Multiculturalism

give me your best arguments against multiculturalism, why doesn't it work and what are some good examples that prove it doesn't.

south africa comes to my mind, but please give me some more opinions on it.

and what about those cases in which it works? like big cities, does multiculturalism work if everyone inside the multicultural society is rich?

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The two evolutionary "strategies" are termed r-selection, for those species that produce many "cheap" offspring and live in unstable environments and K-selection for those species that produce few "expensive" offspring and live in stable environments.

Without modern air travel, humanity would be much, MUCH better off.

I've been thinking about that just recently too.
we didn't have this a situation like the current before, right? I mean non-european emigrating to european countries. It has always been close neighbours emigrating in neighbouring countries.
colonists also emigrated to distant countries, but it didn't work out and they left. those who stayed are being slaughtered by the native population.

I think multiculturalism is actually pretty good.

I think many Japanese problems come from not understanding the outside world. Sometimes we are so ignorant of how it is outside Japan, I wonder how we got as powerful as now. Perhaps, we at least would not have old person problem sucking life from our economy if we had more foreigners to work.

Also, I can't find good pizza outside of capital city.

Multiculturalism in a social sense doesn't work for reasons that are cultural analogues of the same incompatibilities that make miscegenation a bad idea.

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>give me your best arguments against multiculturalism

Living in Germany, race traitor.

Easy

well, multiculturalism doesn't solve that. at least not in the western understanding of multiculturalism.
your people should visit other countries if they want to learn about other cultures, that's how it works best.

I would have no idea about southeast asian culture if i hadn't travelled there myself. although we have lots of thai, chinese, vietnamese restaurants etc.

The biggest problem is that multiple cultures together at once is a recipe for disaster. Different cultures have different values, like African cultures versus western cultures: in Europe it is a crime to have sex with someone below 18 or 16, while in Nigeria it is perfectly legal to fuck an 11 year old. It is also a cure for AIDS to rape a toddler in some areas of Africa.

We've never had this kind of situation before, fortunately there will always be a market for whites

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Travel is too expensive for most. My family isn't poor but many other things are more important than travel. A one week holidaay does't teach anything.

I only talked to a foreigner who was an ALT in my school. There was only handful of foreigners in my university and I never talked with them.

This can't be for a healthy country.

Multiculturalism doesn't work on a genetic level. Humans are not made for multiculturalism. Social capital, which is the measurement of trust levels in a society, have shown us that whenever even ONE family that is different enters a village, trust inside the entire village goes down between the families already there.

That and r/K gene selection theory, IQ being hereditary, behavior being genetic and non-Europeans + women en masse voting for socialism and the destruction of society.

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Most people don't want it, and it's being forced on them.
Don't have to use science to figure out that going against the will of the people is going to cause strife

you are right, diverse perspectives are good for a country. what you need to do is import as many africans as you can so that at least half of all japanese women are impregnated with black babies

>the outside world
パンドラの箱を開ける、
厄介な問題を引き起こす、
災いを呼ぶ、
収拾のつかない事態を引き起こす

I don't think it's much different in other parts of the world, the broad part of the population never experiences other countries apart from hotels at the beach of some holiday location.
The government should help enable young people to travel to other countries in my opinion.
There was a proposal once in europe that young people in the eu should be paid train tickets to travel around europe, but the i guess the majority of politicians didn't find that a good idea.

We should export Detroit to Japan

crime rates in every ethnic homogeneous country? crime rates in every multicultural country?

NIGGERS

Why Americans always supersize everything? Bugers. French Fries. Opinions.

that's an excellent picture, i wanted to create something like this before but was too lazy

>BUGERS

It seems cheaper just to let a few more in. Not enough to destroy Japanese culture, but enough so work is done and average country idiot doesn't amazed at blue eyes.

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have you ever heard the expression 'give a foot and they take a mile'? multiculturalists wont stop at just cultural exchanges. that is not multiculturalism.

yes, but as I said, you learn nothing about their culture that way. you don't experience how they live, how they dress, how they eat, how the country looks like

It works in Singapore as our law is harsh. Anyone can be vanned for racism. Even racist remarks are punishable by the law.

Ha ha ha don't under-estimate power of a Showa-era Japanese warhawk. They will stop when we tell them to stop because Japanese people value distinct culture the most.

I'm just saying, maybe take it easy a bit.

No, I said one week trip doesn't do that. It's different when they live next to you.

Look up the U.S. obesity rates by race and make an inference as to who is buying these supersized meals.
Hint: Americans also tend to make quite a bit more money than yuropoors but spend it either retardedly, or it gets sucked up by the $2500 a month rent.

Sup Forums

i want to believe you but i dont think i can

I'm against multiculturalism at simple, everyday level.
Multiculturalism is great if all parties contribute equally. If one gives more, like cuckolded Swedes and others (Muslims) takes more and gives nothing,, then it is unjust, and despicable. And the party that takes more should be deported or send to camps to be educated.
To quote a wise sage:

''We cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange.'' (Alphonse Elric, 1916)

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I see no problem here.

Multiculturalism works pretry well. Look at Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, Ireland under the British Empire, Czechoslovakia, the hunderds of thousands Germanic people who were never deported and blamed collectiviley guilt all over Central and Eastern Europe. Poland and Gerece shouldnt exists it was much better them under the rule of a different culture`s power. Ethnic purges never happened all over the world because we can get along with different cultures so well. Oh wait.

Why would they work if they are already shiny-pokemon famous? They will have accident babies to gaijin groupies.

but there will always be stronger and weaker, those who take and those who give. my problem is that the muslims arent stronger but the conflict isnt a fair conflict. swedes are definitely stronger than muslims but theyre just too far gone spiritually to fight and turning people into cucks is deserving of death. we need to just have wars already

>observe flag
Well that's a big one right there.

You dumbass Amerifag.
Those samurai didn't make up even 3% of the society. The rest of Japs were filthy peasants. Now instead of farming they've graduated into octopus fucking and the rest, but the Japanese soul, yamato damashii or something called like that, it is possessed by the Japanese cultural elites, and they are the ones that are great. Unlike your america where your ''elites'' promote globalism to cuckold themselves.

so youre saying japan is a second rate nation stuck in the middle ages?

>american elites are globalists
those are YOUR elites. take back your khazars.

>Big citys are known for crime
>SA
>Japan(ethno-nationalist example)
>Rhodesia
>Germany
>Sweden
>USA
>France

However if you dont have any passion for blood and soil, there is no way to prove ethno-nationalism to you.

You basicly have to explain how nature is a genetical contest and the best genetics survive.

Austria-Hungary

Do you have any examples of it working in the first place?

Find the most multicultural and diverse areas in Germany and try living in them for a while. Get back to us and tell us how it works out for you.

Soviet Union,Austria-Hungary,Ottoman Empire...and so on

I'm looking for undeniable examples

no

Underrated

>I'm looking for undeniable examples

Leftists will find ways to deny everything. What do you need them for?

it is undeniable that certain cultures are incompatible with each other, they will not mix, one will just overtake. if you are happy that swedes are being bred out, you are not a multiculturalist, you are a jihadist

This. Well done.

I'm writing redpills for german speakers

Your entire country, and continent are prime examples of why it doesn't work.

How long has it been since your last terrorist attack or public raping? 12 hours? Competing for the high score right now, lets see if you can break the record of 18 hours. Haven't beaten that since 2014!

For Islam in the UK read up about Tommy Robinson and what happens in all the London boroughs where whites have become minorities like Harrow, Tower Hamlets and Luton.

Faggot OP won't even research both sides of his own argument.

Multiculturalism as a term covers ALL different mixes of cultures. It's like asking if ALL foods taste good together. In the similar way there's a wide variety in different cultures. Some of them are more compatible with each-other and some less. As long as there's variety of cultures that are physically capable of mixing in a location, multiculturalism won't work. Cultural habits sit really deep in people and we know an unfortunately big portion of them are willing to violate civil rights of those who disagree.

Multiculturalism is an inevitable phenomena that eventually leads into a "world government" spearheaded by advancements in locomotion, technology and informational interconnection. Now the problem is, that there's people who try to force it, not understanding it can only ever happen naturally and that's going to be thousands of years, not a politician's lifetime...

so then focusing on muslims will be enough? it doesnt have to be just the concept of multiculturalism itself?

>Sweden, 48% of assault rapes committed by non-western immigrants
thelocal.se/28580/20100825/

>Immigrants in Norway are a net loss to the economy
emnbelgium.be/publication/report-norwegian-welfare-and-migration-committee

>Immigrants in Sweden are a net loss to the economy
amid.dk/pub/papers/AMID_48-2006_Jan_Ekberg.pdf

>Public opinion in most countries are not in favor of immigration
ipsos.fr/sites/default/files/attachments/globaladvisor_immigration.pdf

>Norway has begun to self-segregate pupils based on ethnicity to avoid ethnic conflict even with just a tiny bit of diversity
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8916947/Apartheid-row-at-Norwegian-school-af
ter-it-segregates-ethnic-pupils.html

>Increases in diversity correlate with problems worldwide, and the downsides of diversity effect everyone, it's a universal human problem:
theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/the-downside-of-difference/story-e6frgcjx-111111291
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>Increased diversity correlates sharply with decreased community spirit, decreased altruism, depressed social capital, less ethical behaviour, more crime, fear, isolation and depression:
city-journal.org/html/eon2007-06-25jl.html

>Diversity experiments in Germany end in disaster
spiegel.de/international/germany-s-immigrants-integration-in-theory-alienation-in-practic
e-a-433006.html

>Denmark saved billions by restricting immigration:
spiegel.de/international/europe/putting-a-price-on-foreigners-strict-immigration-laws-sav
e-denmark-billions-a-759716.html
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/8492822/Denmarks-immigration-laws-save-country-6-billion.html

>Sweden: 5% of the whole population commits 77% of all rapes.
themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/the-living-hell-for-swedish-women-5-muslims-commit-nearly-77-6-of-all-rape-crimes/
affes.wordpress.com/invandrarna-och-brotten-5-utrakning/

>Norway: 90% of all rapes committed in Oslo by non-western immigrants.
themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/norway-90-of-all-violent-rapes-in-oslo-committed-by-muslims/
politi.no/vedlegg/lokale_vedlegg/oslo/Vedlegg_1309.pdf

>France: The muslim population of France is 12%, yet they make up 60 to 70% of all inmates in France's prisons.
wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics
washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html

>France: 70% of the population think there are too many foreigners & 74% think that Islam is not compatible with french society.
thelocal.fr/page/view/too-many-foreigners-in-france-french-say#.UU-a1xxhWnI
lajeunepolitique.com/2013/02/07/what-remains-of-our-douce-france-ipsos-survey-reveals-divisions-concerns/

>Crime statistics 2010: roughly 15% of Americas population is black, yet they commit overall 48% of all murder, 32% rapes and 55% robbery.
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls

>Multiculturalism has utterly failed.
reuters.com/article/2010/10/16/us-germany-merkel-immigration-idUSTRE69F1K320101016
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994
reuters.com/article/2011/02/11/us-france-sarkozy-multiculturalism-idUSTRE71A4UP20110211

>Tower Hamlets
that's sad

yes, muslims is currently the main problem obviously, thanks for the links

>alchemy

yeah if you could just stop being retarded that would be great

>Japs were filthy peasants
>what are Burakumin

After the merchants took over the common folk in the Meiji era it was bound to happen. The nips jewed themselves long before WW2

diversity makes in long term a decrease in social solidarity and capital
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/full
mention if you want too redpill leftys than this searches came from a Harvard graduate,I know it's an authority fallacy but they always thinks they have 'smarter people" on their side so mentionning it would make them go full cognitive dissonence,then after you could mention Charles Murray,Richard Lynn and Nyborg about race-realism but you need to talk about it later when they get what you're meaning or they would call the cops and call you a nazi

>south africa comes to my mind

Multiculturalism, in its simplest sense, is just cosmopolitanism; which is what you're referring to in big cities.

But that's not the argument for multiculturalism. The argument for it is based in colonialism, as a means of assimilation. By "allowing" interactions to take place in a cultures expansion with the aboriginal population the cultures can become more harmonious in the relationship to the state. This is interculturalism.

Marxist ideas are critical of a privileged authority using its expansion of the state to create an environment for interculturalism so that the dominant culture controls the means of production. Therefore the individual ethnicities must be diversified in both representation and direct control of the state. But what happens is that conflict is created by celebrating those differences do to intercultural competition through jobs. The tension that is created can lead to sectarian violence.

Therefore, if domination from a select cultural group permeates power in a state they can create a system that keeps different ethnicity in line, if the different groups were allowed to compete and encouraged to do so (such as Germany, one of many examples) ethnic tension can lead to conflict.

Look at your own country idiot , 3/4th generation turks still speak their language and wave turkish flags every opportunity they get ,same with albans .

Well, I'll give you how I see it in Israel-

People from all over the world came here, and they sure were quick to be assholes to each other.

Now, there is still allot of butthurt between middle-eastern Jews and European Jews... They just don't really get along on the large scale...

Completely different cultures and behaviors... And each seems on the large scale to stay in certain communities and ideas...


Heck, there's just very little in common with people of different backgrounds, and even if there's a new generation, they just seem to follow what is familiar, rather than actually blend in and become "One people".

It's always a minority of people, usually the more intellectual and compassionate kind, that are capable to bond together and do things...


The rest?

The rest are pretty much totally different people that stay out of each other, which means that there isn't any honor among people, no sense of direction, no actual culture, no real identity.


Israel still has a massive diversity... Of Jewish people.


By a large percentage, different cultures and backgrounds just don't seem to mix well...

And the "Jew" excuse just isn't enough of a common ground.

that's good, ty