White Nationalism General

White Nationalism General

In this thread, we advocate white nationalism (European nationalism) in European-derived countries.

Welcome: white nationalists, Generation Identitaire, Trumpists, paleoconservatives, National Socialism, skinheads, clans, and families, the "Alt Right", and race realists.

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A lot of whining tonight about "Sup Forums is dead", so I got out the old white nationalism thread.

White Nationalism Platform - Fundamentals

Planks:

Whites-only
- White states are meant to be inhabited exclusively by the historical tribes that have been present there for many centuries.
- Immigration is neither necessary nor desired. The people can achieve their aspirations with the population sizes they currently have.
- White citizens should be free to discriminate against other races, on the basis of religion, and by sex, in any matter whatsoever, without fear of prosecution or lawsuits.

Quality of life
- The state should provide measurable economic opportunity for the white population.
- The state should create measurable conditions for a high standard of living, including good health.

Political rights
Certain rights are necessary to protect the other planks, such as:
- Political freedom.
- Freedom of speech and publication.
- The state shall make it illegal for employers to take adverse action against a white employee for any political statement the employee makes outside of the workplace. If a lawsuit finds against the employer, the employer must pay triple damages.
- Right to assemble.
- Right to own weapons.

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Jesus did everyone go to the awful 8ch net pol after the election?

bump

That honestly sounds very problematic for our movement. What about all the based minorities and such?

First matter of business... Get the kikes out of the fucking banks. The chair of the Federal Reserve is even a kike.

>our movement.

Our movement is white nationalism. Trumpism is just a step in its evolution.

>What about all the based minorities and such?

They can have their own nationalist parties and homelands.

If we don't stop it, there won't be a white homeland to go back to.

alright but how are you TrumpChumps going to get the minorities to move out?

fuck donald sklumpf
FRUMPF
DRUMPF
KRUMPF
BLUMPF
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SRUMF
PRUMF
QRUMF
CRUMF
BLIMPF
ZRUMPF
WRUMPF
URUMPF
HRUMPF
GRUMPF
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AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE FUCKING TOXIC PEOPLE ALWAYS OPPRESSING AND TRYING TO HOLD A FACADE

F U C K W H I T E P E O P L E

>The chair of the Federal Reserve is even a kike.

The Federal Reserve is a mess, and should be eliminated. The Treasury can take over many of the things that it does. The Jewish Fed chairmen have mostly been terrible and it was started on that island in Georgia by some Jew bankers. Just de-legislate the Fed.

>Get the kikes out of the fucking banks.

Impossible, they love lending. Just regulate it.

White nationalism is not a legitimate movement. It is a movement based on nothing but except whiteness, it doesnt look into anything deeper than that. Seems to me that the only legitimate movement is fascism. Not national socialism either, but fascism. It also seems quite clear to me that america is dead. Europe may or may not die as well. The future seems grim indeed.

>Sup Forumsice

Why

It's been proposed to give the african americans some of the southern states like Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia. Much more urgent is the hispanic american problem. We could just give them the southwest back. Could we really deport 50 million US citizens to Mexico? There's no white future, and no Republican Party at the Federal level, if we don't. But how could we actually do that? It's a big challenge.

>move out
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>sweden

you nazis talk a big game but you're not going to do anything, you don't even have a plan

because ICE has been rounding up huge numbers of illegal Mexicans and "sending them back". They have to go back.

>End Federal Reserve
I agree.

>Regulate banks
I agree with this also. I think the only things we should really be regulating in the economy is the financial sectors and healthcare/insurancekikes.

Oh i thought it was supposed to be police, which looked cringy af

I don't mind the idea about why are you white nationalists so fucking cringey, thin skinned, and anti-intellectual? I'm not picking a fight, I browsed and posted on SF when I was a kid and even then thought everyone was an idiot full of shit

>you nazis talk a big game but you're not going to do anything

We elected Trump and he's deporting (ethnically cleansing) millions of undesirable people. You don't think a plan led to the present, and that there are plans for the future? You are delusional.

Lol

Why are other ethnicities entitled to have their own nations but whites are not and do you support open borders for Israel?

What's so bad, exactly? The US is basically structured to allow groups, if they so desire, to remain relatively separate from society at large if they're able to pay taxes and not break the law. Have some form of economic independence and anyone could form communities of like-minded people doing whatever. This isn't possible in Europe

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Because Shlomo wants us to be "diversified" so that we are easier to divide and conquer. It is already happening. Look at the number of "genders" they made up. It goes beyond just race and biological gender now... We need our own nation that serves our interests.

Psst, hey kid. On how many layers of niggers are you on right now?

Pff, watch this.

>SF

Stormfront is thin skinned.

But most WN's are not anti-intellectual. Intellectual leads such as William Pierce, Kevin MacDonald, David Duke (I know not quite), George Rockwell (not as much), quite a few others, even Nigel Farage, led people from being normies to WN.

>cringey

Not sure how this is supposed to make sense as a shill attack. Is racial genocide supposed to be "cool"? Are whites supposed to just be "cool" about be disempowered and abused by big business, government, and institutions? "Don't be cringey, man. Just be cool."

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Important thread, thanks. Anybody know if brainstorming has been done regarding bridging the gap between "we got based Trump in" and the 14 words? It does seem to be a huge challenge, but at the same time I think America is more ripe than anywhere else for such policies. Are there any particularly easy state legislative areas that might be more receptive to white nationalist ideas, for example? I know that Steve King guy was openly espousing it, are there perhaps others running in 2018 that could be supported?

What we must protect.

We must preserve our heritage.

Here supporting my people

When do we start marching in the streets ?

Ooops didn't take a closer look at the caption. His hail and optimism is returning lads! Don't let uncle Adolf down!

But one can avoid all of that shit by not coming online and living somewhere remote. How many folks in Stumpjumpersville PA would even know what the fuck you're talking about when you say they "the number of genders they made up"? I would agree Europe is fucked because it's heavily socialist and has very centralized and controlled government, education, etc. In addition to identity being closely linked with the nationality and state

These issues literally don't exist in the US. Were you and a group of people able to have some form of income, pay taxes and don't break the law, you could go build a small community in the woods

We have the best technology.

Why is Sup Forums full of non-whites who promote white supremacy?

And we have the best women. Let's protect them, let's preserve them.

>White Nationalism

literally a meme ideology.

you even use a symbol of german nationalism in your anime flag.

>Are there any particularly easy state legislative areas that might be more receptive to white nationalist ideas, for example? I know that Steve King guy was openly espousing it,

That's a smart idea King is in Iowa maybe effort could be focused there as a test to get some state laws that go back towards explicit white freedom and voluntary segregation.

The first past the post system makes this difficult though in all states and federally. You have to get 51% to be comfortable with repealing civil rights/affirmative action laws, which is difficult politically. FPTP may end up making whites/white Americans extinct.

>are there perhaps others running in 2018 that could be supported?

And excellent point and as 2018 approaches, we need to identify legislative quality that is close to Trump such as Nunes, Steve King, Gowdy, etc., and try to help them.

Instagram models?

> Mexican Intellectual

We must preserve her.

I should not have to be a refugee in my own nation. You're essentially proposing colonization which would not be viable in the long term. We aren't AnCaps or gypsies.

>gas station captcha OY VEY ITS ANUDDA SHOAH

race is a social construct

>When do we start marching in the streets ?

It would be nice if we could have a Storm Battalion brigade in every city in America in 2018, 2020, and 2022 to defend against the obvious chimpout-level violence, especially for Trump's re-election in 2020 that will be directed against people attending his rallies.

Ok, when will the majority of whites suddenly start supporting white nationalism? Oh, never? White nationalism adhering to an ideology specifically mandating racial separation in nations? It doesn't seem like these two ideas are compatible as a majority would be necessary to enact this nationalism on the desired scale

You don't have to be ashamed of being white.

Bumb. Sick of shitskins and commies saying I can't be proud of my culture and history.

Bump*

As political correctness continues to die more people will open up about how they truly feel. There's also a massive amount of red-pilling going on and tons of people are becoming aware of the JQ.

When the white population becomes closer to being a minority and subsequently lose the power to vote for their own interests they will wake up. Sure, there will be some cucks who will ride their SJW virtue signalling dildo to their own grave, but as you said, we only need a majority.

Their genome is encoded in the nucleus of their cells ... the races' genomes are quite different, and are optimized to the habitat conditions each race was confined to over evolutionary time.

>lose the power to vote for their own interest
>we only need a majority

Action needs to be taken by a strong leader for the betterment of the people long before we're a minority. Entrusting your race's survival into the hands of the people and hoping for a democratic outcome is ridiculous.

The redpilling and the death of political correctness will mean our leaders can come to power a lot EASIER, but they'll never be voted for by a "majority" for their white nationalist/supremacist/whatever views. It'll be part of a package, whether it's economic or social and those once toxic white pride views will now be a non issue as the Jews enter their political death throes with millions of whites waking up daily

All ideologies are meme's, you retard.

It comes from the word memetics as a cultural unit.

>There's also a massive amount of red-pilling going on

A significant event happened in 2016, probably in the second half of the year, in which the "implicitly white" website comment section/Facebook/Twitter brigades, etc., "lifted off" from Sup Forums/the other chans, and became self sustaining without the chans, StormFront, NPI, etc.. This is a huge thing, and hopefully there are ways to keep it going.

Daily Reminder

>Of all groups claiming to oppose Jewish power, those who call themselves White Nationalists* (as well as other names such as Pro-Whites, White Advocates, White Separatists, White Identitarians, Anti-Anti-Whites (yes, really) etc.) are by far the most counterproductive. Their very presence taints the heroic image of anti-Zionist activism in the eyes of non-racist newcomers, perverts its purpose in the eyes of racist newcomers, and impedes every effort for unifying all non-Jews against Jewish domination. Clear-thinking anti-Zionists correctly identified WNs long ago as useful idiots led by Zionist agents to forment interethnic tension. As Aryanists, we moreover emphasize how WNs themselves have proven no different from present-day Israelis in their way of thinking (which many WNs themselves even admit). Either way, they have no place within any serious anti-Zionist movement, but should be considered part of the enemy in the broader anti-tribalist movement that we have proposed, for by their ethnocentrism they have already rejected our motto of UNITY THROUGH NOBILITY. Obviously WNs are not – despite the name they give themselves – nationalistic in any serious sense, as their allegiance is not to any country but rather to the international “white” diaspora, much like how Jews’ allegiance is to the international Jewish diaspora. The quickest way to disprove WN claims to nationalism is to ask them whether or not they would prioritize a “non-white” person from their own country over a “white” person from another country. What WNs mean by their crude abuse of the term is that they want countries where only “white” people are allowed to live, just as Jews have Israel.

Shill blackpill is obvious

Don't throw Dr.Duke under the bus so quickly. I know his KKK years may look bad, but you can't just call a guy with a Ph.D in history an anti-intellectual.
But I agree. Rockwell was a commander, not a teacher.

You're correct, that's why I said "closer." There will come a certain point where whites recognize that they have less influence than they'd like to which will change their views and how they vote. Let us not forget the many who don't usually vote... Enough of them came out for Trump to offset the Commiefornia voters.

It's a meme ideology because its prevalence is purely because of how prevalent it is.
Most other ideologies actually have sound reasoning behind them which is what causes them to be popular.
There is nothing sound about white nationalism. It's retarded and a burden.

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>Trumpism

Jesus Christ..

>Both Clinton and Trump were and are Zionist puppets. As long as the public are given an illusion of choice they will not revolt. So if they keep producing false alternatives it will keep the population from a revolution. The puppets are rampant in the western world, in the Netherlands they had Geert, and in France they have Le Pen. They are only in power to let out the steam so that the kettle doesn’t explode into complete revolution. “We can just vote for [Conservative Politician] and everything will work out!”. Nothing will change, it would’ve been the same under Clinton as it is under Trump. Things will only change for the worse: More police, more surveillance, more of the “war on terror” which they invented and are funding. The war on terror is no more than a facade to take our right away quicker for “National Security”.
It does not matter who is in office, they’re all having their strings pulled by the few “Democracy makers”, the few hundred giant capitalist who own and share all the factories and who, ultimately, lead the people, they are not interested in the interest of the greater mass of the people. They are only ones who can be addresses as international elements, because they conduct their business everywhere. They are a small, rootless, international group who are turning people against one another, who does not want them to have peace. They are at home everywhere and nowhere, they do not have a soil in which they have grown up upon. They are in and influence every single government in the world, except the ones without their banking scheme. Iran, North Korea, and Cuba, they are the only ones without a bank owned by the Jew.

You WNs are obviously just backwoods Low IQ mongrels.

Why does the similarity of both of our groups being ethnocentric over nationalist matter? If anything, it should establish how our zionists and white nationalists are more inherently opposed than any other "anti-zionist" group.
Yes, unfortunately I believe some sort of catastrophe will be necessary to give Americans the needed push towards open white nationalism. In a morbid sense, it is lucky that our enemies are so violent, otherwise the white liberals would perhaps be beyond rescue.

>the broader anti-tribalist movement that we have proposed

Whoa when did we agree to universalism? Universalism is what got us into this hell.

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Pointing out their subversive behavior and disregard for races other than themselves who they refer to as cattle is not counterproductive. The goyim know.

Because you're no better than the Jew in that case. You just crave their power, you're not true National Socialists. You're no better than the Jew, no better than the filthy Marxists and Communists you claim to hate so dearly. You're just another pawn in the system of human enslavement to the beady-eyed, greedy, greasy-haired, unclean, Jewish pigs that want to rule over us. You're doing nothing but pushing them closer to their goals. You honestly think they're stupid enough to think there wouldn't be any reaction to what they're doing? You're a fool. You spew "muh D&C shill" yet you're doing that exact same thing to the National Socialists movement.

>"Nationalism"
Wow. I haven't seen this many faggots in one place since LB Pride.

How's it going lads? Hope everyone is doing well.

You're a degenerate. Gas plebbit.

>sound reasoning

The reasoning of racial nationalism is that a race's evolved psychology emerges from that race's shared genome (genomes within a close genetic distance of some defined racial genome "center"), and the historical human settlements (such as major civilizations) associated with that race emerged from its evolved psychology. If you extinct their genome, you extinct their civilization. "Proposition states" don't work. Their genome -> their evolved psychology -> their culture, civilization, and history.

To refute the accusation of genetic determinism in advance, because humans are at a higher cognitive level than the other animals, humans can cognitively combine learned elements as well, and even use learned elements in racial/group strategy (these are called group evolutionary strategies). But the compatibility of learned elements and group evolutionary strategies with their race is constrained by the evolved psychology encoded in their genome.

Wow, you're clearly too emotional to have a reasonable discussion about this. I just what's best for whites and white ideals, if that makes me a jew in your eyes, than so be it. I will continue to prioritize the people I believe to be worth protecting. I truly can't understand how you can see racial prioritization so completely opposed to national socialism. I don't crave an explicitly unified pan-white government, I just expect that something approaching it will be necessary to truly cleanse us. If I could avoid it, I would. I think you restrict your own methods too much to ever be successful.

>The strategic significance of WNs in the psychopolitical war is evident from the long history of Jewish involvement in White Nationalism and neo-Nazism. From direct Jewish leadership (such as Frank Cohen ‘Collins’ of the National Socialist Party of America), to close collaboration between WNs and Jews (such as Jared Taylor and the many Jewish speakers and writers for American Renaissance), we should consider how racial identity is promoted by Jews to turn its adherents into convenient weapons for their ends. Almsost all genuine anti-Zionists have had this experience: every time we try to start a serious discussion about Zionism, WNs hijack it and turn it into a rant about the need to stop “black” men from having sex with “white” women and other stupid bullshit, so that almost all the discussion time that could have been spent on positive planning ends up being spent on kicking the WNs back out. Hence many anti-Zionists today agree that in an alternate universe where WNs never existed, we would have in all likelihood already defeated Jewish power by now.

It's not that you're doing it, it's how you're doing it.

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Heil o7

Ah. The tolerance paradox.

>their evolved psychology
Ignore the part where their psychology is to kill each other, because they have zero natural affiliation with a "greater race" and their natural focus does not extend beyond their tribe, which benefits immensely by spilling the blood of neighboring tribes, which is what Europe did, which is the main reason for their "collective race" producing superior culture and civilization in the first place; natural selection.

No let's pretend whites are a monolith, all of equal value!

Fucking lame cuck.
Get that swastika out of your trash 14 word memes, Hitler's people were German and German alone, and his aim was to secure a future for Aryan children.

There's nothing wrong for wanting the best for your people. But the moment you act like the ones you hate is the moment I have an issue.

Just like how the Jews have influence and the power - Act like them and then you'll become them. And just like them you will be treated like them.

See

Nice copypasta, JIDF.
We have priorities, your tribe are at the top of the list. The other things in that copypasta are lower priority. Heil our folk and heil victory. 14/88

>WN
>Worshipping a jew

you seem to believe white nationalism will inevitably lead to the subversive, destructive behavior the jews have demonstrated. Why? White are no towering demigods, but I think sufficient evidence exists to demonstrate that they are better, genetically and culturally, than others. Even if there is no objective "better," I still prefer them and want them to prosper in some corner of the world, hopefully Europe in roughly the national borders that exist today. I do not want to win our freedom through intrigue and oppression of our own, that would mean losing sight of the values that I claim to be wanting to save. But you should understand that in the end, what will be necessary to save the West and whites may not be palatable to you. For a time, a "European" identity may be required to ensure that regional identities can exist in the long run.

What if I'm a traditional fascist and I'm white, and my gf is Mexican?
C-can I join the club? What's your official guideline?

Choke on cyanide, stormfag.
it's a good thing you people are retarded and can't garner enough influence in our movement to corrupt it entirely.

>Implying that's bad

Seig heil user

If you don't put the solution to the Jewish question at the top of your priorities; Then you won't have a tribe to go back to.

Even if you don't like "subhumans", you must learn to work with them, there isn't enough people aware of the Jew and what they do to cherry pick who your allies are. We are all in this together, and it must stay like that if we want to be free from their power and influence. Only after we hang the last Jew with the guts of the last Marxists, can we can finally live with our own kind and never again will we have to fight for our birth-right of feeling loved and welcomed by our own Volk.

No you can't join the club, but you are invited to discuss in our thread. And the Mexican girlfriend wasn't necessarily the problem, it's that vanilla fascism only wants to marry the state and economic production. There isn't enough explicit race realism in vanilla fascism as you specified.

I hate niggers pol needs a flyer campaign

>Even if you don't like "subhumans", you must learn to work with them
The WN's refusal to even consider this is what convinces me they're a Jewish operation.
There are 40 million blacks in the US, all desperate to blame their plight—imagined or not—on someone. They're also incredibly reactionary, and easily lead by emotion.

In comes WNs with "hang shitskin niggers! day of the rope when?"
on cue

>The state should provide measurable economic opportunity for the white population.
>The state should create measurable conditions for a high standard of living, including good health.
Elaborate on these; what do these mean?

Should we claim different beliefs because making our current ones happen will be difficult? Niggers could be used for a time, but my people are being replaced by Hispanics as we speak. The rapidity of their growth is horrifying, and seems to be as urgent as the removal of the Jews. It is easy to say that we must "work with" them but how can we do that when their interests are nearly as opposed to mine as the Jews' are?

please happen

>I have never even browsed SF.

It's a good thing you are a defeatist cuck who is willing to lower the bar just to feel relevant. Or did you not get the fact that I was baiting a kike to troll, and sure as shit, one showed up? It's either that or you're a mongrel. I don't have that much of an issue with mongrels as long as they aren't degenerate.

I too, am a racial idealists, but being a >1.5 degree mischling (Probably butchering the true meaning but I'm like 40% Native American and 60% of European descent)

It's hard for me to agree with everything that WNs emphasize because that would mean I'm sacrificing one side of my family to the other side.

It's difficult, but I think all races should strive for their best.

Why is this only available from Amazon Canada and not Amazon US?