117263152 your lads are the """patriots""", they receive money directly from Moscow.
Juan Taylor
Just give him a (You).
Brayden Hill
Meant for you:
Nicholas Parker
Twas a mistake.
your lads are the """patriots""", they receive money directly from Moscow.
Luke Collins
Have you taken the Vazrazhdane pill yet user?
Hunter Brown
Not yet. First time I heard about them.
I was wondering about New Republic and Yes, Bulgaria: both parties were absolutely sabotaged by the establishment since day one. Must be doing something right if they old boys hate them.
Oliver Perez
Read their party programme. It's in the OP.
Christian Clark
stop these shilling threads
Zachary Morris
Bulgaria bros I have a question since it's hard to read about the parties. It seems to me superficially you have a slightly similar version of our elections ahead of you. The two main normie options would be pro-EU commies/socialists that will never win or pro-EU centrists/slightly neoliberal people, with /ourguys/ not breaking 10%.
How is the resentment of the EU and immigration in general among your population? Are people campaigning on EU vs Russia and are nationalist parties considered racist?
Logan Ward
Daily reminder that any reactionaryism or nationalism in the rapidly-dying Bulgaria is fucking retarded
Our future is to become a region of a unified EU. Sucks a massive dick, yes, but that's how reality is. Shouldn't have lost all those fucking wars and territories with them, we have only ourselves to blame
Every anti-EU sentiment is directly damaging Bulgaria's future as they inject a massive capital into our economy, and us leaving is equal to a 10 year old kid running away from his parents. Grow a prefrontal cortex and stop shilling for parties that will hurt your wages.
John Ross
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Aaron Thompson
EU hasn't pushed enough buttons to be hated nationalist parties aren't considered "racist" per se because we're pretty homogeneous (aside from gypsies and turks, but they're in their own little ghettos) and people are a good amount of racist towards gyppos
go fucking away soros your plan (pic attached) was uncovered
Jonathan Hughes
>How is the resentment of the EU and immigration in general among your population? Small. I've had this discussion many times with Dutch people and they never believe me but EU is better than Bulgarian national politics. Absolutely no chance of Bulgaria ever voluntarily exiting EU, we might get kicked out or invaded but Bugexit will never happen. >Are people campaigning on EU vs Russia and are nationalist parties considered racist? Commies and """patriots""" (Russian stooges) keep saying they support Russia but then do whatever the EU tells them because otherwise they wouldn't be able to steal EU funds.
Nationalism is of course called racist by the Soros funded usual suspects but literally no one gives a damn. Absolute majority of Bulgarian are much more racist than your Wilders will ever dare to be.
Blake Campbell
Your future is to become dependent on foreign money, give up sovereignty in exchange and hope your economy will rebound in a globalist system? How about devaluing your currency to promote investment like you have since the crisis and work on your manufacturing and energy/mining?
Actually questions. I've never felt convinced the EU is necessary for anything and we've had a similar debate over here about the Ukraine, another industrial manufacturing country.
Adrian King
This. We've turned into a complete non-country in the last 30 years. All we need to do is suck kraut cock in the EU and lie low on the sidelines and swallow as much quality outsourcing as we can. Volen and Karakachanski can rave all they want but then you literally have no money in the budget to do anything and people work for 400 euro, living in abject misery, and half(the better quality half)of uni graduates leave the country never to return, then you have to change something radically.
What else do you propose, mr turbonationalist? Maybe if we go listen to some slavi everything will be alright, amirite :^)
Zachary Reyes
I imagine this is related to being convinced they need EU capital to keep their economy afloat, like that other user said? It is a little strange to me considering how industry-heavy the Bulgarian economy is. Is the Gestalt among the people that the EU is benevolent and that their money creates jobs or something? The parties must have a simple PR line for being pro-EU that doesn't involve the uncomfortable consequences.
Isaiah Hall
>I've never felt convinced the EU is necessary for anything Because you've always been a part of it. You literally don't realise how much of what you take for granted is made possible only because of EU. You only see your national government blaming absolutely everything that goes wrong on the EU, when at least 2/3rds of the time is the fault of national politicians.
Bulgarians actually remember what it was like before the EU and can compare how things are after joining. That's why you get people like
Xavier Smith
>Your future is to become dependent on foreign money, give up sovereignty in exchange and hope your economy will rebound in a globalist system? Yes. As for the sovereignty, we didn't have one to begin with. We're small enough to make it easy for any global power to influence us. If it stops being the Russians then the Americans directly step in and usurp their throne as backdoor puppet masters. All the capital that is supposed to cause growth is leeched indirectly by insanely expensive state projects by the companies of whatever puppetmaster assumes control. Quite unironically, the EU is the only "puppet master" that not only doesn't leech money but also actually gives us, and in addition, boosts our GDP due to the open trade with the rest of the EU
A "sovereign" Bulgaria's future is to keep spreading its asshole to Russia and the US in cycles, an EU member Bulgaria's future is spreading its asshole to Germany at the benefit of at least getting some growth. I'd take the latter
Justin Mitchell
Bulgarians are apathetic and ignorant. if they see gibsmedat and free travel from the EU they will not be able to comprehend the fact that the EU is going to start enforcing laws in BG.
Also who is not aware that Bulgaria existed for 1400 years and in a lot of those prospered without the EU.
Isaac Miller
Just you wait for the nigger quotas. Not only Bulgaria will be spreading it's asshole, as you put it, for it's puppet master. You will be doing it for Jamal.
Colton Ross
>Bulgaria existed for 1400 years and in a lot of those prospered without the EU >what happened in the middle ages has any correlation with events transpiring today >counting the 700 years under foreign rule >counting Great Old Bulgaria
Nathan Bailey
Well I suppose you're right about that, there's very little I would consider only "made possible" through the EU that wouldn't have been possible through other trade unions that involved less central bureaucracy and legislation. I mean, the whole issue with the EU is how out of hand it has gotten and how it's centralizing power. We got the better end of the deal with the Euro because we are a lot like Germany and the currency is doing good work for us. But as for domestic trade inside Europe, yeah I don't see how the EU is necessary. I was around long before the Euro got implemented and it gives national economies a lot more flexibility, especially those that revolve more around manufacturing and energy resources.
Also, what is this talk of our national government blaming everything on the EU? Have you not been listening to Rutte and Pechtold and Klaver the past years? The Dutch got a nice deal out of the EU, generally, but are bleeding sovereignty like crazy and the immigration push makes it unavoidably obvious to the people.
Jose Evans
From what I can tell, Vazrazhdane is anti-refugee and pretty strongly nationalist, even if they are not directly anti-EU.
Jayden Hernandez
Would the average person be happy with openly anti-gypsy, anti-Turk parties?
Alexander Rodriguez
Thanks for the answers bros. I think I'm getting the gist of things. It's still hard to wrap my head around the national governments being even worse than the EU in terms of corruption. I suppose the globalist flavor is a bit more "skim off the top with bureaucracy" instead of overt "let's make a deal for infrastructure/energy with our buddies in industry". Sucks that you're in this position, although I still can't help but wonder if more control over your currency wouldn't help. It would make it easier for other countries to invest in you directly, if the government allows projects to be negotiated with them only as an intermediary. And there would be absolutely no EU laws implemented in Bulgaria.
So are the /beg/ people not yet decided on nationalists vs pro-EU neoliberals as /ourguys/ ? I would like to board the meme train.
Ian Gomez
Yes. Only turbo-leftists who have never interacted with a gypsy like them. The rest of the nation actively despises them. A lot of people have had something stolen by gypsies.
Turks are alright if they are law-abiding and don't stir up shit.
ATAKA (right wing populist) marketed itself this way and it work.
Juan Stewart
bump
Dominic Cook
>I imagine this is related to being convinced they need EU capital to keep their economy afloat That's only part of it. A smallish part. Let me illustrate what being a commie country meant >no trade/commercial law because planned economy >no small entrepreneur class >no consumer protection laws because comrade-citizens have nothing to complain about glorious planned goods >no environmental protection laws because glorious planned economy needs none >no financial laws to enable/encourage investment because investment is dirty capitalist evil >no labour laws because in glorious communist society all workers are happy by default >no anti-corruption laws because the Party is pure EU gave us all the laws.
And it's a damn good thing it did, our fucking national politicians would not be able to come up with anything working. Example, a MP recently proposed a law for the preservation of the Bulgarian language: the law was full of grammatical mistakes...
>how industry-heavy the Bulgarian economy is Was in the commie day. Collapsed overnight when free market competition showed up because it was inefficient and only propped up the Iron Curtain tariffs and embargos. Now our economy is propped up by things we actually good at: tourism (beautiful nature) software engineers (lots of bright young lads) agriculture (incredibly fertile soil) manual labour in foreign owned factories (lots of people desperate enough to work for 240 Euros a month)
Charles Ward
>nigger quotas No nigger wants to stay here. Also, the EU globalist would need 2-3 solid generations (by 2060-70) of brainwashing to undo the lowkey racism in society. And by then automatization would equalize the living standards, destroyed the need for cheap labour and the first world population would be completely mongrelized and brainwashed anyways.
>It's still hard to wrap my head around the national governments being even worse than the EU in terms of corruption The bulgarian government IS corruption. It's reached some post-ironic levels where the prime minister is literally a former mafia enforcer and half the nat assembly is made of internal security informants.
Dominic Sullivan
this actually everything else is delusions
Jaxson Myers
I know that me and few other anons are behind the small party Vazrazhdane. This is their manifesto in English.
Goals and programme of the "Vazrazhdane" (Revival) Political Party
1. Repealing Decree №208 for long-term settlement of refugees in Bulgaria. Drastic measures against crime.
2. Revision of all privatization and concession deals and criminal liability for all guilty parties.
3. Property checks for all high politicians - ministers, MPs, magistrates. Taking away illegally acquired property. Removing political immunity from MPs. MPs can be recalled. Cutting the number of MPs in half. Majority-based voting system. MP salary equal to the avarage national salary.
4. Removal of state subsidies for political parties. Referendums for all important questions.
5. Immediate recalculation of pensions. Coefficient for time served should be increased from 1.1 to 1.5 percent. Removal of taxes for doctor's visits, removal of hospital surcharges.
6. Criminal liability for decisions made by collective organs. If the Government, the Parliament, the Municipal Council or the Trial Chamber make a criminal decision, they should be treated as an organized criminal group and be subjected to heightened criminal liability.
7. Withdrawal of Bulgarian military participation in missions abroad. Redirecting the resources towards improving emergency medical care.
8. Laws against speculation. Criminal liability for cartels and handing out unsecured loans. Removal of VATs for medicine and books. Reduction of VATs for fuel and essential foods. Laws for encouraging investments.
9. Revival of the Bulgarian community center with a special law. Revival of the Bulgarian village with a return to traditional Bulgarian farming and livestock breeding. Creation of a state fund for aiding the Bulgarian peasant.
What election did ATAKA compete in last? Why are they now part of UP?
Benjamin Wilson
>although I still can't help but wonder if more control over your currency wouldn't help I believe that it's actually the opposite - every individual Bulgarian should aim at forcing the government to adopt the Euro by meeting the requirements as soon as possible, because if control over our currency is stripped from our politicians then control over what they can corrupt is drastically reduced.
If I had to pic the "best" form of government for our current situation I'd probably go with radical libertarianism - reduce taxes as much as possible and eliminate most forms of welfare, so the government can't pretend to "give out" welfare and just steal the capital in corruption, which will drastically increase foreign investments in us, and allow guns. That's pretty much what it would take to bring Bulgaria to somewhat EU standards over the next decade
Brandon Wood
Do you view corruption as the biggest issue in Bulgarian politics?
Points 3 and 4 seem good for that.
Ayden Turner
This list is nice and all, but >Vazrazhdane Literally a meme. Might get some 10-20k votes and 0/240 seats but nothing more.
Wyatt Powell
Good luck Bulgaria sama! Take My Energy!
Kayden Fisher
>Do you view corruption as the biggest issue in Bulgarian politics? Absolutely. Even the pro-EU party, the least corrupt of them all, manipulated the cost of the EU-funded highways to such insane levels that basically half of the allocated budget simply (((vanished)))
Evan Nelson
>It's still hard to wrap my head around the national governments being even worse than the EU in terms of corruption. It's the absolute truth.
Would you believe that in 27+ years of """democracy""" not one former commie, not one current politician has ever been convicted of corruption? Even some EU apartchiks have been convicted but not one Bulgarian, ever.
And it not because there is no corruption in Bulgaria...
Angel Ward
People tell me that normies are fairly redpilled on stuff like that, and exposure would be enough to win votes for the party.
Surely it would be best to get more people to vote for them, rather than supporting UP who will just prop up GERB at the same time.
Jacob Perez
Would you consider voting for the party I posted? I'm sounding like a shill but I feel like they could make serious change.
Levi Taylor
The goal is clearly impossible.
Who would you rather vote for, though?
That's the point of the Vazrazhdane pill. To make a dent in elections.
Brayden Taylor
They're basically libertarian minus the open anti-EU stance. If there was a pro-EU libertarian party (not (((GERB))) ) that also had at least some chance to win, I'd vote for them
Jose Sullivan
This.
I feel like they are going to be held back by people thinking 'but there's no chance they can win'.
Charles Allen
I see what you mean, but you all have to realize that the EU will not be the solution to your ailments right? More countries have come out the communist coma with their economies destroyed and their governments corrupt to the bone. The EU cash tit is nice to suck for a while but without competent local government things will stay bad. It's a meme over here in the western parts that our tax money evaporates in the pockets of eastern european politicians. At the very least you would hope for a sentiment in the Bulgarian population that the EU strictures are contingent on strong anti-corruption laws and possibly some prosecution. Heck, maybe even finally throw some goddamn ex-commies in prison retroactively.
But anyway, the message in this thread is clear that any EU fuckery is worth the hope of cleaning out your politics, even the Euro. I guess I hope we all realize how fucked up that is and how bad of a long-term strategy. The EU is not benevolent, does not have your interests at heart, and only exists to get more money out of the Bulgarian economy. That this happens to align with straightening out satire-tier corruption is only a short-term alliance... The Bulgarian people somehow has to produce decent politicians eventually, and control their own economy. Things will get worse eventually otherwise, you'll lose yourselves to globalist overlords in a few decades
Ethan Cook
>exposure would be enough to win votes for the party As I said, no. No amount of exposure can generate enough votes for more than a token seat in the nat-ass. Not in 7 days. Also, most of the points listed are pipe dreams that outright cannot be implemented or would need a 2/3 majority to pass constitutional amendment (which is impossible to get)
>The goal is clearly impossible. No, it isn't. The'd get bombed, shot at, abducted, "suicided" before they manage to convict any "deep state" old timer commies of anything >Who would you rather vote for, though? I don't vote for things I cannot objectively influence. Either Party X gets 1,245,435 votes without my vote or it gets 1,245,436 with it(for example).
Jose Cook
Wouldn't one seat and good intentions be a good base for a small party?
Jaxon Ross
>I don't vote for things I cannot objectively influence. You are saying that you are only voting if your guy 100% wins? This is partly because we are in this state, my friend.
I used to think like you, but this apathy brought me literally nothing. Every vote matters and we can make a definite state.
If you don't want to vote 14, please go and send an invalid ballot. It still matters in the grand scheme of things.
Justin Jones
>The EU cash tit Oh come on. We get 800m euro pocket money per year. That's literally nothing on a national, not to mention continental scale.
>The EU is not benevolent, does not have your interests at heart At least it's a lawful evil. We have chaotic evil currently stealing, bribing, wrecking everything.
>you'll lose yourselves to globalist overlords in a few decades Too late for that. We already do whatever Washington/Brussels say.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
Thanks user. That's quite an impressive list of anti-corruption efforts. Very difficult to weigh the benefits of such a smaller party against the possibly more immediate threat of economic stagnation without foreign money. Part of me wishes that they'd get some support, if only to get more exposure and hopefully grow into competent politicians. What you don't want is another establishment cartel that rules your country for the next 3 decades as proxy for the EU. But the Bulgarians don't seem too excited about it so far.
Nathan Morgan
The only one pushing anti-corruption laws, for their enforcement is the EU. Believe it or not but the EU bureaucrats are also annoyed when 90% of all the gibs they give disappear without trace. It's this outside influence that is the only hope for reform in Bulgaria.
It's not so much about the money, it hasn't made a huge difference so far. It's the fact the EU keep humiliating the national politicians every time a new report on anti-corruption efforts is published. EU keeps insisting Bulgaria get its shit together. This is what we value about the EU.
Latest report literally said Bulgaria needs foreign prosecutors and foreign judges to apply the anti-corruption laws. Public opinion supports this. It's the scumbag national politicians that keep blocking it from happening. Literally not one person convicted in 27 years and the filth still keeps insisting we need """sovereignty""" in our justice system. Fuck that. Bring on the EU police, EU prosecutors, EU judges, EU prisons and EU army.
Grayson Fisher
I feel like Bulgaria will end up with a GERB government propped up by UP anyway. If I were in Bulgaria, I'd vote for the smaller party (they're 14th on the ballot, I believe?) to try and gain them some exposure and attention.
Jason Garcia
>The Bulgarian people somehow has to produce decent politicians eventually, and control their own economy. Things will get worse eventually otherwise, you'll lose yourselves to globalist overlords in a few decades That is true, hence why I claim that every form of state intervention in the economy (including printing money, welfare, state projects and so on) has to either be drastically reduced or vanish. If one stable and non-corrupt party wins today, the old corrupt ones will win tomorrow and will leech whatever is up for leeching anyway, so that ability has to be revoked from them at all costs.
Technically, Bulgaria has close to no expenditures - other than minimum healthcare, unemployment subsidies and some state infrastructure here and there, there is ZERO other need for spending - we neither need a military, nor welfare, nor a fleet, nor pretty much anything else the bigger countries need - all of that surplus budget collected for anything other than the above is manipulated in some way and always finds its way to the pocket of some corrupt faggot. Furthermore, reducing the taxes to prevent such corruption also benefits our economy, massively at that, and might as well turn our country into the Taiwan of Europe. For an example, currently our IT sector is the fastest growing sector in the EU.
>tl;dr - as long as we're in the EU and are able to attract its capital, and only if we reduce our taxes to do so, Bulgaria will actually have a very bright future
Robert Thompson
>Wouldn't one seat and good intentions be a good base for a small party? Not really. The corruption here is so severe that if you dont have at least 30-40 seats in order to form blocks with other parties and push your agenda through political manipulation, you are invisible and insignificant. Just like how "independent" ass. members just read newspapers for 4 years.
>You are saying that you are only voting if your guy 100% wins? This is partly because we are in this state, my friend. No, I'm saying that my vote doesn't matter statistically.
>I used to think like you, but this apathy brought me literally nothing. Well, my grandfather has voted on all elections since 1990 for Vazrajdane-type parties that promise the world and what did it bring him in the long run- 200 euro pension.
Blake White
Well yes, I didn't mean to suggest it was all that much, just a bit of mild shaming banter desu. I commiserate with your malevolent brand of corrupt politicians, and I don't mean to derail your threads memeing for a small nationalist party. You all might be right that the EU is by far the best strategy to clear up your state. It just scares me for the long-term, as I have faith post-commie Bulgarians can decide their own future eventually. It's not a good construction to have federal hands in your local government with subsidy leverage.
Parker Roberts
I mean, obviously, you know better than me, but if you are not going to vote, is it not better to vote for a small party with good intentions? In a worst case scenario, you won't lose anything, except for half an hour at the polling station.
Kayden Barnes
>It's not a good construction to have federal hands in your local government with subsidy leverage.
This, a 1000 times.
Whoever gives the money - they order the music!
Bulgarians always wait for foreigners and they are being so for a lot of time.
It's kind of like your population wants to be invaded cause the state still hasn't shaken its corrupt Party nature. Really puts our bitching about the EU in perspective. I'm gonna hold on to my hope that the Bulgarian people can manage on their own eventually though. You can attract foreign capital with a controlled currency and low taxes anyway, obviously you don't need the EU's planning and bureaucracy for that. But companies won't ever clean house in your government, so that's that. Good luck containing the EU beast mates.
Brandon Williams
>Whoever gives the money - they order the music! Well, Germoney (the EU) needs a market to sell its goods and a transit network to Asia Minor, meaning that making us poorer and disregarding our infrastructure is a direct negative to them. If anything, EU technocrats would seek to destroy local corruption as to pave the way for their own brand or simply to create higher consimption for industrial goods.
Luis Morgan
>EU technocrats Stop calling them technocrats. The EU is not a technocracy. A technocracy is a technologically-oriented government, as opposed to the commonly-accepted meme "a government of people with PhDs"
techno-cracy - technological governance. A technocratic EU would be colonizing space right now.
t. pro-technocracy lad
James Murphy
GER don't need US to prosper, just good roads. You said it yourself.
We can and should use our geo location to our advantage, not to give up sovereignty for gibs.
See attach the GIBS though. 40%. Big fucking whoop.
How are Serbia living not in the EU?
Thomas Gomez
That's true but they will never ever care about Bulgarian interests, only so far as they play out well for the EU. They might be good for removing corruption now, but there is no reason to think they are going to be more effective at running the Bulgarian economy than locals would be, provided they could get rid of corrupt politicians. What you really want is a strong local government that represents its people and negotiates contracts with foreign (and domestic) companies for infrastructure and energy, for example. And if you keep taxes low they will most certainly come. The thing is that, like you ex-commie states should certainly understand, even if the EU is more competent and less corrupt, they are still centralized and bureaucratic. They are organizers, not attack-dogs on your interests' behalf. This makes it so that you'll want to get rid of them once you feel confident enough in your local politicians, and they won't be happy about that.
Austin Baker
>If anything, EU technocrats would seek to destroy local corruption as to pave the way for their own brand or simply to create higher consimption for industrial goods. the German Chamber of Commerce in Bulgaria had a hilarious statement for 2017 >flat tax rate very nice, keep it >low price of labour, very nice keep it up >but we also want the government to increase the purchasing power of Bulgarians, right now it's not worth producing anything for the local market >corruption very bad, no safety for long term investments >no transport infrastructure despite billions in gibs to develop it, step up efforts immediately
Corruption is so bad in Bulgaria it actively harms globalisation.
Aaron Thomas
This is a very pertinent point. Bulgarian interests will never matter to the EU, only German, French and maybe Italian.
Isaiah Brooks
>No nigger wants to stay here. Is this your argument? Not THE FACT that they will be imported here? They are animals. Cockroaches. They will stay everywhere. I see them working at local shops.
Also there are a lot of modern bulgarian THOTS that will date them just to be edgy and get pregnant and WHAT is your argument now?
Nathaniel Clark
>How are Serbia living not in the EU?
Almost 20% worse than us compared to when we were equal before the EU
Jordan Walker
Haha that's a great example.
"Of course you will never be allowed any sort of protectionist laws for your labor wages, keep em low goyim! And corruption is bad because it ruins investments, not because the people get fucked over. Oh and also give the Bulgarian more purchasing power even though we have the Euro on lockdown and it's literally impossible for you to do that unless we give gibs to the people so they can buy our export. Right now you are too poor to sell anything to."
Fuck me. I can't imagine what the Bulgarians politicians sell to the people that's even worse. They must have completely tuned out by now...
Christian Hernandez
20% is a small price to pay for sovereignty Anyway, look, I hope we can both acknowledge that there are good and bad sides of the EU and move on from the topic, deal?
Lets get back on the topic of party 14 Vazrazhdane.
Again I'd say you should really consider supporting it, because literally every candidate has proven to be a shill, worthless, criminal, etc. This is a punishing vote for the big guys and a noticeable blip a party that will never get into parliament anyway.
Dominic Butler
>provided they could get rid of corrupt politicians This is impossible. Only way is to wait for every politican born after 1970 to retire by 2040.
>organizers That's what we need senpai. We're currently living in a "organized anarchy" where it's perfectly acceptable for politicans to steal hundreds of millions without repercussion.
>the German Chamber of Commerce in Bulgaria had a hilarious statement for 2017 Sounds reasonable and staigthforward, tвh. If only we had a band of krauts to actually do something about it.
Levi Johnson
>Sounds reasonable and staigthforward, tвh. The only ridiculous part (a big part honestly) is insisting to keep wages small and then somehow increase the purchasing power of the slave-workers...
Bulgarian minimal wage is 230 EUR btw.
Leo Garcia
>20% is a small price to pay for sovereignty That's 4 years ago. Our growth has been quite relevant over the past 4 years, so I'd say that it's closer to 30-35% nowadays, and will compound until we effectively de-EasternEurope ourselves and get a normal European economy, while they'll remain right next to Ukraine in ranking.
Jacob Brooks
>Serbia >sovereignty
Benjamin Nguyen
Bulgaria is an irrelevant backwater shithole of Gypsies and Turks. The Slavic man lost his hold of the country long ago. There's a reason why there's such large diaspora of Bulgars around the world but the population of the actual country itself is declining. Bulgaria is a shitskin country and will probably vote communist/socialist party.
Jack Roberts
*stock market crashes, causing the nation to erupt in a second civil war*
Liam Davis
I hate Ratko as much as the next Bulgarian and they are consistently getting screwed, but when they keep the islamists down with force, no EU is breathing down their necks
multiculti is very much a thing and they WILL force it
Bulgarian Helsinki Kommittee is a thing
not helping senpai
Carson Peterson
The likelihood is that it will go to GERB, propped up by UP, a centre-right party backed by a right wing one.
Grayson Sanchez
I'm sorry about that bulgaria bro. This has been an insightful thread. Hope you sort yourselves out and get rid of the corrupt while staving off globalist abuse. What a line to walk..
Mason Cox
Пичoвe cтpyвa ли cи дa хoдя дo Лoндoн чaк дa глacyвaм или пaк ce знae чe ГEPБ щe cи кyпят вcичкитe глacoвe?
>but when they keep the islamists down with force >meanwhile, kosovo exists
>Bulgarian Helsinki Kommittee Is a meme
Meh, I'm probably going to off myself soon so whatever. 80% of bulgarians are subhuman and need to stop existing. Maybe we should become the new jews (we already have 4m diaspora with (basically those that have any brains))
>ГEPБ He cи cтpyвa. Tи тaкa или инaчe cи нaпycнaл пoтъвaщия кopaб (нe гo кaзвaм кaтo oтpицaтeлнo). Квo ти пyкa? Te caмo БCПтo дa ги нe кyпят чe щe зeмaт дa мaхнaт плocкия дaнък и нa инвecтициитe кaзвaмe бaй-бaй.
Nathaniel Edwards
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Jordan Hughes
That list is absolute bullshit and predicts linear growth, which is retarded
Japan's economy scales with that of China for numerous reasons, so a fucking 15 year-long stagnation of 5tril GDP while China's multiplies is retarded. Additionally, Brazil will be at least 5tril minimum by 2030 due to their geopolitical location alone, the UK will be less (obviously) and South Korea's tech bubble will pop. Also, Erdogan's policies are murdering the Turkish economy so there's no fucking way it will go from 0.7 to 2.4.
>tl;dr - retarded linear predictions
Anthony Ramirez
Дaвaйтe мoмчeтa, нямaмe oщe мнoгo вpeмe.
Зa пъpви път щe глacyвaм и aз. Кpaй нa бeзpaзличиeтo.
Noah Gonzalez
Toгaвa въпpoca e зa кoгo дa глacyвaм. Teзи възpaждaнe щe cи пpизнaя чe зa пъpви път ги чyх ceгa, oтдaвнa cъм cпpял дa cлeдя пoлитикa в Бългapия. Heщo кaтo ATAКA пpeди 5-6 гoдини ли ca?
Asher Thompson
>Teзи възpaждaнe щe cи пpизнaя чe зa пъpви път ги чyх ceгa И aз тaкa, пpeдcтaвa cи нямaм кaкви ca. Чyдeх ce мeждy Hoвa Peпyбликa или Дa Бългapия пoнeжe ги cъбoтиpaхa изключитeлнo нeлeпo oщe oт нaчaлoтo, тoecт дpaзнят някoй якo и мoжe би щe paзклaтят нeщaтa. Aкo нe бяхa тe, Пиpин щeшe вeчe дa e пpoдaдeн oт cлyжeбнoтo пpaвитeлcтвo.
James Carter
Изглeждaт мнoгo пo-чиcти зaщoтo дoceгa нe ca били в кaлтa и нe ca тoлкoвa пoпyлиcтки/cкaндaлни, a пpивличaт глacoвe caмo oт хopa кoитo ce интepecyвaт.
Aз щe глacyвaм зa тях зaщoтo нe ca дoкaзaни пpecтъпници, кoмyниcти и пpoчиe cвoлoч, (((цeнтъp-дecни))), нитo copocoиди, кaквитo ce paзкpихa нacкopo мнoгo движeния нa Бaлкaнитe.
Пpoгpaмкaтa (oт cтpaницaтa им) ми дoпaдa мнoгo.
Oбщo взeтo:
>иcкaм дa глacyвaм >вcички ca бoклyци >тeзи нe ca (в мoитe oчи)
Jace Brooks
>>Oбщo взeтo: >>иcкaм дa глacyвaм >>вcички ca бoклyци >>тeзи нe ca (в мoитe oчи) Дoбpи кpитepии, глacyвaй пo cъвecт пък пocлe cъдбaтa щe пoкaжe кoй e пpaв.
James Harris
>пpoгpaмaтa им ми дoпaдa Ha мeн cъщo, тoкy щo я пpoчeтoх, мнoгo libertarian opиeнтиpaнa Пpиятнo cъм изнeнaдaн, a peaлнo кaкви шaнcoвe имaт, гoвopят ли хopaтa зa тях или пpocтo ce нaдявaмe дa ca глacнa oпoзиция нa кoйтo щe e кaбинeтa
Isaiah Martin
Имaм лoшo пpeдчyвcтвиe oт "Дa Бългapия" кaтo им глeдaм мapкeтингa, cpaвнитeлнo пpaзнитe oбeщaния, кaктo и кoгaтo гoвopeх c пpeдcтaвитeли(кoитo caми кaзaхa, чe нa зaкoннo нивo нe ca oбeщaли нищo, и чe тoвa им e мнeниeтo), cъбиpaщи пoдпиcи. Зa "Hoвa Peпyбликa" нe cъм ги пpoyчвaл кoй знae кoлкo, нo гoвopят г/д дoбpи нeщa зa пo-ниcки тaкcи и пo-мaлкo пpaвитeлcтвo, нo виждaм дocтa хopa дa ce oплaквaт, чe пaк имa cтapи кyчeтa тaм.
Leo Richardson
This is an English board lads. You feel bad when the Turkish guys speak Turkish between themselves in front of you and you can't understand them, right? Don't be hypocrites, speak English so the rest of the board can understand you
Hunter Reed
Vazrazhdane is a communist shill party and the OP is a massive faggot and a traitor. Please ignore him.
Thete are no /ourguys/ this ellection. All the so called patriots are proven fakes.
Дa ти eбa мaйкaтa мeкepe нищacтнo, aкo тe знaя кoй cи щe ядeш як бoй. Пpeдaтeл. Бoклyк.
Nolan Watson
How are they a communist shill party in any way?
Ryder Wood
>lower taxes >smaller government >communist ayy lmao
Isaiah Watson
Shows how much you know about our politics diaspora cuck. You took the bait of the commies, stop fucking shilling about things you don't understand and stop polluting my board.
If you make a thread don't shill in the fucking opening post. It's basic decency. Either be impartial as OP or kys.
Jordan Carter
Commie shills get out of my board reeee
Dominic Ross
> diaspora cuck Not diaspora, just an interested foreigner
> my board I audibly kek'd
> be impartial as OP >>>Reddit
Jonathan Rodriguez
I'd like to know too though. Got a quick rundown?
Caleb Young
Fucking idiot. I won't dignify this shill thread with more bumps.
