The curious alliance between right-libertarians and nationalists

I don't fit into either category myself, but I am curious as to why there seems to be a alliance between the two sides online (and it does seem to be mainly online). I don't fit into either camp myself (or to the current version of leftism for that matter), but I do wonder why two groups who are so different on paper often intermingle. Is it due to both wanting to restore "smaller" forms of governmental structures (i.e. the nationalist wants their country less entangled in globalism and the libertarian--usually--wants more local control at the state level)? I've noticed both sides have a (reasonable) dislike of bureaucracy, so this might be the case, but is it the only or main reason? Any thoughts or theories behind the alliance, or did I basically get it right with my initial impression?

(Also, I am aware that there are nationalists and libertarian camps that despise one another, but I'm not talking about those at the moment, though feel free to bring them up if you wish.)

I am National Capitalist so I am libertarian Nationalist. Or what Liberals like to say Libertarian Fascist.

Libertarians are the real liberals. Fascists are the real conservatives.

What passes for normal right/left politics in this country is really a choice between full on cultural Marxism (Democrats) vs. acceptance of Marxist ideals and full on Zionism (Republicans). Two sides of the same shekel.

I like freedom and I put my countrymen above foreigners because we can only rise together.
Invaders must die and things that ruin the family unit should not be allowed.
Fascism is needed to get rid of the problems then with a homogenous society freedom could be enjoyed again and charity would be more available because of the love your neighbor virtues that should be instilled.

I'm somewhere between fascist and libertarian and the contrast makes it kinda hard to place so I just accept the fascist label since that is needed first.

They both hate the far left, which is really just the left at this point. The mainstream Democrat party and their established media vanguard are completely batshit insane left, of course everyone else is collaboratiing to put them the fuck down.

Would you say this is similar to economic nationalism?

The worst of both will never gain any real power, so an alliance between the best aspects of the two works out well, as it used to in America.

>Libertarian Fascist.
Stop this idiocy, there's no such thing.
The only difference between fascism and libertarianism is libertarians want personal freedom while fascists argue that it must be somewhat limited for the greater good.
It's one or the other, but don't make up stupid contradictory crap

I'd rather live with those shitbirds than the left.

Simple. Marxism is a toxic degenerative bacteria that eats at the heart of all we love and cherish. The Fascist and the Libertarians have realized that this is a far greater evil than they consider each other.

please stop trying to conflate libertarians with eugenicists. we really dont care about your bull shit racism.

America was founded on a combination of the two, and it worked pretty well for a long time.

Only because both schools of thought and their supporters aren't welcomed by the official conservative parties of many countries, and they both hate the left and weak "conservatives".

>Libertarian Fascist.

Just fascist, come to terms with yourself.

This.
Stop being a faggot. You're as bad as some lefty who claims they're non-binary or that Unbased Stickcuck who calls himself an "American Nationalist".

When you say nationalist, you are not looking at the many kinds. In this case both sides are usually civic nationalist. Civic nationalists are patriotic anti globalist. When you really think about it, the alt right movement is really just a coalition of a bunch of anti globalist (neo-con/libs) nationalists.

>anti globalist

sure you are

Civic Nationalists are cucks who give into Gloablism. Take unbased stickcuck for example.

I think Libertarians are worried at the rising heat between the Left and the Right.

But we see a Communist Revolution brewing and its not something we will allow to happen in America.

Libertarians will raise arms to fight against Communists even if that means we have to team up with Fascists.

But we will do it when the Commies become a real threat.

Basically the one thing we can agree on is that unless we act together soon leftists will literally accidentally our whole civilisation.

Not caring what race lives in america sounds pretty globalist

t. pic related

this. there has been a lot of d&c shilling lately. fuck all that noise

>libertarian fascist
You have no idea what you speak off

Most libertarians are just proto-fascists anyway. As soon as they realize the real reason /why/ they hate taxes they'll be on our side.

What matters is who's on top. Pic related.

Partly because a lot of nationalists, especially the older generation are ex-libertarians, and are familiar with the rhetoric and ideals of it. That means that even with their new views, most know how to argue and reach a compromise with them, instead of just shutting them down with commie tactics.

Also lolbertarians see nationalists as probably the useful idiots who will challenge the current bureaucracy, and take most of the heat of leftists attacks while they themselves try to limit government influence.

Either way, for the short term both groups goals allign: Lolbertarians want less government, Nationalists want less international control and governing over their territory. Both want to curb excessive control, and since the global governing is so overreaching, there is no contradicting of boths viewpoints in the short-term future.

>if only South Africa had never been an apartheid, it would have been much better off today!

lobergs are fucking retarded.

They'll come around. We were all lolbergs once.

user, can you please post a larger image of this? or tell me where you found it

user-sama, you can be libertarian and nationalist. I'm a nationalist minarchist

But out of all examples to prove his point, he chose South Africa as proof that racial awareness leads to downfall...

Thats on the scale of DR3 that should not be possible.

Oh guys like stick man are a lost cause. I just meant the average lolberg on Sup Forums. Don't have kids with yellow women guys.

There's the regular right. Then there's those who are right but not part of that group. Alternative if you will.
We're grouped by our opposition more than by our similarities.

Libertarians eventually notice only white people have any interest in libertarianism.

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I think the reason is more simple than that.

They have a common enemy which has grown substantially and was (and could still) trying to reestablish the ideologically worst offender from a human rights standpoint history has ever seen.

The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, but we both understand the situation. I don't like nazis, but I hate commies.

The alliance is temporary, but important.

We must secure the existance of our people and a future for white children.

>better dead than red.

Also, obligatory Liberty Prime

My reason is that we both agree that the leftists need to be defeated, and while we'll likely fight each other after we've beaten the left at least if they win the society they form will be based on traditional values.

Today's Nazis and Fascists are not pushing for genocide but for isolation. Libertarians and NatSoc/Fascists both want to end the welfare state and agree on many other things. It's not just the immense threat of communism/liberalism, they ideologies can respect one another.

To clarify, if today's more extreme right wing movements were in the streets saying to lynch niggers and gas the kikes, the libertarians would never associate with them. Natsoc/Fascists have grown up in what they want and how to achieve it, and Libertarians are starting to appreciate them (all the Pinochet worship as show at Trump rallies.)

>Today's Nazis and Fascists are not pushing for genocide but for isolation.

Ostensibly. I wonder how the interplay between civic nationalists and ethno-nationalists are going to play out after the common enemy is done.

I'm ok with finding peace where it's possible and practical, but the way things turn out isn't always how people think they will.

EthnoNationalists will stop being retards and just make a white ethnostate somewhere by buying up all the land in a rural state.

When it doesn't collapse and actually does great, liberals will say it was because of institutionalized racism. Civic nationalists will become more redpilled and want to repeal the 1965 immigration act.

OP, there's this kind of alliance within America: basically everyone from pissed off former democrats to libertarians to even 1488ers are ganging up on the cancerous extreme-left SJW degenerates who have infected our media, academia, and political establishment. I say this as a former leftist who is sick of dealing with kids who think "microagressions" are destroying the lives of women and brown people, but think it's acceptable to shit all over white people for some reason. I believe in a world where people will be judged by their characters and not their skin colors, and the best way to do that (in the immediate future) is to destroy the far left and its cultural influence. Eventually we'll have to deal with assholes like Andrew Anglin, but I think neo-Nazism isn't a big threat at all, for now, at least.

You do know that your colour-blindness will keep generating problems over and over again, that the moment you think you finally have reached a stable enough state to go after the neo-nazies will never appear.

If you are thinking of libertarian in economic terms it does, the economy of Italy for instance fluctuated from laissez faire in the '20s to extremely socialist in the RSI

What people need to realize is that equality is a Marxist meme period. Races are not equal. Sexes are not equal. Even within a race and sex, people are not equal. The real right is anti-equality. We need to embrace this fully and argue from this as our moral basis. Accepting leftist egalitarian morality at our core will only enable them to deconstruct our proposals.

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