America V China

America V China

I keep seeing on the news things getting more and more heated between China and America in the pacific, Is war a likely possibility abd if so who would win

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the rest of the world would win

America would win at a high cost barring the involvement of nuclear weapons.

Follow canada's example
>If you sell your houses you win.

Does China have nukes that can hit America?

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>move to Vancouver
>safe from both sides
Prove me wrong.

The jews

>the rest of the world would win
Wouldve said fpbp except for the fact youre from one of two countries who wouldnt benefit (hint: the other is best korea). Pinche joto

>Is war a likely possibility abd if so who would win

Well Americans already lost to Asians once.

Canada will just nuke their own major cities to save itself. War will just be a great excuse to do it.

As it is right now, definitely America. In the future though... it'll depend on how far along we are with correcting all the damage done by Leftism/Jews/degenerates etc.

Shitty bait

Touché
>if you nuke your own cities, you win

she would

made worse by the humiliating and quick defeat of the chinks by vietnam. aswell as china's last winning way being agaisnt a few hundred slav peasants in Manchuria 400 years agho

>baguettes didn't lose against Vietnam first.

>implying you won't be annexed after America starts cutting down Canadian forests for war materiel

checked

>builds stealth bombers and nukes from trees
Neat!

Won't happen because there's too much money in trade. Trump would have to personally shlong Xi Jinping in the face to start a war.

Much obliged.

Democrats will invite CCP to take over US, due to Russian interference.
> NO war, just surrender from the left.

any major war involving nato would surely see the collapse of the west, if we were the ones invading.

nobody is even white anymore in the military its a fucking joke

we live in a postwar society, nuclear states will never face eachother in traditional warfare ever again.

too real fambro

>move to Vancouver

And live in this lovely $2,400,000 house?

I'm not joking by the way.

this kind of shit is why war with china is inevitable

what age are you, 15?

Good, send in shitskins to die

Is that eligible for the Russian draft

Not likely. Nukes prevent war between any nuclear powers. China's economy would be significantly harmed without the option to export to the US. The US economy would be harmed if they can't outsource to China (all though not as much, since we have other developing countries we can switch to).

China just wants North Korea between them and the SK/Japan/US alliance in Asia. NK being completely insane dissuades those states from having more influence in the region. Of course, China will turn against NK immediately if they actually attack anybody - hence why their spokespeople are preaching caution to all parties and not lobbying too much criticism.

>China
>going to war with their largest trading partner

Nah their economy would collapse, even they know that.

This has been simulated before.

Literally done with severe handicaps for USA as well and USA always wins, with losses.

China is never fully annexed, but most of it's industry is fucked.

There is a reason China is violating several International Laws building Radar Bases, Airfields, Military Ports, SAAM Emplacements and various other important buildings like barracks and arms factories on their artificial islands.

China knows a war is coming. Assuming it's purely USA vs China, then China loses, even if USA does not take advantage of various advantages like Diego Garcia, Guam, Australia and South Korea.

>Jap kicked baguettes out of Vietnam in 45'.
>American kicked Jap out of Vietnam.
>VN got full support from chink and USSR.
>American pull out.
>Chink tried ti invade VN in 79'.
>Chink got kicked out again.
Man i fucking hate chink backstabber

>Implying it won't anyway

they're going to run out of food by 2030 too and we're not going to let them overfish the lucrative south china sea trade routes. It's coming.

>annexed
nigga what

Fucking Mexicans, all retarded dirtbags.

The world's two greatest economies at war with each other would fuck up the entire world.

We would absolutely destroy China

They did.
LAWS is a gamechanger. Perhaps thats why hillary was pushing for war, striking before adversaries get similar capabilities.

Just think what comes after USA "wins". You think China turns into DPRK 2.0 ? You can't just isolate China the same way and they will continue to develop their capability and USA will never solve them if it will consider it a "problem". USA can't solve North Korea problem, let alone much more hostile post-war China.
You don't know Chinese, after the war they will not betray Communist party, they will love them even more and work harder, because it would prove everything Communist party told them about the age of humiliation and western attempts to block China from prosperity.

I hadn't thought of that, but it's a good point. Considering they're also polluting the shit out of their water as well as their soil, I'm sure it won't end well for them.

Battle tested vs Chinese knockoff engineering...

After the recent SoS visit, it seems more likely that there may be a war against NK with the US/China against the NK.

If the Chinese make their military like they make the products they ship out, USA would win hands down.

probably be after our uranium more than anything. To be honest I'd prefer annexation by the US over a lot of shit right now. Our resources + your population = unbeatable.

I imagine that would last about three minutes. I think it was in Vault 7 that the US has been hacking the nork's missile launches for lulz.

Africa too. They're going to recolonize it if we don't. Already hard at work.
It's a fuck of a lot harder to advance scientifically and pose a threat if you've just been cruise missile'd back to the stone age and you're people are starving and homeless. Add ethnic rebels in the east revolting and it's a lot better position for us then if we let them go now and fuck our economies.
soon

If Trump successfully removes China from our market and makes america great again, not really.
If there really is a hegemonic shift China will not be allowed to take up the mantle easily.
If China was smart they'd be weaponizing socialism and making the rest of the world ready to accept communism and shun capitalism...... oh wait.

I meant you'll never take anything from them of worth.

>just been cruise missile'd back to the stone age
i guess you and more than half of /pol are real children who don't use their brains. You don't fucking know anything but you run your dirty mouths like a cheap slut on the millionaire 's dick.

It'll be interesting to see what they can do with Africa. Many others have tried and failed.

More than likely just waiting to see who cucks out first

Isn't China's manufacturing capability far greater than America's? This is the only thing that worries me. We've shipped our production overseas, and in a war scenario, that production capability is going to be crucial.

China could turn out massive quantities of weapons and have basically infinite manpower to back it up.

Our power projection capability is much greater, but what is that actually mean if there's no way we could win a land war in China? We could bomb the shit out of them for decades and not really get anywhere but bankrupt.

I don't think there's a winner either way.

We'd take anything we fucking want with trump in charge. Get a better PM and you can join in too
war with china would make a commie purge happen. my war boner is strong
>nod an argrumend
Fuck watching and letting them get stronger than us-let's fucking do it ourselves.

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if they breed with the nogs maybe it'll make them smart enough to actually run a country.

surround china's sealanes and put harpoons into everything that swims, then close the routes they use to grow food and the whole thing will collapse in a 2 months to infighting and revolutions.

not knowing the french losing against the Vietcong was the reason for US involvement in the first place.
germany why are you such cucks

USA winning while losing its superpower status. Just like britain in ww1.

re-unite the Anglo nations! UAS - United Anglo States

Here's a neat video on the topic. bear with the zany presentation

youtube.com/watch?v=J3VqF2dXje0

Just like how the war on terror instigated a muslim purge?

Don't forget how cucked up the world is.

All that and your country is now a shitty socialist country

I'm sad I likely won't live long enough to see the dark continent swarming with hot blasians.

Why do you think riots don't break down in North Korea?

Nigger failing to cosplay Prairie Nigger.

Brutal repression and effective, omnipresent propaganda?

LOL, France lost against the Vietnamese first, that's why the US went in. Damn, I guess the German education system really is rubbish.

the muslims weren't rioting in the streets calling for the assassination of the president

Don't forget who's in charge and how angry white men can be when pushed hard enough.

Mean while, Australians drink beers and watch the shitstorm. We'll be a superpower yet.

Now explain it to stupid american kids in this thread that China is not USA and they will not tolerate protests during the war time and sea blocade.

Bumperino

I approve of this picture.
But you know we don't fuck spiders, right?

Let's not act like it's certain. This isn't a video game. 1916 wasn't looking very good for France and they ended up beating Germany, with every other Western country joining them of course

Look, what they don't know, is only to our benefit.

One thing I can say about the USA, Russia, China, and North Korea combined would never win a war against the USA. People just do not have any understanding of how powerful the US military really is. For example, just one submarine in the middle of the Pacific could wipe out half of China by itself. Not to mention all of the other technological abilities that the US has. If we are talking about a nuclear war, it would mean that Russia, China, and North Korea would be nothing more than a nuclear wasteland. They cannot win. They will never win.

I agree with you and your argument that China is too large to be isolated. I don't there will be a war, just status quo steadily drifting towards China acquiring greater power and overland trade to the rest of Eurasia. Their adventures in Africa will continue, possibly with hilarious results. I think the whole India/Pakistan thing is a more likely future war, maybe with Chinese involvement based on proximity.

Japans primary trading partner in 1939 was the USA.

So trade interdependence is not a sure way to avoid war.

War will last 2 hours, all of China and out major cities will be glass

USA by far. Gg ez now don't fucking let it happen. WW3 or any major war is a perfect tool of control.

im too high to understand this 2d globe

this.

We need to be able to shoot down every nuke or there's going to be a lot of hand-rubbing
no-you're just retarded

Our economies are way too intertwined at this point for anything to happen.

Also China's in a bit of a crap spot right now geopolitics-wise.

Currently US and Russian relations are improving.

If the US is on good terms with Japan, South Korea, and Russia all at once, then China's fucked in terms of fronts. If anything actually serious happens, there's not much doubt NK will crumple near immediately if ground wars start taking place.

Two countries lie on opposites sides of the world with an ocean between them. One has the allies of the other nearby with forward military bases in their nations and naval zones. The other shares a border with a country getting all its real estate bought up and another country getting a wall, neither with real political connection to the other country.

If a war between the two actually happens what do you think would happen?

If you looked at any major conflict in Chinese history, you'd know that Chinks have zero problem with killing their own by the millions

>Is war a likely possibility
Probably which is why I think the whole hate against Russia is fucking stupid. We need to really cement a strong alliance with them to keep China in check

Sadly, you wouldn't China has over a billion people and all military theorists have speculated that while the USA, on it's own (with only help being bases in Japan + South Korea) against China on it's own, will result in USA winning with moderate losses...

But China will not be 'annexed'. China would not be defeated. As in, conventional military will be relatively safe purely because range of bombers and fighter escorts into Western China is not possible.

The coast will be wrecked, their industry will be wrecked. But military will be safely out of range unless you suddenly get bases in Mongolia or Nepal or whatever.

This is fact. This is base literally on technological limitations. You cannot destroy the remainder of China just with ballistic missiles, sadly.

Furthermore, in the event of a war, it's highly likely Norks will join, Burma will be railroaded into helping and Taiwan may agree to reunify with them.

Unlikely China would win even then. With support USA will destroy the coastal regions of China. Hong Kong will probably use the time to try and get independence.

tl;dr, you won't fully defeat China.

War probably impossible because Trump very quickly flip-floped on his postions on one China policy. Someone like smacked him and explained what would be repercussions of such actions so he can't start war.
But Trump is pumping American millitary with money waaaay much and the next or next-next president will operate extremelly powerfull army that would be on unprecedented level and that army could embolden next president on very dangerous moves in Asia. This is beyond doubt. China should really their nuclear arsenal and change nuclear doctrine to be "always ready" or something about it. I heard that right now China don't even attach its nuclear warheads to rockets. And less than 100 warheads are not enough to scare Americans, just look at the retards in this thread. They don't fear that their cities could turn into burning craters if their country attacks China.

but they would be weakened for round two
mechs and hovercarriers soon

>Taiwan may agree to reunify with them.
Lmao no

I once heard someone make the argument that they don't keep their nukes in an easily deployable/usable state because the leadership doesn't actually trust anybody. China has a long history of warlordism after all.

Too funny that the Chinese are usually smart enough to not trust other Chinese. We can learn something from that.

Yeah that's true, we don't really fear it. We'd win the nuclear battle pretty easily, with only a few of our cities getting wiped out. We could shoot down most of their shit and kill a billion gooks without much effort.

>USA, Russia, China, and North Korea combined would never win a war against the USA

>USA education

gook friend of mine said chinks are boycotting korean goods, and planning a travel ban to korea

He's right. We could fight you drunk faggots, a billion gooks and their starving little nigger neighbors, and a civil war at once, and still come out on top.

You gotta remember that they don't have an economy

That was one sided, it wasn't interdependance.

When the US stopped trading and initiated an oil embargo, we got our wish, Pearl Harbor.

Next generation submarine type 096 is supposed to sail independent in ocean so they will train specialists who could be trusted. USSR also had many traitors in ranks, but it never stopped from having complicated chains of command with high responsibility on lower links.