/seg/ - Serbian Election General

A thread for discussion about Serbian politics and the upcoming election

> Date

2 April 2017

> Details
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_presidential_election,_2017

> Quick Rundown (from what I can tell)

Aleksander Vucic - massively the front-runner, leading by between 35 and 45% in every poll. Seems fairly pro-European.

Sasa Jankovic - Can't tell much about him, seems to dislike Kosovo.

Vojislav Seselj - Seems based and possibly /ourguy/. Hard Eurosceptic, anti-Islam, by the sounds of things.

Vuk Jeremic - No idea how good he is, but he seems to have 0 chance.

Bosko Obradovic - Once again, maybe /ourguy/. Anti-Islam, pro-Russia and possibly in support of pan-Slavism.

Ljubiša Preletačević - > a comedian

Aleksandar Popović - acceptable but not /ourguy/ material.

If Serbs have any comments about changes that need to be made to the OP, please do not hesitate.

Other urls found in this thread:

foxnews.com/world/2017/03/28/kosovo-allows-serb-premier-visit-ahead-election.html
balkaninsight.com/en/article/putin-wishes-vucic-luck-in-serbian-presidential-election-03-27-2017
huffingtonpost.com/entry/serbian-presidential-election-next-battle-in-war-to_us_58da6bfae4b04f2f079272f7
youtube.com/watch?v=FcLdW7K86Gg
youtube.com/watch?v=jrapH2_IdXI
youtube.com/watch?v=05lRAUtCk_A
balkaninsight.com/en/article/dozen-foreign-observers-to-monitor-serbian-elections-03-28-2017
youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

Some articles:

foxnews.com/world/2017/03/28/kosovo-allows-serb-premier-visit-ahead-election.html

balkaninsight.com/en/article/putin-wishes-vucic-luck-in-serbian-presidential-election-03-27-2017

huffingtonpost.com/entry/serbian-presidential-election-next-battle-in-war-to_us_58da6bfae4b04f2f079272f7

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Bosko ftw

Aleksandar Nobody can stop me to talk to russians Vucic
Sasa Jankovic ...An ombudsman or public advocate is an official, usually appointed by the government or by parliament, but with a significant degree of independence, who is charged with representing the interests of the public by investigating and addressing complaints of maladministration or a violation of rights...controled oposition?
Vojislav Seselj...yea what op said and the biggest troll
Vuk Jeremic... trying to copy paste Vojislav Seselj but fails miserably ...a socialist in his heart
Bosko Obradovic nop he will never be our guy he was once but he got cucked by democratic party aka hilly type of party
Ljubiša Preletačević has a chance to be number 2

Tell us more about Bosko.

Are you supporting Seselj?

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you are retarded and probably a kid too

>Tell us more about Bosko.
basically what you said, i would like to add that he's anti-lgbt too, advocating family and traditional values

seselj falls now into controlled opposition, he got cucked by vucic and is now his puppet, sadly

How can you prove that stuff about Seselj?

Plus, will Vucic win for sure? It looks that way.

Beli literally has A E S T H E T I C campaign video

youtube.com/watch?v=FcLdW7K86Gg

>How can you prove that stuff about Seselj?
many things are pointing towards that. he secured his kids to work in government institutions thanks to vucic, which in return he doesn't spit on him anymore and he even defends his brother who is involved in numerous mafia scandals...

>Plus, will Vucic win for sure? It looks that way.
unfortunately, he has big chance to win again, and then we will get doomed with him in further years

Explain this cuckoldry serbs

Nice to see that we even have a /ourguy/. Some of you Eastern European countries depress me.

Bulgaria a few weeks ago was depressing as fuck.

Sad. Seselj's party seems based as fuck.

Which one is pro-Albanian? Let's support that one

Seselj and Vucic are basicly teacher and student Seselj tought Vucic everything what he knows about manipulation and trickery.His probably with Vucic beceause he knows his time is coming and soon will kick the bucket so his with Vucic now to get some quick money for his family.

>Aleksander Vucic
a converted croatian and possibly a son of an albanian

>Sasa Jankovic
Vojvodinian

>Vojislav Seselj
ultranationalist serb with croatian surname, top meme guy

>Bosko Obradovic
some meme guy btfo'd by based Čanak

>Aleksandar Popović
montenigger surname

God's your nation is a meme, lmao

>a few weeks ago
you mean a few days ago?

>Sad. Seselj's party seems based as fuck.
yeah, i voted for him in the last parliamentary elections two years ago when he came back from hague and i feel dumb now for doing such thing, fuck him and his party

fuck you cunt faggots, i agree with most Sup Forums points of view but Seselj will never ever like ever be /my guy/. That guy is literally ideologist behind Greater Serbia project, failed project that costed about 200k lives, across Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, more than triple of that displaced, and made sure hatred in these areas will continue for decades to come. If it werent for him and his imagniary borders, maybe Yugoslavia would dissolute peacefully. Fuck Seselj and every single one of his supporters. I dont have anything against normal, chilling Serbs but Seselj's supporters are literally cancer

I like Seselj because he's a living proof how meme serbian nation is. His family literally converted from catholicism to orthodoxy during ottoman occupation

youtube.com/watch?v=jrapH2_IdXI

I always find it funny when Croats vote for someone who is anti-Serb and find it OK,but when Serbs vote for someone who is anti-Croat it'everybody losses their minds.But don't worry I'll be voting for Bosko Obradovic but in second round Seselj

Is it likely that there will be a second round?

Very humorous statement since we didnt vote someone like that since.. oh wait, ever. And you literally have a chetnik in charge

>Seselj
>anti-islam by the sounds of things
Where in heavens name did you get that idea from...

Who? Kolinda? She is right but nowhere openly spoke against Serbs, unlike Seselj who approved burning of i dont know how many croatian flags along the EU and NATO ones?

Also i didnt vote for Marijana Petir in EU elections, nor Ruza Tomasic, nor Vladimir Tepes's HSP nor any other confirmed Serbhaters. Not all of us are neo-Ustasas or something

>Aleksandar Vucic
>chetnik
pick one and only one
If you seriusly put Chetniks with Vucic then you don't know who Chetniks really are.
There always is a second round i'll be voting anyone but Vucic,hell even the US backed NATO plant Jeremic

I was reffering to Nikolić.

Is there still a second round if one candidate gets more than 50% of the vote?

Thats pretty dank, however i kinda think he's just not serious enough

>Nikolic
that person is literal grave digger who cooks rakia in his home village whille his wife steal thousands for her clothes
lower because even Vucic can't get 50% off the vote,but who knows he is offering prisinors shorter sentences who ever votes for him

>he's just not serious enough
>is a joke candidate

wat

>grave digger
I though he rooted for Rad?

He said he was going to become serious and actually try to become president.
Its bad that he's actually a joke candidate cause those votes for him could have went to Bosko or literally anybody else but Vucic. He's dividing the vote making it easier for the eternal peder.

Beli>Radulovic>Jankovic>>>>>>>ostali

>could have went to Bosko
wew, no

Bosko,Sasa, Seselj idgaf just not Vucic
I havent been paying attention to this election so i cant tell who is and isnt a shill.
My would've voted for Milan

based bosko >>>> anyone else tbqh

No way his father is that albanian guy. He looks too masculine to have spawned a pussylips beta like Vucuckovic. I'm sure that fagg gets drunk with one shot of rakija. *Muh serbia stronk we send trains.* Sad.

>that person is literal grave digger who cooks rakia in his home village whille his wife steal thousands for her clothes
Nigger my point is that he's a chetnik and that serbian people voted for him. That's the hole point of this conversation

Im voting for Jankovic, my parents for Beli, my bro doesn't know between Jankovic or Obradovic, his and my wife don't care about the election.

The point is he is not a Chetnik
youtube.com/watch?v=05lRAUtCk_A

Who is the SJW party in your country guys. We had literally a party named Bulgaria YES, but they didn't get into parliament, because they other right-wing parties didn't want them.

projecting so hard on me

lol WE ARE SERBS AND SHIT

Just fuck my shit up
There's a reason we call him a FAGGOT

A was thinking about Jankovic too, but some people said he was a Soros Shill

bosko isn't perfect but he's better option than jankovic

dobra fora

we have a meme party it's canditate is called Beli
youtube.com/watch?v=FcLdW7K86Gg

beli doesn't have a political party...

SARMU PROBO NISI !!! (SPN)

No /ourguys/, but Bosko is aight.Vucic will win i n a land-slide and they're preparing to steal some votes just in case
anyways.
Jeremic is the only one who can unite thr entire spectrum vs Vucic, however libshits are pushing Jankovic who is a SJW icon and can't get right votes.

He made it last year and somehow got over 10k signatures,so he kinda has a party.

stop being unfunny cunts and fuck beli

as long Bosko gets 5% I'm fine.

>Jankovic
>SJW
A right wing SJW
He himself proclaimed he was right wing and anti multiculti

Not my fault that his party is named that
And he is funny you autistic fuck
Go laugh to your meme compilations in your moms basement

no he didn't.and it's not funny, it's autistic.his stupidity is so obvious it is sad, he is capable of saying like 3 words.

>A right wing SJW
>He himself proclaimed he was right wing and anti multiculti
bullshit, he's a centrist with tendencies to the left

Ive seen him in an interview the other day.
He said he leans right and he was a human rights activist.
If all the normies like him, he's on shitshows like GrandTV, then i gotta say he is not an autist. Or if he is then it doesnt matter, because he is popular.

>he said

i can also say that i'm a unicorn

this pretty much.
beli is literally the definition of the unfunny normie who thinks he is the master of humor while not realizing all the levels above him.

I don't know, Jankovic seems to be the most decent candidate. Based on what i've seen, he is really determined to change something in this shithole. His biggest problem in campaign is his lack of charisma, and support that he's getting from anti-serb faggot organisations

whatever floats ur boat, im going to bed

underrated tbqh

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1. Saša Janković, liberal, supported by libtards and SJWs from downtown Belgrade

2. Vuk Jeremić, centre-right, served at UN, may be legit

3. Miroslav Parović, Vucic's candidate

4. Saša Radulović, citizen option, not a bad guy, maybe most classical liberal, best economy plan perhaps

5. Luka Maksimović, meme candidate

6. Aleksandar Vučić, ultimate ruler, Brussels and EU shill. Clinton's friend, traitor

7. Boško Obradović, /ourguy/ , pro traditionalist family, right wing, anti lgbt propaganda

8. Vojislav Šešelj, /ourguy/ but may be exposed. Greater Sebia proponent

9. Aleksandar Popović, can be our guy, lite version

10. Milan Stamatović, was mayor in western Serbia, good family guy, is against Vucic

11. Nenad Čanak, separatist village idiot from Vojvodina


If Vucic gathers over 50% there will be no second round. Watch out for numbers 2, 1. And maybe no 5 (Beli Preletacevic google this) memes his way to second round.

Litteraly anyone is better than Vucic.

Seselj isn't /ourguy/. Fat bastard ia openly shilling for Vucic.

you betty good described them, except seselj, he's definitely exposed and isn't /ourguy/ a long time ago

also sasa radulovic is a thirsty autocrat who repeats his crap agenda like a broken record hoping it would gain some traction

also redpill me about aleksandar popovic, who the fuck is he and from where he suddenly popped out?

So what's our goal? To have Vucic get less than 50% so that maybe people will vote against him in the runoff?

>To have Vucic get less than 50% so that maybe people will vote against him in the runoff?
exactly, that's the most realistic scenario which could be achieved

In a 1v1 runoff election, people tend to vote against those they dislike as opposed to for those that they prefer, out of necessity.

That's the only solution. But the amount of people in his political party (SNS) is insane-some estimate between 500-800000 people (Serbia has 6,5 million population). 99% of those people don't support Vucics ideology, because he doesn't have any. They're only there for the personal gains or becausw of the sheer survival.

that's not the problem m8, the bigger problem is the turnout

on the last elections less than half of the population voted

i'm wrong about the last statement, 53% of population voted, which was still not enough to beat SNS
i think if at least turnout be at 80% we could manage to defeat vucic

Why is turnout so low?

Obradovic is a joke. His plan of paying full time wages to mothers of 3 children can only backfire. It's child level policy.

because people stopped caring
we always elected the worst parties for nearly two decades while being naive and listening and believing to their false promises and lies. but there was no serious party for that same amount of time, except maybe now but i think it's too late. people should be woken up first, because we already gave up any hopes that it would be any better in the future

what's wrong with that exactly? look at our demographics, our nation is slowly dying.

Who is gonna pay for it? What tax and what agency gets to handle the money in this corrupt shithole?
Also how long until every gipsy family starts claiming benefits.

Also I'm not paying for sone retarded cunt to shit out 3 under 80 IQ points wastes of air for demofraphics sakes.

>Who is gonna pay for it? What tax and what agency gets to handle the money in this corrupt shithole?
you're talking like that was his main concern. it isn't, he would probably not be that dump to impose that policy immediately instead of fixing economy first

>Also how long until every gipsy family starts claiming benefits.
i don't think he would allow gypsies anything, everyone's perfectly aware of them

>Also I'm not paying for sone retarded cunt to shit out 3 under 80 IQ points wastes of air for demofraphics sakes.
the average age now in serbia is 42. think about that before spewing out such bullshit.

I just hope you fuckers don't vote in some cuck that wants to join NATO. You know the people that bombed you and are going to take away Kosovo.

well if we elect vucic again, we would eventually join NATO with him

we can only hope that the decision fall by referendum not by his will

with referendum 90% would vote for NO

balkaninsight.com/en/article/putin-wishes-vucic-luck-in-serbian-presidential-election-03-27-2017

balkaninsight.com/en/article/dozen-foreign-observers-to-monitor-serbian-elections-03-28-2017

These are not a good pairing.

you think?

What sort of provision is going to stop the gipsyies or for that matter muslims in the sandzak are or Albanians that already have 3+ children from directly benefiting from this?
Youre taxing the productive elements of society that can't afford to have 3 children to somehow return those funds to them and cover the overhead of unproductice people and the cost of government bodies organizing all of this, so they can now somehow afford to have that many children. It's a bad plan either way I don't care how "fixed" the economy is.

>I don't care how "fixed" the economy is.
exactly, your "caring" for your nation shows how much you're ignorant

youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

We must keep Vucic out, lads.

I care for the nation you stupid fuck. I'm sick of social programs disguised with well intentions lining the pockets of politicians payed by the already empoverished working class.
The plan is stupid and would lose the hard earned money of your countrymen you dense cunt. How about you do your nation a favour and start thinking instead of virtue signaling?

>I care for the nation you stupid fuck
okay then, show the better plan, because in 50 years we're going to extinct

>I'm sick of social programs disguised with well intentions lining the pockets of politicians payed by the already empoverished working class. The plan is stupid and would lose the hard earned money of your countrymen you dense cunt.
who said that all politicians are corrupted? you're a typical redneck serb, being constantly bitter towards politics and the people who lead them and constantly finding some retarded reasons for not doing any changes. that's why we got into this situation in the first place.

>How about you do your nation a favour and start thinking instead of virtue signaling?
i ask you the same

Well a better plan would be removing VAT from baby goods like diapers. Secondly you could lower taxes for families that have more children, hell you could do it based on how many children they have and effectively rise the ammount a family with children has at the end of the month by quite a margin. The best part is, if done that way the government does not have to be involved with handling any of the money so there is no processing and redistribution and taxing and corruption fees on that side. But then there lies the problem. I'm just some idiot online and can come up with this, I find it hard to believe that none of them can sit and think for 5 minutes about their plan. Almost like it would be preffered if the money went directly trough the government, with them at the head ofc.

As far as all politicians being corrupt, what can I tell you? Governments change but the same people profit over and over. The system is corrupt and open to malice and people are corruptable by power. Time and time again, watch it for long enough and you will see it repeat.

>calling me a redneck.

>Well a better plan would be removing VAT from baby goods like diapers. Secondly you could lower taxes for families that have more children, hell you could do it based on how many children they have and effectively rise the ammount a family with children has at the end of the month by quite a margin.
and then again you would have problem with gypsies and muslims. how exactly you think you solved the problem better than it was? it's literally the same fucking shit. when you lower taxes somewhere you must balance it by increasing it on the other place.

>As far as all politicians being corrupt, what can I tell you? Governments change but the same people profit over and over. The system is corrupt and open to malice and people are corruptable by power. Time and time again, watch it for long enough and you will see it repeat.
this is what i'm talking about, everyone lost the hope that it would be better in the future, and with such thinking we're not going to exist in 50 years or so

i called you a redneck because that's exactly how they think - when politics are brought to the table, they just talk how system is shit and who's more corrupt, which ultimately leads to the same pessimistic conclusion - that we're doomed and there's nothing which can save us. but ironically they somehow think they care about their nation and country, yet they're doing absolutely nothing to make the situation better.

but whatever floats your boat

If a gipsy or muslim family has income and pays taxes and buys goods then they are not a fucking problem. What you solve is the problem of people who produce nothing lining up for a government check payed by people producing value. Instead you allow productive people to keep more of their paycheck and pay less for baby goods for which there is already a sales tax. It is better because it cuts the people just making children for the money from the picture which would ultimately lower the cost of the plan.

Yes you would have to raise taxes elsewhere.
It's a stupid plan, but it's a much better stupid plan than the proposed stupid plan which is exactly what I've been saying in the first place about the stupid plan.

And you can call me every name in the book but you haven't answered any of the criticisms, and you likely can't. Until you are able to provide the answers you should refrain from making plans of redistributing peoples wealth willy nilly.

vote Ljubisha

>And you can call me every name in the book but you haven't answered any of the criticisms, and you likely can't.
and you're constantly ignoring the fact that we, as the nation, will be replaced by that same gypsies and muslims most likely during our lifetimes if the situation doesn't change

do you still think of that plan as "stupid", really? i can't believe who these days considers himself as a patriot and yet talks like this...

I don't think elections will change anything in the Balkans you people are doomed to being developing economies in perpetuity. Look at the bright side though, no rapefugees

Guys.

Seselj is definitely not /ourguy/. He is shilling for Vucic since he came back from Hague, probably out of fear of being sent back.

Huge disappointment. All the stuff he said before pretty much is irrelevant as he is a huge failiure now.

We are beyond salvation in any case.

After looking at our lineup here, Sup Forums does not have /ourguy/ here.

Relatively based are Popovic, Bosko and Jeremic to some extent.

Others are just pretty much a subversion.

also this is probably the most precise summary of the situation.

Other Serb posters are probably retarded kids.