Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
Do you honestly believe this?
Joshua Wood
fuck off with your commie shit faggot
Juan Price
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Hudson Campbell
Yes.
Jaxon Brown
>helicopters are asleep
Parker Cruz
What is your view on purges of enemies?
Easton Bailey
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Grayson Walker
The failures of communism are so bad they can't even be exaggerated
Juan Perez
>communist >uses the flag of the USSR EVERY.FUCKING.TIME
You want to be governed by the supreme soviet in moscow you fucking dolt? Make your own flag with a tomato or some shit on it you profligate fuck.
Jonathan Johnson
i was born rich. my parents make about $800,000 USD a year. not super rich, but not too bad. why should i ever support communism?
Logan Hall
Great fucking post!
James Lopez
Wow, that's not very much spam for a lefty thread on Sup Forums. Cool, means we can debate so I'll start. Leninism isn't advanced Marxism but rather authoritarian social democracy under a state-cucked non-functioning capitalism.
Logan Cox
Happy 28th March, commie filth.
Dylan Bennett
Because being a total failure hurts her fee fees. Communism is the expression of jealousy, she'd rather everyone (including herself) be in an equally worse situation than accept that her failings are entirely her own making. Ironically, people like her are usually the first to be shot or sent to the gulag.
Dylan Jenkins
The state does not exist all by itself. It I an instrument of class rule, born from class struggle. It cannot survive classes.
Gabriel Jackson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Isaac Bailey
quads of quality remember that marx references himself to prove his concepts lol
Julian Bell
You seem to confuse Lenin with Stalin.
Parker Cook
Leninism (and its variants) is the only realistic way to implement something approaching Marxism. Ultimately, the underlying broken capitalism is fosters is just an expression of a need for the people to eventually return to capitalism and improved standards of living. This is because Marxism completely ignores the inherent nature of man while Leninism is realistic about it while still failing to grasp how shitty it makes things.
Joshua Sullivan
last thread was a failure but thankfully that was not a TRUE communism general.
Xavier Allen
you would be gulaged so hard
Zachary Cox
Marx was autistic, his inability to understand normal humans made him unable to understand the totally unsound foundations his principles were built upon.
Adam Mitchell
This is the super special thread that will definitely work this time (unless it doesn't, in which case evil capitalist-supporting traitors destroyed the glorious dream of the people as ordered by their corporate masters).
Brandon Thompson
Because it's the good thing to do. But yeah, your immediate interests command you not to support communism.
Carson Powell
>good >condemning millions to starvation and misery
Seizing the means of production is like dynamiting an apple tree because you're too lazy to build or buy a ladder. You get a quick payoff but it fucks you in the long term.
Andrew Hernandez
Remember to Sage and hide all slide threads
Gavin Lewis
>I don't know what communism is.
Justin Price
OP is a massive faggot His dick is tinier than a newborn maggot He really thought he was being funny clever and witty But in actuality his post was just very shitty
The only other thing his mouth spills out that dumb Are impossibility large quantities of nigger cum He wishes he had a woman between his knees but instead he can only jack off to dick-girl fantasies
the only action he'll ever get is a one-way with his hand infact his entire birth wasn't even planned His room is full of dragon-dildos and weeaboo-merch he is even more pathetic than Anthony Birch
the last time he saw a real vagina was when he was born the last time moon-man inside job his mom her cervix was torn. O look OP's mom is already knocking on my door and her gaping cunt is begging for more
so before i go i want you all to have a nice day and remind everyone in this thread that op is fucking gay 'kkkay 'kkkay 'kkkay'
Considering they're advocating it, I don't think the 'communists' here know what communism is.
Angel Powell
Wake me up when you can cite an example of communism that worked.
Joseph Jenkins
Advocating what? The seizing of the means of production? This is part of the communist programme but this no end goal. Seizing the means of production is communist only insofar it allows the proletariat to socialise production altogether.
Ethan Johnson
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Tyler Wilson
I see, at what stage do you replace the proletariat with robotic doppelgangers or do you intend to invent a modified lobotomy that somehow doesn't kill motivation?
Xavier Powell
>Money is the only motivation for work … is what you imply, right?
Jason Williams
OP these people voted for a deranged B-list television personality solely because he was rich and promised to get rid of the evil brown people. They won't listen to you. They are blinded by pure ideology and spooks such as social status and race to vote against their interests and keep the capitalist pigs in power. They were played by the neoliberal establishment who used them as chesspieces. They were useful idiots of the 1% class due to falling for the racial identity politic us vs. them mentality and splitting the proletariat into warring factions. Sad!
Sebastian White
Not at all, you can also motivate people by threatening to send their entire family to the gulag or mismanaging production so appallingly that fresh fruit and good wine become luxuries only afforded to those at the highest levels of government and defense engineering.
Seriously, the average American McDonalds worker had more purchasing power than a top Soviet nuclear scientist, whose primary motivators were what an American of the day would have considered basic groceries and the opportunity to reside in a home where they had a bedroom to themselves.
Eli Anderson
Socialist policies are in every civilized country.
>actually sane and reasonable comment on Sup Forums What is happening?
Lincoln Lewis
COMMUNISM DOES NOT WORK
Kevin Bell
Reminder that Marx was very possibly autistic. He didn't grasp the real concepts behind any of the people that influenced him ie Hegel, Proudhon, ect and even goes so far as to directly contradict the foundations of those concepts, as with dialectical materialism
Zachary Perry
Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING is better than your fairy tale ideology led always by hypocrites, failures, immoral, lazy, collectivist scum who hide behind noble phrases as you slaughter the very same class you claim to champion.
Even war, even plague is better than communism, because you can rebuild out of those.
Noah Torres
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Matthew James
This thread is now being defended by Antifa.
We will fucking kill anyone who isn't a communist.
Ethan Hill
I know, killing poor and working class is what communist do.
Luke Cook
This triggers the Sup Forumsack. Millions if Sup Forumsacks were murdered in your facist(left) and communist(left) ways. Sup Forumsacks just want ebola chan alive again.
Jackson Brown
>What is anecdotal evidence and the tiniest imaginable sample space?
Woah, don't try and contradict this one old man, historians who know what actually happened!
Nicholas Thomas
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Henry Scott
Word of a communist is even lesser than that of a nazi. Shove your propaganda up your upper class ass.
Jace Moore
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Jacob Diaz
Just read it comrade.
Luke Martinez
comrade, have you considered emmigration and immigration as a factor in population growth?
Evan Cooper
Just more weasel words, more excuses. I have heard all that communists have to say decades ago. You think you are in any way different from them? You are like bad deja vu.
Jeremiah Robinson
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Henry Butler
>comrade.
And stop insulting me you scum, I was blue collar my whole life, I am not any 'comrade'
Lincoln Thompson
Failed ideology general. Always collapses or goes back to capitalism like China and Vietnam, then becomes far better off.
Josiah Scott
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David Moore
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Sebastian Thompson
Assuming you don't privately own means of production you belong to the working class comrade, if you refuse and are unlikely to ever join the class war then you are part of the lumpenproletariat.
Christian Powell
>if you refuse and are unlikely to ever join the class war then you are part of the lumpenproletariat. A supposedly classless political system assigns a unique label to people of no value to their cause. Really fires the neurons.
Adam Lewis
To get most people to voluntarily work they will need some sort of compensation for it. If the choice is between work and no work but the outcome is the same, people will choose no work every time.
>mfw a commie calls someone a useful idiot
Jace Price
Communists get past this by saying autism is just ableist propaganda
Joseph Rogers
>I want to believe Not an argument, Sup Forums is not your personal blog
>read/watch, I wont tell you why and what it is, because I don't actually have arguments or points to make and its just the same old dead beaten worthless commie bullshit and just want attention for my failed ideology No, Not an argument
>according to this wittness opinions talking about circumstantial evidence Not an argument by communist standards
>Im not presenting any argument, math or documents in my disinfographic but swear my armchair speculation debunks actually evident facts and this is not a dead beaten horse Im feigning ignorance over again to give my failed ideology attention Not an argument
>come on give this dead beaten failed ideology attention No, Not an argument
>my arbitrary failed ideology labels matter No, Not an argument
Michael Clark
If communism becomes the dominant ideology, it will doom humanity, and here's why:
>society becomes dominated by the low-tier plebs >all they want is candy and circuses >human population continues to soar out of control >all the resources are devoted to helping poor retards get free shit and breed more >space exploration neglected because 20 billion niggers don't give a shit about space >human race stays on Earth and eats all the resources until we reach the fuel threshold and go extinct
The only way to preserve humanity is to have a government that is a totalitarian, technocratic, dictatorship that favors the elites and opposes egalitarianism. The leaders of this society would mostly be made of high-IQ whites and east-Asians. They would basically force the plebs into creating space colonies; and perhaps even sterilizing or genociding many of the niggers if necessary.
Egalitarianism = death by entropy.
Isaiah Powell
The lumpenproles of today are brown people dude. Mass immigration destroys any minute chance there was of gommies ever seizing power
Jackson Gomez
Not to mention that they decrease the value of native white workers.
Globalist liberal leftists are literally shitting on the Western "working class".
Jaxson Johnson
Stock brokers, lawyers, investment bankers, actors, athletes, etc don't own the means of production does that make them working class? If not, you need a new definition of working class.
Nicholas Brown
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Connor Campbell
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Matthew Hall
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Jason Baker
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Ryan Reyes
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Ryan Evans
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Aaron Roberts
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Christopher Jenkins
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John Roberts
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Mason Baker
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William Rodriguez
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Zachary Watson
>posts more commie shit
Ryan Ramirez
MUERETE HIJO DE LA GRAN PUTA CABRÓN DE MIERDA
Nicholas Murphy
sage
Kayden Stewart
inb4 his standard 'undialectical' reply.
Nicholas Thomas
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Leo Jones
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Levi Mitchell
The petite bourgeoisie is economically distinct from the proletariat and the lumpenproletariat social-class strata who rely entirely on the sale of their labor-power for survival; and also are distinct from the capitalist class haute bourgeoisie (high bourgeoisie) who own the means of production, and thus can buy the labor-power of the proletariat and lumpenproletariat to work the means of production. Though the petite bourgeoisie can buy the labor of others, they typically work alongside their employees, unlike the haute bourgeoisie.
Ethan Lee
>muh arbitrary made up commie semantic bullshit that serves no purpose outside my dead beaten failed ideology matter, forced bump before archive Not an argument.
Luke Cruz
Don't be infantile.
Camden Richardson
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Carter Perry
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Ian Gutierrez
>surplus value AKA time travel math inconsistently applied
