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Redpill me on homesteads/off the grid homes

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>Risky to live in since they're not professionally built and if they are they're costly anyway which negates the benefit
>you still have to pay property taxes
>if your services fail, you're fucked, no one's fixing shit for you
>breaks all kinds of laws unless you live way away from civilization where there are no other people, good luck getting a job

there's a reason that these things aren't popping up in cities everywhere

I could always go to a state with no property tax, or one that had homestead programs.

Isnt the benifit that the jews get less of your money in terms of things like utilities, and groceries?

it's a lot of fucking work
a lot of $ initially
you will be lonely
if you decide to leave and not die there it's a total loss financially and a big fucking waste of time

>there's a reason that these things aren't popping up in cities everywhere

Inflexible building codes?

How could I be lonely If I bring a wife?

>unless you live way away from civilization where there are no other people, good luck getting a job

Why is getting a job a goal at all? This is the extent of kike mindfuckery. You think it's the point of life somehow.

Finding a path away from a job is what you should be doing. If that means your own business or just getting enough cash to get away from society or being self-sufficient enough to not need to partake, it's all better options than "wagecuck for 40 years and hope I get promoted".

While I wouldnt call it retiring, per se, I think the easiest way for someone to get out of the corporate world is farming.

>breaks all kinds of laws unless you live way away from civilization where there are no other people, good luck getting a job

Isn't that the point of living in an off the grid homestead? You produce everything you need and sustain yourself?

>there's a reason that these things aren't popping up in cities everywhere

Because if you try to live in such a way that reduces the amount of shekels you need to spend then Big Daddy Government will flip its fucking shit and send the FBI to burn down your compound and shoot kids.

Now renting out a non-running Chevy Astro van. You pay me $50 per month. I provide one large extension cord for your PC setup and a bucket for late night bathroom. For an extra $100 per month. You can use my bathroom 3x per day and you will receive 1-2 meals per day depending on how much my wife hates your guts and whether or not my kids like you.

No drunks.

I'm going to build one.

Note: I have a fuck ton of land in the middle of nowhere that I didn't pay for and it's not even close to being connected to the grid.

Looking into various trades in the mining and agricultural industry for work.

Will give free room/board to autistic Sup Forums girls if such a thing exists in exchange for some nanny services and light cleaning/laundry.

Do you know about earthships?

>land in the middle of nowhere
>Australia
>homestead
there's a reason why almost nobody lives in the outback

>Read everything by Daniel Chiras

It's true, I work in Farm management and the amount of former corporate "upper management" or whatever that left their jobs to start farms is astounding.

I live in city, and i get so claustrophobic. I hate my job, I hate the people around me. Those people are proof that feeling never subsides, even when successful.

Do you have other book recommendations? Should we start a Mega?

>fuck ton of land in the middle of nowhere

You need water. Hopefully it has this, otherwise your main option is to drill a pressure well into the bedrock.

If you're really alone this can be a viable option. Tapping into an aquifer on your own could be a hundred years of use even if it's small. Small scale terraforming if you start reclaiming the land with it.

It's an escape from reality and an attempt to erase one's existence from the world. Certainly not something to choose if you wish to live a full life.

He could one of those rain collecting aquaponics. You can only really do that when alone.

>Risky to live in since they're not professionally built
Yes good goy, don't try to build a home yourself. Only qualified professionals that charge 10x the cost of materials.

A FUCKING NORMIE LEAF

>homesteads/off the grid homes

they're called "earthships"
google it

Owning a small farm requires a lot of upfront costs these days. It's not the nineteenth century anymore. You can't just buy land and start farming. It's a lot of work too. Most small farmers struggle to break even.

Another good one

If you dont mind sharing, I can buy the books, scan them, and make a Sup Forums homestead mega.

There is no such thing as off the grid goy. You're gonna pay no matter what lofty ideals you have, you're gonna hook into the grid if you want to call it a home.

>Be earthship fags

>Build earthship fag community out in the desert

>Get btfo by the government and forced to pay for water and electrical hook ups as well as paying for roads into their property

>Whole point of saving money and getting away from the man gets btfo

Honestly, these people are for the most part not "happy". It's a different life, but they're proof of nothing more than the fact that people will always think the grass is greener. Home is where you make it.

Yes, but I'm assuming if he has a lot of land but doesn't have a ready water source, it doesn't rain much.

Hard to collect enough rainwater for not just daily life but farming as well in that case.

With a pressure well you get a self-pressurized well that lets you recreate a gardens of babylon scenario even if you're in the desert.

>pour foundations yourself
>put in your own electrics
>do your own plumbing
>line up your own staircase

daily reminder Sup Forums should already have land on which to build their own cob house by hand.

Keep it simple.

No one solution works everywhere.

If you try to force ____ solution because it looks cool or seems to work elsewhere, you are likely to spend way more money and make the "off the grid" concept pointless.

Choose land that is near usable local materials for a design that optimizes the local environment/materials. Utilizing sunlight for passive heating is very important. Greenhouses that can be used to increase growing seasons is a smart idea; utilize composting techniques to warm said greenhouse in early spring.

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While building permits and zoning regulations are largely bureaucratic nonsense. You really should have an architect help you with blueprints, and if you aren't familiar with contracting/construction then you're fucked in terms of cost saving.

I would say give up if you plan to live anywhere in the temperate zone. Solar power isn't adequate for power and heating is always going to be expensive.

You're probably giving up a lot of things you haven't accounted for like local drug stores and easy access to doctors, or being in touch with family and friends.

How self-sufficient are you? Do you have your own garden? Do you hunt? Own a farm?

I think most people that want to live off grid just want to live on a farm more or less. That's an actual lifestyle. You could start by making a hydroponics system pretty easily. Some can turn a profit by source exotic/rare cultivars of fresh vegetables to local restaurants, farm to plate and what not.

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None of those things are overly difficult if your willing to learn and your not a complete retard.

Ultimately, it all comes down to time though. How much time do you have/are you wiling to give up to learn these things? If your wanting to live off the grid, then it would help to know how to fix things yourself if they break down, and not have to dish out cash to get someone to come fix it.

cob houses

find a flaw

pro tip: you cannot

>that pic
>completely aesthetics with no utility

Disgusting. I hate when normies do this.

People are just unskilled today. A hundred years ago people ordered houses out of Sears catalogs. People used to be used to able build things...entire houses.

Your typical Hillary supporter can't even walk down the street to buy a burrito, he orders Seemless and has some illegal immigrant bring it to him. But that's "progress"

While those rocket mass heaters look very cozy I have to think that it is very uncomfortable and you'd need a lot more cushions. Also there's a reason building codes don't want you starting wood fires indoors. Lot of people die from CO poisoning every year because they try to use their ovens to heat their houses.

My dad has a terminal illness right now. After he passes there wont be much in the way of me leaving. I attended a hippy college where I learned to farm, build greenhouses and aggregation systems, and be bored. I can always learn to hunt,

All of those tasks are done by crews of illiterate day laborer illegal immigrants in most of the US.

I'm still a newfag here, I guess, because I don't understand what you mean.

>Why don't you just buy the books yourself from Amazon?

Skilled builders.

Easier to build a simple wood frame house and guarantee it's structural integrity. Cob houses could make up ground if industry goes that way, but it would take a huge shift.

Hm? I mean share the titles of your reccomded reads, so that i can purchase them and put them in a collection for other Sup Forumsacks to easily read.

Oh, I'm sorry user-- you mean utility like this?

Because cob has it all, my friend.

Take the cob pill and make your friends and family members take it too

Daily reminder Sup Forums could have a little village built over the summer for dirt cheap and we could all help each other build each other's houses

no commie homo tho

Birds roosting in the rafters. I'm in a third world shit hole right now, and there's nothing I miss more than multileaf construction insulating me from insects and birds squacking all night.

fuck forgot pic related

Communism aint communal or tribal, thats the problem.

Well time is a big factor. While you're building your dream house you need a stable income that doesn't keep you from the construction site.

Barbados was pretty rich I thought?

That looks more like fibreglass.

I suppose that's valid but ideally we'd all become our own skilled builders and help each other learn the same.

I meant that the house was clearly a standard wood frame house, with some cob (probably not even cob) looking center piece. The rest of the house is not cob, so ya, as far as utility goes, it is doing nothing. It is only an aesthetic piece in that house.

the worst thing about these types of houses is they square feet aren't livable space because of the spherical shape

The heating is actually very efficient and you can burn basically anything, problem is that it isn't very safe and you of course have to go through the trouble of collecting kindling rather than having a luxurious Natural Gas lining running to your house. Also maintenance is a bitch as nothing is really rated for the heat they put out aside from fire brick.

Nothing about that picture looks dirt cheap.

cob is good for warm weather, cold weather, dry weather, wet weather

no bugs, no fires, breddy good against earthquakes

you can do your own conduit work and plumbing as you build it to your dream design

it is fucking cheap and possible to do, you can do it yourself or hire a pro

cob houses have stood on the Cornish coast for over 900 years unperturbed

I am shilling hard for cob lads I really think it's the answer but if someone has a redder redpill please share

also blessfor this thread. OP, you are not a faggot because this is the real nitty gritty we need to be discussing

>not living in a comfy, durable shipping container

What happens if you need to see a doctor? Or when you get too old to work?

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This isn't a /cuck/shed thread.

It's a shed for bulls

Is it a house for those dogs or do people live in it too ?

It's all relative. First, I'm on a small archipelago nation just West of Barbados. Second, there is no infrastructure and no property for sale built to Western standards. Third, I could pump millions into building a nice home, but I can't do anything about the terrible nationalized utilities. I miss the power not going out every 3 weeks, I miss gutters, I miss knowing I'll have running water tomorrow, I miss Amazon.

THIS is a bull house.
Stay in your shed cucky boi.

Wanna make it into a general?

don't know if i can redpill you, but we've got land and fuck all money, so we are looking a building double skin geodesic domes, then shrink wrapping them and insulating with recycled stuff. cheapest way to build - lowest surface area to volume ratio and earthquake/hurricane resistant.
Add in a worm loo, rocket heated bath & shower, a shit load of solar and a gennie and we should be sweet.

Is that Dunmer architecture?

What grade of stone chippings did they use ?

>I could always go to a state with no property tax
Nigger what. Are you fucking 12?

Are the cushions filled with real feathers ?

Was meant for

How often do the hinges on those shutters require lubrication ?

bretty gud post for a fucking aussie

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You die. We aren't meant to live forever user.

>tfw your shipping container is bigger and comfier than 99% of British 'dwellings'.because they have no room

Enjoy your closets, britfags

Don't know. Serfs always did it for me.

There are federal states with no property taxes.

>no bugs
I don't see how this technique would make it any less bug prone than standard wood frame houses.

Also, what about mold/fungus?

Posting more comfy photos.

What the FUCK is that monstrosity. It looks 2D m8

I plan to go outside city limits eventually and start a little subsistence farm with some easy livestock (chickens, goats).

Gotta find somewhere away from roving bands of niggers and with good soil and good rainfall.

Im not smart enough to, but if you want to, ill give you my blessing.

Alabama's property tax is so low it might as well not exist.

You replace these kinds of roofs every few years. I once worked for a boss who lived in one of these and though the house was nice he had to get specialist builders in to do it for him every now and then.

Will there be guides to goat raising and traditional desert living?

oh my god Im jealous. I love rustic Britain.

Good luck pulling permits if you ever want to sell one and move

>living so close to a road
>no buffer
>comfy

Nope.

Which dog is called Triton ? his is the top kennel right ?

how does Aircrete compare to cob?

Honestly I'm surprised there isn't one already. We should definitely have an off-grid/alternative houses general.

The answer to all of our political dilemmas is self reliance.

No. I will deal with smaller animals.

All the photos I've posted are from Poland.

I could start drafting a general. What typically goes in the OP?

Hardly very rustic, that looks like a new house.

Are your talking about an artesian well? I would be very surprised if user just happens to have ground on top of an artesian aquifer.