Redpill me on common core. Is it another tactic by (((them))) to fuck over white kids?

Redpill me on common core. Is it another tactic by (((them))) to fuck over white kids?

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Legitimately yes. It's a stupid, worthless method to complicate math for no reason other than to hold back the smart kids with pointless riddles so the idiots can catch up.

We need standardized mandatory public schooling but not common core. Common core has very little devoted to health, fitness, community, and idealism. Hitler had the right idea on the topic of education and youth development.

wrong

The math portion isn't bad and even has the correct idea, despite what Sup Forums will tell you

Formerly, math just taught kids quick was to do common arithmetic - an almost useless skill now that we have calculators. Common core math is about getting kids to think about numbers in various different ways, a much more valuable skill for high-level mathematics

The english portion is legit full of propaganda though. People just get distracted by the unusual math

t.engineer

Yes this is so useful. Really gets my noodle boiling. Using this method I can surely send humanity to distant galaxies

>t. common core shill

Oh man I can't wait until the next generation of engineers raised purely on common core can create teleportation or fully immersive AI.

Absolutely. GamerGate dug up MOUNTAINS of redpills on common core and it's connections to bill gates and SJW shit in video games.

Also the creator of common core, a Jew, went on the record saying it's "designed to end white privilege"

There's a reason Trump hates it and appointed Betsy devos to nuke it at all costs (and why all the establishment cucks opposed her unilaterally)

I'm fucking terrible at math and this is just a nightmare. I can't imagine how much worse I'd be with shit like this. Wtf?

You couldn't send humans to distant galaxies with the old method of doing math either dummy, like I said it's focused on teaching kids different ways to think about numbers, and that flexibility and comfort about different ways to handle numbers is much more valuable than memorizing multiplication tables. The point isn't just "Here, get the correct answer as quickly as possible" (because if it were, we could just hand the kids a fucking calculator and teach them how to punch in the numbers), the point is to introduce them to different ways to visualize what they're working with (a very helpful skill to have in calculus)

At a catholic school my 10 year old brother has been taught that whites are privileged and indebted to non whites, need to be sorry for being white, and that gender is a social construct. Fuck

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> call the english portion propaganda
> "H-HE MUST BE A SHILL"

Neither of these things are even all that complicated to understand, jesus christ guys come on

One's just teaching kids ways to do addition by grouping things into tens, and the other is just teaching ways to quickly check in your head whether an answer you arrived at is in the right ballpark. Why are you acting like this is some crazy off-the-wall madness

>29% margin of error
>reasonable

How the fuck is this useful??

26+17 took me all of two seconds to add up in my brain 'the old way'

It's needlessly complicated. The only people shilling for common core have their kids in private schools where common core isn't taught. It's made to make the average person dumber

This is autismo

this is ALSO not that fucking unusual lol

It's just easier to add large numbers in increments of ten in your head, so it's just teaching a REALLY SIMPLE method for turning arithmetic problems into adding by increments of ten

> omg muh math minor it's too hard to understand

this person is legit retarded then

It's not that they're complicated to understand, they needlessly complicate the operation

Replacing a tire with a butter knife isn't a complicated concept but the application of using said butter knife to fix said tire isn't nearly as effective as using a tire iron

Whole education system is just a jobs program for idiots who have a work ethic but can't do anything else. If education happens in it, it's an accident, they didn't actually intend for it to happen.

Why you keep shilling for a retarded and needlessly system as common core?

Kys slowly

>when a goykid is close to breaking his conditioning

It's complicated because teaching kids how to do quick arithmetic is pointless because fucking calculators can do that shit faster than any human possibly could

The idea isn't "Just teach them to memorize multiplication tables and do math really really quick" - which was the old system that also sucked - the idea is to show them various ways to do the problem, so math and numbers don't appear as this rigid memorized series of computational shortcuts, but rather the flexibility to think of numbers in various ways

Like I said, if all you want kids to do is to be able to do simple math equations quickly, just give them a class where they learn how to punch numbers into a calculator. Why teach them subtraction by hand? It's needlessly complicated, just have them punch that shit into a machine

>jesus christ guys this isnt complicated
Are you proud that you can understand math for toddlers? Come on, now.

No it's not. It's meant to commodity education and make K12 education easier to privatize. The CC requires the NCLB to exist.

>It's a stupid, worthless method to complicate math

It doesn't, go back the textbook you used in elementary school, CC materials aren't too dissimilar from materials made after the mid 80s, and are indistinguishable from post NCLB ones.

t. Retarded adult

If you don't estimate by tens already you are probably a moron or a liar.

The one on the left is how I was raised, and the one on the right is the one the jews are shilling to the masses to make them dumber

If all you want to do is teach kids quick arithmetic, teaching anything beyond punching numbers into a calculator is needlessly complicated

The reason to teach kids to do these things by hand or in their head isn't to just get them to arrive at the answer as quickly as possible, it's to give them the ability to think about mathematics

The old system was designed for the days when human calculators were necessary, and thus focused on rigid memorization and rules that just let you arrive at the answer as quickly as possible. Those skills are literally pointless nowadays. Showing kids various, and sometimes exotic, ways of doing these equations is much more beneficial since it teaches them that there are lots of ways you can think about numbers

> but he must be a SHILL

the english portion like I said is total propaganda. They attached the english portion to legit good ideas about how to teach math in order to get it shoved through

tldr: 26+17 = 30+13

It's basically what people who do a lot of head arithmetic start doing naturally anyway. If not by this method, it's going to be something similar that will help them do the math more quickly and/or less prone to errors.

I don't get why you would have to force this though. Let students develop their own method they feel comfortable with.

>Absolutely. GamerGate dug up MOUNTAINS of redpills on common core and it's connections to bill gates and SJW shit in video games.

hey retard, SJW shit has been in our schools since the mid 50s, and it became law in 1964. If anything the CC rolls most of it back because it's existence causes schools to focus all resources on just math and ELA subjects, as opposed to a broader history or civics study (which is obviously slanted in favor of SJWism).

>Also the creator of common core, a Jew, went on the record saying it's "designed to end white privilege"

And he's a liar, because he's a Jew. All the CC does, to students, is gameify education. This immediately causes white students to have a major advantage as their parents typically have more money for tutoring and other forms of support. This is why most liberals loathe the CC, but they can't do fucking shit about it due to the NCLB.

Education is an industry and the CC is a method for textbook publishers to make more money. It directly enables white privilege because white people have more money than niggers. This is especially true in states that chose a voucher system, which cause niggers to be isolated in low preforming schools which due to the NCLB have their funding cut, causing their situation to get much worse.

> "OMG LOOK AT THIS SCREENSHOT THIS SHIT IS SO WEIRD AND EXOTIC AND COMPLICATED"
> "It's not that complicated"
> "LOL R U PROUD U CAN UNDERSTAND MATH FOR CHILDREN"

Come on, now

>think about what they're doing rather than get the right answer

youtube.com/watch?v=UIKGV2cTgqA

Wow, you got a degree in engineering and you think you know shit about child development or teaching.

Listen, I know that the basis of common core seems solid to a person with a degree. You're turning 18+7 into 20+5. That's how I do math.

But I started doing it like that around 14 yo. I'm pretty confident a child just beginning to learn the basics of math isn't going to be able to grasp onto a concept like that.

Disregard this fagget cocksucker, OP. CC is in place to diminish the ability to problem solve. Coupled with indoctrination methods, whole crops of useless idiots are being engineered. Anon5 did a KB thread devoted to common core- I suggest you start there.
Then, read this:freedomworks.org/content/battle-against-common-core-standards

>math is flexible
Just off yourself.

The one on the left is what you remember from middle school, the one on the right is what elementary school students have been taught since the mid 90s. Again, go back to your original K1-5 textbooks and you will see for yourself.

Then again you're posting a prerendered bait image, and not actual content from a CC compliant book so your post belongs in the garbage.

>hold back the smart kids with pointless riddles
Pointless riddles is the very essence of mathematics for smart kids.

Why would you do that instead of using the actual number? Are you trolling? Estimating is for retards

>Old math is a waste of time because calculators exist

this is such a fucking FACILE stupid idiotic retarded argument. Every time. Complicated math is a lot like Mannerism; you can't think critically or conceptually about a thing if you don't begin with an analytical base of knowledge. You learn arithmetic without a calculator first so that you INTUIT THE MOST BASIC FUNDAMENTALS OF MATHEMATICS -and then- with your -built in understanding of the nature of mathematics- can start doing complicated things with mathematics conceptually, like the whole Heisenberg Hay-Fever bout.

>but calculators just add for you dude
yeah, and other writers write books for you to read too. Want to write one of your own? FUCKING HELL

Fucking bullshit. Catholicism has turned to shit with these left leaning, pedo, popes.

You are literally retarded

But that's wrong you fucking retard

Nobody does that though
If anything they'd do 30+10, but why keep the singles in the 13? Might as well just add the two initial numbers

>CC is in place to diminish the ability to problem solve. Coupled with indoctrination methods, whole crops of useless idiots are being engineered.

The CC is designed to make K12 education cheaper, mostly be eliminating the occupation of "teacher". The indoctrination is only a side effect wrought by the weekly testing. The actual content doesn't matter here, the *requirement* for quizzes every Friday which ties into the teacher's score (and thus, the school's score) is a big fucking deal. But again, this is a result of the NCLB and not the CC itself.

prove it then

You made the claim, you prove it. I was born in '92 and learned the left way.

You're missing the point of what said. Don't be a retard.

Adding by tens is for pleb retards. Literally dumber than shit. I bet your faggot ass thinks metric is better than standard.

Hi, born in 95 here

Was taught the way on the left

lol but that is exactly the point, try gaining some reading comprehension

If you want kids to just do math as quck as possible, just teach them to use a calculator. If you want them to get some mathematical intuition, teach them a bunch of different ways to look at math problems

Catholic schools were the first to integrate and were the first to approve of interacial relationships going back thru the 1890s. Most tend to be far more liberal than public schools, because the church more or less preaches communism. This is especially true nowadays considering that the current pope himself is a member of Argentina's communist party.

It just stood out as funny that you, a full grown man, were saying "hay guise this isnt complicated i get it its ez"

It's overly complicated. Fuck off, retard.

1997, Taught the way on the left.

Why not just combine whole tens then add up the remaining numbers?

26+17
10 + 10 + 10
6 + 7

Two steps to get the answer, while common core used 4. This shit is retarded and makes no sense to me and I passed calc 1.

I don't remember the one on the right and I'm 18.

Maybe it's different now, but when I was in school, we weren't allowed to use calculators.

It didn't stand out to you that someone claiming to be a math minor claimed to not be able to understand it

When I say it's not complicated, I mean children could easily grasp these concepts too

>You made the claim, you prove it.

No, this guy did go back to your old textbooks and check

Yes that's another way to do it

It's also a way CC teaches

CC teaches multiple ways to look at the same problem

>This shit is retarded and makes no sense to me and I passed calc 1.

Because we're white adults with fully developed brains. The extra steps make a lot more sense if you're a third or fourth grader, or a nigger.

Its strange how numbers generally only appear on worthy posts

I learned the conventional method but it's how I do math, it's bretty easy once you get past the "any advancement that took place after I learned how to do things is wrong" meme.

CC turns the students, teachers, and parents brains into mush.

We didn't have textbooks in elementary school, we had workbooks. And even if we had textbooks, do you think I would've kept an elementary school textbook?

You're becoming a believer

nice histrionic declaration, got anything of substance

>CC teaches multiple ways to look at the same problem

So common core is about teaching an abstract thought which you can use to solve problems, and not the direct method? No wonder it is failing, trying to teach little kids abstract thoughts when they are too under developed to understand.

Little kids also can't empathize or view things through others' perspectives. Should we start giving lesson on empathy and the philosophical view of self?

No it doesn't. It turns them into consumers, not students. This is hugely important if you want to fire all your unionized teachers and replace them with computers, or if you want to replace it all with a voucher system.

That said, it also turns students into extremely conformist and compliant husks of human beings due to the weekly examination. But again this originates from the NCLB, not the CC itself.

>histrionic declartion

Go crawl back to your uni or reddit

Then go find yours

>And even if we had textbooks, do you think I would've kept an elementary school textbook?

I did since I'm white, but regardless try calling up your old teachers to get the product number. Someone at your old school will know.

kek lives

>The extra steps make a lot more sense if you're a third or fourth grader, or a nigger.

Of course it would, if I was in class an hour a day, having a teacher beat that shit into my mind. Doesn't mean it is effective and if it was, it would have caused a revolution in academics. I am more partial to the theory of teaching math as a language and not a means to a solution.

>complicating math so autist can understand it

>If anything they'd do 30+10
But that yields 40 instead of 43. Surely, you can do 30+10+3 if you want to break it down to single digits as well.
>Might as well just add the two initial numbers
Exactly. Hence I didn't simplify it any further in my previous post.
Keep in mind that this problem is an easy example for literal children though. The point is to ultimately use this on shit like 3359+578+213 because, believe it or not, you WILL employ some sort of simplification trick if you calculate this in your head. I just don't think it's a good idea to shove a certain method down children's throats.

A better idea would be to bring back the abacus. That's a tried and tested way to improve head arithmetic skills at least.

I'll be the devil's advocate for one second. This is a simple, basic questions a 16-year old in the UK might at on their Maths exam at the beginning of the paper. They are allowed roughly 3 minutes, and allowed to write on paper. Addition is easier than subtraction, so most students will start adding and take away the sum from £20:

£20 - (2*£5.95 + £3.08 + £2.46)

Now, I have a BSc in Maths and a MSc in Statistics, and if someone gave me this question - I would work it out in my head and my thought process written in a mathematically correct/formal manner would be:

20 - (2*(6-0.05) +3 + 0.08 + 2.5 - 0.04) =
20 - (12 + 3 + 2.5 - 0.10 + 0.08 - 0.04) =
20 - (17.5 - 0.06) =
20 - 17.44 =
2 + 18 - 17.44 =
2 + (1-0.44) =
2 + 0.56 = 2.56
Written down, this looks stupid and somewhat resembles "common core", but the brain likes working with nice, round figures. The question is whether teaching these methods has any value as opposed to doing plenty of practice "the old way" and letting kids develop their mathematical sense by themselves.

I'm not an expert on education and I don't know. Might they be onto something potentially beneficial? Absolutely. Do I trust the state that has a long track record of fucking education up beyond recovery to implement such methods correctly? Absolutely not.

Do you honestly think little kids are so simple that they can't understand something as easy as "grouping by tens"

They're developing minds, not retarded ones

> YOU USED WORDS I DON'T LIKE GO BACK TO LE REDDIT XD

literally pleb

Step 1: Kill yourself

Step 2: If you didn't do step 1 yet, do step 1

that's clear though. it says "when" not "by"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>They're developing minds, not retarded ones

Spoken like a person that isn't old enough to have kids.

>Treat retards like they're little kids
>Little kids are retards

Brah, come on now.

Literally pointless.

Wait, you actually buy into CC and you aren't just trolling?

no common core started as counting on your fingers but they didnt want black kids to feel dumb so they had them fill in dots or squares for the answer because writing the number was to hard for them

it evolved into full on faggotry

holy shit, those digits

You're the one making the claim that breaking up a problem into groups of ten is a concept so hopelessly abstract that children couldn't possibly understand it

It doesn't need to be effective, it just has to not do any damage. Which it doesn't because no matter what kids grow out of it and learn real math when their brains become capable of it sometime in middle school. Unless they're niggers.

Now, if it did do damage (ie negatively affect test scoring), then we'd have a lot more white people in remedial classes in college. But this isn't the case and in fact the achievement gap has grown much larger because asians and whites know how to do CC crap so well they get much farther than niggers who are stuck in first gear.

The math portion of CC is good, it's just got a bunch of whiny retarded parents upset

The english portion is crammed full of leftist propaganda

So, you know, basically the same educational division there is everywhere else

Someone post the US constitution one that completely changes the second amendment.

They get as far as deciding to break up sums into smaller parts but only go that far?

Why not justify to the 10s place and add 35+29 to get the 64(0)? Better yet I added 35+30(rounded from 290) and subtracted the "1" to get 640.

All this took a glance and is exact except for the ones place. This isn't some accomplishment but if they want to estimate why not take advantage of the base ten number system?

>When you meet someone legitimately retarded online.

>common core isn't a completely jewish plo-

So in college I was a Stats tutor and I also grew up with "common core" style of math learning when I was younger. It is insane how much it helps you perform better with math. Every time I had students struggling with stats I just tutored them with the common core method and nobody who consistently saw me ever got lower than a B for a final grade.

Maybe it works or maybe it doesnt.

>engineer
>high level math

Pick one

You're not really convincing anyone here. We all understand how math breaks down, this isn't the issue.

The issue is teaching it the way that they are to children. That's it.
The way I was taught division at first is pretty retarded at this age, but it helped me understand what i was doing when I was 7 and I think I'm better at math for it.
Common core is turning simple arithmetic into weird word problems that turn 36 into a 3 and a 6 and 3 10s and blah blah blah, it's nonsense.

It's not going to help them with calc or trig when they're in high school or college. Because they SHOULD already be rounding their numbers up to add in their head if their school hasn't failed them.

Your reading comprehension suits your personal abilities. I said that it is easier to just break into tens, not that kids couldn't do it. I was mocking their ineffective method, which you read and scrambled in your mind to mean, "My way is right, why iz dey dummies for not doing it my way?"

That is just the way that I do it, and not even the best method, cause smarter people just get it within a second.

The CC itself began in the late 90s when states started adopting standardized exams to test students, as a means to check the power of unions. California was notable for using the California High School Exit Exam to fuck over spics, as the CASHEE is Prop 63 (which made English the official state language) compliant as it has a difficult ELA section all students must pass to receive a diploma.

Anyway: Republicans obviously saw the value in this as standardized test scores could be used to judge teacher performance, thereby culling the power of teachers unions. In 2002 President Bush happily signed the No Child Left Behind Act, which required all states to have a standardized K12 curriculum. The result was 50 different standards, and by 2010 publishers lobbied the government to create a set of common standards (the Common Core), which 45 states happily adopted.

The content never really mattered. From day one it was about destroying unions and it has been very successful in doing so.

Maybe you're just a good, passionate charismatic teacher and they manage to learn through all the muck

You've gotta be shitting me

>Formerly, math just taught kids quick was to do common arithmetic - an almost useless skill now that we have calculators. Common core math is about getting kids to think about numbers in various different ways, a much more valuable skill for high-level mathematics

The problem is this idea goes against biology. Before puberty children are fucking memorization and pattern recognition machines. The best way to team them is just to do shit like drilling them on the multiplication table and then maybe a few real life example word problems to make the connection. After puberty humans need to almost see the result and need to think things through. This shit has been studied and proven. The common core people are fucking retarded and should be shot for the damage they have done.

Kids need to learn different methods at different times. Memorize the old "line them up and add" method then later the tricks of estimating and breakdown can be done.
It's like teaching coding. First you start with procedural stuff where you learn to think in steps. Then you move on to object oriented coding styles. Some of the procedural style is useless but it was needed to get across the initial knowledge gap before things became too abstract.

>Histrionic
The guy stated an opinion, he didn't cry for attention