Communism General

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
momentum.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
momentum.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
momentum.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
momentum.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
momentum.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=K4kHiUAjTvQ
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Quick question, when did communism go from based family values Stalinism to LGBTQAR-15++ queer cuck bullshit?

Hello gomrads. Gommunism ib next stage of thing that aren't real gommunism

Ussr - not real gommunism
China - not real gommunism
Cambodia - not real gommunism
North korea - not real gommunism
Vietnam - not real gommunism
Cuba - not real gommunism
Romania - not real gommunism
Ethiopia- not real gommunism
Critical theory - not real gommunism

In gonglusion, the thing you say ib real gommunism ib not real gommunism.

But...

No, no buts.

Not real gommunism

Go away

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We have better prepubescent girls

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Hello Momentum lads. This general is for the discussion of Momentum-Corbynism, the ideology of revolutionary islam worship and fucking israel.

Momentum is the next stage of humanity following the communist stage.

What exactly is Momentum according to Corbynistas and Momentum lads:

>Momentum is a stage of society in which the railways is owned by Corbyn, and Britain pays reparations until it is bankrupt for its colonial injustices
>Momentum in it's full form is a pakistani class society that follows the maxim "Fuck Britain and Fuck White people."
>To achieve such a society Corbynism teaches us that we must replace the Blairite state, which is controlled by the Blairite class, by a Momentum state, which is controlled by the Corbynista class. Then, a period of party struggle follows in which the Blairite class is guillotined by the Corbynista class. When the Blairite class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the Pakistani class, and eventually the functions of supreme leader Corbyn's state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the Islamic society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Tom Watson said.
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

Corbynistas uses a philosophy called "fuck the blairites", see here:
momentum.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Corbynism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
momentum.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
momentum.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
momentum.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
momentum.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
momentum.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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I agree that socialism is good, but only National Socialism, all the other socialisms are subpar.

youtube.com/watch?v=K4kHiUAjTvQ

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6 million doesn't seem so bad anymore does it?

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Notable though is the fact that at no point was anything resembling the labor theory of value use in any of those societies.

Sounds to me like fascism has killed the least of the 3 ideologies then.

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Is this a Tanya thread now?

Basically this. What commies fail to understand, is that by saying "we may have killed 100 million but capitalism killed even more!" is that they are legitimizing fascism as the most peaceful ideology.

And since there has never been a war between two fascist nations, something that can't be said for communism, we are even more peaceful than any other ideology could hope to be.

Sure, I see no reason why not.

9 million, goy

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Nice try porky, buy capitalism/fascism killed way more people.

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Fascism killed 12 million at most, and I'm really stretching in your favor to get that amount. Communism killed about 100 million.

>Nice try porky, buy capitalism/fascism killed way more people.

>successful socialist

Imagine a 19yo turd. The type of guy that was the outcast of his class. Almost nobody talked with him. He was not tall, not athletic, not smart, not anything. The type of guy without a good father figure, more than likely living with a single mom. Eventually he becomes a communist, not because his ideology makes the slight amount of sense, but because he feels like he has no power nor control over the current world. He feels like only smarter and richer people can make decisions that will alter his surroundings, his personal impotency stresses him; so he fantasizes about a world where his good will alone would magically change his surroundings. All of the economical problems that would otherwise destroy his fantasy can be ignored, because in his fantasy, people will have such a strong will to make a good world that all the complications would vanquish.

In reality, he's just a kid that got stuck in pleasure island. He's just a nihilistic person trapped in his own fantasy. He has no objective morals, no objective principles, all he has is his fantasy, and he will accept whatever it takes to further his beliefs in his fantasy.

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>ableist slur

>try to make list of how many people private property and individual rights has killed
>can't even list a single mass death event
>so start listing entire wars, holocaust, communist civil wars and everything you can come up with instead
>number still too small; fug
>nothing 100 million indigenous people out your ass can't fix
>15 million African slaves actually died thanks to individual freedom of course
How long will you keep on lying to yourselves commies?

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On dirty war the number should be "not enough".

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