Be 18

>be 18
>date 16 year old
>go to jail

Why?

But that's wrong. In Texas we have the 3 year rule or the romeo and juliet rule, where if someone is underage but within 3 years of their partner, it's okay, unless they are under 14

but not all states have that

> tfw 23 and really want to fuck the 17 year old 5/10 ish girl you only work with on weekends.

We work alone and there'd be time for us to fuck since I am basically the manager and close the place.

She is not very cute but she is thin and has a decent ass.

There is probably something wrong with me but she is the only girl I interact with regularly outside of online friendships.

which state you live in?

Odds are you're good to go, bud. Check the map

>date


dating isn't outlawed. keep it in your pants.

kissing and cuddling can be counted as a sexual act though

Because 16 yo girlls will give aeay the pussy for a compliment and mcdonalds. This enrages their moms who see their vagina as the sole worth and ability of getting them out of the house via some prince charming.

We have it in PA

>thing is against the law
>break that law
>face consequences

why, Sup Forums?

Because there's absolutely nothing wrong with dating a sexually mature teenager. Nobody wants to fuck a used up roastie, only virgin girls are worth it tbqh senpai.

why can't you find someone your own age? the only seniors that dated sophomores and freshman's were known weirdos

In PA, 16 is good to go with any adult. Except, of course if they're in a position of responsibility over the 16/17 year old. Teacher, etc

>be 18
>date 16
>dont go to jail
Because age of consent is 16, it's not illegal.

>Nobody wants to fuck a used up roastie

you act as if by the time they 20 they have fucked 200 guys.

If the parents are cool you're all good

t. guy who dated 17 year old when I was 18

>tfw they probably have

anything more than 1 or 2 partners before you is a roastie and if she's not a virgin the marriage is very likely to fail.

because most girls that age have either already had 2 or 3 boyfriends before or are not very attractive

man you guys are really fucking blue pilled if you unironically think that that's not a big deal

having 2 or 3 partners before turning 20 is pretty normal for anybody.

Yes and the likelihood of her not cheating on me is around 40%. It's a fact that women who have had sexual partners before you are much more likely to be unable to be in a stable marriage.

>Be 50
>Work in state department
>Rape children
>Podesta pulls some strings
>No jail

>be victim of child sex trafficking
>get charged for prostitution

>more likely to be unable to be in a stable marriage.

if that's what you think then good luck in life man

Because that's not actually true. Try harder, faggot.

I really don't know why any parent would have an issue with just a year (or even less) gap.

My biggest age gap (with a younger person) was I was involved with a 14 year old when I was 17, but to be fair she initially lied to me about her age and we didn't do anything sexual for at least a year.

I could understand why her parents had beef with it once they found out later on.

Yeah 2 or 3 by 20 isn't the end of the world (at least for me, I'd been in 2 serious long-term relationships by then), but most women these days have way more by that age and they start real young.

He's not wrong. Someone post the graph.

>but most women these days have way more by that age and they start real young.

well there are a number of factors that can contribute to any study. I know in poorer areas the rate at which girls have sex and have kids is higher. but something like that doesn't mean that's the majority thinking in America.

>He's not wrong
I would like to see as well but I don't think there's a lot you can take from it if it's focusing on a single factor. For example there are studies that show that the divorce rate is high but someone can come along and mix in another study about girls having sexual relationships at a younger age and say "ah ha! that's proof for why the divorce rate is so high!".

The truth of the matter is that it's a bit more complicated than people are making it out to be. While the divorce rate is at a all time high there are studies showing that the value of marriage for women is at a all time high.

Because America is a nation of pedophiles and inbreds

Austrian education

so they want people to misuse the term pedophilia to get away with their crimes or what?

>women's value of marriage is at all time high while divorce is at all time high

This isn't particularly surprising. It's because women gain the most benefits from marriage and divorce and risk just about nothing provided they're making less than their spouse (which they usually are, if not just wanting to be a stay at home mom), and more and more men are starting to realize how stacked the deck is against them in this arena and are avoiding it (especially older dudes who have already been divorced once), thereby raising the value of marriage even more

And before anyone accuses me of being a MGTOW fag, I still haven't given up on the idea, but I am going to vet the fuck out of a girl before I put a ring on it. I just wish the courts weren't so fucking feminist.

>but I am going to vet the fuck out of a girl before I put a ring on it. I just wish the courts weren't so fucking feminist.
What's the benefit of doing it officially for men? Like an actual benefit, not joint taxes or a piece of paper.

>It's because women gain the most benefits from marriage and divorce and risk just about nothing provided they're making less than their spouse

while I see that can be seen as a factor I don't really see that holding true besides the select few that are spoiled and rotten. To me the reason why the you have a high divorce rate and a high value on marriage is because the value of marriage has changed. It's changed to the point that it's been given this high standard for people who find their perfect match(your dream girl or dream boy). If you have this mentality then you're going to divorce someone one on a small flaw because society has made it so that your partner has to be perfect. Couples don't try to fix things anymore and always seem to be searching for their dream partner even while their married.

>Austrian education

Stable environment/good example for children, and the romantic/traditional element of it which I still find myself attracted to.

Yeah, it shouldn't matter what a piece of paper says but it does. It's meant to be the last step in a relationship, one that distinguishes your relationship from all the others you've had. Ideally, it provides a reinforcement for a relationship, so that more of an effort is made is maintaining and fixing the relationship at points where either of you might have left otherwise.

>select few

Far more than a few in my experience, but that's probably just a difference in our perspectives.

I don't disagree with the rest (re: couples not bothering to fix things, people divorcing over small details) but you have to consider why this happens when it once didn't, why people have lost respect for the institution. And there's three reasons for that.

1) The societal pressure to remain married and the shame of divorcees no longer exists (in part due to the waning influence of religion in the Western world)
2) Many religions in the Western world have become accepting of divorce, specifically Protestantism, which America at the very least was founded on.
3) Women (the cause of the majority of divorces in modern times) have possibly plenty to gain and almost always nothing to lose via divorce. The current state of the courts reinforce the disposability of marriage and coddle women allowing them to be completely irresponsible with no repercussions.

Maryland has Romeo and Juliet rule as well as the age of consent is 16.

>be a criminial
>commit a crime
>go to jail

Why? Dura lex, sed lex, my ninja.

Lol who cares faggot, teens still mingle at those age ranges but they retarded

Those laws are set up to prevent mature men (>28) from claiming young wives and being able to mold them into virtuous adults

AoC law encourages serial monagamy aka dating which is degenerate but female preference

>Stable environment
I don't think so. I mean, if you truly love each other you'll stay together whether a piece of paper says you are together or not. If she wants to leave you, she is going to leave you, and has a good chance of taking the kids and much of your livelihood so you may never even see the kids again. If anything, it's the perfect setup for a potential unstable environment for the children.
>Good example for children
I think seeing your parents together and happy, and the fact that they care for you and bring you up right would be a good example. I don't think marriage has much to do with it honestly.
>Romantic/traditional element
You can have any kind of ceremony you want and it doesn't have to be an official marriage.

I think it's all forced thinking and propaganda that makes marriage seem like the way to go. I am 100% open to the idea of marriage, but I can't find any good reasons from anyone. Staying in a relationship as an unmarried couple seems perfectly reasonable to me. Papers don't make bonds, love makes bonds. If you're christian, and it's a religious thing, I guess I can understand, but having a religious thing be an official thing by the government seems all kinds of perverted and messed up to me.

>Those laws are set up to prevent mature men (>28) from claiming young wives and being able to mold them into virtuous adults
>AoC law encourages serial monagamy aka dating which is degenerate but female preference
That's an interesting way of thinking of it. Women are followers by nature. They follow the male role model traditionally. 16-21 is when they are the most promiscuous and when they get most of the molding they will use to decide what kind of adults they will be, but is basically an untouchable age for older males in today's world. Men over 30 looking for girls around 20 and younger will be looked at badly. Which makes no sense. What kind of level headed parent wouldn't want their daughter being with a man who has a grasp on life, life experience, a stable income, assets to raise children, and has all his ducks in a row over some 21 year old guy her age who is just starting to experiment with alcohol and could end up being a total hooligan. People are dumb sometimes.

The sexes mature at different rates and female peak much earlier, this is simple biological fact

14 females with men twice their age is ideal and was the norm in Ancient Greece

The pendulum needs to swing farther back onto male preference than that, however, and it should be full mohammed for the years to come

Move to Mississippi, where the age of consent is 16

>Far more than a few in my experience, but that's probably just a difference in our perspectives.

most likely is. I grew up in a culture that emphasizes marriage so my world view could be bit slanted

I agree it with all your points but I feel like there's more to it. Having a society that creates a safety net for women is definitely a factor but I don't believe it's something girls have in mind when they get married.

too add another interesting fact for this discussion it seems like divorce rates have been making a steady decline for the past 3 years. there hasn't really been any change culture wise so maybe the shame of being divorced has started to comeback?

>What kind of level headed parent wouldn't want their daughter being with a man who has a grasp on life, life experience, a stable income, assets to raise children, and has all his ducks in a row over some 21 year old guy her age who is just starting to experiment with alcohol and could end up being a total hooligan.

maybe because parents don't want their daughter getting pregnant at such a young age. men at 30 typically want to start settling down and parents want to their daughter to look at all options in front of her and be on track for a successful career. It's not hard to find a 21 year old guy who's on the right track for a successful life so there really is no need to rush her into a relationship with a older guy.

Its more fun if there is a heavy risk involved
All Americans have this secret fetish

>19 vs 16 petite half-peruvian 5'1
>a few drinks by the fireplace

Pinned her down and made that pussy pop & squelch/queef while she cried out in pain
>No condom
>no hangover
>despite clearly having a horrible time, sent me cute texts for a few weeks making jokes about her rugburn

Truth is, most American women have become whores through media overconsumption

Underage girls are objectively better because they can't legally have tattoos in California & haven't completely destroyed their own bodies yet

Women are supposed to get pregnant between 16 and 23. Why waste your most fertile years on partying and fucking strangers?

>There is probably something wrong with me

If you believe the (((US media))) brainwashing then yes. In reality, studies show that when men are show pictures of females not knowing their age, the most desired age range is 14-16yo. Sadly I don't have that study at hand.

>Women are supposed

no they aren't. they can have kids just fine at 30...the same common age men want to start settling down....really makes you think.

Cause body is crying for sex and runs on hormones, but mind is full of shit thanks to mindwashing educations, whoring culture and sosial pressure given by peers already doing that shit?

>If you believe the (((US media))) brainwashing

being civilized is considered being brainwashed now? you don't mess with those ages because at that time they are stupid enough to believe and follow anything. If you get off at controlling girls then I get it but you don't need to be changing laws for it.

Shut up cunt

Women are lucky they aren't traumatized and enslaved since birth in a reverse Esther Vilar utopia.

The risks for autism/down's syndrome and other genetic disorders is significantly higher at that age.

I bet there's a roastie behind that screen.

We should experiment with extreme early pregnancies as my hypothesis is the body bounces back and remains more aesthetically attractive after. Where is Dr. Mengele when you need him?

To prevent whites from having children and starting families

There is only 2 ways to defeat feminism in this timeline.

>WW3
Bigger than WW2. Women issues and libtard shit obviously dies out for decade+ of survival.
AoC obviously doesn't even matter anymore.

>AoC gets lowered legally
Whores lose control and real families with values naturally flood the country

That's really about it. Goodluck!

for the same reason american boys have their genitals mutilated: Jewish Tradition.

(((They))) consider 18 a special number.

>traumatized and enslaved since birth in a reverse Esther Vilar utopia.

no need to bring up your erotic literature lol. just because you want to enslave them doesn't mean everyone else does too

But 12,5 year old girls are legally considered women under jewish law.

>being civilized is considered being brainwashed now?
The conditioning is working I see.

>you don't mess with those ages because at that time they are stupid enough to believe and follow anything.
You know what happens when you look at that problem in details? You will ultimately realize that stripping away the female from male reigns as an early age is one of the key points why women got so much rights in the first place. In addition to no longer following the man (i.e. usually conservative values, early marriage etc) they now have the time to "believe and follow" the mainstream media. As a result, when you think it is ok do date/fuck women, they are already indoctrinated by liberal ideas for several years.

I hope you get what I'm getting it... the conditioning runs deep.

>If you get off at controlling girls then I get it but you don't need to be changing laws for it.
It's not about getting off, it's about keeping the easily influenced (young females) away from the ones shitting out the propaganda. Giving 50 million females to a man at a young age will create 50 million probably different women in the end with also probably shared community values. Don't give them to the man at an early age and you'll get 5 million reasonable women and 45 million completely indoctrinated by the media and public education.

>inb4 t. Achmed

Think about it, increasing the age of consent, especially in the US, was one of the major tricks the kikes used to destroy the actual patriarchy, i.e. before we started the current decline. This is also part of the destruction of the family unit, take kids out of the family as early as possible and give them over to state funded education and care, while the parents work their ass off to finance such a system where they see their kids less and less.

Correct and a critical period. I sometimes wonder if this really is the end times and if the timelines will soon diverge altogether. GG no re

If you haven't read the Manipulated Man or other related works you are a damn fool and I should take violent offense.

>The risks for autism/down's syndrome and other genetic disorders is significantly higher at that age.

false. you're pretty safe until the age of 33. even a little after 33 your risk of having kids with problems don't increase dramatically

right and theres something about 3 year olds in the talmud

I'm just pointing out that 18 is the magic number for adulthood, because of jewish infuence on American cultural values. American culture and institutions is created by the jews. Youre an adult when you turn 18 to conform with jewish values.

why is everyone so pedophobic?

if you drop the bullshit, 12-year-olds don't even look that young.

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Every menstruation is a waste of life-force.

>they are already indoctrinated by liberal ideas for several years.

depends on the area and depends on what you define as liberal. girls in the south are less likely to follow a extreme liberal view point than a girl in new York on California.

>away from the ones shitting out the propaganda

anyone can shit out propaganda for either side.

>This is also part of the destruction of the family unit

divorce has been going down in America.

is she 18 tho?

>divorce has been going down in America.
This just shows that you barely comprehend what I wrote. Divorce has barely anything to do with the destruction of the family unit. Giving the nurturing and education completely over to state run, taxpayer funded is the biggest factor in the destruction of the family... which of course perfectly aligns with the communist agenda.

On the rest... you didn'T even scratch any of my talking points really.

>girls in the south are less likely to follow a extreme liberal
Yet I would claim that 80% of the girls in "the south" are still completely retarded while it might be 95% in California. The is prevalent everywhere when looking at the statistics about which gender voted for which party (especially in the multi-party politics in Europe). We are not talking about 50/50 here, often not even 80/20, in Germany it's closer to 90/10 with 90% of women being completely useless in the political, historical and philosophical way, while for men it is like 60/40.

You even wrote yourself that the young girls "are stupid enough to believe and follow anything" when you live in a system that promotes taking nurture and education out of the family. THIS is the destruction of the family unit, not some retarded divorce statistic, because that is just the symptom, not the cause.

we do in Minnesota two and the age of consent is 16

Who cares? Both legal here

who cares

this

The age of consent for pornography was raised to 18 in 2004 tho.

>pornography
is this the reason we can't have nice things?

Parental consent is required in all states that have lower than 18.
Only way to save the world from libcucks is to lower that a few years and leave consent to the one consenting.
This issue is more important than healthcare.
It is the only way to stop feminism dead in its tracks once and for all.
Save the world

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chekked

irrelevant

i want to die between those thighs

you're right. pornography is pretty immoral and americans base all sexuality off porn so that's probably why they have so many dumb and ignorant

views on it

Far as I know this meme photo is pretty old so if the answer was no at the time the answer most likely now is yes.

I believe if you're 18 you should be able to date as low as 16.
If you're 19, as low as 17.
Once you hit 20, it's 18 and older forever.

so is it going to get the ban?

no you should be able to date 14 year olds as long as you're not being a manipulative controlling prick

There's really no way to judge that until after the crime as been committed, it's really not worth the trouble.

The rule is Age/2 + 7.
Therefore if you are 18, it is only acceptable for you to date someone who is 16 or older.

No it literally is the way it is in Austria. If you're over 21, your partner is 14 or 15 and you exploit their inability to comprehend the significance of a sexual act. So if the other person is being a manipulative asshole he can still get prosecuted.

Also, nowadays many 13 year olds have thick asses and D cup tits. I'd never date a dumbass 13 year old but damn, don't tell me you don't get a boner seeing a fresh sexually mature body like that.