Why do Americans hate free healthcare so much?

Why do Americans hate free healthcare so much?

Because we don't want to wait for two or three weeks to see a doctor like you rotten teeth fuckers over there in your rainy socialist island.

Because they're idiots who don't understand the simple data point that other first world countries with single payer systems have the government *and* the individual paying less than under their Byzantine system.

This will be my sole post in the thread.

>free

Healthcare is earned. It's not a right.

Because it's only free for the freeloaders.
Everyone else is paying out the ass for themself AND the freeloader, so much that its almost useless even having the insurance to begin with because the deductibles are astronomical.

>free

I moved to australia from the usa, I can get seen right away

Who pays then? Magical socialist fairies that shed their gold plated wings for all to use?

Because it's not free, it an enormous burden on the fiscal burden on the state.

And we can't afford it since we have to pay for not only our own national defense, but Western Europe's as well.

you are getting lied to, I make 60 thousand and take home 54 with healthcare

>Free

No much longer. The issue with all free health care that it works fine at first but in time it collapses. Look at the UK and Canada. Oh, in case you can't read we are talking about the UK system dumb ass.

Because we don't don't trust our politicians to not fill their pockets

because we (on this board) are the ones paying for it.

As long as there are no repercussions for people who smoke, drink heavily, overeat, etc, it won't be fair. I'm willing to participate in a single payer system and help out people with cancer and the like, but not if you've worked on it longer than you've worked at your job.

Go to medical school and work as a slave if you love "free healthcare" so much.

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat, but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires" : - Steinbeck

inb4 >Steinbeck >Stein | Oi Vey

Because socialism is a scam.

Thank you based american

Someone's gotta pay for it.

>free

>(((free))) anything

because they don't read

Because we have a ridiculous amount of people who pay no federal income tax.

Because our government system made it too complicated.

All they had to do was set out a basic list of basic standards and a flat fee and everything would have been fine.

Are you a citizen? Do you pay taxes? Good.

You get your doctors visits laid and medicine free. Pay 100$ a month. Flat rate.

If your unemployed you still get the benifits, but there needs to be a limit to keep lazy ass guns away.

>"FREE"
Raising taxes to pay for healthcare is what it is.

Gibs. Is what innernet to say. Damn phone.

Because we understand that everything has a cost to it unlike you Jose.

I want privatised healthcare. NHS is gonna cost us loads more if we keep taking in shitskins,
Doctors also expect to get paid like the american ones do on a fucking social healthcare system. its insane

This right fucking Here even leafs can attest to that shit.

>""""""free"""""" healthcare
I'd like it fine if I only had to pay for white people's healthcare.
I don't want to prop up niggers and beaners anymore.
Let them all die, the way they want Europeans to die.
These assholes are our enemies, and don't deserve to be helped by us.

Imagine if McDonalds gave out free Big Macs every day, the long would be so long it wouldn't be worth it.

Because it means a chunk of my paycheck going to pay for Shaniquas 8th litter.

If I lived in a white country I would be for it.

Wouldn't actually raise taxes considering how much you already pay for the little you get.

>Healthcare
>Free

So, we are enslaving doctors now?

Because we don't wanna pay for fat fucks and niggers to reproduce like rats and drain our budget without any responsibility.

Because we don't, conversely, want to have other people to stop smoking/eating/etc, or have the govt put regulations on food etc, to keep health care cost down.

Because we don't want to have our ability to live controlled by the government.

Basically, because we don't trust the government to be benevolent. Government is what let in a billion Moslems into the west. They don't have our best interests in mind, nor will they ever.

In a perfect world, yes, social medicine, one-payer, fine, but I see that as part of a utopian post scarcity thing, and even that is not preferable with all the genetic sub 90 IQ garbage out there.

Ruling the waves is expensive. I wish all of NATO contributed as y'all do. In a similar fashion; conquering disease is expensive. Our contributions on both fronts allow Nations aligned with our interests to benefit from our support - insofar as becoming socialized without becoming hellholes.

In being the first of our kind - a benign empire - our allies take advantage with socialized services derived and subsidized by the backing of American Might, Labor, and R&D.

>UK
>when free healcare means you have to travel to france or india to pay for healthcare

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err.... we have tax payer funded health care, and I never wait to see my doctor... perhaps 5/10 mins.

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It's not free because it's my tax dollars. The primary recipients of it would be niggers and latinos.

As they are not my people, I feel no compulsion to help them. So I feel no need to support healthcare for people I consider cancer.

Fuck off, you faggot bong.

#1 its not free asshole.

#2 our system already has monopoly problems. Throwing more money at it will make it worse and hide the issues. It'll just end up being a giant monster no one can deal with.

>Doctors also expect to get paid like the american ones do on a fucking social healthcare system. its insane

Well they did do all the studying and stuff to become doctors. I'm pretty sure they didn't do it just for fun.

>paying for niggers spics and kikes health care at the expense of other white people's health

hmmm

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>"free"

The US has 10 times the population of Australia in 2016. The average yearly income in Aus is $79,767 (bing search) and in the US it is $26,695. That means that a lot more money has to be pumped into the system by those who earn a lot more in the US than it would in Australia. Im no economist, but those numbers make sense. Your Total health expenditure per capita in US dollars (PPP).[2] for 2015 was 4420 while the US was 9451. Free healthcare just won't work here.

yeah, but you are Australia, im pretty sure you dont have 1/3 of your population abusing it without paying in

I don't know how it works in the UK, but here we pay 14 fucking percent of our earnings for this "free" healthcare.

>works fine at first but in time it collapses.

Lol. The U.K. And Canada's systems have been working better and cheaper than the US's for over fifty years. We've had millions die of preventable diseases over that span. Name one socialized healthcare system that has "collapsed" in the last 20 years.

nice proxy, desu

your grandparents are going to get death paneled at 60 to pay for a mudslimes surgery who is young and "productive"

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meh
you either need single payer or a fully free market system IMO
same shit with your education

Because all anyone deserves to do is die. Starting with anyone who isn't a straight white male.

It's not free.

I dont think so, Our family is closely knit together, Bupa is our option since we look after ourselves. I would love an option to opt out of the fucking National insurance system and go full private

We are all already on privatized dental care (lol british teeth no thanks) and I payed a massive amount to get em sorted.

Free is shitty

Because we are not a homogeneous society.
Blacks will always take more than they contribute.

You got the other version?

We don't hate free healthcare. Free healthcare is called eating well, drinking water, getting enough sleep, and exercise. Take some vitamins for bonus points.

You're just an enslaved robot.

>bleep, blorp, healthcare, bloop

You're a serf, you live in the trojan horse of europe, and you will die a defiant, sad little man with a country given over to Muhammadans. Your children will curse you and the entirety of your struggle will amount to nothing.

Sage.

>This meme again
No one is waiting two to three weeks to see a doctor. Also long wait times only applies to elective procedures, which also occurs in private systems.

The U.S. outputs more drug R&D than most other countries combined. The reason why this is possible is because Americans still pay a market price for these new drugs. Other countries like yours get to benefit from these new drugs and at the same time pay less than Americans because of your healthcare system, and the only reason why countries like the UK are able to do such a thing is because of American generosity.

How much of a dumb fuck do you have to be in order to believe that healthcare can be free when nothing else in your life is free?

People die, and they sometimes die tragically and horribly, thus is nature at work and one would be naive to believe that a centrally planned system of healthcare is sustainable.

>be canadian
>Aboriginal, White male
>Go to doctor because I think I have a back problem
>doctor throws wallet on the floor and tells me to pick it up
>Pick it up even though my back hurts a lot
>tells me to get out
>get Jap gf
>Move to japan with her
>Go to doctor because is getting worse
>pay a medium amount and they preform x-ray and surgery within 2 weeks of diagnosis.

This actually happened to my uncle

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It's a scam when they actually made you pay for it.

Healthcare is a service
You are not entitled to a service

"""""""""""""free"""""""""""""""""

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>Living is not a right
Then what's the point of having human rights, free speech, fuck, what's the point of living at all?

Gee how would I have guessed Op one Post.

Its not fucking free stop fucking saying this you dumb fucks

>45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage


>According to a September 2016 study by Alex Nowrasteh at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, some 3,024 Americans died from 1975 through 2015 due to foreign-born terrorism. That number includes the 9/11 terrorist attacks (2,983 people) and averages nearly 74 Americans per year.

But if you want to shunt budget money to healthcare you are a socialist and if you shunt it to anti-terror you are a patriot.

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The majority of public healthcare spendings go to the elderly and people with disabilities. What if you suddenly got sick tomorrow? Is it really that hard to believe in a social safety net that will protect everyone including yourself?

Maybe because americans not stupid for once, and understand that "free" healthcare is scam and a rip-off?

>Free healthcare is called eating well, drinking water, getting enough sleep, and exercise


>Just live better

Because it forces healthy middle class people who don't need health care to pay for the poor sick people who will never pay into health care

Inevitably someone has to pay for it, Mohammed.

>healthcare ridiculously expensive
>making it totally government funded would reduce the cost somehow

And how much money is wasted on people who go to the doctors for EVERYTHING.

If you dont look after your body you can expect it to fall to shit. Then its going to cost more to keep you alive. that cost has to be incured SOMEWHERE.

Not to mention you are more likely to get shitty service when you are going through a public avenue to healthcare.
If it comes to my health ill want the BEST i can afford

Nah, get fucked leaf. It's my money, I'm not paying for some other asshole.

>Who pays for 800 overseas millitary bases?
>Who pays for a thousand mile border wall on the Mexican border?
>Who pays for massive tax breaks for large corporations?
>Who pays when large companies can't pay back their debts?
>Who pays the millitary industrial complex?
>Who pays Israel?
>Who pays for wars of aggression?
>Who pays for government surveillance?
>Who pays for militarized police forces?
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the government should just implement price controls desu. price gouging is rampant in the industry

Federal spending on the military is covered by the constitution, health care is not, you fucking moron.

What if you just had all basic services guaranteed and if you wanted more you could get it private?

My theory for why we can never have universal healthcare or single payer in America is essentially that we're too fat, smoke too much, and have too many alcoholics.

Most people are fine with subsidizing healthcare for your neighbor if they have cancer or arthritis or some condition they didn't bring upon themselves. We do not want to subsidize people's bad habits because it only promotes more degeneracy. If we didn't have so many great big land whales waddling around it wouldn't be such a problem. We're too fat for free healthcare.

two words: free market.

It's sad how Americans have become so degenerate that they disrespect their elders and ridicule disabled people. With that level of empathy, how can you call yourself human?

the free market is why we have price gouging in the first place

BYZANTIUM DID NOTHING WRONG SASSENACH

>And how much money is wasted on people who go to the doctors for EVERYTHING.

"according to Brian Fallon, at least 25 percent of patient visits to doctors are believed to have no identifiable medical cause. Moreover, approximately 12 percent of the population suffers from some form of a fear of illness."

"A study by Barsky found that those with unexplained physical symptoms with no medical basis accounted for 16 percent of all medical costs, with the annual cost of hypochondria in the billions of dollars"

I would say that its a significant cost, that said: What does hypochondria have to do with the matter at hand?

>that cost has to be incured SOMEWHERE

Yes, the healthy pay and the rotating sick get the benefit of that paying. Its how insurance works and its been a functional system for ages

>Not to mention you are more likely to get shitty service when you are going through a public avenue to healthcare.
If it comes to my health ill want the BEST i can afford

Yes and that's fine. That is how it works here in The Bahamas: If you can afford it you get better service at a private doctor but if you are falling apart you go to the government clinic and they sort you but your ass waits on the line with the other people who are in a bad way.

If America wasn't sending so much cash to Israel you could afford basic healthcare like we have in Australia.
You may not want to pay for niggers and spics but your War Veterans are dying in the fucking streets
You are like a 3rd World Country when it comes to healthcare

>muh appeal to emotions

Again, read the constitution you stupid moose fucker.

That's why pedophiles, murders, rapists, drug addicts, etc, who are in prison get their health care for free.

How is that an argument to pay for Cholita and her eight crotchgoblins?

The Constitution covers defence, not wars of aggression. How is having a millitary base is Kyrgyzstan keeping Americans safe?

its not about the guarantee of those basic services.
I have friends that takes days/weeks to get an appointment because the clinics are so swamped with people just going in for any old illness. I ring up in the morning and BOOM i have an appointment same day

And these people are either Old/Disabled which i have no problem with OR they are people who are abusing the system for some sort of other benefit such as disability (as in "Im too fat to work, or my back is too fucked so i cant work").

The GP's here want to get you to lose weight or quit smoking first and aid is given, but these fucks just dont do it. they stay unhealthy and abuse the system more, Which fucks up wait times and causes doctors to rush diagnosis which can be even WORSE than just outright not treating something.

You do pay more thoughtand on top of that you pay much more than we do for private insurance.