I'd like to talk about Irish Nationalism and Ireland in general, Sup Forums
Now I know many of the other brits will be in here to confirm that Ireland is rightful anglo clay or that everyone will confirm that they are the niggers of Europe, but I think there may be merits to the idea of being "proud to be irish." However, Irish nationalism seems to be very leftish. How can we lean them further to the right? Is there a history of any right wing or general non commie leaders or soldiers?
Collins seemed like a redpilled dude. Either way. How do we handle the bog problem?
It is my opinion that they did earn their freedom but I do not blame England of the past for going there. Why wouldn't they? An emerging power will always seek to expand over land which they believe will be fruitful or offer little resistance.
I only wish ireland could have a frienemy situation like England and France sort of have, the kind of "yeah we fought a bunch in the past but let's be pals" but unfortunately that will never happen because of Northern Ireland.
Bentley Sanchez
Being an Irish nationalist to me does not mean I want to go to war and bring back the troubles. What's done is done and I'd rather see the UK as a strong ally now. With Brexit happening, I don't want to return to a hard border because I know it could only fuck up relations and trade.
Gabriel Hill
>Is there a history of any right wing or general non commie leaders or soldiers?
Pearse, the leaders of the 1916 rising envisioned an Irish ethno-state they were right wing but got executed by the Brits. Blueshirts O'Duffy would have been friends of Mosley I'd think. Collins.
Basically the left wing thing is bollocks peddled by Anglos in the north to keep them voting DUP (hurr if you vote nationalist you'll get immigrants). Irish had hardly any non-white till early 00s unfortunately like all of cuck West and the EU some of the cancer has spread. But Irish have never voted left.
Wyatt Brooks
You literally must take Northern Ireland back.It's called Northern IRELAND for a reason.
France can't occupy part of England and call it Northern England
Juan Sanchez
Irish Americans should promote Irish interests much more like Jews have AIPAC and Zionist lobbies in USA. Most Irish live in USA,and some of them have money and influence they should help Ireland.
Juan Flores
What? Do you mean give it to ROI? That will probably happen on it's own. The British loyalists there are generally all retarded and the Irish obsess over the border. Unionist politics are fucked and every time unionists vote the same party in to keep republicans out, the republicans grow in number. We promised to release it but only when the people voted,
Henry Turner
Ireland will eventually be united again. It's going to be under Muslim rule when that happens, though.
Have you read the story that Erie was a grandchild of Noah? It's a mix of Christian and Irish trad. mythology, pretty sweet imo.
Also Catholicism is the only denomination needed.
Dylan Morales
Ireland in future can reject Westminster and Brussels at same time.
Eli Parker
i would gladly move to ireland if they uncucked themselves but for now its a socialist hellhole
John Perry
You're right. Our buses are on strike atm and we see the socialist wasters come out of their jobless hole in support. I want to get rid of them all
Austin Hall
Catholicism needs to be outlawed it's paganism and blasphemous
Connor Scott
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Zachary Fisher
Collins and Griffith were red-pilled dudes. Collins wanted Canada style independence and to maintain close political and economic ties with Britain. Shame ole dev went and fucked everything up on us the theocratic yank cunt. Fucking yanks coming over here ruining everything.
Benjamin Evans
Canada isn't independent you dumb cunt We are a proud member of the British Commonwealth and have not severed our ties with Britain and kept HM Queen Elizabeth II on the throne as Queen of Canada. Irish niggers are retarded
maybe you should get rid of 2/3rds of the new testament too then ay?
Justin Barnes
What an insufferable voice and cadence No hope for this young hobbit to succeed
Sebastian Hill
Why would I do that?
Jacob Barnes
Is IRA active today?
Liam Johnson
Assume you mean Eire? Modern Irish Gaels are descendents of the 400BC Milesian migration. We killed Eire's people and conquered Ireland, but she was a qt so we renamed the island in her honour. Saying that, we were related to them anyway. Irish are funny like that. Fur Bolg > Tuatha > Milesians, in that order.
Caleb Perez
It's written by Paul
Carson Hughes
Paul isn't a Catholic
Ethan Clark
listen er u prody fuck
ill shank yer nan wit a siv u madboy
>killkenny boys dont fuk around
Aiden Moore
it is really funny how different traditions were adopted and incorporated. first thing that popped up for Fur Bolg was some WOW stuff kek
Jesus wasn't a Christian, it's true but I think you understand what I mean. He took the Word to Rome, which eventually turned into the Holy Apostolic Church.
Jaxon Stewart
About 7 years ago or so I was playing a game of Worms on the 360.
I heard the dudes accent and I asked him if he was from Irish. He said I'm from Northern Ireland.
>doesn't that still make you Irish >no, I'm British >continues on rant on how he hates the Irish and how he loves when William Wallace screams like the pussy fagot he was. >I say he was screaming freedom and he was Scottish I thought >keeps explaining how he hates the Irish
Chance of unification of Ireland and Northern Ireland: 0.01 %
Ryder Sanders
When Paul lived the Catholic blapshemous concept of a trinity did not exist, it was invented by Constantine in the 4th century.
Catholics think the law is abolished, that's why they're drunkards, get tattoos, fornicate and worship idols. Paul defended the law!
Isaac Foster
They will be unified under this banner, God willing
Bentley Gutierrez
Didn't a bunch of fenians memeraid the shit out of you, kill some british and the canadian civilians didn't even mind?
Actually, it is very likely. The unionist attitude toward nationalists is very patronising and they act as if they came out of the Troubles with clean hands. They have voted DUP into power constantly as it "keeps sinn fein at bay" when in reality the DUP are corrupt and stupid as shit. Instead of voting for good parties, they just throw votes at the DUP which isolates other unionists and has now lead to unionists and on the fence people transferring votes to nationalist parties.
Essentially, unless unionists start being a lot more level headed and logical, they are fucked. And seeing as they have now adopted the status of "dindu nuffin" and "we wuz ancient british" their fate is sealed.
There is simply no outcome where they win. If DUP pull a 180 to save themselves they will lose votes to the TUV and split unionist vote more. If they don't do a 180 they will lose votes to other less extreme parties and even to nationalists, fucking up the unionist vote again.
Nationalists currently hold a majority of seats, for fucks sake.
Easton Jackson
You always were a beta traitor Canada
Jason Anderson
I'd be perfectly okay with ROI if they didn't have a land-grab obsession with NI.
Liam Gray
Traitor how? Because I love my God, Queen and Country? I would be hanged before I betray HM
Matthew King
>Essentially, unless unionists start being a lot more level headed and logical, they are fucked
>Implying independence/separation movements are ever level-headed
99% of the time it just comes down to "MUH INDEPENDENCE"
Aaron Phillips
>ROI >Caring about NI
It's not really an issue. That being said, of course they want NI. It's ireland. The reasons for NI existing don't even apply anymore since the people in NI aren't even really protestant, they just support rangers, love the 12th and hate '''catholics'''
NI is a drain on the UK and would suffocate and die alone, nobody really wants it. The UK only really want it because muh pride but the reality is that the average brit doesn't even think about NI.
We'll lose it eventually.
Connor Hall
Actually it's a lot more level headed on their side, even if for the wrong reasons. Issues with the EU, preferral of all ireland agricultural trade and generally looking for an unfractured irish identity, etc
Unionism boils down to "keep fenians out" while Nationalism seems to just be carrying on with it and watching unionists get more and more triggered.
You get the faggy liberals acting all smug about the more retarded loyalist movements but the real facts here are that the younger generation know the truth about the Troubles because more and more information is released. All of a sudden Loyalists aren't the good guys any more, and people are leaning to the fenian side.
Look at the election results. >unionists get cucked >GIVE DIRECT RULE NOW
what a shambles.
Nathaniel Carter
>We'll lose it eventually. Of course we will. The GFA agreement was an unconditional surrender to the IRA and will inevitably lead to NI joining ROI.
The GFA is the worst political decision to be made by the UK government since at least WW2.
John Lopez
I'm not really sure what our other options were, lad. Think about it.
>Keep fighting the IRA, fuck up Belfast even more, let more of our men day and risk further armed conflict/an absolute PR disaster at innocent irish shitters being left at the hands of RUC or UVF >Give NI to the south, cucking us entirelt and likely risking loyalist violence
GFA was tragic, but the only viable move.
Lincoln Brooks
The fact of the matter was that the UK deployed troops on it's sovereign territory to fight a force that targeted people of that country.
It then withdrew it's forces, stop flying it's flag, release some of the enemy from prison, didn't oversee a proper disarming of the enemy, and imposed legislation that literally put the enemy in your regional assembly.
We were only forced to the GFA because of pressure from the Americans. If we had actual support, not token support, from the ROI and the USA, the IRA would have waned and lost support.
With support from the ROI and USA we absolutely would have had the means to at least reduce the IRA to a marginal force.
I know it's easy to speak of violence when you're not involved, but continued violence would have been preferable to peace on the terms of the IRA, which is what we got. Appeasement is almost never preferable to war.
Nathan Cooper
>asskissing a foreign nation's queen We already know you're a pussy-whipped cuck from your flag, no need to make it even more obvious by telling us.
Jaxson Flores
She's is just as much the queen of Canada as she is the queen of the UK
Are you going to give me shit for being subversive to the Queen of Canada, in your words "asskissing a foreign nation's queen"
Ian Howard
tiocfaidh ár lá
Lucas Lewis
I wish Irish Nationalism would draw on the more distant past instead of just 1916 worship
Michael Collins wrote pretty extensively about how Ireland needed to remain ethnically and culturally homogenous because without a string military or industrial sector, culture is all we have.
He was an incredibly intelligent man and it's a shame recent Irish nationalists seem to ignore him in favour of milquetoast civic "nationalism".
Nathaniel Wilson
I dunno, without an effective way to deal with the irish population in NI there was always gonna be issues. The Troubles happened because the people of NI we gave powers to proved to be too autistic to deal with the fact that irish people live in NI, because of the abritrary and artificial nature of the province.
If I am being honest, I think we should have all of Ireland or none of it. NI isn't a bastion like Gibralter or whatever, it's a sectarian backwater that contributes fuck all now.
Ideally, the conflict never happened and Irish people were given the rights they tried to get peacefully and none of it ever happened, but of course that was never gonna happen.
Paisley and the DUP set the scene and the IRA took their shot. It could have gone a lot worse. If it was as publically discussed that we helped the RUC and by extension the paramilitaries as much as people discuss "muh IRA" we'd lose NI even faster tbqh
William Gomez
GOD SAVE OUR GRACIOUS QUEEN AND HEAVEN BLESS THE MAPLE LEAF FOREVER Canada is Anglo Australia is Anglo New Zealand is Anglo Britain is Anglo Why should we not share the same monarchy? We are all the same people
Cameron Martinez
stop speaking arabic
Brody Fisher
I have immense respect for him. Even sean lemass, one of Ireland's greatest Taoiseachs, stated that a lot of his work was inspired by Collins.
It is easy to reduce Collins down to simple military prowess, but the man laid out plans to revitalise an Irish Identity and culture that would ensure they wouldn't be wiped from existence like they almost were before when they were essentially west westbrits. A Collins Ireland and Britain would have probably worked very well together.
Carter Gray
Also tfw Scotland retained their traditional dress in some form and we didn't
Gabriel Collins
The concept of a trinity existed it just wasn't part of Christendom. Those sins aren't because of religious beliefs they are part of being human, being tarnished and imperfect. I don't think Christianity would be what it is or was without Catholicism spreading the Word. It wasn't the first church (Christianity apparently spread to N. Africa and Ethiopia first) but it was the earliest prominent one.
Anthony Bennett
Cuck-nadian! Have some pride in yourself and your country.
Jaxon Williams
Ireland didn't fight alongside Britain at the right times to get their own traditional dress translated into modern times. Irish soldiers in british armies were still essentially redcoats, and oly a century after that they weren't british any more.
Irish have had some sickass uniforms though. Gallowglass so pretty
James Peterson
Have a better Harp.
Samuel Rodriguez
>tara
Ah yes, where a few hundred irish soldiers dispatched several thousand strong norse army from dublin.
Truly, the only person more BTO in ireland than us faggots is those scandinavian niggers
Oliver Myers
I think you're all underestimating how violent us Northern Irish will become with any sort of united ireland talk or ideas. 100% it will result in civil war.
Oliver Myers
No it won't, you retard. Gangland-tier warfare in Belfast at the absolute worst.
Loyalist paras in NI are already splintered to shit and plagued by fueds. Any sort of group big enough to mount a campaign would be riddled with infighting. They would not have the support of the police force or the british, either, and if you check the last time loyalists tried to form a paramilitary you'll notice that they killed almost exclusively civilians and barely managed to lay a finger on any militant republicans.
Any loyalists who "rise up" will be immediately classed as terrorists by absolutely everyone and swiftly dealt with because we aren't in the fucking 70s anymore. There would probably be some republican niggers trying to combat them but again, gang warfare at worst.
There won't be a fucking civil war. What a stupid notion.
Robert Morales
We got these at least
I want to learn to play the pipes but a decent set is like £500
Jayden Harris
Thank you ireland for the genes
Dominic Ward
I think Ireland might be too distant from the continent to feel what is going on. It's unclear to them who they are defending against. And can they really trust the English as an ally?
I'll say this, the Irish who fought in the American Civil War had no trouble relating to both sides of the conflict.
50% Irish 50% egyptian(Protestan don't worry) 100% untermensch Still proud of my heritage though. Most normies think being Egyptian is based. If only they knew..
Charles Sanchez
I remember seeing a post on here or on /his/ from some faggot claiming ulster protestants predated catholicism or some absolutely mad shit. that and that ulster people wuz ancient africans or something.
Benjamin Williams
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Evan Cox
Considering the Protestant reformation was a direct response to Catholicism, I would say my nog is currently jogged
>there were no humans on ireland until catholics went there >at some point people arrived in the north but they were not catholic which is why 'rome didn't go there' >people in ulster were protestant and pro british before england even existed >ulster protestants were ACTUALLY irish pagans at the time of the protestant reformation but definitely were never catholic
Jaxon Jackson
WE
Austin Murphy
That might be the most autistic thing i've heard on this site, and thats a long list
Evan Bennett
Trust me, laughs wee had. I'm trying to remember the other shit he said bt it was all a shitshow. At one point he said
>just wait till /britpol/ get here and they'll show you
absolute bants
Justin Lopez
We'll we wuz kangs and shit so he's probably right
Oliver Martin
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Ryan Flores
>Nationalists currently hold a majority of seats, for fucks sake. Wrong Unionist 40 seats Nationalist 39 seats
Wyatt Taylor
You're right, I keep getting mixed up. NI politics is wierd. I think the main point was that DUP took a massive hit hile sinn fein stayed pretty much the same, right?
