Need Sup Forums to redpill a commie

A good friend of mine is turning into a crazy commie. I don't want him to get lost into the lies of the leftists. Can someone provide me some good redpill

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show the retard the statistics on how many millions died in communist countries

make him read road to serfdom
mises.org/sites/default/files/Road to serfdom.pdf

already done but he gave the "it wasnt't real communism, next time we will make it work" response... is it too late for him to be a normal human being again ?

Explain communism's ties to Russia and watch them try to kill themselves.

Sup Forums-tier arguments are shit. Communism cannot be persuaded from. It is a position, whose philosophy was developed by the brightest minds of the century. And here you ask an anonymous forum of rather subpar people to disprove it?

i have no idea what this is, but i'll read it and pass it to him as well. Danke sehr

you can serch some hardcore tankie and let your friend be redpilled on the REAL dictatorship of the proleteriat (aka socialism)
(communism is in fact never been tryed because it's the utopic end goal of socialism)

Show him some thomas sowell, he will redpill him on the invisible hand, the free market. Thomas Sowell used to be a commie but he himself realised it didn't work and become a right wing economist.

marx and engels antropological theories were in fact not so bright (even by 19th century standards

Are communists really worse than liberals? I'm not so sure anymore.

And redpill him about bolsheviks, state power. Also capitalism works as a conflict system too. There will always be some form of scarcity, capitalism does create more scarcity than necessary however it will always exist. Capitalism allows people to decide where these scarce resources go. Socialism precedes Communism, socialism always results in corruption e.g present day Venezuela.

The communists ARE the liberals, antifa is communist.

According to Sup Forums they are the same thing. But then again any sort of ideological analysis from a bunch of trumpsucking NEETs is basically worthless.

get him to read Gulag Archipelago and My Disillusionment in Russia

heavily depends on the definition of liberals
in germany the liberals are our economic right wing party

Well that's just retarded. I should stop spending so much time here.

Get your friend talking about someone he hates.

Then explain that in Communism he would be working to feed and care for that guy who probably would do nothing.

Explain that people work for money and if you don't give people a reason to work (more food/money) then they tend to not work. As is evident with our military, with our own country, and historical human nature. Meaning if people can do little to no work and get the same as the guy doing all the work they would gladly abuse it.

In capitalism a man depends on his own ability to be productive so he has a means of self gain either from his own labor or from his labor for others.

these stories woun't work most communist blame the "old system" (capitalism) for the deaths

Just point out how Russia killed it's own people because you lose value in a human In a Communist society.

> Gulag Archipelago
That's bullshit. It's like "I am legend" about USA's 50s

You don't just "make things work."

People settle into certain economic and government systems because they come about naturally. Communism is unnatural, and what ends up happening is total authoritarian dictatorship with all property belonging to one leader and their lackeys. It's robbery.

This will happen -every single time.- Tell them to listen to Noam Chomsky on Anarcho-Syndicalism, if they want to have a silly ideology that will never happen(for reasons stated) then they should probably pick the intellectual big brother to Communism that doesn't have 100 million dead on its hands.

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Underated post. Read them.

only works if you can trace it back to inherent problems in marxist ideologie
or you will hear "muh thats rushaa we dono lif in rushaa todai shituatshion iz totali difertnt"
or "stalin iz a tradoa on ze tru cauze"
or "ze zoviet rebublik iz sztade capitalism"

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Sralin dindu nuffin

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> Eating 1.3 trillion years old fish with 193 trillion years cheese we found in ice.

>communists ARE the liberals
What?

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he's fucked lol

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well this is harmless after all

Liberals certainly tolerate and encourage the communist sect. What's made worse is the attempt for "solidarity." They each support each other. Gays, feminists, minorities, communists, they each rally to each others causes and join in one mass without debate or question. If you dissent in the slightest to just one part they will also attack as a group.

Fortunately this shouldn't happen for much longer, the atmosphere now feels like if someone asks your political orientation that using the word 'liberal' is treated with incredulity. People tend to assume you're "one of those crazy people," if you don't distinguish modern liberalism from classical, the way it had been intended.

Commie here. It won't work. We are the red pill.

You are the disease. We are the cure.

>hurrr leftists kill other leftists that means they aren't actually TRUE leftists
Fuck off.

Current "liberals" are socialists in everything but name, no need to be so butthurt about it.

well this is all before stalin send them all to the gulags

Liberals in America want me to pay tax so they can get abortions even though it's against my religion.
They want me to pay tax so they can be deadbeats.
They want me to pay tax to take care of their Mexican immigrants.
They want to make me give away my shit to charity. When i don't and can't support said charity.

As a man who owns land and a small buisses I want to be the man who decides how I spend my earned money.

Liberals in America want to make everyone economicaly equal at the cost of the people who have put in the work to earn their gains.

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He tried to after the war, but his Jewish mistress killed him. Again, he was surrounded by Jews

Learn english you fucking kanacken

You are a Victim nothing more
A Brainwashed moron
When i fled the USSR it was fucking hell
my whole life there was fucking hell
and the "evil West" we all got indoctrinated untill i fled to Germany was the only Free place i ever been to

Free helicopter ride?

he started before the war with germany

He's already lost LMAO

Go to a pub and get a new friend who's life doesn't revolve around fringe politics

Anectdotal evidence at best.

Look the problem with communism, it's not only the negative association with old the failure states that have tried to implement systems of state redistribution of labor.

The problem with communism it's to much state, it will always be, it does works and in still does in many countries, it's harsh but functional.

The problem it's that's a huge step down compared to our current level of comfort, we'll hace to live worst, for no reason, both systems are forced to deal with every single individual, therefore in market capitalism at least you get to chose the poorly prepared proffesional that will provide services.

>starts the engine

And none of those things actually have anything to do with the definition of liberalism. This is the problem with the left.

They have joined in solidarity as one bigger party and adapted the title of "liberal" while being the very thing against it. They do not debate the policy, they push policy and approve of everything the party says without question. If any of those "liberals" voted no on anything they would be ousted.

*kanacke (i am just one)

Fuck off nigger

he did slowly start but never completely succeeded, he never had complete power, a lot of the people in the communist party and the nkvd officials and officers were jewish

The best way to red pill a commie is through God.

best way to red pill a commie who truly believes that shit is bullet

You know who really likes communism? People who have never live under communism

No left-wing or commie rebuttal to me?

youtube.com/watch?v=FGaosBHdFMA&t=2s - only good commie is a dead one

>oh no, it's retarded

I second that.
Here is a song for all you Commies out there.
Be afraid.
youtube.com/watch?v=Y4CLfL-YkRs

step one is always LERN THE LINGO
no one ever lived under communism (when you use a marxist definition)
communism is the GOAL it's the utopic paradise

the acctual state/government is caled socialism/"the dictatorship of the proleteriat"

Move to a country that wont tax you nigger.

you know what you have to do

The problem with communism is simple, it's an ideology built upon the founding principle that bands of radicalized hobos have not only the right but the moral duty to rob and murder you because you own more property than them.

Maybe that makes sense if you're a hobo, but for everyone else it's obviously retarded.

The goal that Marx set can never be reached.

communists do acctualy exist
socialists are kind of the alt-light of marxism

yes everybody with half a brain who knows the difference of a human and an ant knows

>Trosky
>Behind Stalin
Lol

Stop being a jobless welfare baby nigger.

I like my roads you use to drive to my store. I hate paying to abort your nigger babies.

They're not the alt-right of Communism.

Socialism is the stage that comes before Communism. They're the ones that are supposed to soften the terrain for actual Communism.

All in all: Socialism is the less Commie Communism. A kind of beta Communism.

''What do you call a Communist? Someone who reads Karl Marx and Lenin. What do you call an Anti-Communist? Someone who understands Karl Marx and Lenin.''

The abolition of private property and the nuclear family is unacceptable and we will never give up fighting.

He was for a time though.

one could ague that aborting nigger babies is a cause worth contributing your money to

Light not right

Are the left-wing liberal retards and commies BTFO?

The most concise explanation for commies I have ever heard.

You guys should probably start by reading the Communist manifesto and understanding that every one of Marx's demands has been met in America. Literally the only difference is that we use property taxes instead of nationalizing all property.

Stuff like Central Bank, National Education System, Tennesee Valley Authority development, are all Communist policies. And not even Marx went so far as to demand that the State provide free healthcare to advanced technology to every human being, citizen or not.

America is ALREADY more communist than most self-professed communist states ever were.

And one of the most commonly misunderstood notions from Marxism is that of the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat". People think the communists are just going to pick a random worker and make him dictator in charge of everything. That's not at all what it means. What "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" means is the workers decide what gets made. In contemporary terms in our society this is referred to as "Demand-driven economy". Instead of workers only being paid enough to survive and reproduce, they are paid closer to their real market value and thereby have disposable income by which to influence what gets made. Kickstarter is a good example of this; Kickstarter is communist.

reminds me of the spongebob socialism gif.

make em' listen too the gulag archepelago audio book, or you listen too it and youll have material to talk about
youtube.com/watch?v=ccASsjhhgP8

bunch of retarded americans waving hammer&sickle flags doesn't make them communists. they are just retarded products of retarded american education. they don'T even know what they are defending. they just spew hollywood-ish dialogue because of their butthurt. really retarded.

True story

Makes me a little sad but it's true.

I pray Trump can set an education standard and make American Education Great.

Put an end to liberal propaganda echo Chambers.

Damn yeah I got a qt friend who is straight Marxist commie and they do not listen. I can understand the thought process but she made so many contradictions I honestly wonder what the fuck is going through their heads.

Seriously its abusive. Its brain washing. Rewriting history.

>The goal that Marx set can never be reached.
We've literally already reached it. Here are Marx's demands from the Communist Manifesto

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. (We use property tax instead of full abolition)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (less now than it was)
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (estate tax)
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. (Civil forfeiture and sanctions)
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (Federal Reserve)
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. (Utility companies)
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (New Deal and TVA)
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. (TVA)
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. (Pretty much abandoned except in a few programs)
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Dept of Education, Child services)

Do you guys see? America has already been almost entirely communist for a very long time. Communism got a bad brand, so they were like lets put everyone under communism even as we manipulate them to think they are fighting communism; they're too stupid and ignorant and lazy to actually do research for themselves and learn what communism is and that it already surrounds them.

>Can someone provide me some good redpill
Nothing can be done until he gets thrown under the bus by his new "friends".

this was tried
not accomplished