This ones gonna be interesting

this ones gonna be interesting

debate me on why communism would be a bad idea

if you make a good enough argument i will change

go for it

It's doesn't work

Burden of proof is on you, nigga.

Math is the reason why it will never work.

Because forced collectivism breeds extreme individualism, as it is enforced.

Kinda ironic, but you are more likely to reach that distant "real communism" through right libertarian doctrine (no outside support exept voluntary one from the community) than whatever left one.

Now neck yourself you lazy filth.

I hate these threads.....

Why don't you enlighten us and give us an example of it working?

I'm sick and tired of yelling at a wall only to throw it out of a helicopter

This.

It doesn't work because it involves people. Have you evermetpeople? I don't mean just your friends or nice people you like. I mean loud pushy people who cut in front of you. Cheap people who never give a good tip. Nasty people who laugh when someone's in trouble. Well-meaning but dumb people who never show up on time because they always get lost.

Ok, the workers have seized the factory as a means of production and kicked out the bourgeoisie. Now what? We still need to decide what the factory will make, how much to charge for that thing, how much to pay the workers. Some people will still need to stand bent over a machine for 12 hours and some people will still need to have fancy lunch with clients - and we need to decide which is which.

So this is the point at which communism works in theory. If all the workers who seized the factory are well-meaning and clever and figure out which are the best products to sell and then divide the work and the money fairly, then communism works and everyone is happy. In theory. In practice, some people are sneaky and unfair and will try to get most money for least work. Some people are loud mouths and will insist the factory make some stupid product nobody will buy. Some people are dumb and can't do their work properly, even if they wanted to.

Humans are greedy by nature.

It's anti-Christianity.

((They)) said it was anti-christianity hahaha pretty sure I still saw crucifixes and churches inside Russia or do you count Orthodox Christianity as not being Christian

My grandmother had to make a line to get black flour so she could feed her two daughters, and most of the time there wasn't enough for the whole town. My mother's whole family was on a list of right-wing simpatizers who had to be killed when the inevitable civil war erupted, little kids included (it didn't because the military stopped it by overthrowing the commies).
Now you tell me if that sounds like a functional system.

>crucifixes and churches inside Russia
Christianity triumphed despite the best efforts of the Soviet Union.

Brainlet-tier Autism

Depending on what you call christianity. At most, true orthodox christianity fell with the fall of soviet union, since it ended state atheism and common people once again returned to their ooga-booga practices.

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Some people deserve more than others. Of course there are also degenerates who get far more than they deserve, but they can abuse a socialist system all the same. Your agenda of equality is extremely counter productive.

Communism comes form the christian branch that glorifies poverty and demonizes profit.

In both, communism and Christianity, the rich is the bad guy. "Private property is theft", commerce is bad, etc.

Christianity thinks that God will provide, communism thinks that the State will provide.

Now, if you don't have private property and freedom to sell and buy as you want THEN you are forced to sell your time (and properties if you have any) as the State dictates AND forced to buy the only available products. Which basically turns you into a slave. Which both, in christianity and communism is a great achievement.

Slave-centered societies never innovate, never invent anything, because the slave has no incentive to make it better or faster, neither does the slave owner who is not doing the job in the first place.

In free societies, that is, societies where men are free to buy and sell their products without coercion is where all major inventions and technological revolutions occur. Because if you double your product, or enhance your quality, or find better ways to manage your business you get richer, so you get more inventive and apply yourself, which at the end is better for all. And even if some don't make it, there is such surplus of goods and money that no one dies of starvation and pretty much everyone has wifi.

If your THIS blue pilled you need to lurk more. A lot more.
Newfag.

This also

Communism is a bad idea because of three main reasons:

1) It demonizes the elite class to the point were killing even the most innocent is totally justified.

2) It opens the floodgates for any one person or group of people to take total control of a country and impose an (actual) authoritarian rule, in which any dissenters are killed without question and whose constituents most align with the "right think".

3) The government isn't particularly good at doing shit already. Why would it EVER be a good idea for them to have full control of everything?

It is nothing but a pipe dream that brings the real demons out to play.

WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT IS CORRUPTED COMMUNISM. BUT PURE COMMUNISM IS A GOOD IDEA. LETS TRY THAT

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It all explains itself by history

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It has the same fallacy as socialism: it presumes we are all equal. This is clearly not true. There is obviously an intellectual hierarchy, both inter and intraracially. The nigger who washes the floor does not deserve the same cut as the white man who develops new software.

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Biggest shill post if I ever did see one..
Sa-geh