I'm not trying to troll but why doesn't the USA have a high speed train?
Asia has the bullet trains
Europe has the TGV,Eurostar ect
even Africa is getting a line soon.
Why is the USA so bent on non issues as transgender defication rights instead of actually building stuff to advance the nation?
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>even Africa is getting a line soon.
Most of the European invested African infrastructure plans have failed to this point because the rich Africans are corrupt and the poor Africans have no work ethic.
Don't think they're getting a rail.
Also, the two main answer are:
>1: We may be building hyperloops instead, if they're problems aren't as retarded as they sound on paper
>2: We actually have some cheap airlines(believe it or not, but ask an American anything about price and it'll be nothing but bitching from these degenerate jobless NEETs) and many people just take roadtrips to get where they need to go
>Why is the USA so bent on non issues as transgender defication rights instead of actually building stuff to advance the nation?
A story for another thread my friend. We certainly didn't get the future we thought we were getting.
Honestly good question. There's been tons of proposals but no building. We had on where I live along the i81 corridor that proposed connection lines from NY, Philly, DC, Charlotte maybe even all the way to Florida.
Was really stoked about being able to go from rural farmland where I live to the capital in half an hour or even NY/NJ in two..
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they don't need gay trains when they can just fly with a plane which is in every way superior to smelly trains.
trains are for niggers and poorfags.
Planes and rental cars are for the rich handsome white people.
There are very few lines throughout the world that are self sustaining. Americans don't want to subsidise yet another form of public transportation when most drive wherever they need to go. Building a high speed line is another form of virtue signaling at this point, so you may see some pop up in the more liberal areas of the country.
The CIA can't remote control trains into NYC skyscrapers
Because, America is all red tape. Secondly the train tracks needed for such high speed rails aren't even priority for passenger service. Sure you could put bullet trains on them, but they would be stuck behind freight trains that have right of way since those train company's own the rails. If we wanted high speed rail we'd have to build all new rail lines. Not impossible, but you know how this country works. Red tape and all.
Because government and retarded priorities.
Republicans in Congress are too much of faggots to want high speed rails. Democrats are too concerned with micro issues like transgender bathrooms.
We use planes for people, rails for goods
Suburbs and a spread-out population mean high-speed rail really only makes sense in the Northeast, otherwise regional airports and interstate highways are sufficient. Also, major infrastructure projects in this country tend to be expensive, delay-afflicted boondoggles.
FWIW, makes greater use of rail freight than any other country in the world.
high cost low reward
Asia and Europe are far more densely populated than the USA
only good place would be the east coast and i'm pretty sure they already have trains
*USA uses rail freight more than any other country.
Because carrying 2 miles of supplies is actually reasonable here compared to the tiny euro countries
Why is the rest of the world so hellbent on getting us to use 1800s technology? We've already got public transportation and it's full of niggers, why pump a billion bucks into shit they're just going to ruin anyway?
Because we invented flight, retard. We can literally fuckin' fly.
Why would we use trains for anything other than shipping goods and materials to heavy/expensive to fly?
>Why is the USA so bent on non issues as transgender defecation rights instead of actually building stuff to advance the nation?
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basically it has to do with population density and the type of people who use public transportation.
We are so spread out that not enough people from point A want to get to point B.
In an urban setting where there are enough people its all sub humans using public transportation.
Because planes take a fuck ton longer and can carry less?
We'd need to build new lines. America is huuuge land mass wise. It'd take serious financial resources to lay the lines across the country. Then there's the cities which unlike other countries haven't been blown up by America or Germany so we'd have to remove standing buildings and homes and Americans absolutely hate imminent domain. A major project like that hasn't been done since the Great Depression with the public works plan to build the interstate highways when America wasn't as populated or both economically devestated to have the workforce to build it but also gold backed economically strong enough to fund it by the government.
Basically we're too big and poor to do it.
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Low population density renders rail lines inefficient.
You literally stupid retarded nigger.
Leave the rails for shipping heavy goods/resources. Use planes to carry people and light packages.
How can you people be this fucking retarded?
Because of all the fucking wars we fight overseas. Trillion plus in the ME alone. Brought to you by George W. & The murderer in chief BHO. And they think Trump is bad. Better than those two termers put together. Besides our country has had THE WORST Leadership since 19-fucking-88. That's why.
trains are socialist.
The country is basically a depopulated waste land west of the Mississippi until you hit the west coast
the only reason that we have a so develloped railway is beause it was owned by the state
america hate that "commie shit"
Because you're fucking retarded if you think sitting for an hour+ fueling, filling up, and checking on the plane is faster then just hopping on and off a train
The best spot for high speed rail is California, as has been going on for the past decade or so. Large straight open land throughout the valley to connect two major population centers together
We don't need these when we have Hyperloop coming.
We're really fucking spread out. We have subways and other mass transit in our cities but long distance high speed rail is unnecessary
we got cars. It has some novelty in the city, but everyone would rather fly/drive.
I work for one of the seven class 1 railroads in America. Does anyone know the heritage of the American rail system? Probably not. Amtrak was only made because the private railroads wanted to cut passenger transportation because it was a waste of their money. All Amtrak is subsidized and there is no money to be made. If you want high speed rail in this country, it needs to be from a company such as Hyperloop instead of a freight railroad or Amtrak.
How did you get into working for them? I'm curious because i'm looking into it myself
It's simple. They just can't. They have to import (((us))) the great germans and their engineering skills.
people can afford nice cars here in america
everyone sees public transportation as a joke considering how shitty most of them are.
>local bus system
>can only use cash
>even at the headquarters where people are buying month long passes
>they get literally millions from the school each year
>their fleet is so fucking bad they've started to run actual school busses for the public transist system
can someone explain to me how this company gets around 500K a month, from paid users, and subsidies from the local college, can't fucking afford to maintain their fleet?
They have a fleet of about 200, only actively use about 50, and only about 20 are in use every day.
this shit doesn't make fucking sense, its a bunch of scam artists.
lets not forget the NYC Metro that keeps jacking up prices without ever spending money to maintain or update anything.
In japan, if the train is late (which it rarely is) you literally get a pass for work.
If the bus or subway system in america makes you late, you're possibly losing a job.
and no one wants to fucking risk that if they can help it.
No fucking joke, it takes about 40minutes to get 5 miles in a public transit, system at least locally.
It literally took me as long to walk to work as riding the bus would.
We can't have nice things because we are supporting Israel. Didn't you know that kikes are really greedy. Israel comes first then America, silly goy.
Well most of them hire tradesmen such as electricians or welders and will host hiring sessions. I work in management because I went to a university and received my bachelor's in electrical engineering. Go to their website and look at their careers section. That's literally how I applied for my job. Nothing beats going to work every day watching a massive freight train pass by knowing that you are directly contributing to America's economy.
I'm looking to be more of a technician. Working on the trains and stuff, But i'll totally look into it
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>In the early 1900s, General Motors' long-time president, Alfred P. Sloan, Jr., began implementing a plan to expand auto sales and maximize profits by eliminating streetcars.
>In 1922, Sloan established a special unit within GM that was charged with, among other things, the task of replacing the United States' electric railways with cars, trucks, and buses. Consumers who no longer had the option of taking the streetcar turned first to the bus lines and, eventually, to owning and driving their own automobiles.
no public transport because car companies bribed government officials in the 40s and 50s to plan cities without public transport oriented towards cars ie us suburbia
public transport was sabotaged to steer the flock towards car/oil
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>In 1930 the electric streetcar ruled Chicago
with social engineering and propoganda campaigns, GM successfully wasted billions of public tax dollars.
wasted billions of public $$ to fund their monopoly.
Are you truly stupid or somethin'?
Just how far away exactly are you talking about taking a train?
There is basically zero cities in America it is not faster to fly to than take a train. And if you are close enough to where it somehow miraculously is, you can drive there.
It's not hard.
Word of advice, don't work for CP. They are terrible due to their way of cutting all costs to maximize profits due to Hunter Harrison. My company does hiring sessions in hotels. Make sure you are 100% drug free because if you fail your test they will black list you for all class 1's. Do your research. It's a great industry to get into and nothing beats railroad retirement instead of social security.
The entire Eastern Corridor? Anywhere in the south east of texas, California
Car+oil companies destroy based cheap electric trams and electric cars. these monopolies used public funds to builds highways, clusterfuck burbs, fast food drive thru culture and commuting round trips of 3 hr are standard.
Car culture has stolen the lives of millions in hours and actual lives. Wasted countless trillions.
The only benefit was that it made easier for whites to keep away from blacks
American companies sabotaged and dismantled efficient public transport to make way to gas powered Fords and traffic
>deliberate shit to force you into carfagging
Public transportation in North America is literally 3rd-world-tier, just like telecommunications.
I once had a bus which was literally 30 minutes late. On a bus line where the wait between each bus is supposed to be no more than 10 minutes. So basically I arrived at the stop at 6:05 (I don't remember the exact times, I'm just giving example times), I could see in the distance that I had missed the 6:00 bus by a few minutes, so I waited for the 6:10 bus to arrive, and it didn't show up until 6:40. Or perhaps the bus that showed up was actually the 6:40 bus, and the 6:10, 6:20 and 6:30 buses simply never showed up. Either way, THIRTY FUCKING MINUTES LATE ON A LINE WHERE YOU'RE NEVER SUPPOSED TO WAIT MORE THAN 10 MINUTES.
>yfw car companies bought up LA's rail system so they can sell more cars
Because the lowest population density areas of Europe and Japan have about as many people as the highest population density areas of the USA.
Have fun building and maintaining infrastructure that travels across 4000km of literally nothing.
It's really rather obvious why Muricans rely on private cars and commercial planes to get around.
I'm looking more towards BNSF and UP since i'm on the west coast
BNSF would be my best bet but it depends on what is available. Just search BNSF Hiring sessions and they have forums about all of this stuff. Indeed gave me a lot of insight when I was first applying.
>We're really spread out
>long distance high speed rail is unnecessary
My theory, OP, is that making environmental impact studies for proposed rail lines that will never be built is a better way for legislators to provide for their useless relatives than actually building trains
Railways were a huge part of the 19th century USA and at that time our railway corporations were not only profitable, but were among the best in the world.
Then the early 20th came along, some ruthless guy named Rockefeller started a company called Standard Oil...and everything went to shit.
Its actually amazing how much one man cucked the USA, and in some ways the entire world. He's not Rothschild tier, but he's pretty close.
Anyway, the USA doesn't want to use less oil, because guys like Rockefeller wanted to use the most oil possible. He not only helped kill/restrain our railways, but he also battled Henry Ford over making sure automobiles ran on oil instead of corn grain alcohol (which would have made more sense in every way)
All this shit we have now. The Global oil market, Saudi Arabia controlling the petrol dollar, etc etc. It can all be traced back to Standard Oil (Rockefeller)
E85 burns cleaner, is renewable, and the USA grows the most corn in the world.
It might also help prop farmers up so we dont have to use unhealthy corn syrup in food.
But no, we couldn't have that completely logical timeline. Because greedy men didn't want it.
So we prop up the Middle East while our own infrastructure remains stuck in the past, and we have to prop the corn farmers up somehow so we use corn syrup in all of our food which is making us hilariously fat monstrosities.
If I could I'd love to work for the California High speed rail company if that ever gets into the swing of things, but that's not gonna be for at least a couple decades
>long distance high speed rail is unnecessary
Because flying is normally cheaper
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>corn grain alcohol
>not using sorghum for ethanol
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Because trains are communistic
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Another reason is the same reason LA doesn't have a subway system...
Since 1965 the US has decided to fund diversity instead of technological advancement.
American car manufacturers pushed for their government to favour cars over the private rail companies. Hence fuel and roads were subsidised by the state - ever wonder why the phrase "who will build the roads?" was chosen over a thousand other alternatives?
American rail companies compete against state industries whereas it's more or less reversed in other countries.
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The automobile unironically. It's been such an economic drain and horrible pollutant. The spacing is so horrifically energy inefficient. The mass wealth the US obtained after ww2 all went into supporting the endless sprawl.
Pretty telling that instead of building timeless masterpieces like the Romans we built this shitty mass produced tasteless sprawl as our legacy. It's economically unsustainable. Cities will not be able to afford the costs of the maintenance of sprawl.
The automobile with it's noise and fumes also makes the city unlivable. Just look at LA and see the smoggy haze every day, that kills thousands every year not to mention all the automobile accidents.
Converting to car free full pedestrianization of cities will make them a thousand times more livable. It's easier for future development and they will likely be nicer if you return to human scale infrastructure and architecture, but existing cities are still a must for conversion and they too will be a lot nicer even with the huge skyscrapers.
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In truth though city planning has gotten worse the past 500 years slowly, the automobile was just a huge leap deterioration You can read about it in this book.
Can confirm, we do in fact have trains.
>high speed delivery of criminals straight into your neighborhood
why do you think, Ahmed?
because warren buffet hates america.
we do have amtrak service that goes up to 60-90mph but there are just tons of derailments every year both with amtrak and commercial service. it's safer than driving and you don't have to watch the road but it takes almost as long to get anywhere and the prices aren't great so most people prefer flying just to have it done and over with. does the euro zone have similar problems with reliability and safety?
>Railways in the 19th century USA
One of my favorite historical journeys (this and, highly related, telegraphy). Amazing time. Amazing people. Amazing inventions. All the shenannigens. Just.
And yes, the american people got fucked over (and over and over again...) so hard in the name of business. Also amazing.
Pro-tip: all the books from that era are freely available as pdf on google books. And there are a lot of them. Fascinating stuff.
Because they don't pay for themselves
>Because, America is all red tape.
??? I think the issue is that njtransit, septa, and even amtrak provide such poor service at such an expensive rate despite being subsidized that there is no incentive to even think about upping it to a high speed rail. I mention them because they control a good bit of the main rail stretch. It is true that there is a lot of conflicting interests in the northeast (I don't think most of the country realizes how dirty our politics are), but red tape isn't really an issue where there isn't those conflicting interests
>Why is the USA so bent on non issues as transgender defication rights instead of actually building stuff to advance the nation?
jews.. more specifically, European jews
Once we actually build a few high speed rail lines and get the hang of it down, the cost should steeply drop.
Most of the warplanes that cost $400,000,000 apiece actually don't cost too much in parts, the expense comes from research and development.
America has planes you faggot. Even in Europe nobody is using trains anymore because there are so many discount airlines now. This is also starting to happen in Japan.
>city planning has gotten worse the past 500 years slowly
Did we even have city planning 500 years ago?
I do agree that it is shit now, but I don't know if the medieval Florentines were thinking that here's where all the shops would go.
Because we have like 1.3 cars pp, and public transportation is full of violent, jobless, niggers looking to assault or rob white people.
Too many peeps would be forced to give up their property under imminent domain. These rails kill communities and people's livelihoods, and only profit the foreigners that own them. It's agenda 2020 and we don't want it.
Private citizens, not nobles, own much of the land here.
We also use a lot of it for farming. The shit needed to go through to get even a wind farm up here in Minnesota is enough to prevent a high speed rail line.
Kike politicians want all the money for themselves and to keep the military powerful enough to bully the rest of the world.
>Using tax money to do something that would improve the life of citizens
Not here, man.
>automobile was just a huge leap deterioration
Are you actually fucking serious? Do you realize how shitty cities were when we needed horses to get around? Do you realize how much faster car travel is?
I agree with most of what you have to say, trains are excellent forms of public transport, but this statement is just false.
Because Americans are cheap shits who don't want to pay their taxes and as such have some of the shittiest and out-dated infrastructure in the world.
Israel ally gets it right here. Honestly I'd love to live in a small city with a working trolley line and a train connection. I absolutely hate driving everywhere
Why don't we all colonize Reading PA or something?
>Believing in the hyperloop meme
Bus and train are so useless because so many people own cars. And because so many people own cars they are unreliable and since they are unreliable nobody wants to invest in them.
I don't own a car so I would theoretically be someone who relies on trains or busses but I usually borrow a car or rent one. Renting a car is basically the same price as a train and I can stop, go or do whatever the fuck I want.
Fuck yeah
Grand Wizard Abe of Japan just said last month in his meeting with President Trump that they intend to partner on an effort to bring bullet trains to the U.S., to connect major cities on the East Coast
european bus and train systems are pretty much as reliable as you can get
Implying the trains wouldn't fly.
I'd assume several reasons, U.S. is geographically much larger and our highways actually don't have alot of traffic so self travel via automobile isn't so bad.
Our flights are price competitive so when it comes between spending 2+ days on a train to a few hours only to save around 40$, it really becomes a shitty option.
Trains are good for commuting to work and most major cities have some form of that already, it's just not as feasible for travelling distances in the U.S. when you take into consideration states like Texas or California being larger than entire European countries etc.
We've been working on it for a couple of years now
Trains are too slow to cross the plains
I wish.... it is literally a job requirement at a lot of places to own a car. In the age of Uber, it's the stupidest shit ever.
I live in a small city and can bike everywhere(school, work, grocery store) I also have a car but pay very little on it because I can save up and make sure it stays in good conditions for when I go camping, mountain biking, hiking, on dates, etc. Sucks to be you plebs, should have gone local with your job.
I don't get this, wouldn't it be really easy to sabotage a high speed train? Like you go to its railing in the middle of nowhere and you stack piles of wood or steel beams and when the train comes around it gets derailed? Why don't sand niggers do this in Europe?
what a cucky feminine voice
they need the trains to move their hordes of rapefugees in
Rail network optimized for freight, not passenger traffic. Passengers are supposed to either drive and/or fly.
Not ours.
Unless you mean reliably delayed by at least 15 minutes.
Busses, atleast where I live, are spot on. Haven't travelled by train that much but the times I did, I didn't find any troubles with it
Not enough interest. No interest = no need. Without demand, there can be no supply.
>why doesn't the USA have a high speed train?
urban sprawl
Too much unused land to cover
Kick his ass dude!