I fucking feel terrible now that I realise the truth about the National Socialists, we kicked the Germans all the way back to Berlin and allowed people to get away with rape and murder.
Berlin was in ruins, civilians where being shot, surrendering soldiers where being tortured and killed, and we destroyed anything and everything that made Germany great in those short 12 years of actual freedom.
The Germans where outnumbered 10 to 1 during the Battle of Berlin, 80,000 vs. 1.2 Million, the Germans killed 300,000 but they where too outnumbered, by April 30th it was only old men and young boys with one shot rocket launchers fighting the soviets. Germany was under (((Capitalist))) and (((Communist))) in the postwar era.
And to this day they worship the men who killed their ancestors.
The American and British armies never entered Berlin. What you're referring to is the Russians.
I have never once heard anyone talking about how courageous and brave Russian soldiers in Berlin were.
Isaac Green
The problem with this sort of mentality is that those who inherited the outcome of past conflicts have no affiliation to them whatsoever. Whether Axis or Allied, we can only look to what is right or wrong now and learn from the past (once setting the record straight, that is). The Germans were the real victims in the great European civil war, but all those fighting for their respective countries were.
We were supposed to be friends across the whole of Europe and rule together; purge togethe; cleanse together.
Isaiah Murphy
>MUH ZEBIL RUSSKI RAEP Spare me yourself like tear anglokike
Soviets never carpet bombed dozens of our cities into ashes and basically massacred tens of thousands after the war was over The eternal anglokike Scum of the earth and greatest bane of whites
Connor Young
>The Germans were the real victims in the great European civil war But they tried to invade the entire continent and systematically wipe out entire populations of minorities, silly user!
This is all the atrocities caused by the allies I talking about here.
Alexander Williams
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Caleb Jones
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Yeah they were disgusting criminals in the red army however there were also very brave soldiers
Christopher Gutierrez
*There
Colton Nelson
Congrats britbong you just swallowed the redpill and now see the truth
Germany was the good guy in WW2 (and to some extent also in WW1)
Dominic Roberts
As bad as cooperating with the USSR to defeat Germany was, how do you think Western Allies would've teamed up with Germany against the USSR?
Aiden Hughes
11,000,000 Russians were killed single handedly by Germany, do you honestly think they should've been given mercy when the tables were turned?
Landon Gonzalez
>remember the 11 gorillion bazillion goy! you're honestly pathetic
Cameron Morris
It's too late now faggot, in 30 years or so you'll learn what it's like to be a white minority. May Churchill choke on his arab paradise.
Zachary Flores
This. If Hitler really wanted to win the World War, he would need East Slavs on his side.
Mason Taylor
Operation Unthinkable. We could have done it and won if the US would've drafted more men. Also to rearm germany and to get as many nukes as possible. Maybe get nationalist china on our side. I feel we would have won and gain local support when pushing back eastern europe.
Christopher Gray
>you're honestly pathetic
For what, pointing out facts. >muh nazis were the good guys
They tried to stab the Russian bear in the heart and got rightfully mauled to death.
Ian Foster
stfu anglocuck, you wehraboos are mentally ill
support your own country, if we would have won I would have no sympathy for your kind
Bentley White
Im totally okay with it, since it was germany who sent bolsheviks to russia in 1917.
Lincoln Martin
>And to this day they worship the men who killed their ancestors.
Denazification.
Isaiah White
What an idiot you are. The Soviets mainly raped a lot. Germans killed or starved Soviets.
Caleb Gutierrez
Don't think the Soviets didn't bomb Germany cities out of the kindness of their hearts. They didn't because the Red Air Force had few long range bombers or capable escorts. Soviet bombers operated on a tactical level.
Nathaniel Lee
>t. burger on Sup Forums
Oliver Adams
The british deserve to be gassed for their role in WW2 tbchwyf
Anthony Phillips
>Denying it
Gavin Collins
The Germans have nobody but themselves to blame, and they killed children and people when they invaded USSR just as well. Kill yourself.
James Miller
>fight for the kikes >your country becomes completely infested with degeneracy after ww2 >germans were bad goy! dumb nu-Sup Forums detected
Dominic Turner
> draft more Americans I think they wouldn't have jumped into WWIII after WWII > rearm Germany Krauts most likely wouldn't have jumped into another war: they'd been already demoralised. > get China to help Don't think it would've worked: chinks were in a civil war. > getting local support from East Europians This one I agree with.
Hunter King
Making either side to be completely evil or good is fucking childish, primary school level history discussion.
btw Churchill hated the jews as well for their role in communism. Mong.
Zachary Rogers
There was execution on spot for rape in the Red Army. Sure some instances (maybe a few dozens) may have occured but it's not like Soviets plowed their way to the Reichstag with their dicks out
Andrew Ross
Careful.
Kayden Russell
>I think they wouldn't have jumped into WWIII after WWII the war attitude was still alive and well. With Japan our morale just boosting. With nukes soviets maybe eager to peace out.
Leo Harris
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Owen Ortiz
>Sending back Jews to Israel >Uniting German people under one flag The only thing I can't accept is that they said that every other race were inferior, but Italians(Romans), Greeks and much more other races are there, and even the Slavs, Baltics and Magyars, who came before those territories were taken.
Aiden Thompson
They had nukes too.
John Hall
This hahahaha UK btfo
Luis Cooper
the allied side was sure a lot more fucking evil than the germans, have you looked at whats going on in the west these days?
Jason Perry
>but it's not like Soviets plowed their way to the Reichstag with their dicks out
best porno ever
Camden Collins
Unthinkable was pretty much impossible. The US being the only nation with nukes lasted for a few years. Immediately after WW2 the only nations in any state to fight were the US and USSR. Even with rearmed Germans there would not be much of an advantage to the US since most that were left were young boys or old men. If you don't totally conquer the USSR by 1949, then the Soviets have the atomic bomb.
Camden Hall
Not till like 52 I think. Not at the end of the war
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were demonstrations of our power aimed at the soviets I remember reading from one revisionist
Wyatt Ross
Why don't you read the article where that's from idiot
He's talking about the civil war within the jewish people, the zionists and the communists. Maybe you should actually read about history instead of believing stormfag memes.
William Cox
Why are you spewing Russian official position? Do you work for Russian government or something ?
Alexander Foster
Fuck off fritz. Webm related, enjoy the bbq...
Liam Bennett
> war attitude was allive and well Japan is nothing like the USSR and also the japs had been severly weakened (assuming were talking about 1945). > threating with nukes That would've worked out for several years until the commies developed their own nukes. With threats of nuclear bombardment they would've probably stepped up their nuclear program.
Aaron Rodriguez
I hate this "argument" >If Germany would have won I'm going to assume, with no proof, that the next 80 years would be perfect >Clearly this means the Nazis were right and the allies (Jews!) were bad
Colton Edwards
BTFO TFO FO O
fucking hate reichaboos
Mason Gutierrez
Nah man, most jobs in the government have shit pay unless it's higher up in the food chain or security agencies.
Blake Lewis
also I don't really think you can go with the 'just throw nukes at them' option as it would make the western allies look terrible. Ww2 showed that stalin doesn't surrender easily and how many nukes can you throw at them, killing untold thousands of people and destroying so many cities until you look worse then the USSR ever could be
Samuel Foster
>Sending Jews back to Israel >not a single Jew was sent to Israel
What did he mean by this?
Juan Sullivan
Why do Russians deny the mass-rapes in Berlin?
They should be proud of cuckolding the German men and grabbing the German women by the pussy. Germany is a despicable nation and deserves to be cucked, it's what they themselves want
William Roberts
>the allies weren't jew conrolled >germany wouldn't have stopped this jew controlled cultural marxism you aren't the brightest are you user? youtube.com/watch?v=5Vekf_2952U
Cameron Butler
Why was it called unthinkable. Gee I wonder. Maybe because the USSR outnumbered allied troops in post-war Europe 5:1 in men, 3:1 in tanks, and the few Superfortresses you did have had no sufficient range to deliver atomic bombs into USSR. Or maybe because Soviet Army was dominant combat force on the planet hardened in the greatest battles in human history while your GI Joes had no experience beyond island hopping and killing 3rd rate Wehrmacht reservists on western front.
Jonathan Lee
Then why do you defend shit that no one blames you for? Russians restrained themselves considering what Germans did to Russians.
Nathaniel Ramirez
хyлe кopмишь, дoлбoeб
Adrian Watson
But, you did have nukes, and both our airforces were much stronger than vanyas. I wonder if they would have kept fighting if Moscow and stalingrad were piles of glowing ash?
Wyatt Sanders
>Posting propaganda made by Goebbels Well I guess if the Nazis said they're right, they must be right. Guess we should have just gave up the West and accepted Communism since the Soviets claimed it was for equality and friendship! Gosh. Why are we still fighting in the world today? Just hand it over to the Islamists, they say the Koran is peaceful so clearly if they win there will be no more strife.
Juan Allen
Because the war started, and it would be too expensive to move them back, so the only way was for them to "buy themselves out" from Germany. The rich/intelligent ones were "bought out" by the (((Americans))), the others were left there
Brody Moore
>we kicked the Germans all the way back to Berlin
Charles Sanders
>I wonder if they would have kept fighting if Moscow and stalingrad were piles of glowing ash? Ask Napoleon and Hitler.
Grayson Roberts
It was never as bad as Weimar republic. At least they still have the autobahn, and their industry seems to have recovered sufficiently.
Achieve greatness, so there will be something left when the jews inevitably ruin it for everyone.
Chase Taylor
mongrels didnt have nukes until 4 years after we showed ours.
they never had a program to being with. It took 4 years after Hiroshima and they were scared as fuck from that. It took 4 years with top priority to develop nukes.
>also I don't really think you can go with the 'just throw nukes at them' option worked on japan. Americans have hated communism since the revolution and with propaganda even today.
Austin Jackson
The Germans never entered Moscow
Connor Myers
This. The moron could have allied with the Poles and together they would have defeated the commies.
Nicholas Morales
Probably. If Stalin knew of nukes then he and the Stavka could have separated to different cities or pulled back East to another location. Or they could have built a strong underground bunker and make a run for it. Taking/destroying Moscow would not guarantee a victory like taking Berlin did.
Jaxson Martinez
Poles aren't East Slavs senpai
Blake Evans
The genius of the 3rd reach used the transmissions channeled to maria orsic of the vril society to invent the time device odin v9. Then they tried to use this to transport the 'chrono kikes' forward to the founding of israel in 1948. But it blew a fuse.
Luke Turner
>Berlin was in ruins, civilians where being shot, surrendering soldiers where being tortured and killed, and we destroyed anything and everything that made Germany great in those short 12 years of actual freedom. good times eh
Luis Baker
Wah muh innocent Churmans, tell that to the Poles and the Czechs
Justin Watson
>commies had no nuclear program They did. As far back as 1944, maybe even earlier. Granted it was crappy at the begining but it gained steam after Truman mentioned nukes to Stalin at Potsdam. Then he got Berya to manage the development of the nukes which, I agree, has its success in large part because of american nukes dropped on the japs.
Cameron Edwards
Ok, what's your numbers then, fag?
Tyler Clark
Because there is no difference between the truth and a lie that everyone believes in.
Brayden Perry
still took 4 years with the soviets having fear a nuke could come at any moment. And if unthinkable happened the pressure to get on would be difficult since all resources would be on war effort.
Liam Young
You be carefull with your words, krauts might celebrate all the killings after the Warsaw uprising.
Andrew Butler
> took 4 years Truman never threatened to nuke the soviets thus Stalin may have had some breathing space. > if unthinkable happened Ok, developing nukes at the outbreak of WWIII might not have been feasable, but nonetheless the Red Army was much larger than what the Americans could've mustered with the help of the brits or krauts, which alone would've caused a stalemate.
Jace Moore
Today we drop a 1/4 million $ in a guidance system for a bomb that is targeted from space and designed to inflict the least amount of collateral damage on our enemies' support network as possible. We lacked the technology and production to do so in the 40's. We also lacked the plague of hippies and pillow biters that cry over our enemies' losses like they were their wives' children.
Adrian Davis
3.15 million Germans lived in Czechoslovakia, that's on par with if not greater than the number of Slovaks that lived in Czechoslovakia. Annexing Sudetenland was completely justifiable and in line with the self determination that set European borders for over a century.
Adam Cox
Had they won they'd have gotten away with the destruction of European countries and their people in some cases. But you're not pro European, you're pro Germanic, of course a brit would be pro Germanic regardless of the fact that Celts and Slavs apart from sharing linguistic similarities, both having complex and deep religions of the past (which were similar, at least partially) and having their ancestors live in Asia. You probably also turn a blind eye to what happened to the Czechs, Slovaks, Poles and others in Europe. So let me guess, it's okay to kill Europeans in the name of "freeing them from bolshevik judaism?" Correct? But not okay when "they" fight back and even then aren't so hostile (don't kill small kids, don't plan to ethnically genocide them and use some as slaves) towards the civilians of the conquered regime.
Benjamin Rogers
Never forget the holodomor.
Isaiah Watson
>support your own country, if we would have won I would have no sympathy for your kind
Matthew Torres
Too bad for Hitler that the rest disagreed. Funny thing about losing a war (WW1), when you lose you no longer get to do certain things as a nation. Claiming lands is one of them.
He probably could have gotten away with the Sudetenland and Austria, but the line was drawn at Poland. But even today some claim that was justified. So where does it end?
Charles Rodriguez
grow a backbone any male enemy is yours to kill in war. just war or invasion doesn't matter. you can kill even little boys because they will grow and come for revenge.
Hunter Watson
>brave against old men and boys
What? When you're living off (((American))) money and armaments, you can pretty much charge in with decent gear, hardly facing 20+ year old SS elite, is it?
RIP Europeans who fought against the (((allies)))
David Powell
no disrespect but your nation is literally the result of asian rape and pillaging. Hungary doesn't exist, it's like Belgium but older
Levi Campbell
>As i know, they did capture a tram and ride a few stops...
Ian Smith
Fun fact: USSR had SHITLOAD of spies in US during Manhattan project. Damn, they even met Oppenheimer. So blueprints of american nuke was in Moscow week after it have been built. And 1st soviet nuke was pure copy of american one.
Though, Kurchatov (soviet nuclear program leader) wanted to try some his ideas, but goverment rejected that, bcuz they didnt want to risk.
So 1st nuke in US and USSR was the same, but then both countries start developing their own ways of removing humanity.
Austin Lewis
Bro, your pic is way too off. Basically for winning a war, you guys got the same price what we got for loosing.
Robert Thomas
>Burger Education American soldiers definitely went into Berlin. B-17 "flying fortresses" flew overhead.
Jack Rogers
>implying flying over an area means that you've been inside of it
are you fucking retardee
Carter Hernandez
Not only did they have spies in the Manhattan project but other areas of the USA as well. That's why burgers were paranoid for decades of communist infiltration. It had an influence of the conviction of the Rosenbergs who were accused of passing the secrets of the A-bomb to the commies.
Aiden Ortiz
Berlin was defended by around 1 million german soldiers, 1500 tanks and 3300 planes (20% were folksturm, police, hitlerugent, railroad etc), they have lost more than 400 000 dead and 380 000 captured.
ussr and polish troopers hve lost 80 000 dead.
Joshua Ramirez
It's real shame that nuke were defeloped before they could drop them on you.
Eli Hughes
We're about to go full commie. Things are ba enough right now. Nazi Germany was a utopia, literally Heaven on Earth. Too bad the synagogue of Satan had to shut it down
Luke Stewart
>Nazi Germany was a utopia, literally Heaven on Earth.
Yeah haha except for the part where your 12 year old son got drafted or yoir house got bombed or you got arrested for speaking your opinion or your neighbor got taken away to be sent to a concentration camp haha other than those minor problems it was a-ok
Dominic Williams
I legitimately cannot work out if you are decrying or defending National Socialists since you could be referring to learning the truth truth or "truth" about them, could be referring to what the Nazis did to their own people or what the Russians did to them and could be referring to modern Germans worshiping Americans who killed their ancestors or modern Germans on here worshiping Nazis who killed their ancestors lmao
which I think gives the game away that both sides of every war are full of pieces of shit who kill innocent people and it's all meaningless death
Aiden Wilson
> 12 year old son got drafted > arrested for speaking your opinion > your neighbor got taken away
Do you think this has changed, now?
Bombs are now in Syria and the camps are on our ground. We pay again. With culture and money. My definition of "free" still looks different. So fuck it. The hope for a utopia is better than the truth of our sick dystopia, made of plastic, rapmusic and diet-softdrinks.
Jonathan Walker
yea thats right goy you feel bad for what people you never met did... good goy. go listen to the first 6 and a half minutes of moonlight sonata in a loop for the next 10 years and cry yourself to sleep at night thinking about jews riding trains i mean they had cars and trucks but they had to ride trains. all those pictures of them being sad isnt because they knew they would die its that they had to ride trains. half the pics are from years before the war and they are just that bummed at having to ride trains
James Foster
>started two worlds wars. >war >they lost Get over it, they lost, shouldn't have been so retarded to fight the entire fucking world.
Grayson Lewis
Because everyone who had conflicting views died in the Russian gulags after the war..