>staff losing their positions must train other local CIBC employees. Those employees then train the workers in India who will be taking over the jobs.
>CIBC pulled in a $1.4 billion profit in the last quarter and is still outsourcing jobs to save money. "They said it's cheaper labour and it's 24 hours, because when we are sleeping, they are working."
America, be thankful Trump cares about your jobs. Trudeau is just letting this happen.
Accounting used to be a safe job
>The jobs being outsourced are mainly accounting-related positions. CIBC has already let go some staff and the layoffs will continue to roll out over the course of the year.
>The replacement workers in India are with the global consulting and outsourcing firm, Accenture, which is partnering with CIBC.
Fucked up
>not training them wrong on purpose
They need to be shamed just like RBC was shamed when they were replacing Canadian workers with foreign temporary workers.
For Americans who don't know, CIBC is one of our largest banks. RBC is also a huge bank that caused quite the scandal last year when they were blatantly replacing older employees with temporary foreign workers. They were shamed to shit and changed their ways.. for the time being.. they had this to say in the article above
>"RBC will not offshore work where salary savings is the primary reason and will make every effort to source in Canada," the bank said in a statement.
Glad I'm with BMO, until they do the same thing.
The only solution desu.
RBC outsourced enough already that the PR moved changed nothing.
Source: Used to work there and had to call my fellow pajeets for branch support and even I couldn't understand them
>Implying the big canadian banks aren't walking in lockstep.
literally no job is safe, as long a the government values GDP growth at any cost, over responsibility to their population and voters.
This will backfire as always
They'll get some short term profits by saving money but suffer in the long run
The assumption amongst the general population is that lower skilled jobs are being outsourced because nobody wants to do those jobs. I know for a fact in Ontario, Engineer graduates are struggling to compete against outsourced Indians/asians. Engineers graduating from one of our top engineering schools uofwaterloo.
Its sad that its bleeding into other traditionally well-paid jobs that once held security
Globalist scum. How do we free Canada from the grasp of jews and foreign subhumans?
>They'll get some short term profits by saving money but suffer in the long run
Nope, only if government sanctions force them to stop outsourcing by making it less profitable than hiring locally.
You can't argue against the fact that it's more profitable to outsource, and is in fact a boost to the GDP. The hidden cost, however, is always the social cost.
Fuck the LIBERALS
Fuck the CONSERVATIVES
Bernier better be /ourfuckingguy/
It was never a question of a lack of talent. It was always a question of increasing profits at any cost. The corporations don't feel the social consequences of abandoning their roots. It's a soulless machine that is only motivated by economic growth.
This.
>working for a manufacturing company about 4 years ago
>they're moving jobs to India
>all of us supervisors losing our jobs but they pay us to go over there to train them
>we all make a pact to fuck shit up
>train them incorrectly, use wrong measurements, etc
>company did not think it was prudent to send someone over there to oversee all of us
>whole country stinks like shit
>we did a piss poor job of training everyone
>yfw the company had to postpone the move because none of the workers were prepared
>yfw they had already let us go and were trying to rehire us
>yfw I made them bump my pay $10k a year and throw in a $5k annual bonus increase
>yfw annual bonus was coming up in a month
>yfw resigned a few days after they paid out my bonus
Fuck 'em. They eventually made the move and I hope they're happy with the savings.
>hire poo in loo accountants
>they sell your books to Chinese industrial spies
>Slavs steal everyone's identities and empty their bank accounts
Go ahead and outsource critical information, I'm sure it will have no negative repercussions.
I switched to fido because when you call their support you get a hip white girl or a yuppy sounding white guy.
Imagine you have a phone bill that makes no sense cause bell.
>RING RING
>ALLO SIR MY NAME IS FRANK DURK BUR OW MAH I ELP OOOH
>explain problem, deal with retard
>hang up and call again
>Hi my name is Jeff
>explain problem, gets fixed in a min
I will never purchase a service from companies that outsource to these subhumans
My bank. I had a turd pick up the phone and I lost my fucking shit, "can I get a canadian office please"
>SIIIRH I AM CANADIAHN IN CAHNDA PLES EXPLAN PROBEMS
>gives me false information about setting up a cash account
lose my shit and call again, complain that I got a turd and the poor guy was like, "yeahh... I know who you are talking about, we'll send you an email and you can write a complaint"
They operate in an environment that allows them to get away with this. During the elections, Trudeau claimed to be against the temporary foreign workers program. He sided with Canadians. Then when he got into power all of that changed. I think the saddest example of this was the fact that he hired 3 nannies out of country to work for him once he got into office.
Now, I'm not even going to get into how pathetic it is that his wife, who never had a job besides being a yoga teacher, whose only job is to be his wife, needs 1 nanny per child. But that after claiming to crack down hard on companies outsourcing jobs, they themselves outsourced the nannies is just sad.
Here is a picture of two of their outsourced nannies with their three children
I'm with RBC bank. They used to have Indians who answered the phone when you called, until people complained. Now its a fucking robot who doesn't understand anything you ask it. When you ask for help of hit 0, it says that option is not available. you have to scream help like 20x to get a human
This is really sad tbqh something needs to be done to keep jobs in your country
But the butthurt that is flowing is amazing.
I want to believe.
wrong picture. the older lady is trudeaus mom. so just one nanny in the picture. the yellow woman
How hard is it to get an job thats been outsourced from North America? I see your flag? Whats the process
hope you checked the fine print. a bonus usually requires a time commitment
Trudeau, through his policies, is a near-perfect representation of the social disconnect between the bureaucratic, self-appointed political nobility and the common people.
He reminds me of the arrogant French aristocracy right before the French Revolution. Just completely disconnected from the plight of the people, yet unashamedly parading themselves and their fortunes among them.
Sadly, Canadians don't yet strike me as angry French revolutionaries.
lmao pls let this happen.
As much as I don't want to defend this, these are probably some data entry type jobs that really don't require much brain power and skill to do. No point of some dudes sitting around on reddit all day with full time pay and benefits when you can spend pennies for some poo in the loo to do it.
Jobs that require high technical skills or good communication will always been needed and will be hired locally.
yes, except not everyone is going to be capable of "high-skilled labor". that's why 100 IQ is the average. and it's hard to have customers if no one ever pays them
>Jobs that require high technical skills or good communication will always been needed and will be hired locally.
Tell that to Microsoft, Google and Apple.
>good communication
Call-service is like the #1 most outsourced job.
>If you don't train your replacements, they win
>Call-service
>good communication
You do know they just read a script from some web page for 90% of it, right? When I say good communication, I mean negotiating presenting and ideas with other managers and directors, not "Please turn off and on"
The exploitation of the H1B visa loophole is the main cause of this. There are companies that fired their US programmers and forced them to train their own replacements, threatening to withhold their severance packages if they refused to train the Indians.
Most of the Indian programmers are really slow and only know the bare minimum. All they are good at is following directions. As soon as they have to solve a unique problem or think outside of the box they fall on their face hard.
In fact, I have noticed that about all Asians, whether they be Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc. They may excel at studying and getting good grades, but in the real world a white autist always trumps Asian IQ when it comes to logic and problem solving.
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Even if that's true, why must these jobs go to India? Why can't these jobs go to students? Why can't you say, have these jobs reserved for university students working toward their business degree? They are looking for any way to get into the big banks and I am sure they would be glad to take these jobs at "student wages"?
Quebec is great for this at least. Because we have a big competitor to the triumvirate, we get 30%+ lower prices, and Videotron only has Quebec people as tech support, so any time I call I get service in perfect french or english and it's always resolved instantly. Their on-location tech work is also outsourced to local guys, so when I need something done at home, it's always someone I know who shows up, so I always get extra service.
Whenver I hear about how horrible ISPs and Cable provider service in the USA is, I can't help be be thankful for muh Videotron.
>How hard is it to get an job thats been outsourced from North America?
You'll be surprised by the number of companies outsourcing to India. Most of the apps you use to find gas stations, hospitals, book appointments are written here.
Most small to medium companies in the US keep the sales/marketing divisions there and move the tech stuff here.
My background is in biochemistry, when I was a student I depended on "scutt work" in university and hospital labs to get experience. These jobs don't pay well. Sometimes, PI's won't even pay you, they will just want students volunteering. I guarantee you if labs could outsource these jobs, they would. In that sense, I feel lucky that I'm not entirely affected by the outsourcing of jobs, but my younger brother is a business student and is struggling to find work. It's frustrating to see him do well in school (UofT) and struggle to find a bank that will give him a chance
CANADA BTFO
Why be such a cuck? If they want you to train your replacement, just never show up again. Let them pay someone else to train their diversity hires.
It takes time and company resources to screen resumes, conduct interviews, host on boarding sessions, and the list goes on. Also the students work 40 hrs a week. The Indian firms work all day, all night every single day.
I agree with you that would be it be a less douchy move to hire students and things like that, but I am just pointing out what one of these managers/directors would say in response to your suggestion. When they make decisions, no where in there are moral components, they just do what they can to improve the on-paper annual profitability of their specific department so they can climb up the corporate ladder.
I've actually worked at CIBC as a web developer as intern and I have seen first hand how the place it run. It's almost as rigid and inefficient as a government agency. They mostly focus on short term gains and profits.
White collar people being replaced by Indians
How does it feel faggots? You balked when the engineering and blue collared "low class" work left the country, how does it fucking feel bitches?
>Why can't these jobs go to students?
Jobs like Call-service pays on average $2 per hour, or $5k per year. Not even students can survive on that.
It's simply not a livable wage in the Western world.
I think you underestimate how many well-educated people India and China are producing, on top of all their garbage lower and mid-tier workers.
It's a simple case of population numbers. Even if only a fraction of a fraction of their population are worth a damn, they'll still outnumber Western applicants. And if they don't move to the West, they can live of next to nothing.
Even for work taking place in the West, corporations import cheap labor under temporary Visas, and just swap in new batches of workers when the Visas expire, to keep wages artificially low.
>If they want you to train your replacement, just never show up again
How old are you?
Pretty soon we will have to move to indian to be slaves.
>Why be such a cuck?
No severance package, which is what people usually use to survive until their next job since it's getting nigh impossible to get unemployment pay anymore.
My mum's workplace closed down, she's 62 and has been working uninterrupted since she was 16. Even when she had kids she never took more than a week off.
When she went to ask for unemployment while looking for a new job, the guy at the counter told her "Mam, we aren't her to pay you to not work".
>America, be thankful Trump cares about your jobs.
I am, but strangely, the rest of the world is mad at him.
I don't understand why, I think the rest of the world has gone mad.
This. Form a union and tell them to fuck off or something
>average $2 per hour, or $5k per year.
meant to write maximum, not average. Average is far lower.
>How do we free Canada from the grasp of jews
What do Canadian banks have to do with Jews, ffs?
>>nowhere are there moral components
Yea that's the problem, wonderful world we create when the only thing that matters is maximizing profit at societies expense. Yay capitalism!
Americans wanting job is racist, are you Hitler?
>Bernier better be /ourfuckingguy/
This is happening to a lot of people. Disney did it too. I'm honestly quite surprised that some pissed off dude who lost his job hasn't bombed a building yet over this.
>I'm honestly quite surprised that some pissed off dude who lost his job hasn't bombed a building yet over this.
Welfare was made to keep people from crossing that line of desperation. Keeps them content, though not necessarily happy.
Seriously, if I was forced to do something I'm not legally obligated to do at my job before they fire me I'd make my replacements as inferior and incompetent at my job as possible.
>Sadly, Canadians don't yet strike me as angry French revolutionaries.
If it comes to that I hope we skip the reign of terror bit and just go full Napoleon.
Yeah it's way better when the government controls labor and there are shortages of everything and everyone is dirt poor and slowly starving to death. Give us socialism damn it!
>strawman: the post
Obviously since user doesn't believe in a pure cutthroat capitalism, he supports authoritarian socialism
>rest of world benefits from bleeding America dry
>trump says no
>world mad
rly mks u thk
>training indians
even when you train them right they fuck everything up
>t. business analyst in IT
Is that legal? I realize that this sort of thing may be legal in many places.
How wonderfully tolerant! Trudeau should outsource ALL canadian jobs, even his own, to the third world to finally rectify the evils of western imperialism.
no, it's not legal and I find it VERY hard to believe this happened at an Employment Insurance office.
They'll just have you sign the paperwork and get on with it.
There comes a point in capitalism where you begin stepping on so many peoples toes that they rise up and cut your throat. The global divide and conquer tactics in humanity are only going to last so long until enough momentum is built and people in Asia start realizing they're getting fucked over too and taken advantage of by your traditional capitalist elites, like the banking exec's, that have the most to gain from this. Literally very short sighted thinking the elitist capitalist class can just move onto another country and assume just because they have shit IQ that they wont rebel like white people. If anything outsourcing is encouraging the western people to tell Asia to rise up against the uncalled for capitalist slavery shit that we're all the experts of here in the west
>They'll just have you sign the paperwork and get on with it.
Haha, you've never had to use unemployment or social security I see.
I've never used them, but my brother spent most of his life using them, going between short stints of work to unemployment to social security then back to work.
They'll do everything they possibly can to not pay you, to pay you as little as possible, to have you reimburse as much as possible if they ever feel like they paid you too much or shouldn't have paid you.
It seems like they're operating under directions to be as aggravating as possible to get people off the programs.