Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
1. How does one determine if labor is being utilized efficiently without market based pricing mechanisms?
2. Why would a vanguard party ever relinquish its absolute control over the lives and labor of the workers? How the fuck is the vanguard not a seperate class?
3. Where do you come up with a 4 hour workweek?
>work and the govt will provide food and shelter 4. One of the defining characteristics of slavery is the slave's lack of economic agency; work and you will be fed and sheltered. As an individual, the communist worker has effectively no say in how the proceeds of their labor is utilized, whereas in a capitalist system they use their earnings as they see fit and can try and sell their labor at a higher price or invest in themselves if they feel they are being ripped off. Under "democratic" communism their agency is limited to one vote in a society of millions (or billions) How is this decreased agency better for the individual? How can communism be anything other than a regression to the "lowest common denominator" under these circumstances? What incentive (inb4 gulags, torture, firing squad) does an individual have to be productive when his circumstances do not change based on the value of his labor?
>inb4 no replies or magic, pseudoreligious babble
Also, someone post the spurdo one.
Henry Nelson
>Resources
It's all the same website, the same ideology, no objective analysis. Fuck off.
James White
I'm sure they'll make a congruent reply, and after an intelligent discussion, they'll change their beliefs based on the new information they got. As opposed to close their eyes, creating a new thread later and pretend the discussion never happened; because they are nihilistic little worms that want to stay in pleasure island and thus reject the notion that they can define truth for themselves, favoring their inner fantasies of a nihilistic utopia where nobody needs virtue to survive, over reality.
Grayson Evans
The only good socialism is National Socialism.
Kevin Robinson
>When you're a dictatorship of the proletariat but when you get into a war your proletariat die by the millions as cannon fodder at such an astounding rate that you make the actual genocide being committed by your enemies look like a fucking joke
Adrian Martin
Shooo, shoooo!
Hunter Parker
>communism has literally never worked
Camden Murphy
1. An automated system: a project of the automated control system of the socialist state economy based on the principles of cybernetics , including a computer network connecting the data collection centers, located in all regions of the country and maybe even in produced goods. All society cybernetically steering into communism.
2. It would be managed by an artificial intelligence that would purge any corruption from the system
3. I don't understand the question very well
4. There is no need for commodities incentive in a society that can have great abundance thanks to the advances of technology, people do whatever job they like for the sake of it , the hours they want, for personal gratification.
Hi BR comrade did you take your hammer and sickle pills today ? I'm so sorry for your big capitalist tumor.
Jacob Ramirez
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Dominic Turner
The Helicopter comes for you all
Jose Ward
S A G E D A G E D
Parker Phillips
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Joshua Bell
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Joshua Gutierrez
Bump for the revolution
Oliver Roberts
why can't you commies just die, you fuck our country enough' slide tread saged
Easton Perry
Gommunism general
And sonik
Owen Morgan
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim gib gib gib! DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. httpswww.gommies.gomfug httpswww.gommies.gomstarve
GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here httpswww.gommies.gomohfugme
It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Hudson Bailey
1. How can you automate anything if you don't know their costs? How do you know the machine you are making costed less than a lifetime of its work, and how do you know that that specific machine is the most cost efficient for you to make at that moment?
2. Who would make such an AI? Who would control such an AI? Basically you want an AI to enslave mankind? That sounds really stupid.
4. You are assuming you'll have abundance, except you'll have no incentives and no calculation of costs to make such an abundance. Here we have a completely circular argument: "We wont need good methods of creating wealth because we'll actually be so damn wealthy.".
The part about the AI owning mankind, and the part where you think you can automate without knowing social costs makes it clear that it's all a fantasy inside your head. It's the result of a nihilistic creature with no true concept of reality just willingly deciding to drown in a fake reality of ultimate pleasure.
Cameron Scott
>Thanks for using this pic, retarded.
>OP
Ryder Collins
He's not going to respond, he never responds, just sage, troll, and move on.
Hunter Kelly
By the way, remember how we already had this discussion and how you already entered denial mode and avoided replying multiple times? Remember how after a whole week of these threads none of you even tried to reply for those commie teachers that had a thesis about computer communism?Let's face it, you won't even reply to me anymore, you'll pretend this never happened, and you'll create the same thread yet again, pretending your ideology is totally undebunkable. How long will it take for you to realize you are severely mentally ill?
Juan Evans
>night after night, spainbro copypastes the same OP >night after night, his threads are saged and hidden >night after night, he experiences the same bitter disappointment as his (You)s dwindle
