Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top. The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures. The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).
How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.
Tyler Martin
>mfw leftist meetings have cute girls
Jayden Bennett
>walk into a thread about housing prices >constant bitching and disillusionment with capitalism :^)
Liam Morris
Not only that...
Lucas Diaz
>ITT: Heores of the People
A man whose love for his people was only matched by the peoples love for him.
RIP
Joseph Brown
kek
Ethan King
>Communism HAHAHAHAHAHA You faggots are pathetic. Communism has literally never worked, and it never will. Why would you even want to participate in a system where you have no right to personal ownership of anything, and you need to ask the government for permission for practically everything. That's just slavery, you idiots.
Ian Parker
Comrade Juan, my favorite piece of helicopter fodder :D
Julian Gray
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Oliver Cooper
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
William Brown
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Adam Martin
Get out
Leo Nguyen
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Levi Young
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Alexander Miller
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Hunter Rogers
You can have personal ownership of things in communism.
Ryan Lopez
lol look at all these mentally ill pinko commies in this thread.
lol @ ur lives.
Kevin King
Toothbrush meme in the wild. Wew.
Kevin Harris
Only the few things that the government designates as necessary for your survival, and nothing else. Not even your home is your own. They can come in at any point, and just put more people there, and you legally have to live with them. Communism is ultimate power for the government.
Sebastian Green
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Jackson Edwards
commies are so fail. They say all their bullshit like its fact, and get butthurt when the right tells them that things are more complicated than their model.
Mason Evans
It's the country that pretends it was worse off under commies.
Dylan Hill
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David Cox
Communism was an invention of the Jews, to further their religious goal of a one world government, under their control. They call it 'greater Israel'. Anyone who participates in Communism, is directly aiding the Jews and their insane world domination plans.
Andrew Long
it's a fucking mentally ill leaf
I hope an equally mentally ill chink eats you
Brody Turner
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Joseph Turner
Jesus fucking Christ, how retarded are you, nigger?
Easton Hill
>communism is just, like, when the gubment does stuff
Please read a book.
Cameron Thomas
>ancraps >read LMAO
Lucas Brown
good goy
Jordan Ramirez
Communism is Judaism.
Hudson Cox
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Cooper Carter
Obligatory.
Jason Reed
My friend
I'll love a happening of some commie faggots coming to my home and try to force me to take someone in.
I'd put a round in all their skulls, cut their dumb heads off and hang em all off my tree as a warning to all other commies
Chase Martinez
pic of moses hess is wrong desu. the pic is bakunin, who was aware of the Jewish question.
he was still a deluded anarchist terrorist, but please do change it
Blake Robinson
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Brody Green
Everything you love will die.
Nicholas Lewis
There's nothing wrong with fascism prove me wrong >pro tip:you can't
Lincoln Perry
ayyyyyyyyyy
pic related
Mason Peterson
Notice how the bulk of these faggot commies don't refute anything, they just mock and hope that takes care of it for them.
Jonathan Stewart
>when you have to contrast yourself with ancaps to look good
Gavin Johnson
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Leo Wright
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Anthony Davis
>How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime Lel this is just objectively wrong and you've clearly made zero attempt to look at income data over time of individuals.
Literally the exact is true for both system. Capitalism s marked with massive wealth mobility and socialist societies have bigly stagnation of the poor.
Wyatt Ortiz
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Brandon Long
> believing in a political that has never succeeded despite numerous attempts literally top kek
Eli Gonzalez
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Justin Taylor
ooooo i'm shaking
Samuel Sullivan
yep it is, communism was taken straight out of the Talmud and forced upon gentile kingdoms,cultures and civilizations.
terrorist is just another word for a jew
Luis Jenkins
>Capitalism s marked with massive wealth mobility Reality has determined this is a lie.
Ayden Ramirez
>le ebil top hats criminalize anti-semitism and holocaust revisionism all over the world >make l'stormfags secretly hate the jews who dindu nuffin >??? >profit!
Adrian Baker
Basically this. National Socialism improved the lives of the working class of Germany than communism has ever managed to do.
Landon Cox
Sort yourself out bucko and listen to jordan peterson
Wyatt Lopez
What exaclty is (anarcho-)syndicalism, other than a meme ideology in Kaiserreich?
Matthew Morgan
but muh ekwallitee; muh free market
Carson King
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Logan Ortiz
>cuckommunist-socialists want to destroy the white race and any future of a utopian society ,because they are too stupid to realise when Jews are lying to them about money!
Joseph Sanchez
Hi Marxists! Is there a professor or Youtuber who you would like to see debate Jordan Peterson? He's got an audience, so it would be a good way to boost your candidate's audience if they aquitted themselves well.
Also, I'd like it if Peterson's viewpoint on Marxism was more nuanced than 'Go read Solzhenitsyn.' Who would be good to sharpen his teeth on?
Mason Howard
>listening to politically illiterate psych prof No.
Jeremiah Hall
Yessssss, it's the jews fucking you over. Aren't you such a hard worker?
Asher Clark
How about we don't give the attention whore more attention?
Nathan Thompson
>tfw you have no ownership of even your own food >tfw your government leaves you to starve because they took all your food >tfw you start to cook dead people just to survive Communism is responsible for well over 100 million deaths, most of which was due to starvation. Turns out, Communist governments couldn't give a fuck less about feeding their poor people. Communism is a trick. The rhetoric is all about feel-good concepts like social and financial equality for all, which is impossible, which is partly why Communism always fails. But in order to do something like even the outcomes for everyone, you have to give ultimate power to the government. Communism is using utopian idealism to usher in a system where the government has ultimate authority over everyone and everything. It's just another in a long list of Jew tricks on the goyim.
Nathan Ortiz
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Liam Long
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Brayden Ross
All workplaces are democratic and a democratic congress determines production.
Nathaniel James
>be communist cuck "GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!1"
Adrian Edwards
Oh look the shitskin spic is back.
Jayden Howard
Topkek
Jaxson Hughes
Never heard of him, and I'd love to hear your sources that Communism had anything to do with Talmud.
Which Tanna or Amora said anything about the working class? Which Mesechta was this mentioned in? What was the context, which source from the Torah did they base it on?
Adrian Edwards
maybe the right should get the brown people on our side. They love mugging us whites...maybe we should tell them its open season on forcefully redistributing the wealth of these oh so willing nu-male comerades.
Camden Russell
yes gomr8, let's string up Pajeet, the owner of the owner of the 7/11 down the block, for being a fuggin bourgeoisie tool :DDD >there would be no work in a communist society
Zachary Fisher
>muh 100 gorrilion >capitalism has resulted in more death and inequality >they deserved it! Goddamn, fucks like you will be shot. At least nazis have something going on in their head. Spooked to shit by racism and nationalism, sure, but still. Ayncraps like you spew nothing but dogma and falsehoods.
Ayden Martinez
That's a ridiculous claim.
Dylan Flores
>Reality has determined this is a lie. Them you'd have no problem posting the wealth of data. Protip it says what I said and again we both know you haven't looked this up nor probably understand how to look it up to begin with because you're likely completely and utterly illnumerate
Austin Reed
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Julian Thompson
fuck off and drop dead kike
Liam Carter
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Hudson Moore
>thinking they'll give the wealth back to society after they've taken it
Oh boy i really love 1984! Now i can dream of really being afraid of the thought police in real life
Gavin Nelson
HIJO DE LA GRAN PUTA MUERETE SO CABRÓN DE UNA PUTA VEZ
Benjamin Bailey
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Luis Evans
start arguing anytime, lad
Jason Murphy
So, you have no smart people who would like a leg up? You have no good modern-day philosophers who would give as good as they got?
Anthony Carter
>hated by most of the population
that's a lie
Carson Parker
Better chart.
Christopher Fisher
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Isaiah Murphy
Here's the wealth distribution.
Jayden Richardson
>Own machinery and materials >Offer someone to make it into product in exchange for a cut of the profit >They consent to this trade of currency for labour >This triggers the commie for some raisin