Everything will be manufactured by robots in the future, making human workers obsolete

>everything will be manufactured by robots in the future, making human workers obsolete
>unemployed people will receive a universal basic income and buy shit
Does anybody else think that this is pants on head retarded?

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Yes

I bet cows think the same thing when the are on the conveyor to the slaughterhouse

Hehehehehehehehheh politics xddddd

Yes. He is the anti-christ and responsible for much of the increased demonic activity over the last 12 months

Why not try to do that?

Because you are making yourself redundant. You'll be as necessary as an arse boil.

what if people simply refuse to buy goods made using automated production?

>everything will be manufactured by robots in the future, making human workers obsolete
>we'll slaughter you after that

It's just not as good a sell.

he makes a lot of sense
the transition period will be pretty dark though.
There will be some mass robot killings before people start getting flesh curse welfare

it looks pretty bright for future though. Basic labor jobs done by robots and people can focus on science, culture and art

This. (((They))) won't have useless eaters around gobbling down their precious profit.

They really are gonna wipe a lot of people out, aren't they Sup Forums?

And it isn't gonna be the billions of africans and asians and indians...

Well I hope they know that just killing off small groups isn't going to help them much. There are like 4 billion arabs, chinese, and indians. That alone is alarming.

>Does anybody else think that this is pants on head retarded?

It is a lie designed to keep the masses from revolting. Here is what will actually happen.

>everything will be manufactured by robots in the future, making human workers obsolete

>unemployed people will be forced into ghettos, given the bare minimum to survive and then left to rot.

The elites are tying to convince you we will all live in Star Trek but the reality will be more like Shadorun. Grinding poverty and criminality as people either give up or take desperate risks to get out of the underclass.

Fully Automated Luxury Communism is the dream of the Last Man and would mean the final death of meaning. You would be born, live a safe life with a low ceiling for 80 years, then die. Already sounds dreary and chilling. Factor in continued (at least short-term) population growth and shrinking access to fuels, rare earth metals, or even things like copper just as demand for a middle-class lifestyle explodes around the world. Most FALC theorists I've seen take for granted that we have the resources to guarantee a basic income in their particular country. However, the logical conclusion of this is that it will spread around the world. That's the whole point of the Marxist dialectic, it's meant to be inevitable. And do we have the resources to get that to 8 billion people? Shit, we're probably going to run short in the next few decades even with perfidious capitalist running dogs strategically withholding resources in anticipation of future shortages.

I know I'm replying to my own post, but:
1. If everybody's garunteed a certain amount of money, its value will go down the shitter, and nobody will be able to afford anything
2. If you're not doing anything productive, then what's the point of subsidizing your existence and reproduction? Even in a Gommunist society you have to have some sort of occupation.

you do realize that people don't actually "need" to be employed on a production line to not end up in a ghetto? if it got that bad, i'd just join a quaker village. people can self-sustain and live reasonably well.

The only guarantee is more people are going to be out of work, the ultra rich on the top are going to get wealthier, and life will generally suck.

Ever read Don't Bite the Sun by Tanith Hill?

People that buy this lie really want to be like the "jangs". the reality is is that only the rich will get anything close to that sort of life and the worst part is is that they literally lose their humanity chasing and engaging in that lifestyle of complete and total hedonism.

I will fight the fucking Commies until my last breath.

won't be much of a choice
you can try to compete, but, you know, robots

The real question is
>can you think of any way to avoid it?

profit won't really mean anything anymore

If everything was automated and peoples lives had no meaning, the decadence would spiral completely out of control and society would collapse within one generation

Universal basic income would be near required I think. IT would help the middle class out quite a bit, considering they along with the lower rung of society will lose out in this.

Think how many jobs are just someone driving for a living. Automated cars are going to take that within the decade or the next. Millions of jobs done better by a computer.

HAHAHA

YEAH THATS DUMB

BILLIONAIRES ARE ALL STARTING AI COMPANIES WITH THE ENTIRE GOAL OF CREATING SUPER HUMAN PROBLEM SOLVING MACHINES

THIS WONT WORK HAHA

STUPID BILLIONAIRES WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

Oh, sweet summer swede. Profits mean EVERYTHING to the jew, much more so than human lives. You will learn.

You guys are fucking idiots if you believe a thing Elon says, especially in public, hes working his hardest to prevent that future, hes a natsoc.

I know non of you will believe me thats fine. Just know there are very prestigious people working in our favor. (oh n he browses Sup Forums)

Godspeed anons, be safe in the coming days.

Yeah but that's the distant future. Our wife's son might live to see it

naw man
learning is what means everything to the jew, and learning will be abundant in the post everything society
I'm thinking we're on the verge of entering the Star Trek-tier era

Do you really think you'll be allowed to live on the land? The elite and mega-corporations will either own everything, or legislate everything out of existence for plebs to exist as free men. Even if it were possible, there are likely to be bandit gangs that would pillage anything you set up, especially Quakers.

nobody with that kind of motivation would waste a second on Sup Forums

Classic brit shit post

less paid labour results in lower cost, consumers monentarily step up from goyim to jew whilst purchasing

DESU the best course of action right now would be making laws against automation, like requiring a certain amount of labor be done by humans.
However, if we colonize Mars, transporting fucktons of machinery or manufacturing facilities won't be efficient. Humans, while less specialized, have the ability to self-replicate.

Get a relevant skill and you'll be fine. Your fearful mumbling ain't gonna change anything. This future will come so you can either adapt or be worthless.

>universal income
Technically unconstitutional as compensation would in no way be adequate ie you'd have to forcefully nationalise all private profitable enterprises in order to achieve the legal basis and to have the necessary funds to support such an expenditure.

Won't work either. Shareholders and businesses will not surrender, and people will have no incentive to be productive. The system will end up crashing the economy in death spiral of unproductiveness.

>being this naive

No wonder your country is swirling the drain.

Sven, you've really got to leave your bubble.

It sure as fuck wouldn't be Musk who's paying it. since his huckster empire doesn't turn in any actual profit and is living on government subsidies

>since his huckster empire doesn't turn in any actual profit and is living on government subsidies

Can you elaborate on this?

He could be write if robotics continue to make products cheaper, and costs down.

It all really depends on a lack of major catasrophe in the coming decades.

Kek presence confirmed

You're wrong, he grew up in south Africa and fucking hates niggers.

Plenty of ultra rich people visit Sup Forums often but of course theres no way for me to prove it.

Space X is supposedlyhis only profitable enterprise and that is relying on the sale of future contracts of performance to the US government.

His other two companies are duds running losses and relying on grants.

belarus gets it

>being this paranoid
we'll just have to see how this all goes

>depends on a lack of major catasrophe in the coming decades.

I find that exceedingly unlikely.

i could almost believe this if Sup Forums weren't utter dreck

Yes. There won't be robot factories either. Not like you know factories today. Every village and possibly home will have the capability to fabricate whatever they want. You just feed your robot the plans and mats and it gets to work.

Money will be mostly worthless except for buying raw materials. Power was once in owning land, then it moved to owning factories (that whole "means of production" meme), and now it's going to move to the people who own the wells and mines.

I know Elon is a natsoc. He's publicly said America is the greatest nation on Earth.

However, if you think Elon isn't working on AI, I have terrible news for you. openai.com/about/


Also, Elon likely knows that developing the worlds most powerful problem solving machine is the best way whites can survive, and will ensure America stays as the worlds largest super power. So he will bloody well try to develop it.

How so?

dailycaller.com/2016/02/11/elon-musks-companies-down-billions-in-2016-promises-tesla-will-make-money-this-year/

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-04/as-tesla-gears-up-for-suv-investors-ask-where-the-profits-are

It's not retarded. Literally almost every job these days can beasily automated. No more need for humans in stores, manufacturing or driving. Robots will manufacture sell and shiPhone everything.

>Human is no longer necessary
>Remove for maximum optimization
This will happen every time in system where you don't have to work.

Catastrophic events can be engineered.

Why don't you have a look at Snapchat .Y. ME to share local sluts nudes.

FALC is a pipe dream, and they don't realize it's a pipe nightmare. Warren Buffet thinks that we can retain capitalism indefinitely but need wealth redistribution. Basically a state subsidy on wages.

IMO first we ought to tune the work week to the level of productivity. Right now there's no reason to work more than 32 hours, and eventually we could chip it down to 20. People have to make their own way in life or they're miserable, but it's also miserable to leave for work in the dark and come home in the dark, and miss your son's whole life. Technology makes life more efficient but we're working more. This is kike bullshit we've gotta fix it

Well, they're diligently working to reduce the population via peaceful memes, I mean, means.

Trying to turn everyone gay and feminist so they don't make babies.

>relying on the sale of future contracts of performance to the US government.

Yikes.

Thanks, Rusbro. Reading now.

>learning will be abundant in the post everything society

Like now? We live in a society of mass abundance, especially in terms of information and technology. You have a pocket computer that makes the original Star Trek devices look laughable, connected to the mega-information source that is the internet. What utopian things are the majority of the populace doing with these wonderous things? Watching porn or the dumbest Youtube videos or taking and sending selfies. We have peaked as a civilization and the only way is down.

share you are proxy generator pls

And why would anyone want that?

ITT: Waaahh nooo pls don't advance humankind!!!!
Working shitty jobs is the meaning of life!!! Musk is an evil elite Satanist!!!!

Lmao wew lads. Maybe you shouldn't have stayed a cashier, assembly worker etc for longer than necessary. Most of those people get gov benefits anyways since their companies refuse to hire them full time thus refusing them benefits.

Why are you fuckers so against it??? As long as you have food on your table and can buy the basic stuff you want, what else do you need? Do you really need to feel useful? Why do you want to slave your life away so much for the jew? Look at your life now, do you really think you will ever be rich or famous or something like that? So why not live a simple life doing whatever you want and let the state take care of you???

IM not saying he isn't working on AI,

He's trying his hardest to not let it fuck us over if that makes any sense.

we still don't have an abundant of time or calm. we still struggle every day to make a living. that will be the difference I hope

but I mean it could just become an orgiastic hellscape, I dunno

He has private contracts as well but I believe the majority is for the US government which under Obongo scrapped the Shuttle but had no vehicle to space and did not want to rely on the Russian Soyuz.

So we can live in a Star Trek-tier society, evidently.

Somewhere they'll try it and it'll start to go wrong because robots are made by humans and controlled by some humans and those humans will abuse it. Then the backlash will start, as these things do. The same thing will happen to eugenics when we start heading towards GATTACA. But then people will realize that human technology is just an extension of humanity itself, with all its flaws and evils. We'll return to a human centric society, at least there'll be an attempt, because that'll be most familiar to us.

How else are people going to survive once there's a 75% unemployment rate due to most professions not existing anymore? What we'll see is a cultural renaissance. With everybody guaranteed at least a minimum wage painters, artists, and musicians will now be able to make a career out of their hobbies and not have to worry about paying rent. Everything will be homemade again because now people don't have to worry about competing with malnourished Vietnamese orphans to create things. People's "jobs" will just become extensions of their personal interests and hobbies, because the small amount of money you make from it plus guaranteed income means you're doing pretty well for yourself.

Yeah he's pretty stupid. He's an autistic engineer so he has a detatched, systems oriented way of looking at things.
The only reason he is anything is because the govt has pumped money into his shitty company to keep it alive well beyond the point at which it would have failed under normal market forces.
I have no doubt he is skilled in his craft, but being good at specifics schools of engineering does not make someone good at everything else.

Universal Basic Income is a nice in theory bad in practice idea.

It means you end up with a very lazy class of do little's who have no reason to do much of anything at all.

Will they be sterilized to keep them from making more do little's? If you don't, you will soon have many more people that you can take care of. They will start starving as food gets scarce and then they will get restless.

Will the robots kill them? That opens up a dangerous Pandora's box. Especially if you either let AI decide or Elite humans decide who lives and dies.

Musk probably means well, but the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

From what I understand the black projects already have AI that can take yer jerbs, they're just rolling it out in steps.

He's just in the know and trying to make sure that it isn't just in the hands of corporate assholes, but all assholes.

whats the big deal? robot slaves will take over bullshit jobs

"Shitty" jobs are the only thing that sustains the 99%, in an automated society, those people will be genocided very quickly.

I don't think hes saying automation taking jobs is retarded, he's saying the univsersal basic income is retarded

I mean what the hell happens then? How is progress going to be made in any field? why would anyone make a new iphone for people if there's virtually no incentive?

Plus shit man turning an entire class of people into fuckin welfare teat-suckers just...humans need jobs man. 100 years of basic income will leave us all drawing paintings with a mixture of our own blood and cum and all sorts of bizarre shit

Good who cares
Literally why do you care

What use do the rich, the few, the 1% have for mass, cheap industrial production line with perfect efficiency? Wouldn't they prefer high-class, expensive, handcrafted goods?

Its far more likely that instead of labor being the primary way the average joe makes money to buy those cheap manufactured goods, the default changes to something else. Attention. Time. Ability to impress the 1% with art, comedy, or some kind of scientific breakthrough.

>Believing people will give you free money for existence when you contribute nothing to society
>Being this naive
Captcha : frei think

does openai have list of publications somewhere?

>let the state take care of you
That works well in Brazil does it? Are you living in your gold mansion with your state provided wife are you? Or as is more likely the case the Brazilian government is a corrupt shithole that cares only for the rich and gives zero fucks about the common folk?

Yes pray tell how are you going to make companies get taxed at these absurd rates in order to fund this (((universal income)))? When they are actually owned by people who work in them or who purchased them in the first place?

its hard to say what the form of the future will hold as robots do continue to grow in culture.

The fine arts are perhaps one of the few things that can't be automated. Might want to think on that for a while...

>ith everybody guaranteed at least a minimum wage painters, artists, and musicians will now be able to make a career out of their hobbies and not have to worry about paying rent.
Yeah, and most people will just sit on their ass and do nothing, because being productive gets you nothing more than being a leech.

Everything is geared towards one world government with the eventual ushering in of the Antichrist.

Beast financial system demands you receive a mark on your hand or forehead.

Poor people accept the mark so they can get free govt handouts.

Rich people accept the mark in order for them to continue enjoying their wealth.

Is there anything wrong with genetic engineering?
(Eugenics is too slow lad.)

yep, it's all bullshit

"Basic universal income" will only speed up the robot takeover. If you have to tax employees an extra $10,000 to pay $10,000 to the unemployed, then a robot just got effectively $10,000 cheaper per year.

Capitalism will still push down unskilled labor until it can stay cost effective.

actually most people want to do something with their lives, it's a natural instinct. enough with this ultra-pessimistic view of humanity.

>fine arts can't be automated
youtube.com/watch?v=McK5Yg1R_Zs

>Will they be sterilized to keep them from making more do little's? If you don't, you will soon have many more people that you can take care of. They will start starving as food gets scarce and then they will get restless.

This is an interesting part of the equation. The Left seems to be interested in BGI and automation despite turning the worker into a problem. More workers/immigrants/migrants won't be needed since robots will be doing everything. More children won't be needed as well. In fact, more people in general would be a detriment as it would raise the cost of supporting the BGI, not to mention every new person added is a new retiree in-waiting.

My thoughts exactly. Adapt or die. That is how society progresses. The minute we slow forward progress to coddle the weak and lazy is the minute we stop evolving and start our death.

Also, my family history is from (what now is) the Belarus and Ukraine area and I've always wanted to tour it. Is there anything interesting there to see?

This. I work in quality control and there are simply some jobs that will always need a human involved in, such as welding inspection.

>leaf

The basic universal income is a /result/ of the coming automation crisis. You'll need it to deal with the huge segment of the population out of a job because we're getting to the point where robots and computers are becoming cheaper and more productive in a whole lot of fields.

see >implying you won't be the first on the chopping block
>implying this won't lead to inbreeding in the elite and/or mass strife
It will be 100x worse than communism.
>what are nignogs

More like, these retards will create robots to make products nobody wants and we won't fall for the "basic income" communist trap. All the companies will go broke and we will buy things from local people again.

>"Basic universal income" will only speed up the robot takeover.
that's good though, we as a species should move past having to do menial tasks and labor for a living. Plus, if there are no more blue collar jobs, the leftists can't push their "our countries NEED immigrants" bullshit anymore.

>thinks basic income automatically means nothing to do

what a lazy fuck
>projects own laziness onto everyone else

assuming everyone is lazy is a good way to get your ass kicked faggot

>what are NEETS

The problem in Brasil is that only a few get this ''basic income'' while the rest need to pay for those leeches. In a society where the robots work for the people who would do nothing but leech, why would you care?? Also who said anything about living in a mansion? Do you really need to feel better than everyone else to justify your existence? Many people would be happy knowing they would not starve and just living a simple life.

>genetic engineering?
Yea, it's overseen by humans.