What is so great about the Catholic Church?
Why is it considered the most 'red-pilled' religion around these parts?
From what I can see, it has a tendency to fuck up countries in a similar way to Islam.
I also find it strange that Sup Forums is so pro-Catholic when we're apparently anti-collectivist. I mean having to do what a supreme leader (Pope) and his cronies say kind of goes against individual freedom.
Anyway, please discuss.
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>why is Catholicism considered redpilled
Because of this
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The younger priests coming out of seminary are /our/guys there's a lot happening behind the scenes that we don't know
Nothing. It's literally a parasitic institution that leeches Europe since the Roman Empire: Europeans made Christianity great.
Abrahamic Religions are truly the greatest cancer.
So why do Catholics collude with Jews against Protestants?
Jewish bankers bought out the Vatican after WWI by paying all their debt for them
Not making that up
So why does Sup Forums go on about Catholicism like its going to be the saviour of Western Civilisation?
Catholicism, Indeed Christianity, is a cornerstone of Western European culture. While certain elements inside the Vatican may be compromised, the Faith is not.
Like I said, the church is already Uncucking itself behind the scenes, look into SSPX
It seems to me Protestantism has done more to advance Western Civilisation.
Sure Catholicism meant we have some nice buildings, paintings and sculptures, but the real work was done by the Protestants.
>real work was done by Protestants
Explain?
Catholicism is what brought Europe together during the dark ages, The crusades in large part formed the countries we see today.
Not to mention all the information they preserved and archived for the future.
As well as laying the groundwork for modern science and university
If I take a while to answer don't think I left, I just have to take a quick shower brb
It's not considered that here you dummy. Orthodoxy is redpilled
Defending monogamy and marriage which is the core of the family and by extension, of our civilization.
Defending life, which is a moral obligation.
Defending reproductive sex, against the downfall of birthrates and our countries.
Defending heterosexuality against the appraisal of homosexuality and tanssexuality.
Defending traditional role models, protecting the children from being taken away from their mothers at an to early stage.
Sup Forums isnt cucktholic, it's actually balanced religiously from what i can see
Sup Forums is collectivist if you are talking about stormfags and white nationalists
I understand that, but in recent times Catholicism is largely seen as 'backwards' compared to Protestantism.
For instance the Enlightenment, development of democracy and scientific progress are largely attributed to and associated with Protestantism.
Of course whether one views those things as good or bad depends on your subjective position.
nothing. christianity is a religion for slaves.
Since 1588, Protestantism has been fighting and burying every argument that the Papacy has used to deny the divinity of God.
Or as John says:
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Since their power have been taken away in 1798. The Papacy has been trying to destroy Protestantism by conforming to the world, and have succeeded. And Judaism denies Christ's divinity anyhow, so why not team up?
I find it bizarre that Protestantism or it's offshoots are the main focus of (((their))) strategies.
(((They))) have no problem with importing millions upon millions of Catholics in the form of Mexicans.
Why is this? What do (((they))) find so dangerous about Protestants?
>subjective view of democracy good/bad
Fair point
Democracy fell out of favor with me before I discovered Catholicism was against it as well. The reason for this is because the church has principles that dont change with public opinions, as is the case (from what I've seen) with many Protestant sects.
Those unchanging principles are what has prevented lesbian bishops and gay marriage in the Catholic Church
>The younger priests coming out of seminary are /our/guys there's a lot happening behind the scenes that we don't know
any proof?
The reason why the church is against Protestantism is because it is viewed as heresy (which it is :^) t. Catholic)
I think Protestantism is easier for (((them))) to infiltrate and manipulate because they follow Sola Scriptura, and their definitions of scripture are loose, whereas the Catholic definitions are set in stone so to speak
May I ask what your preferred system to democracy would be?
The future of democracy is an interesting debate that will probably come to the fore in the coming years so I'm interested in people's opinions.
>proof
From what I've seen, there is a difference between younger and older priests, the young ones seem more in line with us
As for the a Vatican, I don't have a very good look into Vatican politics, but the fact that SSPX has been given more freedoms to do their work is a very good sign
Because 75 years ago it was one of the most conservative christian faiths. Thing is, it's now more degenerate than just about any protestant church besides Anglicans.
I know it sounds like a bit of a meme, but somewhere between Facism And Monarchism
I can see the flaws in both of them, but I also think they do provide for the best and most efficient systems of governing when the conditions are right
This. Protestants endlessly splinter off from one another because there is no authority to end the debate so to speak.
t. converting from Protestant to Catholic
Ethnically homogeneous constitutional monarchy. The monarchs kept the Jews out of the money system for 700 years in Britain, while democracy has left us at the mercy of oligarchs and plutocrats who have no other concern than the exploitation of our resources and our people.
Young christians here are cucked beyond belief. I actually can't stand them atm because they only care about some kind of short-term inclusivity where the mantra is "do not judge"
But I don't know about the priests, though, because I don't anyone who's one or studying to become one.
It varies from place to place here too, I had a high energy parish in VA that was based as fuck but now I'm in a low energy parish in CT
Because KJV, NIV, ESV etc. are complete and utter shit compared to the uncorrupted Vulgate and heresy is for faggots.
Is this a similar position to the one Evola held?
>Ethnically homogeneous constitutional monarchy
How would this ever actually happen?
>Catholicism, Indeed Christianity, is a cornerstone of Western European culture.
The same could be said of paganism, or Roman pantheism, but it's not the case anymore in each case. Christianity of some kind might be the key to European revival, but Catholicism is done unless the cardinals murder Francis and install a crusader in the next few years.
>it has a tendency to fuck up countries in a similar way to Islam
Low IQ mestizos, not the Cat church, anglo heretic...
>heresy is for faggots
Your Pontiff hosts Muslim prayers in the Vatican and you're crying over translation.
>shiggy
Except it didn't. All it did was just loosen the grip of Catholicism to control progress. That's it
Pope Francis needs a Helicopter ride.
The Enlightenment is in fact associated with a move away from religion in general. Many key enlightenment thinkers themselves contradict protestant thinking to begin with
>same position as Evola
Idk never looked into his stuff
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they're Babylonian heretics
Yet the early christians contradict protestantism.
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Simple. the catholic church is the One True Church of Christ, directly founded by Christ himself with Peter as the first Pope.
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock] I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it"
Has any of you actually had like a supernatural experience some sort of miracle ?
Im an atheist or agnostic depending of your definition but i wished that i wasnt sometimes since i believe that religion is a must have for a succesfull civilization, plus sadness and being lotivated is a lot easier to cope with being religious
But i think now the only way i can cross to the other side is having an actual miracle or revelation to happen in front of me
Maybe so, but Protestantism allowed an environment where that kind of thinking could occur without severe backlash from the church, as would occur in Catholic places.
Spinoza was arguably the main influence on enlightenment thought, and it's no coincidence he lived in protestant Amsterdam.
>development of democracy and scientific progress are largely attributed to and associated with Protestantism.
Is that what you are taught in school?
Democracy was born in Greece, and given rise in the Medieval Ages. Science too was born in Greece, and the methodology perfected by Catholics.
Protestantism gave us the French Terror, Communism, and two world wars, not to mention the pornographically of society and destruction of the family.
*motivated
Good goyim, remember your pope is infallible
I wasn't fond of Obama either, but that didn't make me less of an American.
Plus, petrine supremacy is a recent invention. Infallibility can go fuck it itself. Black popes are mad real.
Is it a coincidence that his ideas is what today's Protestants would label as heresy and fake?
All you can say is that the Eblightenment was the product of the trend to question religious traditions already established but that's it. You cannot say that Protestantism itself is the result of such when a simple look at Calvin's Geneva or the Puritan colonies of America would say otherwise
Sorry but prodestant are rabidly pro Israel especially in Murcia. The papacy has become too liberal for sure but at least they chose the anti-Israel side of liberalism. Evangelicals are responsible in large part for all of americas blunders in the Middle East, and are Israel lobbyist infestation.
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Modern democracy is very different to that of Ancient Greece.
And the Scientific Method was perfected during the Enlightenment.
>we're apparently anti-collectivist
Speak for yourself ancap nigger.
You must be joking, Jews have been playing Anglicans like a fucking puppet for the last 500 years.
What does your trip mean?
Christianity is just another form of culutral marxism
Orthodox Church is the most red-pilled thing around these parts
The scientific method also led to the ridicule of Christianity as a whole. This video also explains the irony of Sola Scriptura backed with plenty of historical evidence
I have been mostly been to non denominational or Baptist churches while my wife has always gone to Lutheran churches. Catholicism is interesting to me but it seems to really push idolatry(worship of the pope, saints, Mary, Cardinals etc.) can anyone explain how that isn't wrong? Also the church seems very ornate and full of itself which seems at odds w/ Jesus' method. I am not trying to slight it, just offering up some concerns however I am open minded to catholicism.
>You must be joking, Jews have been playing Anglicans like a fucking puppet for the last 500 years.
Praise the Lord, Bubba...
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For instance the Enlightenment, development of democracy and scientific progress are largely attributed to and associated with Protestantism.
That's why Catholicism is obviously better, the Enlightnment was cancer and the French Revolution was the worst uprising of godless subhumans until the Russian Revolution.
>Netherlands
>Calvin
>The "Protestant" that studied under a Rabbi and implied that more wealth = saved by God
Yes good goy, only the (((rich))) are saved
Join the catholic threads on sundays. Ask and read.
>idoltary
Protestants get this so wrong, we don't worship a specific object we pray to it (say a saint's relic) and hopefully a saint hears it and prays on our behalf to God.
We pray to these people/saints etc so they may pray on out behalf.
It gets annoying when alot of people that don't know the faith say that we worship a pope or someone, we pray to them so they may pray on our behalf
So feudalism is better than democracy?
Or I guess you would DEFINITELY have been a lord or monarch wouldn't you?
As laughable as commies who think they will be members of the Politburo and be the ones to put everyone else to work.
I didn't mean to offend that's why I asked. Apologies for my poor phrasing of it. So it's basically you praying and imploring for a righteous person to pray on your behalf. What about confession, why confess to a man instead to God? Again if I am oversimplifying things I am not attempting to offend on purpose I am generally curious. I hope to ask more in the Catholic thread on Sunday.
Mass democracy, a sinister bastardization of original pagan republicanism in Greece and Rome, arose from the "enlightenment". Many good ideas came from the movement but everything wrong with the modern west first gained traction there. The blank slate, legal equity, mass democracy, "social contract" style populist collectivism, and many other degenerate ideas were created in that clusterfuck. I'm sure you will say that enlightenment ideas helped the west, but the ideas that actually worked politically were changed to be heavily hierarchical and only worked in a limited capacity. Europeans soon became decadent slaves to the Jews once enlightenment ideals were fully carried out during the 20th century.
>Democracy
Democracy has been around since ancient Greece, unless you mean (((democracy))) of the modern day.
Yep pretty much. If you think about it Saints, etc are blessed and on our behalf to pray for us to God, is a blessing.
You should definitely check out the Young Pope, you'd love the show. Good intro for normies into Catholocism. And joing the /cg/ on sundays, wolfshiem the namefag is a good intro.
We've converted or brought back a couple anons into the church.
Catholicism is cucked.
Protestantism is muh 6000 years old sola scriptura nonsense.
Orthodoxy is LARP.
In the year 1000 pope sylvester 2, a practicing sorcerer, went and hung out with Muslims and came back with a demoness.
He then forced intelligentsia movement by requiring an adaptation of the Muslims inferior decimal system to be used over the traditional 60base Pythagoras count system.
He then died from a curse, and that's the first time the Catholics turned away from god.
Orthodox churches are controlled by the state (basically that's the whole thing behind the schism) which can backfire severely, like it did under Communist rule. Dogmatically they are far better than Protestants though, but burgers on Sup Forums converting to Orthodoxy is meme-tier, especially when they try to proselytise Europeans from Catholic countries while having no ideas about the cultural divide between us.
This, Calvin basically made kikery a preferable thing, while the Church fought against it for centuries. Though even during Luther's heresy, most of the converted nobles only wanted to seize the lands and wealth of the Church.
Also some advice, love the faith, and don't judge just because of the pope's stances. The church has literally been the same for the most part except for Vatican 2 which I think is a bit of a mistake (im more traditionalist leaning) but its okay
>That's why Catholicism is obviously better, the Enlightnment was cancer and the French Revolution was the worst uprising of godless subhumans until the Russian Revolution.
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Most protestants here dont know shit about the israel conflict yet are still pro israel
Democracy is cancer. There is no connection between feudalism and Christianity, as similar systems have developed in non-Christian countries as well, but if you think other than the total lack of healthcare a medieval peasant had a worse life than you you are deluded.
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I appreciate it, I look forward to checking out /cg/ on Sunday. Thanks. I know the current pope is a bit off to most like you said below but I am keeping an open mind.
Where would you place yourself in a hierarchical social system?
Would you be prepared to bow down to a lord, a baron, a king?
It isn't.
The based church is pic related.
I agree
Religion is a tool to gain power and greed by means of controlling the masses
Then, government (or at least those with power--right now conservatives) use religion to influence their agenda onto the simple minded chumps that hump the bible
The real truth in the 1-2 testaments was purposely withheld from the bibles assembly to manipulate the readers
Hell, catholic priest admitted the catholic church made up hell to scare people.. For CONTROL
Wake the fuck up people!
CONTROL
Tfw im going to the vatican in two weeks.
Holy week in Italy, any awesome places to see?
See the den of white people getting BTFO for their racism
Satanic bullshit.
"someone speak to us..."
"Spinoza gave us the greatest challenge of all..."
"prayer is not a list of requests..."
Do NOT get your Catechism from the Jewtube, please.
Like i said, its a good intro for normies. The show is pretty good for what it is.
Perhaps it was better, sense it is hard to compare with modern technology, all the worst things of that time had to do with famines and war.
Peasants had more free time than the average worker does today.
And praying isnt for a request. I personally believe its for reflection and guidance rather than saying a list like stuff for santa to answer
Kek, is this a troll?
>What is so great about the Catholic Church?
apparently being rapped as a kid
>Why is it considered the most 'red-pilled' religion around these parts?
nothing it's should be called the jewish church, Jesus is atrezzo-decoration
>From what I can see, it has a tendency to fuck up countries in a similar way to Islam.
Taking the Bible literally, any other thing to say
>I also find it strange that Sup Forums is so pro-Catholic when we're apparently anti-collectivist. I mean having to do what a supreme leader (Pope) and his cronies say kind of goes against individual freedom.
Sup Forums=bunch of cucks, a black immigrant catholic priest is heading its way to anybody who entered here to fuck his wife and kids, enjoy the cucking
It's whatever the fuck you want it to be. If you feel like asking God for a list of requests, go for it. Anybody who says that is "wrong" is a poseur.
I'm not going to tell you how to talk to God.
I'd rather bow to a man who is responsible for protecting my interests than some big daddy government who only sees me as a statistic at best, and an evil white male at worst and doesn't even let me have tools to protect myself.
What scares me is they don't care about the conflict's history or legal basis. Christian Zionists (most evangelicals) essentially worship Jews and Americanism, they don't care how legally wrong Israel is because they see it as holy due to its Jewish and democratic leanings. These types of idolaters constitute a majority of the neocon wing and the republican establishment. Their lunacy is best displayed whenever some AIPAC or Israeli gov kike comes over here and they give him 10 minute standing ovations and swear absolute devotion to Israel. It's literally one step bellow moloch worship and needs to be physically removed from our country.
Fit me m8. 1v1, ill rekt u 420 noscope
They also had more a sense of community, strong family bonds and ties, and a cultural hegemony that allowed them freedom and shared values.
It's a terrible institution designed to make people weak. "Do as I say not as I do" x1000
Whatever is good or moral in Catholicism can simply be found in any generic traditionalism. No imposing church hierarchy is needed.
Do not listen to the Papist's lies, OP.
Catholicism is literally Jew-lite. Protestantism is the true teaching of Christ.
Are you surprised that the second you opened your mouth and said Protestantism was better you were swarmed by the CIDF? You shouldn't be.
It is no coincidence, OP, that since the Protestant reformation, man has gone through the greatest and most significance explosion of its very soul since the beginning of time. From art and culture, to science and technology, to political and economic theory. Whatever you can think of, Man finally freed himself from the shackles, freed himself from what was holding him back. The Jew and the Catholic. The very things Christ tried to free us from.
There is nothing between you and Christ, user. He never once implied it. Only those who sought to control did.
Is it coincidence like the world feels like it is going backward in time? No. The Jew and the Catholic are making their play for control again.
I ask you truly, user, who in their right mind or without an agenda would make an unironic statement that humanity should go back to rule of Monarchy? Unless they were trying to bring you back under their control? Who would make that statement? Did Christ, in all his teaching, suggest that you should live in accordance to the Kingdoms of Men? Or did he declare One authority and one law over and above all who would dare preach otherwise?
Deep down, you know the answer, user. There's a reason Monarchy has the word "arch" in it. It stands for Archon. Those who desire control.
Ignore them, user. Let these Catholics and Jews believe the lies of their "gods" while you continue to follow God. Enjoy your eternal peace, user, and let them enjoy their eternal nightmare.