yeah guns didn't kill anyone in England today! Safety! Also, is that an updated bait pic?
Adam Jenkins
The people trying to maintain the Constitution and its limited government are in the minority. The majority, the global leftists, would scrap it entirely if they could. So by our "worship" of the Constitution on the right, it prevents the left from doing as they will. Or at least delaying it sufficiently.
One of them, a Senator iirc, says that reading the Constitution as written and originally intended is "not in the mainstream of American jurisprudence". So it's not as though they're in hiding. They're right out in the open.
Jason Ortiz
errr, they did not or are you trying to make some other point?
>The attacker, dressed in black and armed with two large knives, drove a car over Westminster Bridge, ramming into members of the public outside the Houses of Parliament. Attacker then entered the gates of New Palace Yard and repeatedly stabbed a male police officer. He was shot by the officer's colleagues.
imagine he would have AR15 or Bushmaster with few of your favorie high capacity magazines, where he could fire in to crowd of people for 5 minutes without major interruption
Bentley Price
Why not just look at the murder rate? Without minorities of course since all these are whiter than snow
Benjamin Jackson
>that flag You really need to go
Evan Scott
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Brayden Reed
Gun policy has no measurable impact on homicide rates. All of the amendments in the Bill of Rights have been watered down to some degree but that doesn't mean we shouldn't defend the rights we still currently have.
Cooper Thomas
>guns murdered >handguns killed
Didn't know inanimate objects could kill. I guess the guns are becoming self-aware.
Luis Cooper
>Take out your gun >Lay it on table/floor >Say kill 3 times >Post results
guns dont kill people
Landon Myers
Well the amendment applies to what's useful and common for militia's to field so I wouldn't apply it to tanks. Militia's aren't armor divisions. Auto weapons and RPG's I would but that's a pipedream.
Adam Collins
wow, so few americans can read, too bad its retarded
>Gun policy has no measurable impact on homicide rates.
you really would need to go out of your way retarded to believe that
for example australia is example of rapid policy change
>homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law's effectiveness.
Angel Sullivan
In Brazil guns are forbidden but in the same year (2004) we have 37113 murders
Oliver Evans
trannyland coming in clutch
Colton Turner
>that pic Hold up.. Adjust for population, please.
Robert Wood
numbers are so miniscule that you should not need it but who knows, maybe UK has population of 400,000 people right?
Jordan Brooks
Okay you go get a conviction in court with" circumstantial evidence"
Also how exactly do you propose disarming America. Can't be done. Plain and simple.
Logan Morales
I could own all of those, including armed fighter aircraft with the right tax stamps (FAA might get asshurt but fuck em)
>Owns tank >Not registering your tanks main gun gun as a DD
Luke White
gun crime is not inclusive of all aggressive violent crime.
Austin Hall
Homicide or homicide by firearms? Something tells me it's the latter. Did you know in 400 AD Rome, there were ZERO (0!!!) homicides by firearms?
Carson Edwards
But I can own all of that....
But you're right; all arms control is illegal and unconstitutional.
Jackson Reed
Most homocides are commited with illegally obtained fire arms, which is not a problem for NZ, AUS, and UK. I'll also give you a hint to who commits most of these murder in the US the word starts with an N and ends with a HARD R.
PS combine the population of all these countries and it's still less than the US
Sebastian Sanchez
Most of those things are possible to own, if you go through the assload of red tape and regulations to get them.
For most militia-tier purposes (ostensibly the purpose of the amendment), semi-auto is quite sufficient.
Joseph Evans
>>cant own tank with functional firing system
yes you can, many people do
>>cant own rpg launchers
yes you can, many people do
>>cant own fully automated guns
yes you can, many people do
>>cant own higher capacity magazines in some states
cucks gonna cuck
Luke Bennett
You ELS posters are my favorite. For all our guns, we don't have nearly enough shooting sprees like brevik. The niggers can't be bothered to buy and maintain automatics like that.
Carter Russell
Now adjust for socio-economic status... Now graph gun ownership v. firearm homicides like:NOW stop cherry picking countries. Unite States does NOT have the most homicides. There are countries like most of Africa and South America that have plenty more homicides than the United States. Finally, take out all suicides, self defence, and accidents of "total homicides" If you still believe in gun control, neck yourself.
Nathaniel Gray
You're not addressing OP's point.
If the point is "cannot be infringed", why isnt the far right fighting for our right to own RPGs, tanks and nuclear warheads? or do unironically believe I should be able to buy those things at walmart?
Hudson Myers
Why the fuck would we give up our right to protect ourselves, our property, and our freedom for a negligible reduction in death rate?
Leftists really are retarded.
Oliver Lopez
But you can own them all of those things. You would just need to do the paperwork and get the tax stamps.
As for states banning magazines, there are only about 5 states that ban full cap magazines, and none that I know of has a retro active ban before the law was written.
Isaac Rodriguez
You can own them with out tax stamps, just don't report that you have them.
Tyler Myers
And half of them are niggers, and the rest are accounted for by our way higher population. Nice
Andrew Richardson
What are you protecting yourself against?
Anthony Moore
>You would just need to do the paperwork and get the tax stamps.
what happened to "shall not be infringed"?
Your "ideology" is full of holes faggot.
Lucas Allen
Actually, there are talks to decriminalizing. For instance, suppressors are being scrutinized for legality.
Justin Allen
Whatever I damn well feel like. Jews. crack whores, clowns, whatever. It's a matter of principle.
How can you pretend to be a free people when your government has absolute power over you? When you have no capacity to resist those who would use force against you? It makes you a metaphorical sheep.
Cooper Cooper
>yfw over 60% of those are suicides
Gabriel Lee
The constitution is a guideline. The right to bear arms shall NOT be infringed. The fourth amendment protects this right to protect against unconstitutional search and siezuer.
Asher Richardson
Because large arms didn't really exist until the 20th century.
Joshua Hill
>the state infringes on personal liberty who would'a thunk it?
Josiah King
>Politicians disregard the constitution when they can >Ergo the citizens shouldn't bother trying to defend any parts of it Ideally citizens should have the right to automatic rifles and fully functioning tanks. Give police departments a few old bazookas and maybe TOW missiles to knock out tanks if someone goes on a rampage. Also one man can't drive, aim, load, and fire a tank, so it isn't like one crazy man can just drive his T-55 through New York City blowing up buildings, he would need to drive, stop, turn the turret, load the gun, and fire himself.
Eli Collins
if only there would be a quick way to check on google >These deaths consisted of 11,208 homicides,[5] 21,175 suicides,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental or negligent discharge of a firearm, and 281 deaths due to firearms use with "undetermined intent"
Colton Sanchez
If you look at the gun crime rate among whites only, we've got about the same rate of gun crime as Belgium or Luxembourg
I guess this needs repeating because yurofags just can't grasp that we don't have a gun problem, we have a NIGGER problem
Nicholas Long
what the fuck do you think cannons and Gatling guns are?
just because they're mounted on an armored shell doesn't make them otherworldly
Connor Mitchell
And the fact that increasing availability of guns is slightly correlated to its use. That's like arguing to ban cars because cars kill more people every year, but fails to mention that most people own a car now than they did many years ago. captcha: cars.
Cameron Wilson
isnt there a clause in there about it being the common weaponry at the time?
>muh recreational nukes
Dylan Jenkins
no you moron
read the fucking bill of rights
Caleb Parker
we actually can own all of those things
Adam Wilson
>what are cannons Bombard cannons have been used towards the end of medieval warfare to bust down fortifications. Hand cannons were used extensively throughout the middle ages.
Carson Williams
>recreational nukes Is that something you inhale? Sounds like a drug that could shatter my world.
Josiah Ortiz
well the go check statistics per state, even white states have at least tripple the numbers of belgium.
remove non whites from statistics and normalize to per capita for population disparity.
The USA will become the safest country on that list.
Jeremiah Bennett
The decline in homicide slowed following the passage of the Australian NFA.
Adrian Stewart
would you consider Massachusetts stats to be example of low minority state? Would it surprise you it would fail per capita against european nations in same statistics?
I said RATE of gun crime, not the literal number you mouth breathing retard
or is that too complicated for your dum-dum slavshit brain to understand?
Daniel Cruz
Such a BS thread. Guns are banned in chiraq, yet is the murder capitol of the U.S. Homicides by firearms actually went up in every county that banned guns. 2013/12/murder-and-homicide-rates-before-and-after-gun-bans/
But let's not let facts get in the way of b8 posting. Sage and hidden. Stop taking the bait, children.
I have no doubt that you wont be convicted by hard evidence, and rather post picture where they choose interval to consider based on the data they want.
Blake Perez
>imagine if he used gas and killed (((6))) million >gas yourself faggot
Lucas Roberts
d-d-did you just shown that niggers have not much impact on homicide rates?
Jayden Morris
I wonder what that number looks like broken down by race?
Jose Clark
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Christian Lee
> true >buttfucking lil boys was ok too.... >human evolution you chimp
Colton Martin
Here's a better graph of that
Nicholas Sullivan
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Jason Thomas
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Carson Ross
Black people have high rates of homicide due to a degeneration of culture starting in the 1960s that lead to high rates of fatherlessness.
John King
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Ryder Scott
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Isaac Morales
but the funny thing is that theres so little of black people that they have no impact on overall statistics per state ;)
as shown here you done goofed
Jaxon Lewis
>"guns murdered" How does an inanimate object commit murder?
Angel Martin
You're a retard, one is gun ownership the other is race. Is your IQ below 75?
Julian Perez
the fucking courts are faggots who would rather hear cases about how much education retards need to have, than whether or not some shitty law should be considered "infringing"
Jose Carter
Youre right I honestly believe citizens should be allowed to own everything the military does. The founding fathers owned cannons. Nukes and biological weapons should be the only thing banned.
Xavier Butler
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Jackson Nguyen
X axis is of no importance what is interesting is Y axis where we see homicide rate and where the varioius state fall there.
So seeing it nicely plainly that white states like arizona and arkansaw are at the similar level as hell hole war zone chicaho illionis
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Elijah Smith
Best graphs I've seen on Sup Forums - very easy to understand and interpret
Jose Perry
>mfw someone says the X variable isn't important.
Hahahahahahaha
Nathan Collins
Eat a bag of dicks
Noah Martin
>andrewleigh.org/pdf/GunBuyback_Panel.pdf Here's the substitution effect alluded to in this PDF. This why gun policy correlates with gun homicide but not homicide in general.
Eli Nguyen
>X axis is of no importance You're either a troll or the most retarded person on here
Nathan Jackson
No. Mass has these bands of niggerhoods around boston and worcester.
It's not even your fucking country, and apparently you're using the most basic bitch data you can find that ignores race entirely. If we compare those state to % of black and hispanics, the homicides should correlate. Iowa being very huwhite, AL, LA, and Maryland being blacker than the average state, New Mexico being rabid mexicans. oh I see, you're a nigger. carry on.
Tyler Ward
>So seeing it nicely plainly that white states like arizona and arkansaw are at the similar level as hell hole war zone chicaho illionis
Illinois and Arkansas have nearly identical population demographics. Maybe google before you type things that aren't true?
Ethan Taylor
oh, you retarted :( you dont understand that X axis could be about # of hotdogs eaten but positioning of states on Y axis would still give us info about homicides per capita
Ryan King
>murder isn't relevant if it was done with something other than a gun
Back when sweden wasn't cucked you slavs were our slaves.
Brandon Morris
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Adam Gray
>guns murder people
Does this mean that we should put guns in jail and release the person that pulled the trigger?
Oliver Myers
i like how the liberals line the kids up for easier shooting.
Leo Long
You're the retard that doesn't understand that the X you are correlating with Y is how a relationship between a given pair is analyzed. There's no relationship between gun ownership and firearm homicides, but when you do it between %black and firearm homicides there is a very clear pattern. Can you not read a simple graph.
Isaiah Sanders
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Jonathan Flores
1. Yes you can 2. Yes you can 3. Yes you can 4. Cali sucks shit
Nathan Thomas
how many guns murdered americans in 2016?
how many of those where nigger on nigger?
how many of those where from chimpcago lol
Hudson Rodriguez
lets clear something up first do you understand basic premise that if you have these type of graphs that you can do some analysis without being interested in one of the axis as what you might be interested in is the position of data objects relative to single axis and to each other?
You know the thing commonly known as a fucking bar graph?
Levi Watson
See
Nathan Rivera
inb4 >motherjones
Chase Sanders
>that you can do some analysis without being interested in one of the axis Yeah you can look at a state here and a state there by itself, but that's called CHERRY PICKING your data points. You need to look at the whole TREND across all states. Otherwise you're just a retard.
Noah Richardson
>>cant own tank with functional firing system wrong, but most coaxial machine guns will need to be removed sometimes because of production dates.
a 200mm howitzer is eaiser to obtain than a machine gun
>cant own rpg launchers wrong
$500 destructive device tax
>cant own fully automated guns wrong $250 tax stamp
>cant own higher capacity magazines in some states those are not federal laws
also, none of those countries are even half the size of america, why no russian, or chinese, or south african statistics?