Female orgasm is an evolutionary by-product from male orgasm

Supporters of the byproduct theory liken the female orgasm to male nipples [source: Yoder]. As fetuses develop, all are outfitted with the anatomical precursors to nipples, although they only offer a direct reproductive advantage to women for feeding their babies. But since that's such a favorable trait, evolution didn't go to the painstaking trouble of weeding nipples out of the male population. In other words, men have nipples because women do. Likewise, clitoral and penile tissues are borne of the same embryological stuff, developing into one or the other once biological sex traits set in. The hooded glans, packed with 8,000 nerve endings, is just the visible tip of the internal clitoral structure that extends up and around the vagina and engorges during arousal much like the penis [source: Gonzalez]. Therefore, female orgasms could exist because that clitoral anatomy was under no evolutionary pressure to disappear.

>health.howstuffworks.com/sexual-health/sexuality/orgasm4.htm

Thoughts?

Other urls found in this thread:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21210957
amazon.com/Case-Female-Orgasm-Science-Evolution/dp/0674022467
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As long as I cum, I am satisfied.

no wonder women love black cock

The female orgasm was a mistake.

How did you come to that conclusion after reading this? I think you misunderstood.

None of this is mentioned in my Bible
DROPPED

this
very good post Australia

WTF is that

>he's never fucked a large clit girl
clit
fucking idiot

Female penis (clitoris)

wtf i like dick now

i-is that a feminine penis?

>female orgasm
>real

lol, I bet you think global warming is real too

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>now

huehuehu I love that guy
He reminds me of my father

I unironically like big clits

Why?

I don't really know, I guess because it's different? But not in a "i have endometriosis" way. Would be fun to fool around with and sure as hell isn't hard to stimulate.

>making reproduction pleasurable is something evolutionarily selected for
Really makes you think

But it's technically a penis

It's not that simple.

*Feminine penis :^)

My clit looks like a mini dick.

Can i see it?

it draws semen further into the vagina so its actually advantageous to reproduction

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21210957

No it doesn't.

Prove it with oc, or fuck off attention whore.

This is offtopic but this whole idea of reducing all humans thoughts and emotions to MAH EVOLUTIONZ is Jewish degeneracy. All materialist kike pseudoscientists that promoted this will hang from a cozy lamppost on the DOTR.

>posts link as proof
>doesn't read the contents

"_All_ the experimental observations of sperm or model substitute's transport have been undertaken in women _who were not sexually aroused_."

"is at present unresolvable because of conflicting studies"

Also, they did not use methods involving direct research where they could offer alternative variables to existing experiments. i.e. Actually arousing subjects during experiments

I am weary to sign off anatomy that rewards the reproductive act of coitus as "holdover tissue".
Male nipples serve no known purpose whatsoever, a clitorus serves as a trigger to reward chemicals.

I saw what you did here

There is literally zero evidence that female orgasm sucks sperm up to the uterus. The fact that women's ability to achieve orgasm varies and is so inconsistent is even further proof against it. Most women have trouble, and some women can't do it at all.

Upsuck theory is just one of those popular myths.

>technically a penis

Well no, technically its not a penis.

We're talking about evolutionary adaptations. Mini dicks might be fun for girls to play with but they are still just vestigial penises.

Male nipples can actually lactate btw

That's like saying male nipples aren't nipples.

He's technically right though. A foetus always starts female. A dick is just a big clit if we're arguing semantics.

>That's like saying male nipples aren't nipples.

Naw, its like saying "technically, testicles are ovaries" or "technically, men are women." Remember, if you're going to use "technically..." or "LITERALLY," you shouldn't use them when you mean "analogously..." or "metaphorically..." or "figuratively..."

S'right

hold on mate, the issue I have with you is that you can't go around saying a straight out "No it doesn't" and attempt to provide scientific evidence to prove your point without reading it properly.

Now if you're going to say "there is literally zero evidence" then that's another thing. It doesn't mean it's not proven true or false, it just means there is no evidence, and as shown by your link there are conflicting studies and thus the matter is currently "unresolvable".

Fair enough if you want to speculate though, we don't all have time and resources to conduct experiments to add to the evidence base. So you say inconsistency is further proof against it, yet penis size is also inconsistent. Maybe this just creates differences between good stock and bad stock. Don't forget there are barren women and infertile men too - proof that inconsistencies should be expected between individuals.

No, I just think you're a closet faggot obsessed with dicks.
It's not a dick, you tranny. It is one seperate thing that changes into EITHER a dick or a clit.
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

No, that's not right. Because clitoris and penises ARE THE SAME THING. So it's more like women have penises that they don't use.

While it's true that in absence of a y chromosome to activate the embryo's gonads to turn into testicles the embryo will go onto develop as a female, it is NOT true and a terrible over simplification that we "start off as female". We start off as "sexually indifferent", meaning we have all the parts necessary to become either male or female and are just "waiting" for further "instruction".

Sup Forums men literally BTFO. Women just need hitachi vibrator and a tub of ice cream and there is ZERO need for a man and his stupid hobbies like hunting and fishing and working on cars.

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Bingo. OP is a faggot that craves dicks.

Ok but it's still just semantics. You say a clit is just a small penis, i say a penis is just a big clit. Either way i guess we're right. But now we have a new question, can girls have penises?

So... Now females are actually a type of males and their penis is their clit?
Wait a second, what if this is true now because it was memed?
That fempenis meme could be behind all of this, DARN YOU REALITY STOP BENDING AND SHIT

I need to take some pills and lie down.

>Because clitoris and penises ARE THE SAME THING
>which is why we have different names for them

>tfw circumcised by kike

>you tranny.

How the fuck do you get that I'm a tranny from this thread? This is literally the most anti-feminist anti-LGBT anti-liberal thread currently on the board

Enjoy believing in bogus myths.

I know that FUCKING feel bro.

>people actually WANT to fuck this without a condom

I'd probably throw up if that touched my dick

wtf im gay now

It wasnt selected against, you can say that much
The question is why is male orgasm selected for, and why other female animals dont have clits or orgasms

I can start calling my nipples a new anatomical name, doesn't mean they're not vestigial breast tissue.

Because it's obvious.
Kill yourself, tranny.

So banging chicks makes me a faggot?

>The question is why is male orgasm selected

Because pleasurable ejaculations make men spread their seed to as many females as possible.

>and why other female animals dont have clits or orgasms

All animals that have penises have females that have clitoris.

Wtf obv
I bet you kiss them too fag

Thats probably just a steriod clit, they get big like that when women take extended steroids like for rheumatoud arthritis.

>Because clitoris and penises ARE THE SAME THING.

Again, you mean figuratively, they're kinda-ish a similar thing, in your opinion. Or if it makes you feel better, clitorises are to penises what female intelligence is to male intelligence.

D-does that work for men too?

>Sup Forums would suck a woman's undeveloped penis

The problem with this is that you're implying the clitoris is a thing of it's own. As if it's anything other than a vestigial undeveloped penis. It's not.

Ex-GF of mine has a large clit, about half that size. Amazing sex with her. I had to be very careful, delicate and gentle at first. Eventually, as her excitement built, I could get increasingly more aggressive. But, to really make her cum, there had to be copious stimulation inside her vagina and then almost not touch her clit at all while she was peaking out.

Really miss her a lot. Could go down on her for an hour or two at a time, teasing her for 20 or 30 minutes at a time, make her cum, start again, repeat four or five or more times. Never once got tired of it.

For all we know that link is out of date, if you have anything newer that actually studied this directly and found that it was a myth then please share it and I'll take a look. I'm not one to shun the facts when presented irrefutably.

If you cbf'd then np user.

>be freshman
>have no friends really
>go out tonight with some people from my floor who welcome me with open arms
>feels good to be a normie for a little
>spend 5 hours at bars with the group
>we split up and I go with one guy to another bar to pick up a womyn
>spend literally 3 hours trying to find a girl to go home with (have standards)
>friend already has a girl so I'm literally alone in a bar on my first night out ever
>kiss 3 different women, they all leave me
>run into two girls from my floor, make out with one of them and she leaves too
>walk home with her roommate
>not sober enough to notice she is flirting with me on the way back
>hug her when I get to my door and leave her
>tfw I just realized what I did
>tfw I'm still a virgin
Is anybody else THAT guy? The one who always fucks up just a little bit to ruin his chances to do something?

Nope. Would be sweet if it did.

>The problem with this is that you're implying the clitoris is a thing of it's own.

The problem with this is that you're delving into your own philosophical musings and presenting it as objective fact.

Just google "female orgasm byproduct theory". It's everywhere.

There is even a book about it:

amazon.com/Case-Female-Orgasm-Science-Evolution/dp/0674022467

Sup Forums would suck a womans undeveloped penis

Sup Forums would suck a womans undeveloped fetus

so... you sucked her dick?

>her dick
>her
>dick

stahp

Just google "theory"

All women have dicks except in Islamic countries.

fucking sucks. but we can get 90% back if we restore. as long as your frenulum wasn't scraped off, you only lost a small bit of it.

I've been torturing myself over this way too much. we can mostly recover, don't lose hope!

You have been chosen by god to slaughter the Jew, be proud of your motivation.

flag checks out

Are some girls just extra hard to get off, or is there any truth to the 'females don't have orgasms' meme?
I have a pretty decently sized dick, but it's so fucking hard to get my gf to cum. She even says she finds it hard to cum when she masturbates.

I still manage most of the time out of sheer determination, but for ages it just never happened and it made me really paranoid. Fucked another girl a while back though and she came no problem. What's the deal?

not going to lie, it gave me a reason to dislike them when I otherwise would not have had one

But not female orgasms

Because female orgasm does not need to happen for pregnancy to occur.

I often wonder if the entire thing is some ritual magic dating back to Solomon, that there are ruling bloodlines of Jews that are uncut.

They can have orgasms, but the source of their orgasms is their clitoris. If you really want to get her off fast just lick her dick.

But in my opinion there is no point in bothering. Just fuck her, cum, fart, then go to sleep. Female orgasms are weird and should be shamed.

Have been reading various articles since you posted this. The overall view is that it remains a mystery. Even Lloyd, the author of the book you linked to, admits that new evidence could come out and that her conclusions are bound to the limited evidence. Also, experiments have been very limited. Not only are they decades old (or only used one subject), but they were not actually looking to prove this hypothesis.

It seems Lloyd is more interested in pushing the feminist agenda anyway. Sure, it may be helpful that she has compiled and reviewed a list of research projects, but the sentiment in her blurb demonstrates that she is considerably keen to point the finger at the "male-centrist" methods in science.

So basically, until modern practical studies are carried out to delve into this question, this whole subject remains a mystery with only best guesses in play.

Huh...That actually makes a shit ton of sense, in terms of Biology.
So does that mean my gf in particular is just a fussy cunt? Apparently some girls cum super easily, but In order to get my gf off I have to go so hard that I feel like I'm going to die from a heart attack or something.

>Just fuck her, cum, fart, then go to sleep
Toppest of keks m8.

Why should they be shamed though user? I am curious. I think it's hot to see a girl cum but I do agree they're weird.

Gotta work on your cardio mate

Pls respond to blog post what do wrong

I doubt it. I think it had practical uses for primitive people and became a stupid tradition thing. We no longer require it, but back in the day actually getting phimosis could have meant never being able to breed. It must have seemed like a horrible fate to them, they probably related it to God somehow like they do with everything, and they were trying to protect babies from it/please God or some combination.

Occum's razor, simplest answer is probably most accurate.

Not allowing her to see your dick after it goes down. How fucking small is it?

Good idea. I suppose I should quit smoking then.
Quitting smoking is easy though. I do it all the time.

Seriously though, that seems like a good idea. No need to be a chad thundercock but I suppose every dude wants to be good at secks.
Luckily though I love eating my gf out so that helps.

Women are weird though, they seem to have to have everything just right in order for it to be worth doing. Fussy bastards considering all they really have to do is spread their legs.

this

Yeah, she's a feminist. But I have to give her credit for being scientifically honest and supporting an idea that is obviously controversial to most women worshipping types. Even if she does it under the guise of "helping women better understand themselves" or whatever.

Have you tried roughing her up a bit first? Choking, slaps to her face, calling her a whore/dirty bitch, etc

Very likely. Still doesn't explain the ritual and the sucking of the baby's dick. No health benefit to that.

To be honest, no. She never seemed to give the impression that she's into that kind of shit. In fact, she has said on multiple occasions that she'd hate it.

But now that I'm a bit older, I am growing to learn that when a woman says something, you should always assume she means the opposite.

yeah, it's weird how often these hardcore religious people end up being pedos.

as for why the practice hasn't ended yet in america, hospitals want to make money off it. same way some big name mechanics will try to sell you extra work you don't need when you bring your car into their shop. some people say they even sell the foreskin tissue. really pisses me off to think about.

anyone who this was done to should look up foreskin restoration techniques and get started. it's a process that takes years of dedication but I've read that the result is worth it. just do yourself a favor and skip all of the "why should I restore" pages. that shit is a bit exaggerated and reading it when you're already convinced is self-torture.

Fair enough user, even those that don't share our philosophy can do hard work at times and produce results to add to the discussion, so likewise i give credit where it is due.

You sound like a dick sucking faggot my dude