Is there a causal link between masturbation, porn...

Is there a causal link between masturbation, porn, and the increasing number of millennial men not pursuing a relationship with women?

1. Real girls are degenerates.
2. Resort to hentai.

it has more to do with the internet in general. you can get Instant gratification anytime now

people would rather stay home and play on the internet

No

No, but there might be a link between the rising temperature of the earth and the increasing number of millennial men not pursuing a relationship with women.

Yes

Nope. It all has to do with industrial society.

I imagine it's not as strong a causal link as ultra-hypergamous thots and other factors like a massive percentage of the population not making any real money anymore.

>no rape allegations
>not losing half your shit
>no nagging
>no inlaws to deal with
>no abuse

There is no incentive to want a wife these days.

Have you ever heard women saying anything about it? I don't think so. And we are talking about a game that two play. In other words, there is no such problem at all.

I think porn to some extent influences this. There's not as much desire to pursue women since you can just download someone hotter than most women you'll ever meet. I refuse to believe that guys in the classical era or whatever didn't jerk one out regularly.

Yes.

I noticed if i go on a fap/porn streak for week straight.

I am SIGNIFICANTLY less interested in women in the following week

for 1 week straight*

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>There is no incentive to want a wife these days.
Except the kids, better orgasms, and having extra income/a housekeeper.

Throughout history men have sought a female to procreate with - it is our number one objective as a living organism.
How do you get to procreate with a female? You perform mating rituals. Birds show off their feathers, lizards croak, humans date.

Sexual gratification is one of the biggest drivers for this and porn fulfills it to an extent.

I'm 28, I've had GF's basically non stop since I was 16. Time for some me time and to get a better man to hand relationship.

I think that pornography entices people away from life. So that's not good. It's a quick, easy, low quality solution to a complex problem. I can't see its use as something that increases integrity and promotes strength. Why do something if it makes you weak? Unless you wish to be weak...

>and the increasing number of millennial men not pursuing a relationship with women?

So I guess this is another thread where Sup Forums thinks women are oppressed because guys won't date them? I'm so sick of this same white knight theme over and over again.

>"user i really can't stay with a man that is lazy and doesn't work as i do"
>nailbiting, stressed, 10 hours per day wageslave for a jew corporation
>"i obviously want no kids because pregnancy is gross"
>"we should just work and make sex"
>i left my job 1 month ago because it was making my life hell and
>this conversation happens
>mfw

i thought she was the one bois

i thought.

KYS

>kids
>incentive

The kids are gone when she divorces you. She'll be busy fucking Jamal, not you. She isn't going to work and todays women don't want to maintain a house.

>implying married people fuck
>implying modern women can cook or clean
>implying you're taking on anything more than a parasite
women are genetic waste

Kill me, Pete

Bingo. How can a man seriously think about starting a family when he can barely pay rent. Even if it seemed economically feasible, starting a family with a woman who will likely leave you for the next best thing, taking the kids and your money with her, is just too much of a risk for many men to consider. It's comes down to a lack of both economic security and loyalty really.

>people would rather stay home and play on the internet
this tbqhwy. I'm nothing but a degenerate scumbag loser. maybe other Sup Forumstards actually are successful, but I know I'm not.

So just like Sup Forums then

Married people in a good relationship do fuck user.

With the advent of the internet porn went from being something taboo that you'd have to shell out for magazines and VHS tapes for, to suddenly something that you can shut yourself in your room for as long as you want, and there is more porn available than you can watch in the rest of your life. Porn is now marketed to men as being important as food and shelter. The degree of exposure is definitely going to have an impact on people.

>Implying you've ever been married
>Implying you've had a women in your house
>Implying you're not gonna die alone
By not breeding you are genetic waste.

>extra income/housekeeper
Pretty idealized tbqh
More likely she'll either sit on her ass at home and contribute little to nothing, or end up a drain when she divorces you and you're stuck with alimony payments

Depends on your definition of success.

I'm financially stable, but single

This image reminds me of what we lost and why our civilizations are in decline. And if you think about it: it is appaling how utterly pathetic, ineffective and weak the so called "conservatives" for the last 90 years were that led the destruction of the classical marriage and family happen. These losers lost every fucking cultural battle to the left! Every single one. And they didn't even notice it, because of muh moneyz.

Fuck these losers! And especially fuck the fucking boomers!

That's exactly how it begins

This desu. 3D women are not important.

My coworkers are married for a long time and I hear them bitch about going weeks on end without getting laid.
Why would a man want to take on such high risk of getting divorced, kids taken away, losing house etc. when you can get laid more frequently (in the long run) by NOT being married.

I honestly doubt people are masterbating any more frequently than they are now, the only difference is the quality of porn. Everyone has always jerked off throughout the history of humanity. People don't want to get married because women are the fucking devil when it comes to divorce settlements.

Get rid of no-fault, get rid of alimony, marriage would xploded.

Because I'm an irresponsible lazy piece of shit.

kill me, pete

First post saiko post.

I just hate women. I finally decided to meet some girls after being an autistic shut in. I make new friends and then fuck one but it turns out she was on her period. The cunt didn't tell me and my sheets got all nasty. Now I'm going back to school and vidya.

Probably to some degree, but nofap hasn't improved my desire to get into a relationship.

Women just aren't worth it these days. Why should I be expected to settle down with some whore who's fucked other people? Why should I have to cater to the entitled attitudes of someone who's cheated me out of the most intimate experience a couple can share? Why should I commit for something she's already given away for free?

Regardless, even if women weren't terrible, our economic prospects are.

the reality is feminism is scaring a lot of men away from women

the american dream, conservative, traditional, submissive wife is long gone.

no, it is because women can ruin your life if they feel like it. Besides sex, there are no good reasons to be in a relationship.

I unironically 100% believe this.
>masturbation doesn't cost money and you can get it when you want without bullshit
>porn is everywhere, for free, and you can stick with one age group with great bodies as long as you want
>pictures can't break your heart

This is a generation of instant gratification. Why would you trifle with hooking up with sluts when you can save all that time, effort, money, and bullshit?

>pic related, what you will always choose over 2 kids and a 250 lb she-beast

A real man isn't afraid of getting a little blood on his sword. Maybe it's better you didn't reproduce, good job user.

Hell, sometimes they even worked to destroy marriage, Hans.

They didn't truly contest feminism, the sexual revolution passed them by (Now they go for low-hanging fruit like gay marriage and trannies in bathrooms); however, the second biggest blow to marriage, "No-fault divorce," was actually delivered by Conservative patron saint Ronald Reagan.

While serving as Governor of California, he passed it. After Reagan did it, it caught on among other states, even the deeply Conservative ones. Almost immediately after Reagan did that, divorce went through the roof.

The only people I hate more than Leftists at this point are Conservatives. At least the Left has the audacity to fight for their beliefs. Hell, at least the Left actually has beliefs.

Most men aren't looking for a 1950's stay at home wife that cooks and cleans all day.

But most women still seem to be looking for a 1950 breadwinner that does nothing but work himself to the bone to provide for her.

Feminism told men they had to "earn" a women, while women "deserve" a good man simply for being.

This was literally the reason my ex broke up with me

You are going to regret what you are doing. You will regret it for decades.

Maybe it's a trick of the light or the stockings, but I can't help but feeling like she needs to wash her ass out a bit more.

Also, BRRRAAAAPPTHPsssss

I wish they would all stop.

We are reaching a breaking point. The meek will spiral further into pixel pleasures while the bold inherit the earth.

The next two decades will be insane. Actually, everything from now on will be a mad ride, forever.

No going back

I believe it has ruined my life, emotionally speaking

She was masturbating to porn too much and lost interest in you? That's rough, at least you still have porn though.

No, its called feminism. Can't fuck something that doesn't want to be fucked.

Have you tried not looking at porn? Or at least not seeking it out actively? It could help, you probably aren't "ruined", but may be ruining yourself for the time being by indulging yourself too much. Give it a try, you can still jerk it, just don't watch porn when you do it.

I wish women would temporarily and safely get sucked into a void for a few years. Can you imagine the scientific progress men would achieve while frantically trying to find ways to make babies without women? I want a genetically engineered catgirl.

...

That was also Reagan? Looks like the reality of him was much worse than his marketing image. He was also the one man who truly got the deregulation of financial capitalism going and made massive tax brakes to the billionaire class.

And Merkel and Theresa May are also supposed to be "conservatives". These people ruined our countries more than both world wars combined.

Well, that is rooted in the Christian-Germanic glorification of the woman princess and romantic love. - A very alien concept to Middle Eastern and Asian cultures.

No, porn merely helps satisfy an urge. I'll pursue a relationship when I find a woman who's actually worthy of attention. Not interested in financing vapid whores.

>can't fuck something that doesn't want to be fucked.
Now, see... That's where you're wrong buddy.

Any extra income from her busy work job is dwarfed by the extra expenditures that she creates. You don't come out ahead. Even "sharing expenses" doesn't save money because she is going to demand a home that's more than twice as big as what you'd need for yourself. Same goes for almost everything in the house, from furniture to clothes. She will more than double the cost of everything "shared".

I have tried but sooner or later I give in to the urge to see something. Actually, it usually starts fairly innocently but it always escalates and I always give up and go back to it. I've despaired of ever giving it up.

I've never been able to love a woman.

It's not like going through detox off heroin, where you have a few days of hell and then it's pretty much over, it's a continuous battle that you have to keep working on. I know it's hard, I've tried to cut it out of my life and still slip up time to time, but you owe it to your ancestors and yourself not to be a genetic dead end. Just take it day by day, and if you happen to give in then at least don't give up. Made my life better, you can do it too.

There are two types of girlfriends:

1. Girlfriend. You aren't 100% close. You don't tell each other everything. She needs you as financial support. She buys a lot of clothes/shoes/bullshit. Keeps secrets among each other. She's slept around a lot before. Nothing much more than roommates after some years of marriage. Divorces you eventually and steals half your stuff plus alimony. Modern women.

2. Girlfriend that's also your best friend. Shares everything together. Get along very well. No secrets shared. You've known her since primary school.

Don't ever marry the first type. Only consider marrying the second type.
In terms of quality of life: marrying BFGF > staying single > marrying GF.
I'm lucky to have found my BFGF.

What use can I get out of women that isn't blatantly obvious?

I think there is. I just think of myself. If I can rub one out and quickly be done with the urgency to reproduce and pursue my life as if nothing happened. I successfully cheated my brain.

The only thing though, a screen cannot love you or cook you breakfast. So I'm improving myself to eventually get a girlfriend and ideally a wife later...

>This is an emergency and we must get you laid

Tried tinder? Diamonds in the rough I've found.

this

Good for you user. Want to describe your huge cock, vast wealth, and good looks also? I'm half joking, but you did twist the knife a little there :^)

Quality shitpost, mate! Also he should remember to start dating girls that he brings home from the bar.

I'm starting to think so. I only have anecdotal evidence, but I'm contented with a mild, dull loneliness if it means not having to pursue a vapid cunt. Porn and masturbation keeps that loneliness dull