Hello!

Hello!

I am a student from Sweden that is really curious about your views and I would really enjoy if you can give me your perspective on a few questions on a sensitive Swedish topic.

[Backstory]

I was given an assignment in my social studies class on the topic of population and it's effect.
Since I only had a left leaning narrative in my school, I thought it would be pretty 'sane' to hear the other sides'.
My school is a very liberal school with the whole package (i mean transgender bathrooms, banned wording and such) and when I was given this assignment to prepare myself for a seminar with my class I thought it would be healthy with some other sides perspective on this.

The assignment is a series of questions that will be asked in the seminar.

The following is the questions that will be asked.

1. Shall the state involve themselves in the 'nuclear family' and how many children they should be able to have?

(a backstory to this question)
2. Europe is set to be transformed-into a "retirement home" this is because of an increasing number of older people, who isn't economically active. To counter this development should the European countries open their borders and allow young people to immigrate from states outside Europe? From what areas can you assume that those who move to Europe comes from? What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?

3. Examine how HIV/AIDS is spreading in the world. Where it spreads rapidly and where the increase has come to a halt? Why is sub-Saharan Africa hard hit by HIV / Aids? How does society of many cases of HIV/Aids? Is there a risk of the epidemic takes off in Sweden?

I would love to discuss these questions with this community, while both learning your view, and helping spread different perspective to my fellow classmates.

Faggot

Race realism and evolutionary psychology are 2 of the most important redpills to take. A lot of my other views stem from there.

Häng dig

i really hate Sweden and Swedish people

I will answer #3.

It's not just Africa that has problems with AIDS. The higher the % black population in the US, the higher the rate of AIDS. There are two reasons for this.

The first is pic related - black people are more sexually active because, having evolved in a land of abundance without winters, they developed a "quantity over quality" approach to offspring.

The second is that, also due to these evolutionary reasons, black people did not have to plan ahead, cooperate or reason. There is tonnes of research showing that IQ and conscientiousness (in which black people are lower) predict health behaviours because of disease education and prevention, going to the doctor, etc. Basically, because they're less intelligent and less likely to plan ahead, a black person will be less likely, for example, to plan ahead.

Are you really going to present this to your class?

And, yes, the more black """refugees""" pour into Sweden, the higher the AIDS rate will become. Fortunately it will be mostly confined to them.

Africans aren't tested for aids they die and we say that person had aids try and prove me wrong achmed

*to use a condom, I meant

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why wouldn't I? I hope you aren't spreading missinformation here.

And wrong paper, see pic related instead

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Not sure if b8

>1. The state should ensure its citizens are having children above the replacement rare of 2:1

>2.No, never. Immigration should be from European countries, specifically from Western and Northern Europe.

I do not give a singular fuck about the immigrant problems and neither should you, Sven.

>3. Africa is hit hard by aids because the citizens of Sub-saharan Africa DO NOT have the mental faculties to utilize safe sex practices.

If you take in immigrants from the 3rd world, you get 3rd diseases and deserve it.

All immigrants should ve deported as they are a net drain on your country.

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Can't wait for all the sissy porn to come out of Sweden. White boys are the best

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>1. Shall the state involve themselves in the 'nuclear family' and how many children they should be able to have?

Would be pretty funny.

>(a backstory to this question)
>2. Europe is set to be transformed-into a "retirement home" this is because of an increasing number of older people, who isn't economically active. To counter this development should the European countries open their borders and allow young people to immigrate from states outside Europe? From what areas can you assume that those who move to Europe comes from? What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?

Yes, open borders. Somebody has to become the new lower class after all.

>3. Examine how HIV/AIDS is spreading in the world. Where it spreads rapidly and where the increase has come to a halt? Why is sub-Saharan Africa hard hit by HIV / Aids? How does society of many cases of HIV/Aids? Is there a risk of the epidemic takes off in Sweden?


Again, a topic that seems very funny.

but if sweden has a low aids rate because of the sexual preventation products will it not affect the immigrants aswell in the form of lowering the rates?

Sweden? What is that? You mean Rapeden?

Guard your butt and penis if your school has transgender bathrooms, your teacher may chop your penis off while a rapefugee storm inside you with his BBC.

Fucking accurate!

Kill yourself you worthless obese nigger

All Swedes welcomes Ramadan as a new Swedish tradition that brings communities together.

keep going

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Be more specific, fellow Sven.

>1. Shall the state involve themselves in the 'nuclear family' and how many children they should be able to have?
They should. In the West, birthrates are currently declining because the liberal left are denouncing traditional values, encouraging divorces, homosexuality, and recreational sex. Personally, I think either 2 and 3 kids per couple would be sustainable.

>2. Europe is set to be transformed-into a "retirement home" this is because of an increasing number of older people, who isn't economically active. To counter this development should the European countries open their borders and allow young people to immigrate from states outside Europe?
There are two ways the issue of an aging population can be solved. Either A, The Governments put a heavy emphasis on having kids, or B, we take steps to automate the economy with robots filling in the gaps of a shrinking workforce. We already import immigrants from outside Europe in the millions, and since we have it has led to rises in crime, terrorism, ethnic, cultural and religious conflict, especially involving specific groups like Muslims or Somalians.

>From what areas can you assume that those who move to Europe comes from?
Usually the most immigrants come from wherever that country colonised in the past. For Example, immigrants to the UK come from Pakistan and Nigeria. Immigrants to France come from Algeria, etc. Otherwise, they generally come from Muslim countries most of the time.

>What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?
Immigrants segragate themselves by living in neighbourhoods with people of the same group. This means they take no steps to intergrate into the culture of the host country. They are less successful and less committed to their fellow "countrymen". Their kids and grandkids grow up to love their parents' home country while resenting "their own". And they sometimes join gangs and commit terrorist attacks as a result.

Jävla rasist.

what is the funny part about the question, i might be able to scrap something and use it against the "grain"

here's the thing about immigrant segragate themselves.

they don't.

the state give them places and since they are plenty of immigrants coming they all get placed at the same spot.

>what is the funny part about the question

Just makes this funnier.

This. Besides some races are just more beautiful. Not mine though

You're a student. You have it much easier accesing science networks. Aren't you able to search papers for yourself?

AS for the child amount question you should have incentives given for a third child since we usually Get only two But Nothing for the fourth or fifth since muslims abuse this and have larger families

In norway they all go to Oslo to feel more at home after a while

Ur prbbly pakistani, kill youself without killing others

>1. Shall the state involve themselves in the 'nuclear family' and how many children they should be able to have?
I'm gay
>2. To counter this development should the European countries open their borders and allow young people to immigrate from states outside Europe?
Turn gay
>From what areas can you assume that those who move to Europe comes from?
Gay land
>What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?
Turning gay
>3. Why is sub-Saharan Africa hard hit by HIV / Aids? How does society of many cases of HIV/Aids?
Being gay
>Is there a risk of the epidemic takes off in Sweden?
If you turn gay

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im not looking for science work here, im just asking for opinions since the school debate will be more about opinions than scientific evidence.

hoppas du får gonorre din jävla 0a

Do you like that, you little cucks?

1. I don’t understand the question. Sweden needs to raise its birth rates in order to sustain its population. It will be beneficial for the Swedish society to bring up more children in order to sustain the welfare state in the future. People should not only be allowed to have as many children they would like (it is their human right), resourceful families should be encouraged to bring up more children than today.

2.1. Ideally yes, but in statistics show that non-western immigration pose an even larger cost on society than old people.

2.2 The migrant will be people that have less prosperous lives where they are, and live in an area with less social security than Sweden. They migrate to Sweden to get a better life. (People that are well off where they are will not give up their life and move to a different country to start all over).

2.3 The main problem with this type of migration is that it attracts the least resourceful people. Some manage to be productive citizens given the opportunities that Sweden can provide, but overall they impose a net cost to the Swedish society, this invalidates the argument that Sweden allow migration for economic reasons (however there can be other reasons to allow migration than economic reasons, e.g moral responsibility, European integration etc.).

3. HIV/AIDS is present in poor countries with lack of infrastructure, medical services, clean drinking water etc. There is no risk of an epidemic in Sweden.

noted

>It will be beneficial for the Swedish society to bring up more children in order to sustain the welfare state in the future.

No, this would ruin the planet. We're already too overpopulated.

Ok then here a quick rundown of my opinions
>Should the state just do nothing as a lethal demographic shift is about to happen?
No
>Should lots of young man who mostly can't even read let alone understand the local language fill in the places? Should people who have a compleatly different set of values come enmass into your country because social benefits are so great?
Noooo
>Why AIDS in Africa?
Because they are fucking stupid. The average iq is almost on retard level by our standards you can't believe they are able to understand how a virus works when they are unable to work a field for two years

The trick with overpopulation is that those, especially those, who understand the threat of it and who would be willing to give up their genetic liniage for the sake of the planet produce as much children as possible.
Because if this righteous and selfless part of humanity does get kids anymore only the rest of it will be left and we have won nothing.

Also Sweden as well as any western country has few jobs that does not require education. This is because most of the manufacturing has moved to Asia and other countries with cheap labor. For Sweden in particular it could be beneficial to bring back some of the manufacturing to create this kind of jobs (just out of responsibility for fellow citizens, not everyone is suited for higher education). The problem with this is that it would not be possible without the state interfering by subsidizing the industry, and so Sweden would have to leave the EU to be allowed to do something like that.

Another problem with foreign laborers is that they are not organized in the Swedish labor unions.

I suppose that way labor is regulated in Sweden is the same as in Norway. That is labor is not regulated through laws imposed by the parliament, but through negotiations between the labor unions LO and the organisations representing the employers. Because labor is not regulated trough legislation a large influx of foreign workers would create a situation with an unregulated job market. This imposes a treat to the way labor is regulated in Sweden. (Traditionally this argument is presented by the labor unions themselves and the left, and the right opposes it).

It's the noble thing to do.

>the state give them places and since they are plenty of immigrants coming they all get placed at the same spot.


What is this bullshit supposed to mean?

The Swedish government does not "give places" which are all located in Malmo and other immigrant-heavy areas. Your government spreads them around. Then, they choose to move to places with other immigrants, and they can do that because you have freedom of movement and the government becomes obliged to pay for their housing wherever they live. This creates segregation.

>the state give them places and since they are plenty of immigrants coming they all get placed at the same spot.
This is not true. In Sweden the refugees are allowed to find their own houses and apartments and the government pay for it.

In Norway we do not allow this. The government buy properties that we call public housing. After someone moves out, other people move in. This way, the government is able to regulate where all these people will live, and so we spread them around and avoid concentrating them in small areas that result in what you call "utenforskapsområder".

The claim that there will be an insufficient number of workers in the future is extremely dubious.

You should find plenty of references to people warning about the future where robots create mass unemployment. You must have these in Sweden as well. Look particularly for those pushing "Universal Basic Income" who will have made many statements to this effect.

Simply put, it's contradictory that robots will create mass unemployment by filling jobs, and that the the aging population will create mass unemployment by leaving jobs. Point out that none of the statements you find on robot-created unemployment also fully incorporate projections on the aging population. It is like two separate arguments in different worlds.

will look into this

noted

wtf is wrong with u people islam is literally god tier religion
>anti degenercy
>strong family valvues
>bloodlines are pure
>overall alphaness

Well, there's more coming

The situation where there are many more young people than old is unsustainable because it requires exponential growth.

Let's say the population mix is 4 young per 1 old. The ratio of young-old is 4-1.

Then the old one dies, and those young people become old. Let's say 1 in 4 die in their 40s or 50s. Result: 3 old.

To maintain the 4:1 ratio you now need 12 young : 3 old.

Let's say we keep the same rate of death. So the old ones die and a quarter of the young people die on the way to old age, leading to 9 old.

To maintain the ratio you need 36 young : 9 old.

Unless you want expontential population growth, you cannot maintain the ratio, it is impossible.

If the aim is to reduce CO2 emissions, that is also a strong argument for a stabilized population. It's contradictory to want immigration from low-CO2 countries to high-CO2 countries and also push for steady population.

Quite simply, you cannot have young people care for old people, AND have many more young people than old people, AND have people living to an old age, AND have a steady population. These factors cannot exist together.

Now, if the aim is still to increase the number of young people, there's two ways to do that: native Swedes have children, and, immigration.

The immigration can be permanent or temporary (Arab world-style where you take in maids from the far east and professionals from the West and they all have to leave to their respective countries).

But immigration brings problems unique to immigration.

So the alternative is to simply attempt to boost the number of children had by those already living in the country. And there's many ways to do that - including ways which haven't been tried.

Your politician jumped at immigration with the excuse that it was to get more young people. But it was never in truth about getting more young people, since if it was, they would rather have tried to make native Swedes have more children first and foremost. It was to get more immigrants specifically.

1. No, not as long as Sweden is at least 99% ethnically Swedish. If Sweden starts getting a lot of immigrants the immigrants should not be allowed to have as many children as they want, it should probably be limited to one or perhaps be banned all together. Ethnic Swedes however should be urged to have as many kids as possible.


2. No, that's a moronic argument. Most labor is outsourced anyway and the labor that is not can be handled without any immigrants at all. If anything ethnic Swedes should be urged to have more kids and then they can feel the worker gap left behind by older generations. A constant influx of immigrants will solve nothing and by the logic they're using bring in more people that will eventually be pensioners. Obviously the jews arrange for it so that niggers and sand niggers are the ones flooding Europe, so of course they're the immigrants and they won't face any difficulties at all because they can rape and be let free, they're almost above the law it seems.


3. Unhygienic niggers that doesn't give a shit and has nothing to live for spread it. Importing more and more niggers an epidemic could go off in Sweden sure, but Sweden unlike niggerstan have skilled doctors


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Islam is a mix between Judaism, Christianity and middle eastern paganism. It's a rip off. Pagan religions are god tier in terms of religions, praising Yahweh is shit tier

1) No, the state should not get invovled in such matters at all, as the state is an agency of coercion and taxation is theft. If you do not understand this, take a few steps back to basic logical principles.

2) Europe is becoming a "retirement home" shithole because of the welfare state. Also this is ONLY a problem for the welfare state.
>What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?
incompatible cultures, lower average IQ and thus economic failure, and religios zeal.

>bloodlines are pure

that's an interesting way of justifying fucking your cousin, ahmed

Repatriera samtligt lågutbildat svartmusk, fängsla folkförrädarna och ge extra deg till etniskt svenska familjer som väljer att ha fler barn.

Är det höga antalet pensionärer ett dilemma, ge då dödshjälp till fattigpensionärerna. De behandlas som avfall ändå i dagens samhälle.

1. The state should stay out of my fucking business.
2. This is insane and the factors putting Europe(and many other nations) into this ageing population should be reduced as much as possible without inhibiting liberty.
Secondly there should be nearly no immigration. Period. And even if I was pro-immigrant immigrants aren't assimilating quick enough to make up for the ageing population resulting in a situation of a permanent angry minority underclass which will at absolute best end up like Black people in america.
3. Reduced sexual morality. People talk about condoms as the solution, but really that becomes irrelevant when the only sex done is consensual hetero-sexual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.

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>1. Shall the state involve themselves in the 'nuclear family' and how many children they should be able to have?
No the state shouldn't determine how many kids you have as long as your a taxpaying citizen who does your social duty, however newcomer permanent residents or welfare shaggies should not be allowed to get bennies for over 2 kids because their stupidity puts the kids in a worse situation anyways for their own gains so there should be a reason for them to not have children when their economic situation cannot support them, however I don't know if this situation would work with strong pre-cultural deposition of some people, especially Muslims, who will pop out 7 kids for the sake of Allah and jihad.
>2. Europe is set to be transformed-into a "retirement home" this is because of an increasing number of older people, who isn't economically active. To counter this development should the European countries open their borders and allow young people to immigrate from states outside Europe? From what areas can you assume that those who move to Europe comes from? What difficulties do the immigrants face as they to move to Europe?
Right now there is a global labor surplus and there is massive overpopulation and wage drops across the Western world, bringing in more people is stupid when you can teach next generations who are already citizens to do those jobs. The argument of GDP growth is crap when Germany's barely went up with all the migrants they got, Western GDP is in post boon and that won't change until the next major tech boom as long as manufacturing returns to Europe/NA. More immigrants put a considerable strain on public infrastructure and it will drive goods prices up and lower wages, old people simply want immigrants to feel morally superior and to help pay for their pensions there is no other benefit when you have an overcrowded welfare liberal state.