are far less jobs opportunities and everything becomes a fuckton more expensive

>plus we're trying to sustain an economy based on consumerism, useless luxury and spoiled comfort. we're in a golden cage that keeps falling apart and we need to keep repairing it
The shit I'm talking about isn't just stuff like new golf clubs, or a new TV or more jewellery etc. I'm talking about stuff that really improves the lives of your average person like better educations, access to the internet and such

>we're spoiled, not living high standards.
so you don't want higher living standards?

To be honest i think he asked a guy if he thought the movie was trying to push feminist ideas to hard and he answered that he can only recall a few occasions. Also they agreed that the producer of the film said some stupid things.

>total upheaval of society is just a 'economic thing'
Yeah communism advocates for a stateless, moneyless, classless society with worker owned means of production. Its an economic theory

>I guess fascism was just an economic thing as well
There's more to fascism than just its economic system. Facism also advocates for an authoritarian coercive state.

>however the argument is that cheap labour has stopped the minimum wage to grow alongside the economic
Highly doubt it, there was mass Mexican immigration well before disparity in wages and productivity

>but they are through means of protectionism.
Holy shit no. 80% of the reason this discussion can even be had by two middle class people on opposite sides of the world is because of cheap electronics sourced via free trade see >HDI in Aussieland is the second highest in the world, and is hard to immigrate if you are unskilled.
And we suffer greatly for it. Literally nothing is cheap in Australia and that could almost certainly be remedied by cheaper labour. Professional industries where we have accepted immigrants (e.g. 54% foreign born medical practitioners) are cheaper relative to much of the world and largely contribute to our high HDI

>le
Holy shit, you fucking redditor. I saw the chat during their debate, what a bunch of cocksucking fanboys. Destiny is extremely arrogant and smuggly laughs at people he's arguing against all the time. Yet the chat just yells HE'S RETARDED OMG LUL DESTINY JUST CUT OFF THE STREAM AAAAAAAAAH at every sentence someone else other than your gay little fuckboy manages to put together. You people are cult-ish. Lay off his dick, faggot.

>God I hate this pseudo inellectual faggot..
>give him views, everyone
fuck off, destiny

go back 2 reddit, faggot

please stop gallopying on your steeds to other points, we're discussing his representation of arguments here
if you pointed out Dawson or Shkreli instead of Ape or Metokur, you would have an argument; Destiny is flawed in that he mirrors the attitude of his opponents--both Ape and Metokur had poor attitudes in their debates

be as calm as Dawson and Shkreli and you will be happy

I dont understand how this guy has so many fans. That being said there's no reason for us to keep giving him attention. Unless he relevant to a situation why get worked up about it? This feel like when Russell Brand was being shield (for and against) 24/7 on Sup Forums it was annoying and did nothing.

The same thing happened when he talked to Martin Shkreli. Shkreli also called him a massive faggot on his own stream when they were done.

wtf your right

Haven't seen the MM one but I don't recall NA once bringing up any actual point of substance. His entire contribution to the debate was just doing the verbal equivalent of trying to >inb4 Destiny before he could explain how retarded he was. Watch NA video, he couldn't argue on substance so he shifted the focus to Destiny himself

That was literally the entire response video made by NA. Actually give me something he was wrong about.

Did you get the mexican one from the nakedape video? You can disagree with him but at least don't misrepresent his point. He made the point that if minorities were ruining economies that hard why is California still one of the biggest economies despite employing a lot of minorities or something like that. You could still make the argument that it would be even better without mexicans i guess.

Cali gets alot of federal $$$

>Yeah higher standards of living ofc. People can afford to live in nicer houses, drive nicer cars and send their kids to nicer schools because all these things are made monumentally cheaper by increase in labour supply.

so basically raise the standards of living (cars? bruh) on the backs of a ultracheap, near-slavery, labour? not even just inside our own countries, but international slavery. yeah, we can all afford cool looking shit at primark while chinese slaves sew distress messages in the pockets.

>The shit I'm talking about isn't just stuff like new golf clubs, or a new TV or more jewellery etc. I'm talking about stuff that really improves the lives of your average person like better educations, access to the internet and such
how much of the public and private spending goes in education, research, medicine, stem etc.? how much of it goes to maintain these impossible to keep higher standards we've been born into since day 0?

>so you don't want higher living standards?
i'd exchange these "higher standards" for more freedom any day.

>we're discussing his representation of arguments here
No we're not you goal-posting moving hypocrite. In fact, you're doing the exact same thing as your little fuccboy destiny does. You claimed in the post I responded to that his adversaries did poorly in the debate because of a few irrelevant things the retarded people on the chat picked up and clinged to to mock them out of spite. You had no argument to begin with, why would I discuss the finer points of their debate objectively when yo're clearly a fanboy?

Go back to twitch to worship your gamer e-celebs, you mindless drone.

Sauce?

He thinks he wins the debates, and acts like a heavyweight lol.
he just shills continuously in a really shilly way

>suddenly his stream is spammed here every day
Really activates the almonds.

I just tried to clarify on his points i'm not defending it. I know fuckall about the USA's economy,
You should try with

here it is friend

>a starcraft player brings down the alt-right
loving every laugh

This is the thing. This queer seems to think Metokur or Nakedape did poorly when debating him because of their attitudes, when in truth, especially with Metokur, their attitudes were pretty similar. His fanboys like to pretend that Destiny is like the Sam Harris of twitch, but in reality even blowhards like IA are more level-headed than he is.

You guys should watch the Martin Skhreli debate, 2 minutes into the call Destiny uses the word "autism" as a word for stupid, Martin calls him out on it, then they proceed to discuss autism and other illnesses, where Destiny thinks he knows more than Martin.

"Slow down there buddy"

It was hilarious

What happend to the push for him to debate molymeme?

>Its an economic theory
being stateless and classless is doing just about the economic especially when your changing social and culture foundations of society.

>There's more to fascism than just its economic system.
Same as communism.

>Mass Mexican immigration well before disparity in wages and productivity
Yes, but the economic situation has changed. The United States economy (for it's size) is growing relatively slowly, it's often cheaper to automate industrial process then hiring workers as many industrial process being moved china. The economy situation has changed so should the immigration policy.

>80% of the reason this discussion can even be had by two middle class people on opposite sides of the world is because of cheap electronics
Most of which is mass produced in china, and it is cheap to the exploitation of the Chinese worker and the cost of western industries.

>nothing is cheap in Australia and that could almost certainly be remedied by cheaper labour.
Many that's something to do with the massively high minimum wage, not the lack of immigrants.

that was a beautiful example of the predatory instincts of sociopaths; you could see it in his eyes right as he said it
definitely became a shkreli fanboy after that

Go back to your stream Destiny

Isn't this guy a pedophile?

He was literally who until two days ago and now the most salient thing I know about him through Jewtube research is that he almost fucked a 15 year old once and he's famous from playing Korean chess.

So is this guy's trick that he debates people that aren't openly 14/88 so he can get them in a position where they're forced to either lose or speak truths that get them black-listed?

> on the backs of a ultracheap, near-slavery, labour?
I mean there's a minimum wage

>yeah, we can all afford cool looking shit at primark while chinese slaves sew distress messages in the pockets.
I used to think like this but do you seriously think that China would be better off now if not for trade with western countries? You really think that these people would be better off if we just didn't buy their products whatsoever? I'm all for workers rights but the best has to be made out of a bad situation.

>how much of the public and private spending goes in education, research, medicine, stem etc.?
A lot but beside the point. I'm not talking about new technologies I'm talking about how immigration increases the availability of current technologies so that even the poorest can have excellent living standards comparatively

>i'd exchange these "higher standards" for more freedom any day.
How exactly do you have less freedom if you have more immigrants?

And also gives a lot of federal $$$

You retards are incredibly cringing fuck off with this cringe

I wouldn't really call it a trick. It's the inevitable outcome of these retards debating on Jewtube like anyone actually cares.

Don't forget
"There are no riots in Sweden"

ban this cuck, twitch is for gaming.

The retards following this shit should kill themselves. You are shitting up Sup Forums with this fucking trash. debates, e celebs what a load of fuckin shit

>we're discussing his representation
>both Ape and Metokur had poor attitudes
>be as calm as Dawson and Shkreli
so you're saying it is in fact only about presentation to you lmao

nakedape
>tax the rich to give it back to all the poor people who we just displaced with mass migration
>CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING I CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU
>YOU'RE NOT EQUIPPED FOR THIS DISCUSSION
>I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH SOMEONE WHO'S GOING "ALL TAXES ARE EVIL"
>I didn't say that, I said they're distortionary
>yep I understand "all taxes are bad" can we just move on to the next thing

metokur
>you're really going to hire the person with the best sob story over the guy who's most qualified?
>show me where on the resume you can put your sob story
>you're going to run sorties on the cartel

I listened to that debate. Destiny is retarded. Naked Ape might be too, it's hard to tell how much he's trolling and how informed he actually is, but either way he was right to call Destiny out on his "tactics". The guy acts like a reddit atheists, pretending to by hyper intellectual, but in reality he doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about and can't form a cohesive argument. "jerking yourself off in front of your audience" pretty much sums it up.

Anyways, Naked Ape's point in that wasn't that minorities were ruining the economy. He specifically said that yes, you're going to have a net gain to the economy by importing cheap labor, the question is what kind of an economy you have, even though it is larger. Having a lower class of immigrants that don't have full rights working for peanuts flatlines wages and moves the economy towards the direction of India. More people working for less money isn't necessarily a good thing for the country.

I'll stop after this one but this is pretty annoying.
Again his argument was that Sweden wasn't falling apart. He didn't say that there weren't riots or that they didn't have any problems.
I'll say it again. Disagree with him but at least disagree with what he said and not with what he didn't say.

Stop making these threads Destiny.

>representation
>looking like absolute sperg

Holy shit, he completely destroyed this guy that it was painful to listen

>Did you get the mexican one from the nakedape video?
No, I haven't watched it. I got it from the Jontron where he said it. He said California's economy is the fifth largest in the world therefore mass Mexican migration can't be bad.

It largely comes from, High Technology sectors, Hollywood and International trade (although this is steadily shrinking) and tourism.

shoo shoo little shitlib

I am scoffing at you I simply cannot even entertain your ideas you absolute sperg

permabanned already

i voted for trump though

Sweden IS falling apart. The cops in Sweden tell the women don't go outside at night or you will be raped. If that is not "falling apart" I don't know what is.

Naked Ape and Internet Aristocrat already ripped this Destiny guy a new asshole so it's like whatever at this point

>ONE CUBAN MANLET IS SINGLE HANDEDLY DESTROYING THE AUTRIGHT MOVEMENT BY SHOWING WHAT A BUNCH OF PUSSY ASS FAGGOT RETARDS YOU ALL ARE

LMAO YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP!!!

weird you gave trump a pass for sperging out but having solid points, but not anyone in these debates. are you sure you don't just enjoy political drama?

I find it retarded when someone is arguing the opposite opinion of the majority without ANY facts or statistics to back up your claim here is an example
>analysis indicates that immigration lowers the wage of competing workers: a 10 percent increase in supply reduces wages by 3 to 4 percent.
academic.oup.com/qje/article-abstract/118/4/1335/1925108/The-Labor-Demand-Curve-is-Downward-Sloping

I find it hard to believe you wouldn't find destiny also a sperg. His debate with Metokur was bizarre, and showed how much of an sjw that faggot really is. Didn't he cry after that debate?

>being stateless and classless is doing just about the economic especially when your changing social and culture foundations of society
Alright fine then, to the degree that society and economics are inexorably linked then yes communism also involves culture and society much like capitalism

>it's often cheaper to automate industrial process then hiring workers as many industrial process being moved china. The economy situation has changed so should the immigration policy
There are still literally hundreds of low skilled jobs that are years off from being automated (construction, landscaping, food service etc.) that can still benefit greatly from increased labour supply. Besides what you said is largely an argument for immigration, free trade with china is good but even better is being able to produce said goods yourself and have that money be invested back in the country.

> and it is cheap to the exploitation of the Chinese worker and the cost of western industries
its either that or they don't get payed at all, if your low-skilled then your always going to have a shit job and if your government is corrupt then its going to be even worse

>Many that's something to do with the massively high minimum wage, not the lack of immigrants
lmfao no. Tradesmen have ridiculous wages, easily remedied by immigration. We don't even have the highest PPP minimum wage

metokur acted smug --> destiny becomes a sperg
ape was a sperg --> destiny becomes a sperg
dawson acted calmly --> destiny doesn't turn into a sperg
shkreli acted calmly --> doesn't doesn't turn into a sperg

it's hard to listen to any spergs, no matter the content, and definitely makes me unlikely to agree with anything said
the good thing about trump is that he had very few talking points

The whole fucking movie was a push for the feminist agenda, what the fuck are you talking about "it only happened in on a few occasions"?

kek

Yeah sure if you think that but then criticize him for downplaying Sweden's problem instead of saying "He says that there are no riots in Sweden"
And in his defense he said multiple times i think that he would like to focus on the USA since he 's not knowledgeable about European countries enough to talk about them in depth(although you can make the argument that some of these events are connected and can't be discussed separately i guess, but then again address that issue then).
I just really don't like it when people misrepresent each other's points since it results in people talking over each other's head.

I'm sorry if i wasn't being clear i'm not a native speaker. It wasn't my opinion. I was talking about the guy he was debating i thought you got it from there.

>israel $4.88
they're on par with muslim shit holes lel.

So he's a smug sperg and can't stand people acting smuggly? I guess he's just awful at banter then. He should give up debating altogether if he's that weak. I mean his plataform is twitch not Yale University and he's not a professor. If he's debating inflamatory youtube e-celebs on fucking TWITCH he should have thicker skin or fuck off.

oops, wrong post. Meant to quote (you)

>SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

that's only because dawson and shkreli could present so much new information that none of destiny's sperging tactics would work and he ends up getting lectured. he can't berate you by talking around your points if he isn't familiar with them. in metokur's case, destiny was backpeddling the whole time and trying to figure out his own argument. in ape's case, destiny just dismissed ape entirely and hung up. lauren southern was throwing destiny around the ring as well because destiny's superficial knowledge doesn't fly when it's actually tested.

that's how shitlib argumentation works and that's why debates are debates and not dog and pony shows.