Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of communism, the next stage of human development.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Actually, interesting fact. The Soviets were state capitalist for all but one area of the economy, and that was the agriculture. In the agriculture they actually did go through with an extensive collectivization program, while everything else not collectivize. That's why they were able to keep tank production and the space race going just fine, while their people starved and food production was minimal.
Josiah Sanchez
When porky tells me he's a job creator
Jacob Reyes
Quit trying to force this meme.
Josiah Ramirez
It's not a meme, just a fact.
Jaxon Fisher
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Luis Rivera
Remember when commies killed millions of people ? Yeah great times.
Jace Hall
I'm surprised it wasn't the spaniard faggot that started this thread, he probably starved himself to death since he refused to partake in capitalism Also sage
Brody Baker
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Justin Sullivan
socialism is when the government owns everything and distributes to the people. stop lying
you commie retards are so fucking pathetic. you're just copies. you copy everything everyone else does and think you can do it better. you're not the working class, you don't create content. you're just parasites. communism aka socialism is jewish bullshit and therefore is a permanently blue pilled ideology. if your revolution did happen you would be killed off. those dumb white southerners who vote against their own economic interests are the proletariat. you are the bourgeoisie
Jonathan Brooks
>starves peasant farmers of a neigboring nation
Anthony Peterson
>socialism is when the government does stuff
Hudson Martinez
>but...but..Stalin killed Nazis Lmao you faggot, if he wanted to fight genocidal maniacs he shouldve just swallowed his gun
Zachary Hughes
saging you godless commies. Sup Forums is and always was a natsoc board.
Jonathan Gomez
Keep telling yourself that.
Landon Baker
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
Dylan Reed
I forgot you tards get triggered by factual historical events. My bad, did I hurt your feefees ?
David Carter
>marxism
Isaiah Evans
Yeah, the part where the nazis lost. I get really triggered by that.
Christian Watson
someone post the death count statistics where soviets died at a much higher rate than any other nation lol
Brayden Fisher
>he thinks the Soviets won
Alexander Brown
got it
>USSR lost more troops than Germany as both an absolute number and a proportion of its population that communism-fortified military right?
inb4 "not real communism" deflection
Xavier Nguyen
Nice deflecting, wanna talk about Pol Pot ? Mao ? Or North Korea ? Or we could always go back to my big boy Stalin. If you prefer you can close your eyes and plug your ears and just sing the USSR Anime Intro and pretend you arent worshipping genocidal dictators that were only out for their selfish egos
Ryan Hernandez
>inflating the number with slaughtered civilians In any case, the Soviet system took them from a feudal system to almost single-handedly defeating the Nazis. It's not Stalin's fault he used the material advantages he inherited.
>Pol Pot Got funded by the CIA and invaded by Vietnam. Actually not communist at all.
>Mao Maybe the one real example of mass starvation. Terrible administration.
>North Korea Sup Forumsyps dream of an authoritarian ethnostate that will admit it's not communist at all. Exists solely because China doesn't want America at its border.
Austin Peterson
>Maybe the one real example of mass starvation That and the Soviet Union.
Owen Gray
Nope. Collectivization ended the famines.
Noah Miller
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Carter Jones
>communism turns you into a trap Boy why are you insulting yourself, thats our job
Luke Jones
>implying slipping into a shitty communist echo chamber transformed you into a political mastermind
David Rogers
>Collectivization ended the famines Collectivization caused the famines.
Jeremiah Butler
>>>>((((((((((communism))))))))))
Pic related, leaked pic of op
Ryan Diaz
Obviously 2 wrongs makes a right in Commie Disney Land
Jaxson Hall
>NEVER >ENDING >CYCLE
Josiah Foster
THE REAL SYSTEM
Juan Young
81:6.31 (910.4) 11. Place-finding devices. The next age of social development will be embodied in a better and more effective co-operation and co-ordination of ever-increasing and expanding specialization. And as labor more and more diversifies, some technique for directing individuals to suitable employment must be devised. Machinery is not the only cause for unemployment among the civilized peoples of Urantia. Economic complexity and the steady increase of industrial and professional specialism add to the problems of labor placement.
81:6.32 (910.5) It is not enough to train men for work; in a complex society there must also be provided efficient methods of place finding. Before training citizens in the highly specialized techniques of earning a living, they should be trained in one or more methods of commonplace labor, trades or callings which could be utilized when they were transiently unemployed in their specialized work. No civilization can survive the long-time harboring of large classes of unemployed. In time, even the best of citizens will become distorted and demoralized by accepting support from the public treasury. Even private charity becomes pernicious when long extended to able-bodied citizens.
81:6.33 (910.6) Such a highly specialized society will not take kindly to the ancient communal and feudal practices of olden peoples. True, many common services can be acceptably and profitably socialized, but highly trained and ultraspecialized human beings can best be managed by some technique of intelligent co-operation. Modernized co-ordination and fraternal regulation will be productive of longer-lived co-operation than will the older and more primitive methods of communism or dictatorial regulative institutions based on force
Landon Turner
>S-Stalin and t-the ussr w-weren't r-real communis-sts
Austin Green
>communists in the 21st century why bother?
Thomas Ramirez
nigga wat
Brody Kelly
Kill yourself comrade
Owen Nguyen
>c-c-current year
Bentley Howard
>has no idea failure of Russian agriculture sparked communist revolution
Jacob Powell
yes sir
Asher Davis
Thank god Stalin fixed all that, no one lived in misery or fear under his regime, right ? ri..right user ?
Ian Powell
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Adam Barnes
>doesn't know that the Soviets kickstarted their own even worse famine 11 years after the Russian famine
Dominic Gomez
Working class is in control here and it's retarded.
Tyler Sullivan
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Zachary Taylor
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Camden Watson
No, it's not.
Nolan Mitchell
>shows 18 failed socialist societies What did he mean by this?
Gabriel Rodriguez
No it was a predatory ideology perpetuated by lunatics. It's got one thing to offer and one thing only: that stupid people will receive everything they ever wanted. What you get in reality is starvation.
Gabriel Walker
There's already a communist thread here Is there a /leftypol/ raid going on?
Holodomr was a deliberate starving of the countries agriculture because the farmers didn't want people stealing all the crops before harvest.
That's communism, retarded through and through.
Michael Kelly
There was no famine is was a deliberate denial of water, food, and supplies.
Lincoln Cox
you... you guys ARE roleplaying right?
I mean, you do know communism is an inherently flawed system, do you not?
Juan Taylor
*Ahem*
Jack Cox
You do realize that the only way communism works is if you kill off 10% of the population? Im all for the struggle of workers and making sure capitalists respect worker rights and our shit, I'm not about indiscriminately killing people for the sake of killing because when does it end?
Luke Nguyen
It was both. It was a man made famine aided by the ineptitude caused by collectivization, and it was also a deliberate attempt at genocide.
Aaron Ortiz
Everything on this board is satire™
2 communists beat his highscore, your point ?
Luis White
Yes, it is. An unskilled laborer earns more than a doctor. Healthcare is universal. Collective bargaining for everything.
It's a shithole with 25% youth unemployment and terrible low trust social structure. True colecrivism isn't compatible with the working class and it is that simple.
Connor Gray
Communists aren't human thus it does not violate the NAP to kill them.
Jace Martinez
Don't worry this always happens when changing views, first you triumph over someone elses argument to the point where you think that he's an absurd lunatic for believing what he believes, then finally it hits you, why this person believes it and you understand him and grow to accept him even if you don't eventually change your opinion don't worry accepting that other people can have different ideas that are completely valid for them happens to all adults
Christian Phillips
Collectivism*
Thomas Williams
If communism and nazism is so great, why did America win World War 1, World War 2, and the Cold War?
Grayson Watson
>Being this delusional No wonder burgers wanna keep you out
Noah Price
No, I just thought people grow out of this phase when they apply for reach 21 years of age and apply for a job.
Parker Parker
I'm not a commie either I also grew out of this face >leaf opinion discarded
Jack Walker
this is b8 the soviets won ww2 on both fronts
Juan Butler
>sometimes you have to realize where your political opponent is coming from and their personal mindset on the issue >hehe teh leaf BTFO lel
Isaiah Campbell
Hitler's loss was the loss of every White man on the face of the earth
Parker Parker
t. leaf in burger proxy Day of the rake when?
Nathaniel Clark
dont worry i dont need a proxy to protect my feefees lol
