Vietnam war

Why did the army of an advanced, capitalist, militaristic nation capitulate by withdrawal to the Vietcong?
Why is it still such an open wound on the American psyche?

Serous answers only please.

didn't you know? it was just a strategic retreat.

america DID win the Vietnam war. don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

The war effort was being managed and commanded by the political class rather than our military class eradicating the VC.

Why did the army of an advanced, capitalist, militaristic nation capitulate by withdrawal to the American Revolutionaries?
>Why is it still such an open wound on the British psyche?

Read Carl von Clausewitz.

Military power and strategic resources only matter as long as there is also Will To Fight.

The Vietnamese couldn't do shit against the US military, nor could they target the US's resources. But they were able to erode the US's will to fight.

Conversely, the US defeated the Vietnamese is basically every engagement, were able to put a serious strain on their resources, but were unable to erode the Vietnamese will to fight.

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And why did we cuck them so hard that we became the best nation in the planet and now we are acting as their daddy? Sad!

I think for the same reason that Russia got BTFO by Afghanistan. Same reason that Britain got BTFO by George Washington and his posse.

>Why is it still such an open wound on the American psyche?
its not though.

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>Why did the army of an advanced, capitalist, militaristic nation capitulate by withdrawal to the Vietcong?
>Why is it still such an open wound on the American psyche?

The last time they BTFO a chingchong country bordering China, the chinks got involved in the war and started a zerg rush. This was in Korea. Vietnam borders China too.

The US didn't invade North Vietnam. They were fighting a defensive war on the ground. It was all down to attrition. By the end, the Viet Cong was largely made up of NVA troops infiltrated into the country and the Communists had lost way more manpower. But the US homefront turned against the long war and Nixon decided to pull out.

OP, Vietnam was an incredibly unpopular war by the majority of Americans, not just peace hippies.

It was a huge waste of money, time and lives. If we wanted to, we could wipe that current shitstain off the map of the planet.

I've worked with a lot of Vietnamese guys through a visa work program and 90% of them were uneducated and lazy, though they thought things such as the LED light was an amazing alien technology.
The other 10% had either an engineering degree that didn't mean shit in the US or an agricultural degree they couldn't find work with where they were from.

It's not an open wound for us. Our only "wound" right now is our government spending money on stupid shit and defunding everything that actually matters.

NASA, education, clean energy bills? More budget cuts. Military? Military has a 700 billion dollar budget for the year of 2017 alone. Our priorities are fucked.
Who the fuck is thinking about Vietnam?


Just another uneducated Britt cuck listening too closely to his community college cuck teacher.

The same reason Britain withdrew in from Ireland. They did not have the will of the people.

You cannot win a guerilla war without the hearts and minds of the native population on your side. Whereas a state army can be brought to heel and bombed and capitals can be invaded, fighting against a guerilla force is like punching a man made from smoke.
Of course you are the stronger opponent but you can never truly hit your adversary and every time you lash out there's a greater chance you will overreach and hit an innocent person.

Guerrilla forces gain strength from their respective countries. South Vietnam initially welcomed american forces with some hesitant skeptical optimism. By the end of the war the average Vietnamese person hated america and viewed the destruction wrought upon the now one country as an american doing. The initial reasons of invasion by North Vietnam being forgotten.

The word vietnam has become a synonym for "a personal hell" or "torturous process." And for good reason.

More vietnam veterans died of suicide due to the effects of PTSD than soldiers killed in Vietnam.

And that number hasn't stopped yet. Iy would be accurate to say it's an open wound because it was a war that did effect your country for generations.

Generations of abused spouses and mentally ill young men raising abused children to go on to raise abusive spouses and mentally ill children. The cycle continues.

We actually talk about this on /k/ atleast once a week from day/k/are kids. there are few points to to know

1) home field advantage. Vietnamese know how to deal with the Vietnamese tropical climate, Generic Joe from Tennessee does not.

2) spies and community goodwill. North Vietnam had a great spy network in Southern Vietnam. If there was a new troop deployment, the Southern Vietnamese hookers and Taxi drivers would hear it and sell the info to the North Vietnamese.

3) Force matching. we came in there expecting North Vietnamese to field Tanks, platoons and in organized fighting forces Similar to world war 2, while they were fighting a Guerilla war. they did to us what we did to the british in the revolutionary war.

4) no reason to be in Vietnam. Really, the most official reason they had was "To stop the spread of communism" when all it was was a third world dinkie little country in southeast asia with little exports and little strategic utility to the west. The investments into the region were not worth effort to take it.

in terms of strength and power, we were crushing them. however, it was an unfavorable war back home, and politicians didn't want it to continue. also they had homeland advantage

why are americans always so bitter about this topic when it comes up?

>lol it's a third world shithole anyways

same reason why grown ass adults are embarrassed about their teen years.

>Why did the army of an advanced, capitalist, militaristic nation capitulate by withdrawal to the Vietcong.

Because we won, destroyed the VC and NVA, and forced them to the peace table. The Easter Offensive was a military disaster for the North and Creighton Abrams's village pacification strategy destroyed them. Democrats then used Watergate to defund the South. Knowing that the USA wouldn't come to their aid, the North was able to rearm and go in for the kill.

We didn't lose. We were stabbed in the back.

>Why is it still such an open wound on the American psyche?

Because it was a stupid, unpopular war.

And because the Left used it as a moral justification to attack white, Christian America and to seize power and they've never let up.

didn't you post this the other day?

I'd rice her patty if you know what I mean.

No question we lost, but we beat ourselves. Scared of China so we didn't invade the north. Public opinion eroded political will at home, despite the fact that we crushed the NVA/VC on the battlefield in almost every engagement, and never lost a major battle. Weak politicians were also unwilling to unleash the full power of the Air Force/Navy on the North, not just on military targets but also on their slant-eyed populace (with a few exceptions, but only for brief periods of time.) We also treated many South Vietnamese like shit so it was easy to for the North to win hearts & minds. Never should have went there in the first place, no question, and mad respect to the Vietnamese who fought us... Probably the best fighters, pound for pound, the US ever went up against, with the possible exception of the Japs.

The US has still never lost a war due to performance on the battlefield alone, unlike Britain.

Fuck off.

You know what vets really hate? People who have no idea wtf they went through analyzing them and making sweeping statements about them.

Nobody gave a fuck about my dad when he got to the airport except for some faggot Hippies who decided to accost him. He sure as shit doesn't care for people decades later all of the sudden acting like they give a shit.

Just leave them be.

Oh and by the way look at how former friend china is being a bully to Vietnam now. They were crying over fishing rights in the south china sea not that long ago.
So you reap what you sow when sucking china's dick.

They were simply better.
They also lost against some koreans with forks.

Politics.

We beat the NKPA all the way to the Yalu before the Chinese saved them, and even then it took the Chinese, with a 2-1 strength advantage and short supply lines, to force a stalemate.

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