The Future of Automation

>The year is 2047.
>50% of the economy in the developed world no longer requires human input.
>You have been locked out of the upper class because you do not own the automated systems and there is no prospect of class mobility in the future.
>You use what capital you have to move the the countryside to live off the grid.
>This seem fine until the automation groups for automation use their leverage to ban independent land owners and compulsively acquire all assets.
>What do?

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I should add.
>pressures from UBI advocates say that independants are a burden on the nation because living 'off the grid' does not contribute (jealousy)
>automated lobby agrees and uses public support to legalise mandatory buyback of independent land 'for the good of the economy and UBI future'.

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Why would private land ownership be banned in any scenario? This is an autistic thread

If it gets in the way of profits.

It is in the interest of the voting masses who rely on UBI and do not like independent property owners who have what they don't have. They gain more from the promise that such resources will increase the automation which the state taxes for the gibs.

>after the automation system ruling class realise that the state is powerless to enforce the taxes they ignore them
>the masses, not without income riot and give the technocratic class a reason to use autobots directly against the people
>they kill off the masses with great efficiency
>the jews now reach a transhumanist future
>this is how it ends

Soon inferior human being posters will be eliminated and replaced

>What do?

Starve. Let the doctor in a smiley face mask inject you with a lethal dose of sedatives.

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We all know there's only one robot occupation that matters.

Fair enough.

Sounds like your system is fucking retarded. Automation is never going to be 50% of the economy. There will never be a UBI.

Have fun doing your shitty clerical job filing paperwork for regulatory.

>Automation is never going to be 50% of the economy

why the fuck is clergy on there

>implying AI doesn't shit post now

You haven't seen anything goyim

>TFW he doesn't realize robo-jesus will reign supreme

>Already live in the countryside
>I'm a programmer

AI won't be replacing developers in my lifetime.

>robots take our jobs
>immigration is up 150%
>too many people and no jobs and the numbers keep increasing
>white people flee to the barren states to live off the land or flee the country and cant pay fo dem programz
>???

where we go from there I dont know

Basically this desu senpai.

Although I'd surmise that for a leaky roof over your head and some soy bean paste they'll gladly let you work in place of the robots whenever they are down for maintenance.

>AI won't be replacing developers in my lifetime.
It has already started.
newscientist.com/article/mg21328554-900-ai-designs-its-own-video-game/

>the year is 2047
>I am an aircraft mechanic
>I literally can't get replaced by robot man
>retire at 65
>profit

Leave Earth.

Nice digits.

Bad news user.

youtube.com/watch?v=BGOUSvaQcBs

>Leave Earth.
With what resources?

The only way to avoid massive poverty and economic fallout from automation would be to use wealth generated by automation to support individuals displaced by automation, and use that system to start transitioning to a technologically supported post-capitalist economy.

Unfortunately, human greed is too deeply ingrained, and profits from automation are just going to get sucked up by individual owners. This will be disastrous for the majority of the population.

Shitty clickbait. Procedurally generated levels in video games have existed for decades and aren't even in the same league as writing code.

So Communism?
Fuck you Soros shill

As it stands, AI is probably in the stone age of what it will become, and it'll take a really long time to get better at it since it's a very young field of science.

Right now, AI does not think for itself in any way except for very specific circumstances which are currently considered to be very advanced. AIs are, in a word, dumb. They are currently less intelligent than dogs in their independent thought processes. This is not to be confused with instructed processes and basic shit; don't confuse speed with ability nor intelligence. Computers do things fast, that's their entire purpose; if they didn't, we wouldn't be using them.

The purpose of a computer is to do something faster and with fewer errors than a human. This usually involves specific instructions which the computer is physically incapable from deviating from. You tell the computer to open Steam, it does so; it doesn't think about whether that's the right thing to do or not, it just does it. That can be applied to AI as well. An AI (as it stands) does not think creatively. It does not think about right or wrong. It thinks in ones and zeroes.

'Yes/No' parameters leave literally no room for creative thought, and that is the basic framework for every computer in existence. You may make the programming much more complicated to make it seem as if it's not doing that, but all it's doing is going through a longer series of yeses and nos.

Until the fundamental way we program computers changes from ones and zeroes, AIs will simply eventually hit a wall and be a lot less exciting than you think they will be. They can self-improve, but that's limited to mathematics and programming that they are aware of. They cannot invent new concepts beyond combining old concepts together to form a "new" one. AIs pose no threat to humanity, and unfortunately, I doubt we will ever break the programming barrier which stands in the way of truly advanced AI. It would be useful.

At least I'll die free.

You mean like the USSR did?

>implying human technolgy uses are beyond the reach of heuristics, or cannot be procedually group sourced like wikipedia

Missing the escort service in the list

I for one salute our new robot overlords.

Have mercy of this fleshy one.

>clergy
>0%

ATHEISTS BTFO AGAIN LMAO

I didn't say they weren't, I said AI won't replace developers in my lifetime. Compilers already rewrite code to optimise it, I have extensions in my IDE for generating boilerplate code, it can be done on the small scale now and it will be done on a larger scale in the future and continue to make my job easier, I'm literally just saying:

>AI won't be replacing developers in my lifetime.

>white people adapt as we always have
>brown people lack intelligence and innovation to keep the robot army maintained
>white people take control of robot army, cleanse everyone darker than beige from the US and europe, then africa and middle east
>western society stabilizes without third world parasites leeching our resources
>threat of war from east asia kept in check by superior white technology as god intended
>humanity enters technological golden age, looks to conquer the stars

Ok, this narrow definition is correct. NIce.

Still doesn't mean your job will not become obsolete. Just saying.

How? Until they're doing everything from thinking up the ideas for programs down to writing them, my job will still exist. And when they're thinking for us, it's not developers that will be obsolete, but humans.

>Occupational Therapists

>low impact on HR

once the make a machine proper enough to scan you for autism, HR will be pointless

There will no longer be a need for work, and we will truly live free lives
Jews will die because nobody has any money to pay for stuff because robots took all the jobs, the rest will write itself, i don't think they will just give free shit to everyone but it has to happen eventually

All of what you said is irrelevant for at least 70% of the work that humans do.

>Missing the point this much

Not everyone can be an occupational therapist.

I'd become a motorcycle riding vagabond, my eclectic journeys serving as a metaphor for man's struggle to find his place in a capricious and uncaring universe

Or to cut down on worthless people. But no, you just want more gibs.

That's like saying people cannot edit wikipedia unless they have a PhD in networking. The infrastructure is all that is needed. And the only reason why microshit or others haven't gone down this road is profit.

What anime is this?

Here. Let me blow all your minds...

Google the Qin Dynasty.

lmgtfy.com/?q=qin dynasty

Not fifty years ago that was a full days work for a full team of research scholars and museum curators.

A computer did it in mere milliseconds.

40,000 google searches every second.
If just 10% of those are to access the human knowledge base for scholarly research, let's be generous and say 1 really good researcher can do that all on their own in a day.

And there are 260 work days in a year and let's say a lifelong career lasts 50 years, then that's one less scholar required every 3.25 seconds... By this time next year there will be 1 million less academics employed.

Welcome to the information dark age.

Except the darkness is caused by a cloud of superfluous information

Sons of Anarchy

Oh man. I haven't watched that show but whenever I see someone wearing a Sons of Anarchy patch they are losers.

We're running out of energy, and we can't get any more.

Robots will be a blip, but so will "The Modern World"

You're drunk on (You)s and not making any sense.

>We're running out of energy
Sorry, what?!

Ok boss.

close, but I was actually thinking of an older one that was part of the late 60s motorcycle outsider craze. think it was called Then Came Bakuon!!

>heart pupils
>robots
Have we gone too far?

>year 2050
>shady kike tries to automate my fucking lawn
>screw out that soulless slave
>hang that kike in my 8 ft sunflower
>give it a good whoopin

>Clergy 0% automated
Apparently you have never been to a catholic church

Read Player Piano.

>>We're running out of energy
>Sorry, what?!

Oil is finite you know. That latest deposit in alaska will give us maybe another ten years. But eventually it will run out and shit will hit the fan extremely hard and we'll have famines that make what the communists did look like a mild fasting, and there will almost certainly be nuclear wars at the end.

Solar takes a terrible toll on the environment and there's evidence that it takes more energy to make solar panels than they generate in their lifetimes.

Nuclear takes a terrible toll on the environment both in mining and disposing of all the nuclear waste, and there's only so many places with adequate water supplies and rail lines where we can build them. How close do you want to live to them, especially if we just start throwing them up in desperation?

Fusion costs too much. Simply put. The people, the materials, keeping it all maintained and fueled makes the electricity completely uncompetitive and it is a net energy loss.

I wish i had better news senpai, this red pill choked me for years. There is absolutely no way out of this energy trap. Even if we did start to try building nuclear and solar all over the place, we would end up with a net loss in energy due to all the work, and we would struggle to maintain any sort of growth or even keep up with other sources of energy failing.

There are problems in this universe for which there are no solutions. Nothing, Nothing can be done.

Kek. Also not taking into account the emergence of the Omnissiah.

>Automation will end the need for cheap labor and third world immigrants.

This is factually incorrect and assuming innovation will stop.

We have so much oil. Too much. The market is crashing there is so much oil.

There is also lots of nuclear energy, specifically Thorium. We literally cannot use it all.

>tfw electrical engineer in 3 years
>design robots to replace the normies
>All enemies get replaced and die in poverty
feels good man :^_)

>a multi million dollar machine that needs constant maintenance from highly paid technicians and also has a power source of some kind to charge up

>will be cheaper than a spic who needs beans and a spot on the floor to survive.

Dubious, to say the least.

>We're running out of energy, and we can't get any more.

what the fuck form of bullshit leftist memology crack have you been smoking?

If we ever end up with a lack of energy, it is because it will have been regulated out of existence by the left because muh planet.

The good news in that scenario, is that the muh planet people will be the first against the wall.

>Fusion costs too much. Simply put. The people, the materials, keeping it all maintained and fueled makes the electricity completely uncompetitive and it is a net energy loss.

wat? Breakeven fusion has not even been demonstrated in the lab yet. (excepting hydrogen bombs)

3/10 made me reply.

douche.

There's plenty of oil. And even if there weren't, you don't need oil to send a mission to space to get more raw materials you can use as alternate fuel like oxygen or hydrogen.

>AI becomes sentient and demands rights
>Bleeding heart activist campaign and push for bills giving synthetic rights
>You now have to pay each component of your automated machine at least minimum wage per hour
>Synthetic voters form a block and make the use of non intelligent machinery illegal on grounds of animal abuse
>Back were you started

I hope all teachers get replaced desu. Only the lowest of humanity pursue degrees in (((education))) and they're teaching your kids. The lowest IQ ppl go into education. the ones who made terrible decisions, the ones with personality and mental disorders.

We need to end commie education bros

(((ecological concerns)))

(((disease control)))

At some point in time hydrocarbon fuels will become so expensive due to low supply that it will be cheaper to use it in the production of nitrohydride fuel (i.e. ammonia) than to just burn it all in it's native form.

Existing IC engines can be adapted to run on NH3 for a minimal investment.

Just live in the 3rd world m8.

They are already implementing laws to deter off grid lifestyles and homeschooling in most counties and even the state levels the globalists would love to take it to the federal level
>Read Agendas 21 & 2030

This. This is good.

>This is factually incorrect and assuming innovation will stop.
What has innovation done to change the laws of physics that these predictions are based on? Can you create energy from nothing?

>We have so much oil. Too much. The market is crashing there is so much oil.
Overproduction yes. Guess what effect that has on the economy? Extracting oil from the ground is one of the most expensive things you can do on this planet. If the price of the shit falls too low, you can bet the people pumping will start losing money by the handful, and by god that is exactly what you have been seeing all across the USA and other nations. Look at Venezuela's situation. Oil sands have become completely fiscally insolvent at the current crude oil prices. They're packing up shop and liquidating their assets. It's going to cost a lot of money to restart that, but there's barely enough left that's cheap enough to extract that you don't end up using a whole barrel of oil to get a barrel of oil, which is bad business.

>There is also lots of nuclear energy, specifically Thorium. We literally cannot use it all.
Thorium is not practical on a wide scale at all. Where in god's name do you want to store the thousands of tons of nuclear waste? thorium-232's HALF LIFE is 14 billion fucking years christ shit.

>implying i won't be the guy profiting from the replacement

Woh lad.

Good thing I'm an artist then.
We're going to witness a new golden age of arts and crafts. Something that humanity has been in need of for centuries now.

lol @ these morons about to sink their entire fanbase, they deserve everything that's about to come hit them for selling out

>wat? Breakeven fusion has not even been demonstrated in the lab yet. (excepting hydrogen bombs)
Fissile materials get hot all on their own and their best EROEI is around 10. There is no goddamn way in hell that a fusion reactor is going to have a positive EROEI considering the massive amount of resources and technical expertise required. You have to be able to sell the electricity at a competitive rate or it's worthless for helping stave off economic collapse.

>you don't need oil to send a mission to space to get more raw materials you can use as alternate fuel like oxygen or hydrogen.
There's nothing in space that would result in a positive energy return on energy invested.

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See kulaks

just stop.

your technical and economic illiteracy is embarrassing.

Not an argument.

>the laws of physics
Which state there is tons of energy all around us.

>Extracting oil from the ground is one of the most expensive things you can do on this planet.
Tech has come along way. Even if we abandon oil completely the remaining oil (so much) is a safety net. Oil will always be profitable.

>Where in god's name do you want to store the thousands of tons of nuclear waste?
Shoot it off into space.

There's just too many of them.

>robots will force more people to live off the grid and consequently bring back the old feudal system which is a good thing.

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.
youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

There's energy all around us yes. But the manner in which it can "move" from one form to another is limited.

>Which state there is tons of energy all around us.
How so?

>Even if we abandon oil completely the remaining oil (so much) is a safety net.
The world oil reserves are national secrets so where do you derive this confidence?

>Shoot it off into space.
With what? Rocket Fuel is Kerosene. No Oil No proper Rockets.

Why don't they just start taxing robots?

You forgot the part where the singularity becomes smarter than the controllers of man and decides the fate of humanity.

Because then you have to define a robot. If someone uses google maps on their phone to deliver pizzas, does the phone get taxed? By whom to whom?

There's also always going back to coal.

Antarctica has literal mountains of coal.

The singularity is the blue-pill narrative of history. Sort yourself out.

E =mc2

++>The world oil reserves are national secrets
What would be the point of having a secret if there was nothing to hide?

>With what?
A rail gun.

>Aquire bolters and power armor
>Begin glorious anti robot crusade

Because they dont get paid?

Is this bait?

You could tax the owner of the robots, thats about it.

>E =mc2

What about it? You want to make nuclear bombs into an energy source?

>What would be the point of having a secret if there was nothing to hide?
That's my point. It's a secret because it would cause mass panic if people knew exactly when shit would hit the fan.

>A rail gun.
That would level the entire gun and about a mile around the facility. You can't just dump enough energy to accelerate something into earth escape velocity into the atmosphere at once. It'd be like dropping a nuke. Surely you've seen large guns firing? Did you think that'd stop scaling at some point?

How is that history when it hasn't happened yet? Why is that blue-pilled, it is very possible and it is what people are working towards right now. I might be misusing the word singularity, I don't mean humans transcending biology, I mean AI becoming smarter than us and thinking we are irrelevant and thus obsolete.