Should art be protected under freedom of speech at all costs?

Should art be protected under freedom of speech at all costs?

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Yep

depends on the "art"

Why is Western drawn porn so damn bad?
You'd thibk it would be better, considering how much money goes into it, and the sheer size of the West

Guy draws art depicting children having sexual relations with adults and other children? nope

Sorry, the dude is talented and he's a pretty good artist, but child porn is degeneracy.

All art should be legal.

It's all legal or none of it is. It's freedom of speech not Feels of Speech.

Not for shad. That dude is annoying af on top of his art being vulgar, gay as fuck, and overall degenerate. Shadman can rot imo sempai.

the loli shit is fine, but didn't this fucker unironically draw questionable art of his own fucking daughter?

No, that was the daughter of some democrat blogger during the election or something. he didn't want to do it but lost a dare.

Shad has no children, he's a pretty young guy.

When he was still small-time he drew a naked picture of his mom. That's probably what you're thinking of.

Am I supposed to know what this is about. Why the fuck is your OP so goddamn vague. Learn how to start a thread you goddamn retard

hahahahaha holy shit, it was probably his Logan shit.

Based Shad. The hero we don't need, but deserve anyways.

You're not an American, you're a fucking cuckold literally asking for government tyranny and censorship of what you don't like. Go back to Sweden, where you belong.

>only porn I don't like is degeneracy
Nice selective bias there faggot.

>American
>Doesn't believe in free speech
>Believes CARTOONS should be banned
Go back to wherever you came from, scum

>It's all legal or none of it is
this is so fucking stupid

If you can clearly define what is and isn't art, sure.

The government is expending resources to prosecute a guy's drawn porn.

Fuck my life.

Drawings aren't chpo. They're fucking drawings. They're recreations of mental fantasies. It's a sick society when the incentives are for LE to go after fucking Shadman as opposed to actual criminals.

Keemstar's kid, nothing sexual but even so the loli shit is pushing it, normalizing pornographic images of children (regardless of them being real children or not) isn't ok.

First it'll be the loli shit

Then it'll be child pornography.

It isn't right to show children in any type of sexual light due to the fact that children are still developing cognitively and are unable to make informed choices responsibly, and the poor choices that they may make could fuck up their lives forever.

I feel like letting this garbage be legal is the first step towards legalizing shit like pedophilia.

>freedom to show kids fucking
>its still freedom so fuck you

this is why you have so many problems

>muh rights for 2d drawings
>meanwhile child beauty pageants exist
learn your priorities retard

You don't deserve freedom.

When you give someone the power to censor, regardless of how righteous the initial person granted the position, it will inevitably grow corrupt or be usurped by the wicked.

hopefully he gets slapped around a bit, maybe kneecapped, but idk about jail.

I swear to fucking God you better be joking. I'm going to punch you.

>Muh slippery slope
Hey here's an idea.
Maybe if pedos have access to legal drawn porn that in no way harms children they'll be less likely to support live action porn, meaning less children will be harmed because demand drops.

And don't give me that "they shouldn't be looking at any of this sort of material".
You try not looking at porn, I bet you couldn't last a month let alone a lifetime.
And does watching porn make you more or less likely to do the real thing? Less, obviously

All porn should be banned tbqh. And pedos should be hung.

>Loli banned in UK
>Rape gangs targetting children every corner

>Loli legal in Japan
>No pedo rape gangs roaming every corner

Entartete Kunst needs to be banned

This is my only issue with censoring any type of art, regardless of how shitty and disgusting it might be.

my thoughts are with good intentions, just like people who want to protect the arts, but eventually it will go down a dark and fucked up road.

Either way it goes, we're fucked probably.

Maybe if pedos were killed on sight less children would be hurt.

what did shad draw that he got sued over?

500 kids have disapeared since December in DC. the govt. should focus on that.

As long as they're not tracing off of legit CP, there shouldn't be an issue. It's a drawing, it doesn't have feelings or rights that can be violated.

My form of art is killing you.

Still for all art being legal?

If it's not real it shouldn't be illegal.

I don't go to prison for going on a murdering spree in a GTA game, because obviously real people are not being killed.
Why should someone go to prison for pictures that do not depict real kids? They're not real and no one is being abused or harmed.

The point should be stopping and discouraging the motives and thoughts behind it.

You shouldn't allow people with violent tendencies to simulate killing or beating someone.

Deterrence is in the long run infinitely more effective than displacement.

Destiny took down Shad after he drew defamatory pictures of him.

Everything

>drawings should be illegal
For what purpose?

How exactly would a form of art kill you? Someone frame their painting then beat you with it? cry moar

The problem is that pedos arise naturally out of our visual scanning systems. We look for paedomorphic features in our partners. We have the lowest difference between child skulls and adult skulls among the primates.

>If it's not hurting someone immediately it should be legal!

Polluting is illegal. Porn, fagotry, and degenerate art should be in the same way. It corrupts society and causes long term ills.

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But when people with violent tendencies play violent video games their violence decreases.
Dumbass

>drawings is pedophilia
>shadman is talented

burger, I...

performance art, don't get me wrong, it's faggy shit, but according to all these "art majors" and "art experts" it's art.

>wanting the once noble white man to spend his days jerking his dick to loli instead of going out and finding a wife

good goy

are you going to murder that strawman with some goalposts while you're at it

D':

RIP

>It's a sick society when the incentives are for LE to go after fucking Shadman as opposed to actual criminals.
The vast majority of the time, it's an attempt to justify their resource spending.

>See! We're making good use of our money! We caught this guy making sick cartoon fantasies!
>w-wha? Oh, sorry no, we have not caught any actual child molesters yet...but we will!

>the dude is talented and he's a pretty good artist
Wrong!

Yes I am totally projecting

Pretty much every study suggests the opposite of what you are claiming. People who view stuff like lolis and 2D are significantly less likely to actually abuse a child.

If you need an example, in the UK 2D kids are illegal and treated as serious as the real thing. 14 in 100,000 kids are abused in the UK.
In Japan 2D is entirely legal and most people don't even see it as bad. 1.7 in 100,000 kids are abused in Japan.

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how is that either of those falacies.

you: all art should be legal or none shoudl be
me: my performance art of killing you symoblises the plight of the african in america

no falacies here buddy

>Should art be protected under freedom of speech at all costs?

US needs to follow the based example of Canada and the UK and start to punish hate speech, including art.

Hate speech aimed at Jews, Muslims and women cannot be permitted in a civilized society. Such speech leads to violence (emotional and physical), and as such it must be criminalized. This is perfectly consistent with the First Amendment, by the way, which says nothing about protecting hate speech.

Nor should artists get a free pass on this front.

That said, if this shad character is encouraging a reasonable and tender exploring of budding sexual feelings, there's nothing wrong with that, ever. In fact, that's a beautiful thing. Not surprised, however, that the puritanical US govt is cracking down on him for that.

But a change is coming. Fifties morality is dead. The law is catching up. Gay scenes in Disney kids movies -- beautiful. More kids see gay role models, and they experiment and become gay, or trans.

Fuck Drumpf and fuck white people.

You're a fucking retard and I don't even have to explain why.

As long as you find a wife and have white children, jerk it to whatever you want

Yeah that's totally going to happen in a western country.
Or any country that has justice.

>It's a sick society when the incentives are for LE to go after fucking Shadman

It's a sick society that allows fucks like you and that faggot to go around profiting off of the fetishization of children.

NO MORE

By what standards? If I was going to compare him to ACTUAL artists, then yeah he's garbage.

But for a guy doing it as a hobby doing his own weird porn thing, I can get behind it on a personal level.

Ok, so what government body decides what is "good" art and "bad" art?

SAVE SHADMAN!HOW ELSE CAN I JERKOFF TO HOT LESBIAN NAZI CARTOON PORN!

>People unironically think you should be arrested for cartoons

This.

Freedom of speech is allowed in all cases except those where it's hatespeech or presents a "clear and present danger".

Something can't be censored just because you deem it degenerate, otherwise /pol wouldn't be here.

>mfw its been nothing but nig shit for the past few months so it doesnt bother me

By this logic we should be letting murderers pretend to kill people instead of trying to stop the inherent problems within them. This is not a long term solution. These people are still fucked in the head and what are you going to do if your perfect method happens to fail? Just let that molested child know that it was an outlier who went off your set path?

>wanting to ban cartoons

go back to islamistan you filthy terror nigger

blow yourself up in the name of your sand god

> are significantly less likely to actually abuse a child.

[citation]

Also any forms of anime breed degeneracy.

Why do you hate the free market
Are you some kind of communist?

How much you wanna bet it was because of the little bronze girl statue?

This guy drew a porno cartoon about a 12 year old youtuber LtCorbis

Sick, disgusting cunt.

No art should be banned.

What we shouldn't do is have the government fund artists making liberal propaganda or literal shit for projects that are probably scams in the first place.

>By this logic we should be letting murderers pretend to kill people

rather ban violent vidya or what?

Serves him right for being such a monetizing paywalling mountain jew, I guess Blizzard didn't liked how Shadman lined his pockets by drawing child versions of their characters getting pregnant.

That is explicitly infringing on me.
Pixels don;t get infringed on.

Japan has notably lower testosterone than white people, shit comparison. Find me two nations of the same race.

There's a lot of other factors in that.

>People unironically think pedophiles and pedoartists shouldn't be gunned down on sight

I read once that you're not allowed to draw it if it's based on a real kid. It's probably barely illegal, but probably in place just to get them to stop doing it.

How the fuck does anime foster degeneracy? I can agree if you're limiting it to hentai, as that can be extremely degenerate

Studies have proven time and time again as violent video games become more popular, violent crime decreases.

Someone is not a murderer until they actually kill someone. If they're taking out their anger in a video game instead of shooting up a school, what the fuck is the problem?

are we going to throw kids in jail for first-degree murder when they pull the head off an action figure

this is the argument you're making

You're going to the gas chamber, pedo

No, it was most likely Logan and Dafne Keen. She's a qtp2t btw.

>Pixels don;t get infringed on.

Then how can they die?

Checkm80

It's not my logic.
It's the truth and has been proven time and time again by scientists.
You can't make someone stop being a pedo, it just doesn't work, we do not have a magical technology that allows us to rewire a person's brain and DNA.
Just like how shocking faggots doesn't turn them straight, it just makes them pretend to be straight for a little while to make the shocking stop

>pedovision is real now
wew, where can I get this technology?

Im about to punch him too. That made me rage

You have not defined art.

Sticking campbells soup into your vagina is considered art by the far left.

His example really isn't that far off.

I haven't watched porn for almost 2 years you degenerate

Unlikely

>freedom to show illustrated kids fucking

Fixed that for you, retard.

>Japan has lolis
>Very low child rape
>UK has it banned
>Child sex rings everywhere

oh gosh

Go search for it, shit's not hard.

Also if you were really bothered about degeneracy, you wouldn't be visiting Sup Forums. Infact, you wouldn't even be using the internet.
Go live in some religious community in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, farming and praying to god for a living. Until you're living this kind of lifestyle shut the fuck up about MUH DEGENERACY because you're a fucking hypocrite.

is it already not protected?

I'm surprised it's even managed to take this long to be honest. But in all seriousness obscenity should be protected under freedom of speech. Art is art, as long as nobody is exploited or abused to create it then there should be no crime. Degeneracy or slippery slope fallacy don't make for sufficient reasons to ban certain kinds of art.

Why did this dumbass move to California in the first place?

>this thread
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