Men of Sup Forums, can you give me your thoughts and redpills on healthcare?
Why do people want the same healthcare system that the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Cuba, Communist China, and countless other socialist nations had?
Why do people think that it will be cheaper and better than private healthcare when Canadians (at least before Obamacare) came down to the US to get treatment?
To what extent does wait lines exist in single payer nations?
Is the US really behind the world on this?
And if single payer can't work, then what is the solution?
If you want socialized healthcare, the only way to even remotely make it feasable would to be deport the foreigners. Then it would still have to be strictly distributed so that those on it wouldn't become dependent, or abuse it. But if someone wanted to do that they would get called "Nazi"
Nathan Martinez
I would pay into the system if only people of my own race / community can use it. The fact the left wants to open our borders and have me pay for everyone in the world who can make it here, is quite frankly rediculous.
Robert Ward
Single payer could work if our budget wasn't completely fugged. The only positive that communist country's healthcare had was free childcare. The rest of it was mostly shit. You know why cuba's healthcare improved? Because after the fall of the soviets that country had no oil imports due to the blockade, same with prescription medicine. This forced the population to turn to walking, biking, and growing their own food which dramatically improved their exercise and diets.
You can't have a single payer system in a country of 330M where only 45% of people work, and whose median income is shit tier compared with the cost of living. You would have to increase taxes dramatically, meaning, the cost of healthcare would still be just as expensive as before, only socialized cost.
The upside is you won't be denied healthcare based on income. But your standard of living will decrease in the short run. Thats why I didn't vote for Bernie
Gabriel Adams
It won't allow competition, which is what fosters innovation in the medical industry.
There's a reason why the United States has more Nobel Prizes than the rest of the world combined, and over half of these prizes are in physiology or medicine. The US is responsible for the vast majority of the world's drugs, technology, and techniques.
If we went to socialized healthcare today (and we could afford it because we wouldn't need Medicare or Medicaid anymore), the entire world's standard of healthcare would stagnate. No one is going to spend billions of dollars engineering the new wonder drug if regulations force them to charge $1 per pill for it. How fucking long do you think it will take them to recoup their R&D costs? They won't do it. You need to let them charge what they want to make a profit, and the natural competition between different pharmaceutical companies will not only drive down prices but will drive better and better advancements.
Deregulate healthcare, unshackle the industry if you want to see more breakthroughs.
Liam Brown
>we wouldn't need Medicare or Medicaid anymore you cant be serious. Of course we would still need both. Both and much more, that is what a single payer system is supposed to accomplish.
Collective bargaining might accomplish a more affordable system but what would most likely happen is the government would become an insurer and just outbid other insurers
Bentley Lopez
We don't need socialized anything.
We need to criminalize insurance companies refusing to cover costs, slipping in fine print, and refusing to cover.
They make billions in profits each quarter on the backs of suffering Americans, and in turn are allowed to worm their way out of having to spend out any of it to actually preform the job the people are paying them to preform.
It's like they are allowed to force everybody else to through into the pot and rounds in a poker game, and then they are allowed to take all of the money off the table before even seeing the river.
A fucking cake baker isn't suppose to be allowed to refuse service to anybody based on their lifestyles and choices the baker doesn't agree with, but these insurers are allowed to discriminate against you and refuse coverage and services based on your lifestyle and changing states of health, and keep ALL the profits??
Knock out this rigged system first, and teh rest of the dominoes would fall into place.
Austin Martinez
PAY MY HEALTHY
Anthony Reed
this
Mason Myers
This. With all the laws and regulation today, (((healthcare administrators))) are a huge cost.
