Vietnam

How does a country lose a war to rice farmers when you have Air Superiority?

Are Americans this bad at war?

>inb4 overused emu war meme

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It was a draw.

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They were all heart.

Inb4
>we didn't lose
>mah hippies
It's because of the idea of nationalism. Iwould be like invading the U.S. In the post TV era. No one is going to surrender. Also blah blah proxiy war with China, no excuse, finding a way to get enemy allies to fuck off is a part of war,

It was your war too you historically illiterate too felatio teacher.

The Vietnamese fought for their freedom, Americans fought for oppression.

We didn't really lose I suppose. Guerilla warfare is pretty damn hard to fight and it gets difficult when the public doesn't support it. We should have never fought it that war. Also: Straya fought in it too so they also "lost".

>shoot them
>stab them
>blow them up
>burn them alive
>destroy the country
>use such powerful chemical weapons baby's are STILL born all mutilated and fucked up
>'lost'

Whatever you say Tang Pai

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watch this

imagine playing EU4 with low army morale and trying to fight a foe with like 5k army and you have 30k+

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Jews.

we converted an asiatic people into mole people through continuous air bombardment. The vietnamese were crafty devils just like the Afghanis. Goes to show that guerilla warfare always wins.

>win every battle
>have to pull out because low public support
>your pathetic ally gets overrun

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Read reports of Australian troops

VC were scared of us but openly mocked the US

Totally Canada's fault.

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bingo

And this isn't some overused meme?

Risking your life in some third world shithole, only to come home and get spit at by some hippie cunts doesn't help.

>G--u-uise really guise guise, they totally guise guise guise, listen guise they totally feared us
I doubt rice farmers even knew the difference

Based Sweden:
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One of the few non-socialist countries that didn't drink the kool-aid when China-USA evil alliance isolated Vietnam in the UN over Khmer Rouge.

SINK
THE
CHINKS

SHANK
THE
YANKS

tunnels

Ayo, we got your women boyee. Now prep the bird.

Apocalypse Now basically sums it by saying "America didn't want to win, they just wanted to play war that day"

Reminder that Kurtz did nothing wrong other than kill Chef.

Uh... you obviously fell for the liberal meme.

The US didn't lose in Vietnam. There is a McDonald's in Ho Chi Min Square and Vietnam is a capitalist country and it's part of the US sphere of influence in South Asia. We actually have military bases in Vietnam and train their army.

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This is such bullshit
Btw that's the whole winning war statagy England uses
>lose every battle except th last one
Battles mean shit all. What matters is taking and keeping territory and either killing or converting the locals. And even all that means shit all in the end.
What matters is the final outcome, not the k/d ratio not the battles "won"
If you ""lose"" every battle except the last one you still won.
In fact the point is never to win a battle, just make it expensive for the enemy to advance. People forget it was a 30 year war. Fuck you, the 'first indoctrination war between 1945 to 1954 is the same war as the second 'indochina' war from 55 to 1975
For all proposes it was a 30 year war for the west.
We had to run a supply chain around the globe all the had to do was retreat and shot a few heads. We could bomb a road and 12 hours later it would be rebuilt. Their strategy was much better.

>How does a country lose a war

Liberals. The answer is always liberals

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ETERNAL AND ALWAYS KEKED SWEDEN FOREVER

I'd like to set aside or differences and sink the chinks with you goys.

C U C K E D* Mods replace C u c k with cuck

and of course everyone is ignoring this

>be Vietman
>be french colony
>conquered by japs
>fight japs
>french come again
>fight frogs, win
>amerifats come
>support collaborating catholic south

Who is dumb enough to invade country in the middle of passionary national Renaissance?

This is somewhat true, but more complicated.

Basically liberals claim they are responsible for shit that they had no influence on at all. They then create these false narratives pushed by the media and academia.

By the time the last US troops left Nam there were basically no protests in the US at all. There were secret talks with the Chinese and North Viets over what would happen to the country.

I'm not disputing it was a dumb war, but this false lib narrative happens all the time. Same thing happened with Gandhi in India. The British didn't fucking leave because of this faggot Gandhi, they left because they went bankrupt and wiped out their own army fighting the Germans in WW2 and it became cheaper for them to just give up the colony and do trade deals directly with Indian plantations/sweatshops.

These false lib narratives are everywhere. Similar shit with the desegregation and feminism narratives.

I'm getting so tired of having to explain the Vietnam war to clueless non-Americans. I swear, if we weren't at the top of the world, nobody would give a shit about that war. If somebody like Russia or China replaced us as global hegemon, you'd all make non-stop retarded threads asking why Russia lost in Afghanistan, or why China lost in Cambodia.

But no, every single time, we explain it to you over and over again, and you idiots still heehaw and chuckle at how rice farmers singlehandedly destroyed the entire US military. Well fuck it, I'm getting goddamn tired of explaining it anyways. It's practically a meme and nobody gives a good fuck about the real history behind it anymore. So whatever.

Yes, we lost. Yes, we're so bad at war. Please, try to invade us or attack us, because we're so bad at fighting back.

In Vietnam, we were fighting for the freedom of another nations people, and this never works (same reason America can't beat a bunch of inbred middle eastern sand niggers even after 15 years)

in the American revolution we were fighting for our own freedom, which is how we were able to beat the (at the time) most powerful nation in the world.

very good point made here

No, the spitting was done by right-wingers. Read 'The Spitting Image'.

If you really care about this topic just go watch Shadowring.

There's a documentary series called taking fire about the US army in Afghanistan, It's exactly the same shit they did in Vietnam, their doctrine is garbage. They get shot at by a couple of ragheads from a mountain top and they just take it, they have grunts getting shot in their bunks from cavemen on hilltops and all they do is either call in a 75 thousand dollar airstrike or fire a 35 thousand dollar tow missile ate them. The Ragheads are long gone of course.
The yanks have no idea, they think it's normal to be shot at or something.

Guerilla warfare.
Yanks couldn't see their enemy as everyone who lived there look the same. Enemy combatants hid amount civilians.

Here you go OP, I even found the time mark for you.
youtu.be/Y_6XbOPqoTU?t=1h37m22s

>How does a country lose a war to rice farmers
>lose a war

We didn't dumbfuck. Read your history. South Vietnam lost the war. We already made a peace agreement and pulled out.

(((PragerU)))

>a few decades after the end of the war
>vietnamese line up to work as slaves for $0.20/hr to manufacture low cost underwear and socks for Americans

check the scoreboard before you declare a winner

>How does a country lose a war to rice farmers when you have Air Superiority?

politicians playing armchair general.

>australians unironically belive this

All narratives are false narratives. Everyone claims all the things that make them look good.

>inb4 emu war

kek

Liberals and draftdodgers betrayed their countrymen

>bombing is evil think of the children!
>you have to use ground troops and let them die from shit covered traps, snipers and malaria!

In the end Hungary got a lot of qt vietnamese refugees so I dont mind

The fact that people ignore this is due to manipulation by leftist propaganda in (((journalism))) through the decades.

Just look at how dishonest people are over politics now, there's no reason to believe they wouldn't push a lying agenda back then, especially when there was no Internet for people to have a voice when calling out the bullshit.

>muh freedoms

>We have this thread every week
>implying that the U.S. played to win in the Vietnam War
It was literally just a feed mill for the military-industrial complex to gorge themselves on, that and a mechanism to destabilize the political climate of the united states, so that the baby boomer generation could be turned against their parents.
Bait thread, I rate 2/5, got me to reply.

The war wasn't lost, it was abandoned. You can't kill all insurgency in a country with sheer force (without killing everyone in the country). The war wasn't worth it in the first place and was started on a false premise and this became more obvious to the average person,causing political support for the war to be a liability for politicians. The US absolutely decimated all resistance, in conventional warfare. The problem became that US forces couldn't root out all of the opposition because it's not possible. By your logic it would be impossible to win a war where you invade someone at home. That's why Iraq, Vietnam, and similar wars weren't losses.

> inb4 the US lost the War of 1812
This one always seems to pop up too. The War of 1812 was a tie as the Treaty of Ghent returned everything to how it was before the war. That said, it was almost a victory for the US as it increased the US' image as a country as the US went up against the baddest country in the world and tied (Spanish War helped too as the US absolutely raped Spain). That said, by your logic the War of 1812 would be a victory as the US managed to repel the British.

Literally landmines.
Don't forget that Australia fought in Vietnam too.

USA did not lose militarily. They kicked the shit out of those rice farmers.
If your own country starts calling you a monster and you have to start worrying about not killing civilians more than you can think of killing enemies you can't win.

>Are Americans this bad at war?
Yes.

Fighting a communist uprising is about winning the people over, away from the ideology.
Air superiority can't do that, unless you plan to genocide every single trace of the opposing side with napalm.