I've heard so many conflicting opinions on this that it's hard to come to a solid conclusion...

i've heard so many conflicting opinions on this that it's hard to come to a solid conclusion, so i want to hear some anecdotes from people who've tried it.

is it a meme, or are there really benefits?

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Stop watching porn
Max twice a week using only your imagination to a girl you know IRL

Its real.

Once you get marries and have kids though watch porn and fap away to your hearts content.

Why is that any better than using (((porn)))?

I feel like shit when I fap a lot

Fapping after a long break feels like heaven though

Porn is bad.
Mastutbation isn't the issue.
Learn to dissociate both.

It is 100% proven to increase focus and I agree

Enormous ones. I suggest you look at the accounts on www.yourbrainonporn.com and Reddit Nofap to begin with. Here are 100 common benefits people report:

yourbrainonporn.com/100-benefits-quitting-porn

Random selection:

8. Increased energy levels;
9. Reduced depression ;
10. Deeper interactions with others;
11. Improved integrity;
12. Boosted confidence;
13. No social anxiety;
14. Better focus on task at hand;
15. Enjoying simple pleasures more deeply;
16. Increased faith in ability to control negative mental triggers ;
17. No risk of arrest or legal troubles;
18. Increased joy;
19. Renewed self-respect;
20. More free time;
21. Need to sleep less;
22. More free cash;
23. Confidence to try new things;
24. Increased humility:
25. Asking others for help;
26. Better partnership with girlfriend;
27. Better ability to learn and remember new things and new ‘songs’;
28. Can travel without paranoia of border checks;
29. No worries about of being found by somebody;
30. Not supporting organized crime;
31. True bonds with friends;
32. Better fitness level;
33. New doors opening to spiritual world
34. Confidence to take on any task
35. Ability to strike up conversation with anyone I choose without fear or insecurity;
36. No paranoia;
37. Increased motivation for self-improvement;
38. Feeling of wholeness that is not reliant on an external source ;
39. Not being enslaved by the need for porn;
40. No more feeling guilty;
41. Saving time;
42. Communicating more;
43. Renewed sense to sensations;
44. So much more energy than before ;
45. Deeper philosophical thinking;
46. Way more patience;
47. Increased brainpower and mental endurance;
48. Regain of focus to finish one job before starting the next one;
49. Waking up in the morning feeling rested;
50. The return of wit;
51. Improved ability to relate:

etc. etc.

I don't know, I've mostly stopped (once a week at the most) and have just been having sex, I feel a lot more confident, but the occasional quick nut from fapping is nice sometimes

>t. cucked pussywhipped husband

"remember..
no porn" - 10/10 IGN will make you feel better

Healthy moderation, basically what says. Stop touching your penis damnit, you're a man, not a kid anymore.

As with all things in life moderation. If you are faping everyday and you have not accomplished anything you should stop.
But a nighttime spank and sleep is not too bad. It's the end of your day and not interrupting something productive.

I heard about it for a long time and didn't take it seriously until I finally got in a solid long term relationship. The issue for me is delayed ejaculation. Basically it's hard to cum and makes sex that enjoyable beyond the ego trip. It wasn't a big issue when I was having one night stands with different girls each night, because it was always exciting. But then once I had a consistent GF I realized that my porn addiction was ruining my sex life and my intimacy with my gf.

I am on day 3 and feel more confident and motivated already. My diet hasn't been such an issue and I am doing a lot more reading now that I don't fap for the 1-1.5 hours I normally would.

I've been trying it and failing for about six months now. This is harder than when I quit drinking or quit smoking. This tells me PMO is way more addictive than I thought, but I'm still trying to stop.

but is this only for quitting porn or for quitting masturbation aswell?

I guarantee you 95% if that is placebo effect from working towards a meta-goal.

It works in the sense you get a feeling of power from achieving a meta-goal but if you're using no fap, try to put yourself on another meta-goal after it works.

You still need to fap after to keep the prostate cancer away.

It is 100% real.
Try it for a month and find out.

>A month with no fapping? Impossible.
If you can't go a month without fapping you are in the category of people who need it most.

>The effects are all placebo
I can only speak for myself, but I am more energetic and focused when I do not fap. You will notice gradual changes over time. For me it has been the following:

>Wake up in the morning and do not feel groggy.
>Spend more time doing healthy hobbies like exercising and reading.
>More outgoing and social.

I highly recommend it. Don't let people talk you out of it.

>to a girl you know IRL
That's creepy though.
It's the opposite for me. I can't concentrate if I haven't fapped in too long.
Exercise (which you should do anyway) will offset any negative side effect fapping could possibly have.
I try to avoid porn though.

>That's creepy though.
You absolute fucking faggot.

Both. In order to achieve a "reboot" one has to abstain both from masturbation and pornography for a period of between three to six months. See rebooting accounts here: reuniting.info/download/pdf/0.BENEFITS.pdf

The notion that ejaculation is needed to protect against prostate cancer is a myth. The data show quite the opposite.

yourbrainonporn.com/discussion-of-prostate-research

>I guarantee you 95% if that is placebo effect from working towards a meta-goal.

"This page lists all the studies assessing the brain structure and functioning of Internet porn users. To date every study offers support for the porn addiction model (no studies falsify the porn addiction model). The results of these 32 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 200+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. All support the premise that internet porn use can cause addiction-related brain changes, as do 10 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature."

yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

Yeah another strange thing is sometimes when I am sitting at my desk I notice I just start touching myself like wtf even if I am not watching anything. I have to keep stopping myself.

i can't fucking stop, i literally cannot fall asleep without having my nightly fap.

send fucking help i want to stop.

it's real. stop watching porn.

>the bigger the lie the easier it is to believe
a male can cut off his balls/penis decide he's a woman and then have sex with men or even animals pretending he's got 2 spirits and is a dragonkin and society says it's okay.

why is it okay? because he's having sex. YOU MUST HAVE SEX. if you're a celibate male society treats you worse than anything even pedophiles. you ever wonder why that is? why fuck do people who have sex with their own gender and don't reproduce babies get approval above men who are celibate?

why do jews run the porn business and all (((their))) studies want you to masturbate cause it's healthy and good like islam, feminism, and multiculturalism? why do priests practice celibacy and spilling your seed is bad?

fapping and sex isn't about reproduction but something else and it's bad for you. that's why they won't allow men to be celibate but allow them to cut off their genitals and have sex with other men/animals.

If I don't fap I get incredibly uncomfortable, depressed, self-conscious, etc. How to not feel this way? It's like impossible for me when I come home from work tired not to look at least porn ...

Seriously I quit drinking, smoking, and weed all at the same time no problem.

Touching my fucking dick tho, turns out I've been addicted to that for a long fucking time because this is hard af.

Easy work around: work your Kiegel Muscles and make yourself cum while you flex your dick. Not only does it help you hold your juice while pounding Puss, but it doesn't have any of the same self-loathing as fondling yourself

When you feel the urge, get out of bed and go do some exercise. Go and run outside. Keep yourself busy until you feel so tired that you can't stay up any more.

you feel that way from watching porn. it's like if you got a crack addiction you NEED to do it otherwise you feel fucked. the only thing you do is kick the habit and suffer while the craving go away.

are you unhappy with your work/life situation and using porn as an outlet for your tensions? that's what it is for me at least

I wouldn't use someone's else likeness without permission like this. Even though it's allowed for private usage, it's not respectful. Fictional characters and public figures are OK though.

it's not a placebo. many spiritual systems of meditation and yoga place emphasis on preserving the seed, not ejaculating. From what I have read, heard from others, and experienced myself, there are numerous physical, emotional, and psychological changes that take place when you masturbate less, or not at all.

Or keep fucking your wife.

>It's the opposite for me. I can't concentrate if I haven't fapped in too long.

You sound a bit like a junkie...

To all the fappers in this thread:

Try no-fap/no-porn for a month. Really try it and when you get the urge, keep yourself busy with something else.

Just see what happens.

Addicts of alcohol, tobacco, drugs, gambling, etc., experience exactly the same phenomenon. Not a few people report physical shaking and trembling during the recovery process:

yourbrainonporn.com/book/export/html/82

"Here's what I'm dealing with: irritability, fatigue, inability to sleep (even sleep aids don't help much), trembling/shaking, lack of focus, shortness of breath, and depression."

The following represents a list of common cocaine withdrawal symptoms:

Fatigue
Depression
Lack of pleasure
Generalized malaise
Anxiety
Vivid and unpleasant dreams
Increased appetite
Irritability
Slowing of activity
Agitation and restless behavior
Sleepiness
Extreme suspicion

One has to recover from an addiction in order to relieve oneself of the need to have the thing in question, and so achieve greater mental strength and tranquillity.

I hear you. After 4 days it feels like my dick is going to explode. Every decent looking girl irl or online triggers me. The porn jew is real my friend.

Nobody can concentrate if they haven't fapped in too long. People who aren't too full of estrogen also have automatic wet dreams after a certain point. Nofap is great. If you have no balls, that is.

If I don't drink I get incredibly uncomfortable, depressed, self-conscious, etc. How to not feel this way? It's like impossible for me when I come home from work tired not to drink at least a bottle of wine.

Online is the worst because there are soo many sloots online. The real world can definitely be an issue because of girls in leggings and what not.

That's actually something I look forward to are those wicked wet dreams when you blow a load, the problem is the clean up.

this is lie the jews told you. if you're busy in life like 100% busy and you absolutely no time to fap then you won't fap and do just fine.

it's only because you've got free time and the ability to fap you do it. porn is an addiction and you're just denying that shit. i don't blame you cause this is the biggest lie around.

Congrats, you're an average, healthy, masculine man.

You will end up fucking a fat girl with no protection three weeks in and regretting it afterwards and then panic when she pulls the "I think I might be pregnant" game.

Literally all it takes to not be a fuck up to use moderation and not fap eight times a day and stick to vanilla softcore or pov porn if you do have to use porn.

If you can go without thinking about sex at all for months and never have any sexual release at all then it doesn't matter anyway because it's already too late for you, the xenoestrogens have had their way with you. Shoulda bought a water filter.

If you're one of the sad fucks that's into traps, being a sissy or cuck shit then its also too late for you. All available actual data points not towards getting into increasingly weird porn over time, but that being exposed to weird porn at a young age fucks up your sexuality/sexual desires. You shouldnt've watched all that hentai and BBC sissy cuck porn when you were 14. Blame your parents for not putting a filter on your internet and yourself for being a fucking degenerate. The only thing that will fix you now is a short rope and a tall chair.

If that's your goal then there's nothing better than nofap for that for sure.

Every recovery account ever written says precisely the opposite. The powers of concentration always improve.

e.g.:

1) I'm so used to being wrecked by a porn addiction for the last 15 years, I don't know what to do with all this energy. I used to be constantly exhausted, had to force myself to do things, was in a mental fog, I had trouble concentrating, and everything in life was just a drag."

2) Day 27 - I must say that something just feels different about my energy level: I can work longer, it seems I don't need breaks, my ability to concentrate is huge.... All that stuff. I don't need much sleep at all to function great. One thing that is very funny is that I talk to a lot of beautiful women in class. Yet I'm
extremely calm and relaxed around them.
I notice after more than one week that my mind is more in balance, more
silent then before. I can easily concentrate on work and get things done. What I also notice is that I enjoy other things more than I did before. My skin is getting healthier. It looks better. My confidence has grown a lot. I
feel much better and confident in what I do and my voice has become
heavier. Feels good"

3) "I'm finally able to concentrate properly and make actual progress with my
school work and study for entrance exams and I have noticed that after one week
of no PMO I have a lot less internal monologue and I tend to think more about
present and future and almost not about past."

When you masturbate, your body thinks you've just had sex. It diminishes your drive towards finding a real relationship because you end up thinking in your subconscious, "Oh I'm fine I'm getting tons of pussy who cares about women."

Do not fap or look at porn. It builds self-discipline and diminishes a broken dopamine tolerance that builds up after you fap regularly for a long time. You'll eventually start to enjoy things you used to love again if you can keep a long enough streak.

>28. Can travel without paranoia of border checks;
30. Not supporting organized crime;

On the contrary, abstaining from pornography and masturbation has cured thousands of people of every sexual fetish under the sun. See yourbrainonporn.com/are-fetishes-innate and yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable

you guys are wrong and addict to the porn jew. you realize that you can not eat food or drink water but you're telling us we need to beat our penis otherwise we can't function? does that really make sense in your head? what the fuck.

"urge" doesn't cut it. you get angry, sad, and scared but that doesn't mean you piss your pants and murder people randomly. it's called self-control and it's exactly what you lack. like lots of other people said you can kick smoking, alcohol, and even drugs easily but not fapping is like heroin withdraw. that's BAD. that's not a good sign.

Good goy.

>jerk off to porn that jews all produce and want you to watch for a dopamine rush
>nothing in life can be beyond this and there's nothing negative! really, all those heroin like withdraws you get are cause this is so good for you!
you're fucking kike.

I live with my gf...im assuming sex has the same effect as fapping? I cant exactly not fuck her for a month.

You should go to the doc. Your gyno is growing again.

How the fuck is this a good goy? He's going directly against something that causes men to be complacent and not desire reproduction or stable relationships.

The porn industry is a fucking tycoon, it's massive, if anything YOU'RE a fucking good goy for believing it's reasonable to masturbate and watch porn on the daily.

This is so true. I used to be into some really shitty stuff: gore, lolis, even approaching pedophilia, but then I stopped fapping and over the course of a month sex for the sole purpose of reproduction in the missionary position became the most amazing fantasy I could imagine.

Stay strong bro. I recently fucked up a 30 day streak and binged for a week or two. Agh.

>When you masturbate, your body thinks you've just had sex. It diminishes your drive towards finding a real relationship because you end up thinking in your subconscious, "Oh I'm fine I'm getting tons of pussy who cares about women."
This can be good in moderation because being a thirsty fuck makes a man make terrible decisions.

The key, as with many things, is moderation.

Nofappers are like recovered alcoholics; they think that since they can't have alcohol without getting blackout drunk and sneaking liquor into work, nobody else can have a beer once in a while.

your life goals shouldn't be to bust a nut.

constantly sexualizing women each and every day will throw you off when you see one in real life.

start concentrating on your life's mission and not some bitch. They're a dime a dozen.

yeah, WTF?!
did someone think the survey is about druglegalization or something?

i've never even been so much as a pound overweight you limp dick faggot. if you wanna jerk your chicken for pleasure go ahead but why are you lying to everybody else that it's great when you don't have any fucking clue you faggot. the fact you get all these withdraw issues worse than smoking and alcohol proves something ISN'T GOOD. i lived just fine before i got into porn but now suddenly i can't survive 3 days without it? fuck you.

Hehheheheheheeee, good good goy! You are the best goy! Yes, good goy! Don't fap, good goy it's bad for you. Go fuck the std-ridden 9000 lbs sheboon prowling the streets so you can give me jamal all your money good goy.

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It's a matter of dedicating yourself to something and sticking to it. Achieving a goal.

Nofap is pointless, noporn is not. Noporn helps fix your short attention span and a few mental problems resulting from too much dopamine too often for no effort.

You should jerk it once or twice ever few days without porn. This is natural and there is no reason to abstain from wacking it for months, especially if you're an incel and you're not going to be fucking anytime soon.

nofap since 3weeks, edging from time to time cause i'm horny all the time, but i don't want to cum on porn. would fuq everything right now. i'm getting aroused in public by women holding on slightly phallic objects, it's torture. can't even ride bus

> suggest you look at the accounts on...Reddit

Well there goes your credibility Skippy

>This can be good in moderation because being a thirsty fuck makes a man make terrible decisions.
That's true, but it wouldn't really apply to the people doing nofap because not fapping builds self-discipline. By building that as you abstain from PMO, you also build the discipline to make better decisions: especially about relationships. Or so it should work, at least.

Not an argument, go back to your frozen wasteland leaf.

It is in fact an argument. I'm waiting for your counterargument. Not that I expect any from one educated in your ways.

Oh shit, some milk is leaking out!

Not watching porn is a necessary first step, but by cultivating your sexual energy it will empower other areas of your life and give you a strength of character you never thought possible. There's a reason why fighters and athletes for generations have abstained from all forms of sexual release leading up to a major competition. It truly does give you a surge of energy, sharpens focus, improves endurance and enhances strength. It's similar to the rush of power you feel while taking exogenous hormones, steroids. It also does something to your physiology, your energy, pheromones... women can sense it, smell it, feel it, and will be subconsciously attracted to you. Try it for two weeks and see for yourself.

Stronger heart.

At the start of this year I decided to quit porn forever. Three months in and I don't even get the urge anymore.

In terms of strategy, don't say "I'm not gonna fap." You're not craving masturbation, you're craving porn. If you quit porn your rate of masturbation will decrease anyway.

>mfw quit porn and suddenly I can pick up in clubs and currently have a 6' QT English GF
>No longer have Delayed Ejaculation
>Fucking do it mate

If you want motivation, porn is a political weapon makes you a beta cuck.

>GUD GOY HURR
That isn't an argument you fucking mongoloid. Make a claim and add some reasoning. If you genuinely think that nofap means I go off and fuck nasty nigger women, you are sorely mistaken and have fallen victim to the slippery slope fallacy.

The whole issue isn't "no fap only sex," it's "no fap and no sex until marriage," because we've got too many degenerate morons out there fucking and making babies with no desire to care for them.

I didn't fap for about 2 weeks, and by the end of week 1 I was horny all the time, didn't feel like an ubermensch or whatever these cultists will tell you.

Maybe fapping has positive and negatives. It's not like porn taught you to fap. We just fap instinctively.

I didn't fap instinctively, I fapped because I heard about it somewhere and said, "Oh let's try that."

Too many people try to justify it by saying it's natural or totally safe, but you can realize the issue when you try to stop. Go ahead, try to abstain for a week. You can't without deep urges to go back to the old ways. Wanna know why?

Because masturbation and porn is an addiction.

The issue is the dopamine high from watching a lot of different girls. When you bang the same girl the dopamine hit decreases and allows you to remain productive. When you watch porn you are in a sex haze and your body associates the way you consume porn with that dopamine hit. So it's about conditioning. Porn wouldn't be bad if you just watched the same girl from POV, but it's the variety that is the real killer.

Don't worry about having sex with your girl.

you're quite literally a fucking subhuman. you have lower testosterone when you masturbate so somebody who does nofap will have higher testosterone while you're overweight and fap your limp dick so much your estrogen levels are twice as high.

you're just projecting yourself on me. i'm pretty positive you're a low testosterone male who eats like shit so you've got gyno

It's fine if you don't want to read arguments or respond to them, but at least have the decency to not respond instead of spreading salt all over the place. Either that, or respond to the argument. Your choice.

>This is so true. I used to be into some really shitty stuff: gore, lolis, even approaching pedophilia
>On the contrary, abstaining from pornography and masturbation has cured thousands of people of every sexual fetish under the sun.
What's the 1 or 5-year recurrence rate for this and not just some forum posts by people that made the post shortly after stopping? People are far more likely to proudly post about bettering themselves but then when they fall back into old habits remain silent. Go on any weight loss forum and read all the posts by people who logged food journals every day for day for three months and posted proudly how they've lost 15lbs and then proceeded to not log in since 2012.

I know you want to think there's hope, but if you're into tho shit then you've already fucked up your brain beyond salvation. I recommend killing yourself so you don't negatively impact the next generation and/or rape a child.

>No longer have Delayed Ejaculation

what's the problem? just fuck her longer.
not using the deathgrip helps also, don't squeeze your veins

You wanna get cancer? You go ahead and do it

yeah just got off a 5 week no fap, its okay, you don't really think about it much after the first week, and you have a lot more energy. fapping makes you lethargic and shiieeett. like weed pre much without the being high part

>being a thirsty fuck makes a man make terrible decisions.

the solution around that is to give up lust. that doesn't mean you can't have sex, it just means you don't lust after women like you would drool for a rack of ribs. It's difficult, but I've started to do it, and I feel great. Lust is degenerate anyways, thirsty dudes and slutty women are part of the reason why society is so fucked up these days.

Know who has high testosterone? Niggers. Are niggers smart, user? Well?
Fapping temporarily reduces testosterone. Testosterone replenishes, which makes you want to fap. That's how it works. Now calm your tits and for god's sake, wear a bra already.

I think we fap for some instinctive reason. We're keeping our sex drives dormant or something. When society changes men's fapping habits will change as well.

Another thing, this isn't some new trend, developed out of necessity by emasculated neck beards. This has been encouraged in many eastern religions for thousands of years. It's spoken of in Buddhism and tantric practices. The great minds of the twentieth century also encouraged this in their works. There's an entire chapter dedicated to the importance of "the transmutation of sexual energy" in 'Think and Grow Rich'. The hardest part is breaking your addicted mind from the constant dopamine surges (((they've))) trained you to feel like you must have, and avoiding the temptation to give into those addictions with the constant stimuli they throw at you in every aspect of modern life. Start lifting daily, start taking cold showers, go outside and start reading books instead of looking at brain numbing screens all day.

The problem is when due to so much sex you cause vaginal tears and she can't take it anymore and you are left to finish yourself off.

don't fall for this meme

I tried it for 200 days with horrible effects. Before I worked out 5 days a week 180lbs 10%bf, after nofap I lost 15lbs with the same routine and became unmotivated and depressed. Started fucking at least once a week again and everything is back to normal. If you stop fapping/fucking that signals your brain that it's time to die.

actually niggers have higher levels of estrogen you little retard. you must be a nigger yourself actually. white males have higher testosterone which is why they have body hair while niggers have higher estrogen and are hairless.

you're a fucking idiot. you don't have any idea what the fuck you're talking about and just saying it cause you're a little retard who is addicted to fapping so you need to some here and bullshit to convince yourself. your little brain hasn't even thought about this or read anything.

Have your last (You), it's obvious you aren't capable of arguing. I made a point and you never responded or told me your argument when I asked for it. Day of rake will come soon.

>t. chad with reading level of 1st grader
Try that one again bud. I've been clean of masturbating and porn for a year now, no desire for anything other than my girlfriend.

The instinct is dopamine. We're trained to go back to behaviors that release dopamine, and masturbation does this. Unfortunately, we can do it too often and with too much ease, so the risk is far too little for the reward. It skews our tolerance for dopamine and the brain will need more and more to feel the same pleasure. As a result, the little things you enjoy become less important as the dopamine normally released by doing them is dwarfed in comparison to what you usually get from jerking it every day. I noticed this when I stopped fapping a long time ago, games I kept getting bored of suddenly became fun again.

>Nofap is pointless,

yeah except for this idea is already invalidated by studies that show your T levels go up every day you don't wank. They normalize after some point, but there are other factors at play. Wanking reduces testosterone, triiodothyronine, and zinc levels. There is nothing natural about wanking it once or twice every few days, in fact I've seen the stats in a Mantak Chia book that shows the exact opposite, only modern men wank that much, in the past people didn't wank or ejaculate near as often. You're just a pathetic addict.

Testosterone metabolizes into estrogen. Go read a book.

Nofappers, everybody. So desperate to win they not only ignore arguments, but also get butthurt when this is pointed out to them. I sure do wonder where this (((frustration))) comes from. Couldn't be from some underlying (((habit))) I'm sure.

People didn't used to jerk off that much and people have never lived as long or grown as tall as now.

The testosterone peaks after 7 days but remains at levels 25% higher than baseline thereafter.

why do people shill against nofap? i know for a fact none of that happened to you. do you feel a need to justify your own degeneracy by projecting your insecurities onto others? by pulling everyone else around down to your level so no one can laugh at you? ive seen this a lot in no fap threads, it might even be one of the tennets of shariablue to shill no fap threads. if that's the case..

wrong, after 3weeks it starts to affect testosterone levels

based on fullshit fee-fees rather than science.

>why are people angry that retarded threads obviously made by (((them))) designed to con people into fucking themselves over pop up on a board completely irrelevant to their topic absolutely constantly?

>implying fetishes need to be cured
what a fucking normie

correlation doesn't equal causation, you fucking retard.

Because (((they))) want you to believe fapping is safe and normal.

That's a product of our society's success, not fapping. We're capable of growing more than our ancestors because, for the first time ever, we have enough food that overeating is actually a MAJOR health concern.