Socialism

>My frog can kill your frog.

Hey leaf, i hereby declare that your wife has no value and therefore to be shared with the workers. You okay with that? No? Guess I'll have you sent to the Gulags.

Idolizing Stalin and the Soviet Union is perhaps the dumbest thing you can do as a commie considering what was done and how it turned out. Focus on the never been tried meme. It's shit, but less shit than how soviet communism turned out.

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it's funny because food is property and if there's no property there's no food
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The day of the rake is near.

I chuckled. I still hate you, though.

>People are not property, they have rights.

You know nothing of Socialism

I'm not a Stalinist or a communist you dipshit.

I fucking dare you burger

>no property there's no food
WTF are you smoking?

blue haze mixed with tobacco, what's your point?

You don't know what you're talking about.

yeah I forgot, communism has never been tried, srry

I personally idoliz Tito-sama

Why don't we declare that there's no value for everything, it solves everything!

>Putting economics above race

How's your socialist paradise gonna look when it's infested with dumb niggers who produce nothing?

That was the british...

It's because of the exploitation niggers that your empire thrived.

It was us.

are you suggesting that we exploit niggers again to continue thriving?

Leaf, look at that filename.

Capitalism has no property, since you rent everything and don't own companies where you work, so you don't elect bosses based on their performance.
In Socialism you owned apartments and then you had houses and you owned the company where you worked, so you elected your boss among workers.

>dont realize that the "no property" part in communism was created by the kikes because it says so in their holy books, that we should have no property
>not realizing that the commie kikes took the socialism part of communism from the national socialists in germany
>communism is basically a perverted socialism, with benefits for kikes

LOL

Top meme

I'm entering *your* house and pissing on the floor, also eating *your* lunch.

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I wonder where does the rental goes to...
Hmm...

No, it's that we shouldn't fuck them over for their hard work.

>people have self-ownership and property over their own bodies but not ownership in the goods they create/homestead/exchange with each other.

Oh my, Hoppe wants to have a word with you.

>communist telling anyone they don't know what they're talking about

> and then die of starvation

Technical it was British because we were not a country. But it was still us.

>Nigger proceeds to scream 'muh slavery' and slack.

That is personal, not private property.

Hmm... overpaying by 10000 times some old bricks, i wonder if it ever will be paid off.

lol this minor criticism does not refute the argument brought forth of how communism was created. And it was created out of hateful jew lore.

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personal=private, you idiot. when does the qualitative leap happen and my house starts to be private? What if it has the size of a city, is it private or personal?

No. It was literally the British. Here is the unit that did it.

>when does the qualitative leap happen and my house starts to be private?
Your house isn't capital.

Yes, it is. What is a consumer good can also be a capital good. I can have a division of my house that is a restaurant, then what?

Privatization in economic sense has literally nothing to do with personal. Nationalization is personal, like literally owned by everybody in country. When democracy talks about privatization they talk about foreign investors, never about native investors. Native(nationalized) it was before foreigners bought(privatized) it. Private owners never build anything, they just buy and sell.

By giving the private property rights and rental to the government, he thinks he owned the means of production. Oh, and try stop paying rental and you no longer have the means of shit.

>I can have a division of my house that is a restaurant, then what?
Then your house becomes capital and therefore subject to the interests of commies because it's "means of production."

>WHAT IF I TURN MY HOUSE INTO A FACTORY, HUH?
Then it becomes a fucking factory, not your fucking house.

What is the point of this fucking retardation?

user, you always pay tax, difference is that in Socialism you build your homes and companies with that tax, while in capitalism that tax goes into private pockets and you pay additional money to build. Paying tax in capitalism gives you less and less. Capitalism has also much higher tax, which finances you don't own, don't vote for its laws, don't spend in your city based on worker's voting, it's spend by mayor's free will how ever he wants.

But I'm not talking about a privatization process. I'm talking about private property. Also you're wrong, the term privatization is applied to anything that is state owned and is given or sold to any individual or group. It is applied to the process of giving property titles of houses in favelas is South America to their inhabitants for example.

So it is not property, I can't use it for whatever I want it to. Differentiating between personal and private property has no basis whatsoever. Also, what an incentive to not be productive.

What does state owned mean? There's no such thing as state owned in USA. Their politicians are all private sponsored, their whole government is private owned by other private institutions in international market: stocks, federal reserve, corporations. If i owned my banks through state, wouldn't you think i would vote for their laws and know what the fuck is going on inside and knew who runs shit? I don't, therefore it's not state owned. You just given private owners golden keys to your life and you feeding them through tax which you don't control in any way. In Socialism you vote for every tree to be pulled and every law to be shaped and every price to be made, it's a process from workers to worker elected bosses to bosses elected higher bosses to top officials, who can all be fired by workers when they don't meet the laws workers want. It's impossible for politicians or mayors to steal from pensions, to re-shift money reserves anywhere else than what workers paid those reserves through tax for. You privatized your insurance and pensions, so they fuck you owner with prices sky high.

>Differentiating between personal and private property has no basis whatsoever.
You were just given the fucking basis.

The basis is "is it capital?"

>I can't use it for whatever I want it to
You can't use a gun for whatever you want to either you ignorant fuck. Property is a bundle of rights, one which being exclusive use. You never, ever have an unlimited right to exclusive use for ANY piece of property you own simply by virtue of living in a state which has as part of its reserve powers the ability to nationalise or requisition anything, and everything, you own.

to add to that:

>there is this huge problem of inequality thanks to industrialization
>jew: well the obvious solution to that is to abolish all private property!

wat? If at that time something like UBI was suggested it would have made more sense. But where in the flying fuck does this idea of removing private property help? It has nothing to do with industrialization.

I can answer the why to this question to: In the kaballah the goym are not meant to have property because they are considered to be cattle

You just described every state in the world, corruption is always part of a democracy, rulers have every incentive to loot as much as possible during the 4 or 5 years they are in power. And please, study economics, you don't even know how prices work. Social Security is a Ponzi scheme.

> You can't use a gun for whatever you want to either you ignorant fuck.
You do as long as you don't violate anyone else's right. That's what a right is.
>You never, ever have an unlimited right to exclusive use for ANY piece of property you own simply by virtue of living in a state which has as part of its reserve powers the ability to nationalise or requisition anything, and everything, you own
Of course, the state is the major violator of property rights, and the right to life too, the state has the power to kill you whenever it wants to.

I need more of these colored meme frogs

My frog can get me high. If i lick it.

>You do as long as you don't violate anyone else's right. That's what a right is.
That's one opinion, sure.

It doesn't matter what you think your rights are. They won't magically appear in corporeal form to save you. Rights are totally irrelevant to this discussion.

The differentiation between private property and personal property is capital. I for one hate the terms private property and personal property used in this way. It's retarded. There's public property, capital, and private property. That's what the terms actually mean.

>Of course, the state is the major violator of property rights, and the right to life too, the state has the power to kill you whenever it wants to.
It's also the major guarantor of your rights.

That's Marx logic for you.
Personal property is property I like.
Private property is property I don't like.

In Socialism you control means of production, which implies tax and every company where you are employed. In capitalism you don't control tax, you don't control companies, you are just there because some boss you don't control decided shit to fire you, to burn company on your shoulders and there's nothing you can do to complain. In capitalism you don't even own the nature in your city, it's all decided by some private owners and they can literally cut everything down, force your housing prices to go up, force your supermarket prices go up, to basically ruin you in every way possible, to force you to move into bigger city, like they doing all over EU. When that's done you can go move to Mutti Merkel's Germany, since there you get higher salary, so the international masters decided, yes equality in EU, such fairy tale. So who decided that some country got more money than other? Well that's your international money masters, they decide how much your shit is worth, since you sold everything, didn't you? If my country has everything nationalized and nothing is part of international market then international money people can't decide how much my house or money is worth, it's as worth as much as we make it out to be. We can say in Socialism house costs 10 dollars, bicycle costs 1 dollar, doesn't matters, we are money masters. In big picture international financial system is there to control you, to be above countries, this is what world wars were fought for.

Your frog kills anything it touches.
That's why it's a weapon or a pest.
Shoo shoo.

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>Thinks communist peon can kill citizen.

No.

Sure leaf. Let's go.

At least this thing won't eat me.