Matter can only produce emergent properties. Emergent properties don't exist; that is, they only exist as ideas. There is no such thing as mind-independent, objective emergent properties, in the same way there is no such thing as mind-independent, objective information. Only the mind gives these things meaning. The mind exists; this is self-evident. Thus the mind isn't an emergent property. Thus the mind can't be produced by matter. Thus the mind is immaterial. Computers can't produce immaterial things. Thus computers can't produce minds.
It can be deduced, not just induced, that matter cannot produce consciousness, because there is no such objective thing as "emergent properties." An electron, or any number of electrons, passing between an number of points, in any permutation, through any combination or permutation of mediums, cannot produce consciousness, because of the simple fact that matter is never objectively more than its parts.
Anthony Gomez
If it is possible, we will create it. And with that power, we will eradicate niggers worldwide
Liam Miller
points don't exist we wavefront now
Camden Sanders
Therefore man and his mind is a creation of something extra materialistic... Such as God.
Henry Brown
Niggers were put on this earth to harden and push the white man to go even further beyond their natural limits. We will conquer this challenge and join our mentors in shaping this universe to be an unending paradise.
Jason Powell
Of course true AI will never be developed, but it's fun to watch a bunch of billionaires and techies be completely wrong. It's nothing new, all economic inventions have a degree of lies attached to them.
Adam Lopez
Wrong, niggers are fucking disease. We made huge fucking mistake bringing those fuckers with us to north america, and the jew has pushed this dysgenic breed for far longer than nature would have allowed.
Adam Flores
That being said. We WILL get our chance to solve this problem and it will be solved quickly
Andrew Gray
When I unplug my computer its spirit goes up to computer heaven and sleeps with the computer angels!
In this thread christfags are butthurt because the emergence of AI threatens their sky-daddy dreams.
Brandon Smith
yeah you're probably right, but we'll get to a point where "AI" is good enough, ala the chinese room
Liam Sanchez
Do you have any evidence for any of your points, or are you just going to continue spewing nonsense?
Wyatt White
What are humans but complex biological machines? It stands to reason that if you get all the components in place that make a human and assemble them together exactly like you would a human then you would get a human. No replace some of those biological components with synthetic alternatives that can emulate the same properties.
Jordan Cooper
So solipsism is true?
Christopher White
oh sweet summer child, you'll know the horrifying truth soon enough
Gavin Morales
It can happen OP, but itll take a long ass time to do so, assuming we model it after the common person's thinking and reactions and such Dont say it wont happen. it might not happen 50 to 250 years down the road, but it doesnt it cant happen.
Parker Miller
Fuck off. "Cant" and "wont" is nothing more than limitating niggerspeak.
Tyler Long
It's never been about conscious AI, that's just was scifi weebs distract with to discredit the true AI threat which is humanity being reliant on machines making decisions for them, so we can never switch off the machines without killing off humanity.
It's already started, IBM Watson now makes decisions for the Pentagon to navigate the complexities of gov purchasing regulations. Wait until we start printing off 3000 page assisted proofs that appear to work, and programs automatically program themselves to use said proofs to do such things as medical breakthroughs we can never understand or fully reason about. Now we are slaves to a machine
Jace Taylor
what is butterfly effect
Leo Morgan
It won't be conscious, but it will be able to trick you that it its
Wyatt Lopez
I'm a little more concerned about a small number of humans losing their marbles and using Azimov-cracked limited AI on a leash to visit hell on earth to a large number of humans
Nolan Thomas
And if you can't tell the difference, is there really any difference at all?
Daniel Reyes
imagine they create it and the machines will shitpost with speed of light bitching on humans and shit
Evan Sanchez
Most people understand Solipsism to mean that there is only one mind, their own, and everyone else is a zombie or something. But the Solipsism guys like Wittgenstein talked about wasn't that there's only one mind in the world, but that every mind is a world unto itself. I am literally my world. And you are your world. Our minds don't share the same space so to speak.
Gavin Davis
>Matter can only produce emergent properties. Emergent properties don't exist; that is, they only exist as ideas.
Landon Garcia
Well...
You're right that matter itself does not have properties from which intelligence emerge.
The human body is just a lump of matter. Shoot a person in the head and they are still a lump of matter which is mostly identical to the first. Two different people are made up of mostly the same types of elements and molecules.
What creates intelligence is the interactions between matter. This interaction is not currently well understood, but it seems to be a gestault: something which is more than the sum of its parts.
There is no particular reason to say intelligence cannot arrive in other matter configurations which also reach an arbitrary of complexity and emergent (gestault) status, such as in the form we familiarly know of as the computer.
However, it would not be artificial intelligence. It would be as real and valid as you or I.
Nolan Wilson
we are teaching them
Jordan Miller
UnderRated
Gabriel Miller
Again? Saw this last night and was hoping it wasn't a slide thread. Ah well
Nathan Wood
Imagine one day you vote on AI decision making company instead.
Luis Robinson
original in case you want it.
Owen Butler
YO DAWG.
Camden Hughes
youre a faaaaaaag
Jose Torres
so are yooooooooouuuuuuu
Jaxson Thompson
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Jose Walker
>We cant do it cause i said so Your ancestors were one of them niggers who didn't bealive we can into space cause god said so in a dream.
Jacob Hill
Your brain is matter. Guess where your narrow mind resides in. Conciousness is a clever illusion.