How to make mexico pay for the wall

Solar panels should be considered, since solar incidence at the border is yuge, covering the wall with panels would make mexico 'technically' pay for it.

No, how about that , brazil-bro ?

And i mean it with all due respect to you, but we have to take an instance in this case, and althoutg it is a good idea from the economical stand-point, it would put us into a hyper-vassal state of the usa , so we cannot allow that.

did you read the news? US gonna pay for the Wall.

Well, you will end up paying for it, liking or not.

Either we stand up to the usa or we lose what little dignity as a sovereing state we had before.

All or nothing, baby.

The wall is going up either way.
The cartel will still find a way around it.

From a brazilians point of view there's nothing much south america can do but bow to our god emperor trump, he's the only one that can purge this communist/socialist
governments and open peoples eyes so they don't trust the (((media))).

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>Mexico
>Any dignity
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAAH

Checked.

1 solar sucks
2 solar panels on the wall would probably costs as much as two walls
3 the mexicans would just steal/break them

But wouldn't the cost be reduced by the energy production?

this is a bait thread

Dont get me wrong Brazil-bro , i dont have anything against Mr Trumps policies, its their country and they can do whatever they want with it , but the truth is this event is quick way of demostrating to the whole wolrd tha the usa "means it".

And i truly believe is a good measure for the USA, is just we dont have to pay for, and we wont pay for it now, later, in the future or in other theoretical dimensions.

We might be a shithole, but its OUR shithole and nobody tells us what to do or not to do in it. As , in , every other nation in the world would do the same. Unless you count Sweden.

Well i hope not, point to the good ones, compa.

Take the oil

see 1 & 3

Your sovereignty was given to the cartels.

Mining the minerals (cadmium and tellurium) needed ends up strip mining and creating a similar amount of environmental destruction as the oil sands
Processing and Manufacturing the panels creates tons of toxic chemicals
Then you have maintenance required costs which requires potentially more of the above
And you have to replace them every now and then because believe it or not, having panels in areas with wind/particles in the atmosphere etc. damages them
Which means go through the first two again
Its expensive as fuck

Nevermind
>it takes up a ton of space - arguably more than coal/oil/natural gas/hydroelectric/nuclear
>its not efficient enough to meet needs
>batteries aren't sufficient enough advanced
>solar mirrors require heat engines/generators in order to convert thermodynamic energy to mechanical to electrical
>all of which cost significant amounts of money, have varying efficiency, require cooling, and maintenance frequently

God forbid they use Gallium Arsenide which is used for high efficiency cells.

>covering the wall with panels would make mexico 'technically' pay for it.
how would that be mexico paying you retard?

By all means, convince your people your country is awesome and they wouldn't want to go to the US, anyway.

Operation Fast & Furious, anyone?

I'd rather put reflective mirrors pointing towards the ground that would vaporize anything in their way.

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sounds overly complicated desu, but thanks for trying to help

Think a little more my eurofriend, you can do it.

Brutal Truth by digits there, user. Brutal.

I hope that would work , but it is a complex issue. Again, its your country man, if they are illegals, deport them. i hope my government takes measures to stop the flow of ilegal inmigrants and starts creating an internal market for them.

But it could also be wishfull thinking from my part, as i am simple citizen in this gargantuan machine we all call Mexico.

your country is overrun by cartels. your government is bought out by cartels. you blame the usa for these things yet you claim to have dignity. you're just a typical subhuman who can't fathom that your situation is the result of your own making

>solar meme
Mexico's going to be paying with cash from their illegals and American exports.

>Promise citizenship to any Mexican that builds the wall
>Deport them and ban them from the country for life when it's finished

Dude go and read this book by Bood Woodward, Veil, The Secret Wars of the CIA, 1981-1987, and then tell me what you just wrote to my face without laughing. I double dare. Again, please dont take it personally ,i dont have anything againts the usa,mexico it just a very complicated deal that a wall will not be able to fix.

>Implying antifa wont throw bricks at the solar panels and make them useless

You're not getting out of this one Pedro. If it wasn't for your complete ineptitude when dealing with those cartel cunts, fast and furious would have never happened.

Dude , drop this cartoon network attitude "i am the Park Ranger , you are Yogi the Bear" attitude, you wanted the dope , you got it, baby, dont come here all high and sanctonimious , and the last time i checked with my local narco , they had Colts , which i believe is an American brand , please, embargo them because one of their products fall into their hands "by mistake".

Grow up, kiddo.

>actually looks up how much solar panels cost instead of a wall and a few hundred snipers
Ahhhhhhhh ok im done

LOL , you wish, Steven Seagal.

Were not letting you turn America into a mass grave site so fuck you, you can come paint my house and pick my lettuce when you sign up to do so.

Bruh i don't even have my p.c and im about to mop the floor with you like Martha did just now.
>she got them papers tho

OR... OR,
We just kill all the Mexicans and take their land.
The land could be stripped and sold.
We pay for the wall with the profit and still have money leftover.
There is no flaw in this logic, prove me wrong.

Bruh we could gather the illegals have them build the wall. First 85% to take a nap or ask where the microwave is to heat up theit taquitos gets shot , in the head. The rest can finish the wall and stay but cannot repopulate. I live in California and some neighborhoods have upwards of 9 cars out front.
>wonder why they have problems

As in you , in personally or as in a global-cover all you = mexico? Because blaming ME for the actions of my fellow citizens , is kind of harsh, yo.

Painting houses and picking up lettuces are fine, honest jobs, plus you work out outside. Plus LEGAL migration is still and will always be allowed whats not to like to it?

What you have to get into your noggin is this , i cannot take the blame for the actions of my fellow asshole citizens. but we as in everyone here in Mexico, can stop the flow of this assholes, thats something that we have to achieve as a nation.

You Put Americans In A Box Too Buddy. >checks bag for bad skittles

There is no flaw in your logic , you are just a genocidal murderer asshole for just suggesting it. Back to town jail with you, Cleetus.

>what little dignity as a sovereing state we had before
you mean zero?

Pal ,i am not denaying there is a big percentage of illegal criminals in the USA the come from Mexico, thats a FACT.

What i can tell you is this , the wall is good for both countries, you get a safe perimeter, us in our case , turn to develop an internal market for our products, put the asshole in jail and create new induestries here , because we no longer have an easy way out in the USA.

Whats not to like about it ?

Literally all we have to do is tax remittances. This kills the Mexican economy.

It also will probably get about half of the mestizos to self-deport.

Bonus round: Trump is likely to do this since he doesn't like money leaving the country

Che, pero si eres un pelotudo ,tu que tenes que opinar en estos asuntos, cara de naipe! Negro!

Just like the sanctions "killed" the Russian economy ? give me a break, remittances are just a small drop in the bucket, and thats mainly an issue for poor people, you can always open a bank account and make a digital transfer or if you are tech savy, a bitcoin transaction.

I like your attitude.

what if we cover the sky above mexico with helium filled solar panels so they pay for the wall with their own sunlight

>There is no flaw in this logic, prove me wrong.
There's a very glaring flaw there.
Why are you selling the land? You give the land away to niggers and turn America into an ethnostate.

I have a hard time seeing illegals using bank accounts

I guess you're right about remittances to Mexico, it's "only" 2% of your GDP. I'm curious about how much of our tax dollars are sent to other South American refuse, though. Fucking Colombians.

Thanks men, instead of having issues with the Trump administration , we should concentrate in what i posted , instead of whining like little bitches because we no longer have the American titty to suck from, thats the truth, at least for the ones who go illegally, and did not learned english, the laws,culture and most importantly, who did behaved like a mongrel. Fuck those guys, here or there.

as long as your shit country wants to lick the boots of our economy, mexico will likely do whatever the fuck the u.s. tells it.

have fun eating your pride beaner. too bad most your countrymen haven't any, that's why they all flee to the u.s.

What i find ironic, is that the cost to go illegally to the USA is around $ 50,000 to 70,000 pesos per person.

When yo go to the American consulate and you start the process to go to the USA, you will need a bank account with at least 50,000 pesos in it, to be solvent in your trip. You will need of course to follow other documents and criterias, but you can iniate eveything legaly from here, without going all the way to tijuana, in a really dangerous trip.

Obviously much butt-hurt would ensue, but i think, in worse case, we can manage a lower income from that 2%. Beats me men, but you got an ass-load of colombians, brazilians ecuatorians etc in your country, i bet they have even higher % of their GDP tied into the remittances.

Why would it cost that much money to come here illegally? Is it all charges associated with getting fake IDs? I'm sure it's worth it if so since illegals can work and get unemployment gibs at same time due to no records

You mean if i buy an Iphone , i am "Lick(ing) the boots of (the usa ) economy".

Shit guys, and here i thought i was the one in power with the money in my wallet. Silly me!

You have to take in mind the cost of transportation from home state to the border,food beverages, bribes if you have criminal records, fake documents like passport , green card, etc and then a trip from the border area to several points in the USA.

The mexican won this discussion. I now understand why they won't pay for the wall and respect that.

To be honest it enrages me to see my fellow citizen follow the almighty buck, you can have an honest, good, decent life here, albeit with hardships.

But fucking rappers had to shit all up. Fucking celebrities and their Maseratis.

Which American writer said that the reason homeless people dont advance , is because they believe they are millionaries-in-a-bad-streak ? That can apply to my fellow citizens, those who go anywhere in the world, following the money, not the people, nor its culture. Just the quick buck.

LOL, thanks for the words, Denmark- bro, i might come as little hard-ass or know-it-all, but really, we as a country have to take a position, a legal one, a moral one, and stick to it, and yes the grapes will sour, but just for a while.

I believe this 3 insane nigger-like-countries, USA, Canada, and Mexico, should make up what ever differences we have and start working together because MUH CHINESE , and MUH RUSSIA are starting to kick our collective asses.