why do you "white" americans think we care about race? we dont want any more fuckers coming in to live here, we dont care what race you call yourselves. if you arent aussie FUCK OFF
Christian Foster
Not even shitting you mate, as much as I want new polacks, the engineering industry here on this poor little island is terrible. Even my father with lots of experience and a PhD in mech can't find a job. You'll have better job opportunity in U.S, and you have trump anyway. Nevertheless if your spoiled American ass HAS to move, try Canada or New Zealand.
Christopher Bailey
FUCK OFF WITH THE VISA SHIT YOU ARE TAKING AUSTRALIAN JOBS YOU CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNT
Nathan Carter
if you share the same values as us then i dont see why not
Levi Williams
kill yourself pajeet
Zachary Turner
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Nicholas Bell
Well hopefully they let you through the immigration system, youre probably not diverse enough for our mad bureaucrats. But once you get through that minefield you'd be an honorary Aussie in no time m80.
Luke Gomez
how about cos he is taking a job from an aussie? oh youre prob some brown cunt they shipped in from over seas right?
Daniel Thompson
Why would anyone want to move to australia
>no guns >too much sun >ugly rude people
Sounds like so much fun!
Easton Lewis
haven't given it much thought if I'm being honest.
Julian Mitchell
Really? I graduated last year and got a bunch of offers. My mum has an engineering degree and earns a bit over 300k a year, and gets random offers every few years from other companies.
Brandon Green
Mericunts aren't allowed.
Dominic Kelly
exactly, listen to the leaf
we haaaaaaate it.
Michael Allen
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Easton Richardson
>Why would anyone want to move to australia Well, it's further away from Canadians for a start.
Robert Hernandez
Nope you're not coming in I'm afraid, we only take brown people and rich asians.
Colton Evans
Of course not. There is a spider in Australia that is so venomous that it can kill your entire family just by texting you.
Liam Phillips
What sort of engineer?
Why does all of pol want to come here?
No we don't need more stem fags undercutting wages. Fuck off.
John Cox
Kill yourself
Justin Campbell
Depends on the engineering it seems. Almost every engineering degree requires postgraduate studies now to stay competitive (besides Software ""engineering"")
Charles Bell
>Has anyone unironically considered immigrating to Australia? Nah, I love it here too much. Always wanted to visit that place though, awesome scenery.
Kayden Wright
No, because they've said they're full.
Besides I hear their internet's not that great and the Aussie dollar doesn't really stretch like ours does.
Brayden Johnson
This place is a shithole. America is a shithole. Europe is a shithole. You will not find want you want from relocation, especially here.
Ryan Mitchell
BS Computer Science -- so software "engineering"
Currently in law school because I don't want to be autistic my entire life and I fell for the ip attorney meme.
Carter Gutierrez
You're too white sorry.
We only take nogs and chinese apparently.
Ryder Cox
THATS EVEN FUCKING WORSE
AUSSIES CANT GET SOFTWARE JOBS BECAUSE OF CUNTS LIKE YOU WHO THINK WE'RE SOME HAVEN FOR IMMIGRANTS
AUSTRALIA FIRST >AUSTRALIA FIRST AUSTRALIA FIRST >AUSTRALIA FIRST AUSTRALIA FIRST >AUSTRALIA FIRST AUSTRALIA FIRST >AUSTRALIA FIRST AUSTRALIA FIRST >AUSTRALIA FIRST
Kayden Sullivan
Why would you want to move to Australia?
Bentley Foster
I'll be honest with you maye, nowadays engineering is like an arts degree here. Every cunt with decent results in high school seems to go straight into it in uni and the degree seems to be almost worthless.
Move to a nice part of America if you live in a shit part of America tbqhfamily. Your country is a Jew-controlled multicultural shithole but which "European" country isn't nowadays. At least you cunts have the fire to rebel against it just a little bit.
Cooper Thomas
I try live in Gold Coast as waiter at hotel, they all tell me fuck off we full when I walk home at night
Ethan James
i spent a few months there. it's mostly really nice but extremely overvalued. ill take our mexicans over whatever the fuck their obnoxious brown people are
William Hill
delete this
Ethan Barnes
where are the living steve irwins from?
Nicholas Collins
I'd take abbos over the pavement apes here desu
Nolan Johnson
Just letting you know m8 that you will find it hard for employment unless you have previous experience from a tier 1 company.
I know plenty of internationals who come here and go to our top schools with postgraduate engineering related degrees only to have to pack their bags after 2 years of waiting tables due to being unable to find jobs and their 2 year post graduate visa running out.
Also be prepared for engineering to no longer be a field for visa's. We have an over supply of engineering graduates which has been this way for about 5 years, the gobment have only noticed recently.
Doctors are also on the list to remove for vias believe it or not.
Mason Sullivan
I may be too deep in Patrick J. Buchanan literature, but it genuinely seems that Trump is the Julius Caeser of the United States, and the cultural marxism and statist bullshit is going to come back full force as soon as his term is over.
Australia is extremely isolated geographically and demographically sound.
William Anderson
>try Canada
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Ethan White
Especially not if you're a white *male* engineer, as it stands more than a quarter of all local engineering graduates in Australia don't find employment and most engineering firms are dropping their intern programs.
But even with all the work drying up they're still on the Governments fucking 'emergency skills shortage' list, just so fuckwit firms can hire cut rate Indians for a third the prices. I did a Arts Degree and I make more than the three 3 unemployed engineers I live with one of whom is moving to Teach English in Thailand, because there's no fucking jobs. Fuck they're ruining this country, Fuck fuck fuck.
Connor Anderson
So you're not really an engineer unless you can create operating systems or really deep level computer stuff.
I hate that fucking term software engineer. You're a programmer.
Thomas Evans
>300k >bit over 300k a year What position in what company?
I'm a contracts administrator for Ceerose and all of our engineers get paid dogshit compared to the construction management team and estimators.
I am leaning towards bullshit because directors at the highest level don't even pull 300k very often though please prove me wrong. I would sincerely like to know what position shes in.
Is she a quality assurance engineer on a contract or something going on $150 an hour?
Dominic Barnes
Once again, not what I've seen in Sydney at least.
Luis Wilson
That seems uncanny, but from what I know the industry is shit in the East Coast
Cooper Harris
Is the oversupply in engineers because of indians or a lack of job creators in Australia, or both?
>Doctors are also on the list to remove for vias believe it or not.
This is surprising. Quick google search shows it's because of disgruntled UK doctors? What makes the Australian system so much better?
Ryder Butler
False. Most don't at all.
Most get it when moving into very senior management roles related to engineering.
Dylan Rivera
You should heed the advice of the other aussie posters in this thread, they're full and jobs will be especially hard to find over there when you're a foreigner. What state do you live in man? Why not stock up on guns, ammo, and food supplies as well if you're so concerned about SHTF?
Could just be Melbourne, you'd need to be on an engineer salary to live in Sydney. :P
Connor Diaz
>:P Neck yourself
Levi Foster
>all the work drying up they're still on the Governments fucking 'emergency skills shortage' list, just so fuckwit firms can hire cut rate Indians for a third the prices.
Sounds exactly like H-1B visas in the Bay Area right now. Luckily Trump is going to solve it, allegedly.
Nathan Ward
a general manager for the oceanic/sea/some sort of distinct region section of a global corp. Over years of promotions there was obviously less and less "engineering" related to her degree there though.
You wouldn't want her job anyway, the hours are not worth it.
Alexander Sanders
fuck those poisonous spiders though
also these guys
great brains though
Asher Cruz
The oversupply is due to letting boat loads of skilled forgins take our entry engineering jobs when we had loads of our own graduates already here to fill them.
The doctors is due to foreign doctor's coming and only working in our cities which has caused our graduates to have limited position to fill.
They have taken our graduate doctors jobs. This is actually a serious issue with GP's less so with specialists.
The system was supposed to be the forign doctors working in the outback while ours work in the cities but what has happened is they all have ended up in the cities with our less skilled graduates missing out.
Asher Miller
Interesting.
>You wouldn't want her job anyway, the hours are not worth it.
I know that feel and I'm only 26. I'm working roughly 60-65 hours a week and it's killing me. Only downside to the construction industry is the long hours.
You're better off in some nice centrist/right-wing state in US. Australia has its own share of problem. And don't forget that their culture is absolute rubbish, and their niggers are less educated than somali refugees.
Joshua Anderson
this
we only like them for their military being allies and all.
Bentley Davis
Oh yeah and on top of this, the engineer jobs are scarce here. I used to know lots of engineers when they were in uni and most of them had to move far away to find decent jobs. One had to move to china.
But yeah we don't take kindly to ANY foreigners, it's not like American nationalism where if you're any kind of white you'll be fine, we don't like non Australians period, especially the women, Australian women like Australian men for the most part.
Luke Cox
those hours are not legal here and you should only do 8 shifts.
Jonathan Ramirez
That'll be the next thread then: which state is worth moving to.
California, where I am right now, is getting a little too reconquista for my liking.
Jacob Rivera
Fuck off eh
Were full
Nathan Anderson
> This.
Brayden Scott
I am going to cum down under on all you women straya, pick fruit and get injured on purpose to take advantage of your generous welfare state. All the while wearing an American flag shirt every fucking day.
Christian Russell
Better to immigrate to Middle-Earth, rather than to Kangarooland.
Camden Clark
>shift work Do you really think company higher ups don't work ridiculous hours? They aren't 'forced to' per se, they just need to get through a lot of work.
Brayden Gonzalez
>those hours are not legal here
I am not entirely sure but I believe it is when you are a full time employee on a set salary.
It is also an industry standard for blue collar construction jobs. I have worked for 2 smaller companies and now a tier 2 company and each one I was expected to work 7am-7pm weekdays with a half day on Saturday every week or two.
Hudson Peterson
And did anyone mention how jewd we are? Apparently usury in Australia is one of the worst in the world. I don't think I can even go an hour watching TV without some ad playing offering a loan or rental furniture or appliances or something. (Easy to avoid but it results in a lot of poverty that you have to deal with if you're in the city)
Don't even get me started on bank fees on TOP of everything being expensive as fuck. I don't smoke anymore but cigarettes are like triple the price here than they are in America and constantly going up.
I love and hate this bloody country.
Jack Davis
>Middle-Earth New Zealand? Isn't NZ asian now.
Alexander Adams
>want to disagree, especially because it's a dumb finnish cunt who's probably never left his own country >don't want to encourage people to come here under any circumstances ever
conflicted
Owen Carter
White collar* my apologies.
Blue collar construction employees at least get overtime.
Lucas Myers
Good luck. Welfare is like 1/3rd of minimum wage, unless you're a Chinese immigrant.
Nicholas Hughes
you better be making a fortune because jesus christ that's life consuming shit
Henry Evans
maybe they need to work faster.
Justin Martinez
Seems like Australia is enjoying the benefits of globalization. There's only 20million of you fuckers, so once you opened the borders you instantly disproportionately got flooded with human capital you didn't need and now need to compete with.
Caleb Hill
australia is hot canada
Aiden Evans
this
I hope they're saving their money and investing it accordingly so they can get out of that situation.
Kayden Clark
On 85k AUD at 26 going up anywhere between 5k-10k per year depending on performance.
Luis Stewart
>There's only 20million of you fuckers, so once you opened the borders you instantly disproportionately got flooded with human capital you didn't need and now need to compete with. it's true, and if you're not in a major city it is a never ending misery of poverty and unemployment
you had a similar working visa problem but over here its worse
Andrew Taylor
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Brayden Stewart
Around my way it's only the shitskin doctors that bulk bill, all the old white cunts want 50 bucks just for a quick consultation. Fuck em. I want more shitskin doctors.
So called Australian doctors would be mostly Australian born gooks anyway. So who cares if they have to bugger off to the bush. They should be earning their place here anyway by doing it tough like our forefathers did.
Charles Collins
I have purchased 1 apartments through my company due to the 4% employee discount. Not bad deal.
Plus due to long hours you don't have time to spend the money, so it's all in your pocket.
Zachary Walker
I've been to other places. Have you left your own state?
Xavier Garcia
Fuck off mate, we are full to the brim.
Adam Rivera
The only people who deserve any sort of protectionism are those that vote Pauline or any other anti immigration party.
Angel Young
Are you renting that apartment out for passive income or living there yourself?
Grayson Young
California is way too cucked for my liking, move to a red state or something man. Florida and Texas have high populations with a decent conservative population, you should be able to find engineering jobs within those areas though I'm no engineer so take that with a grain of salt. Arizona, especially the northern part is actually quite nice though transplants from the liberal states are infesting that place from what I've heard. Montana is quite nice as well but only if you're retiring there. Maine is quite interesting, however the gun laws are quite decent and the scenery is quite beautiful. Honestly, moving to Australia seems like a huge waste of time and money for an American. They don't even like Americans or any foreigner for that matter. You'd be better off moving out of that wretched state to a better state.
Jeremiah Clark
>I've been to other places proofs?
Tyler Perry
I'm seriously considering emigrating from Australia.
Unfortunately, I was educated by an Australian university.
Jackson James
Ideally would be higher with those hours, but for your age that's pretty solid
Jaxson Gonzalez
Don't. I got out of there while I still could. It will be the southern Sweden in a decade
Logan Torres
That's shit money for the hours senpai. I do 63k doing literally fuck all for 38 a week.