Why are we going to pretend that men can't be terrible in relationships?

Why are we going to pretend that men can't be terrible in relationships?

I'm not saying women these days aren't fucking terrible either, but virgin women getting paired up by a deceivingly nice dudes isn't a common occurrence is rather stupid.

Men sleeping and being “alpha” and getting harems is a celebrated just as much as modern women celebrate being “ sexually free”.

I say the problem lies in humans in general are mostly dicks and there are less chances for decent ones to meet up together than decent ones being paried up with asswholes or bitches. But it’s so easy to pick sides and point the fingers at the other.

When did Sup Forums become a male space safe haven? Just because bitches are being bitches? Let's not pretend shitty guys didn't help create this problem either.

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Men own everything.

Women are leeches. The moment they got rights is the moment the society became decadent.

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If this is the case then why in the fuck is Sup Forums not backing islam?

I have a big feeling white nationalist wouldn't have any problem with that religion if was dominated by whites instead of shitskins...it pracitcally perfect for them.

Picking sides and pointing fingers is the defacto nature of the human ape - we are utterly tribal creatures, 10 measly millenia didn't put a dent on social reflexes and cognitive biases that evolved on a far longer evolutionary scale.

You'd think a species of animal that can surpass natural biological functions would have gotten beyond this by now.

Tribal thinking is the very definition of being an animal.

In the mean time the people who have are the one pulling the strings, running bilion dollar companies, and rulling nations.

>Sup Forums not backing islam?

I am actually neutral about it except when they plot my death, clearly.

The average muslim is closer to my values than the average european.

I would obviously prefer a traditional European country, but hey, I do want a normal family.

If I have to convert to Islam to have it, so be it.
>can surpass natural biological functions

Because you can stop eating, drinking and socializing without consequences, right?

The issue is more that "alpha" men are sleeping around with as many women as they can.

While "alpha" women are sleeping with one "alpha" guy, using a beta as an emotional tampon and then using another beta as an ATM without letting him know about the other two.

To be honest, the whole thing is going to fall apart soon enough. Sexual liberation turns the best men into pump'n'dump machines and the women into manipulating whores. So eventually all the beta men will notice that there's no hope of them getting married, so they'll stop working hard. They might just get a comfy job, work a few hours a week and get just enough money to cover expenses/vidya.

It's happening right now. Look at japan. Hell, look at the US. Even Brazil is getting there, despite being a lot more like a jungle. Young men are simply not interacting that well with society. Why? Because they don't expect to get married and have children in the future.

>Why are we going to pretend that men can't be terrible in relationships?
>"heres a strawman"
heres a egas

middle easteners are still traditionalist, that's something we value, but they're our enemies, Islam is a sand religion, it always will be just like european culture will always be white

> surpass natural biological function

There is no surpassing biological function, because that would mean surpassing biochemical, chemical and physical functions - the very fabric of reality.
We are at the mercy of our genetic and memetic-cultural coding and the laws of the universe - as far as they can perceived by us - allows to continue in only one direction.

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>You'd think a species of animal that can surpass natural biological functions would have gotten beyond this by now.

Yeah and we pretty much had made good progress here, marriage was acknowledged by law and society and spitting on others despised.

It's very easy to regress back to your primitive forms though. They're working underneath and you can always come back to them. Happens itself - something often called degeneration.

What are you talking about? We know men can be awful, the whole fucking world knows it. That's why women have all these support groups for it. It is already an acknowledged fact internationally. WE just try to acknowledge that women can be terrible and usually are to some degree, while there is no reference book out there for men on how to deal with these things. We either figure it out ourselves or just way fuck it and move on.

Yeah because only choice is Islam right, retard? The 50s was almost perfect.

ITT: Supreme Gentlemen who have always been repulsive to women get mad when a decent person points out reality.

Sup Forums you really are a bunch of weak, unemployed beta cucks. That's why you love to insult others masculinity and call them cucks, because you know that's what you are, and that's what you consider an insult.

Sup Forums is the biggest circlejerks of emasculated beta cucks in the world. It is obvious why no women want you, and would rather fuck niggers than you.

To be fair, embracing Islam would be easier than reverting society to the 50s.

>Sup Forums
>one of the most viewed boards on Sup Forums,a site with 22000000 regular users
>this individual knows every single one of us, what we think and why we do what we do

Are you God?

>To be fair, embracing Islam would be easier than reverting society to the 50s.
It would also be fucking stupid

What we need is Christianity to be powerful and respected again. The vatican has been poisoned by marxism for ages.

Post tits or gtfo

Problem is, when we get a Liberal Pope, we get one that kisses nigger feet
When we get a Conservative Pope, he is surrounded by paedophilia scandal.

I honestly feel this a natural cultural thing that happens to first world country over time. The smatera society gets the more individual they get as well.

I have no interest at all in having kids or having a wife. My “kids” are all the people that work for me and my “wife” is my second in command. They are making my life plenty enough busy...the fuck would I add more stress in my life for? Just to fulfill some primal lizard brain urge to spread my seed? Please.

This is why traditionalism will never win. We don't live in a world now where you can rape and pillage some village and push your beliefs on them. So what do you do? You compromise and realize that you're fighting the same battle. This is something the feminazi at least understand and is why they are baking islam despite their views.

Also thats tribal thinking and primal. I don't view that as a rational process of thinking to solving issues.

Degenration in that regard is subjective. You can easily paint the ideals of white nationalist as degenration for "presevering thier race" since that's a primal and tribal mentaility which is primitive, but its not like I don't get what you mean. I'm just saying radical leftist view going back to the 50s as "degeration" in thier own minds.


Going back to the 50s is never happening. Once a society has chosen "freedom" reverting back to traditional ways would take force.

And society doesn't allow hostile takeovers of nations anymore.

>Also thats tribal thinking and primal. I don't view that as a rational process of thinking to solving issues.

The thing is, with some people you just know they haven't progressed and they aren't willing to compromise on their behalf. Also we might hit a limit at some point where you should stay for a bit longer to see if further change is actually good.

If the end result is bad for europeans as a group, then it shouldn't be advocated. If it is, it makes sense to advocate the method to get there.

What we don't like is getting cooked like the frog in the water. If you always crompromise you lose. This is not really a very rational or logic way of proceeding either, but it's how most of the recent "progress" has been pushed into society at large.

if it is good*

and good in real terms and not in theory

>The issue is more that "alpha" men are sleeping around with as many women as they can.

No, it's that women were made to believe that in the name of women's rights and sexual freedom, they should act like men, and that all men act like alpha men.

But they don't. Most men have very few sexual partners. More than 10% of men die virgins. The number of high-success men with high desirability is much lower than that.

And those men are highly promiscuous because to achieve high success usually requires a large time and effort investment that precludes steady relationship... though it also results in throw-away relationships being offered to you constantly.

So now "all" women are action like a minuscule fraction of men because Feminists believe those men represent the majority.

This leads to the majority of men, who only have a few relations through their lives and mostly want a long lasting one can only get dregs who've been fucked by a million dicks or nothing at all.

Legit point. I see what your saying, but I feel its also important to realize when your losing a battle too.

>Degenration in that regard is subjective. You can easily paint the ideals of white nationalist as degenration for "presevering thier race" since that's a primal and tribal mentaility which is primitive, but its not like I don't get what you mean. I'm just saying radical leftist view going back to the 50s as "degeration" in thier own minds.

Who cares? Many pedophiles see nothing wrong with pedophilia. If you stop having opinions because they are subjective you might as well shoot yourself in the head.

>Going back to the 50s is never happening. Once a society has chosen "freedom" reverting back to traditional ways would take force.

Except you never took a political science class apparently.

Democracies that are richer than a certain level (8000 dollars per capita in a year and higher if I rember correctly) don't become dictatorships. It just never happened. Poor democracies often become dictatorships. It's not the freedom, or at least not only that.